Can You Beat Ratchet & Clank With Only The Suck Cannon?
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- čas přidán 24. 12. 2021
- The original Ratchet & Clank marked the beginnings of a long running series which some of us have been more than willing to make even harder with absurd sets of rules. But how about beating this original entry with the series' original gimmick weapon? Today, we see if we can beat Ratchet & Clank with only the Suck Cannon!
DETAILED RULES:
- No weapon listed under the "Weapons" menu may be used at any point, other than the Suck Cannon.
- The Omniwrench may not be used at any point, except to turn bolt cranks.
- Anything other than the Suck Cannon capable of dealing damage is considered illegal unless deemed necessary to progress (turrets, vehicles, etc.).
Note: This run takes place in Challenge Mode a.k.a. New Game Plus.
- No Challenge Run exclusive menus, options or features may be exploited to complete the run.
- The upgraded form purchasable with Gold Bolts (the Gold Suck Cannon) is not allowed.
- The PDA may not be used or exploited until the moment in which it is normally obtained in a fresh playthrough (Planet Oltanis after clearing the Magne-Strip path and reaching Captain Qwark).
- If, at any point, an area does not provide a sufficient amount of ammunition (enemies capable of being sucked up by the Suck Cannon), the runner must play ahead and attempt to clear the area without the use of any weapon. Failure to do so means failure of the challenge. The Omniwrench, and no other weapon, may be used to continue if the runner wishes to proceed past the point of failure, until such a time in which progression with only the Suck Cannon is viable, however the run will no longer be valid.
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As many comments have attested to, Umbris is not the theoretical limit of this run, I just somehow forgot that Ghost Ratchet exists, like a dumbass. The limit, as far as I know, is Drek Phase 2, which we have a start to figuring out.
I'm open to revisiting this run again at a later date, possibly with some altered rules, if there's support for it. I am genuinely curious to see if Drek can be beaten under a different ruleset.
i just wanna see more runs with other weapons like you suggested you can do
I think you can do PDA sideflips to skip all the way to Drek's phase 4.
I think the lesson here is that ammo can make or break these runs, so it's time to try a weapon that doesn't need ammo. Oh yeah, I'm talking about... THE TAUNTER
Ratchet and Clank is one of my all time favorite franchises and when I found your channel it was an instant subscribe. Love the challenge runs!! Excellent job and keep it up man :)
By the way on Gemlik Base you can bounce the suck cannon shots by firing straight in the air.
It will destroy the power source
17:28 Actually if you aim the Suck Cannon up high, you can have the projectile bounce when it hits the ground, go over the wall, and into the tower.
I found that out when I was doing my own personal run once that involved not ever using the vendor. Felt like a genius when I figured that out.
Please tell me if it's possible to get to the end of the game without a vendor, I tried myself years back and got stuck on this exact spot
This deserves tonnes more views
Frrr
I got this video in my recommended randomly even though i havent watched any r&c content in years...
But this is a great video, well edited, great voice over, and an entertaining challenge, honestly really glad i saw this whilst mindlessly scrolling my front page, subbed
I do have a few ideas for a Going Commando challenge run
A. Sheepinator
B. Clank Zapper
C. Walloper
Of course these will have to be done in challenge mode but they'd still be fun I think.
The idea of a Clank zapper run makes me worried.
14:39 you know, if you use the swing shot targets right as you fall into the mud, you'll be able to obtain G H O S T R A T C H E T. And be able to jump through walls. Including the one that leads to the info bot for batalia. I'm not sure if this really matters considering the rest of the road blocks though lol
I’m here because of the Umbris bit. Seriously that planet needs an analysis of it’s creativity and it’s enemies, especially the mines.
Technically you can skip the Drek fight with "clever use of game Mechanic's"
I know of the method where you beat Drek on a separate save file and then use the PDA to skip to his arena where it's suddenly in it's post battle phase, but I think I convinced myself that it wouldn't be fair for the run. Also, I think I might have forgotten the PDA even existed after I got through Umbris. The latter part's my bad. XP
@@matticusomega that method only works on the PS3 version. You kill drek, and then load a different file instead of pushing the button, and on every file afterwards, the deplanitizer will be pointing upwards. If you come to the arena from behind, you can also skip the boss trigger. But if you go the normal path, you'll still have to fight drek but you won't be able to stop the countdown timers.
I figured that might have been PS3 only. Good ol' HD ports being somewhat less stable. XD
If i remember correctly there was an arena challenge called time to suck XD
@@Felix-dh9tl yep
these challange run videos are really fun to watch especially the whole problem solving aspect of them, I love these man
For future challenges, I would personally recommend playing in NG+. No cheats, no shortcuts, you get the weapon at the start, and the only real complication is in 2 and 3 where enemies scale up in strength and you start with more health and better armor.
10:25 I see what you did there. Someone should make a Ratchet & Clank Pitch Meeting video.
I got two ideas, one harder than the other.
Hard idea: Use PDA infinite jumps to leave the battlefield to restock. Unsure if Drek might deload during this. You'd also need to go through more of the level to grab more Toads, introducing more chances to die while restocking. There is a teleporter to the ship before the boss, maybe you could grab some toads from the beginning of the level?
Second idea is, can't you infinite PDA jump to the final arena? I don't mean the glitch where Drek is already defeated, iirc that should skip to the final phase no matter what, which as you pointed out does have suckable enemies.
@@Akay4444444444444444 Low key, I'm sorta planning to revisit this challenge in the future with some revised rules, so I'll keep these I mind
FYI: On Batalia you have infinite ammo via an enemy spawner on top of the building opposite the tresspasser puzzle at the beginning of the planet. It's easily missed if you aren't looking for it so I can understand thinking you only have limited ammo for the planet.
CZcams didn't recommend me about any of your recent videos so I thought you weren't posting!! I just finished this video and i loved it, I knew it would be impossible but I still love these challenges, it's fun watching people break games in millions of ways.
RAC 1 is my favourite game so I can't wait to watch your lets play of it, keep up the good work 🙏
You can skip phase 2 and 3 of Drek's fight as there is a cutscene trigger you can get to via speedrunner tactics. So, this run is possible to do in ng+ by using glitches to get to triggers.
I've enjoyed these challenge run videos from your channel. They're interesting and the commentary is fun and funny!
I’ve been here since the plasma whip challenge. You’re real underrated my dood
Great video I had on watch later for months and finally watched on a random wendsday , keep up the good job , you deserve more subs !
If you also wanted to allow use of the Morph-o-Ray, the chickens it creates can be sucked up with the Suck Cannon. I don't know how much help it would be during the boss fights, but it should at least help with the otherwise impassable planets.
What if you did a ratchet & clank 2, with only ratchet & clank 1 wepons but all other tings too. like when you get the uppgraded wrench you will not be able to use it anymore. And no strafing and no pauseing.
Pauseing when you use the wepon wheel i mean. And other stuff,
16:10 Cheeky reference.
Nice to see I'm not the only one with trauma from the swiming section in Rilgar.
They kill each other with friendly fire? Good reason to call them dummies.
Awesome video man, really enjoyed it :)
You know if you wanted to break boxes you could have just used the thruster pack. That would have saved you so much time and ammo in the Ratchet 3 plasma whip only playthrough!
Though for ratchet 1 you can't get it until Pokitaru.
id have to play around with ILJs to see if you can get to the infobot on umbris without the use of the extras menu or PDA. normally through the use of in level movies accessed in the extras menu that is unlocked in challenge mode, we speed runners activate ghost ratchet which not only gives us more max speed when doing ILJs, but also lets us clip through walls. we also use the PDA to preserve momentum after doing the ILJ. im not entirely sure how far the mud plain continues around the side of the building and how far you can glide out of an ILJ once that mud plain ends, and im not entirely sure how easy it is to get into the infobot room without clipping through walls. i must admit, i mainly only watch and perform NG+ runs so doing this stuff without things like the PDA and extras menu isnt my area of expertise.
as for drek, you used gadgets in this run, so im going to assume the PDA is fair game, which should be obtainable in theory with only the suck cannon, as long as hitting the mines on the magnet rail doesnt make you fall off (though even with that you can probably just time yourself walking past them). with that, theres all kinds of tricks you can use to just fly to the last phase of the boss. all these tricks are shown in ThaRixer's guide you mentioned in the vid
27:33 I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure a PDA trick can be done to completely skip Drek.
Only if you beat Drek on a prior save file, didn't blow up Drek's planet, and happen to be playing on the PS3 version.
@@Definitely_a_Fox Thanks for clarifying, I was sure there was something like that just wasn’t sure on the requirements!!
Its always bugged me you cant suck up most of the spiked mines in this game but you can suck up dreks very similar looking mines in the fibal boss.
Which is very important to know if you want to beat the boss and you dont have the tesla cannon, the pda and a crap ton of bolts to buy ammo, or don't know the dumb arbitrary mechanics to the final boss respawning ammo.
Seriously, i never would have beaten drek as a kid on my original save file if i hadn't thought to use the suck cannon on him
You know I personally really appreciate how you use the actual canonical names for things in the R&C series as I do when they're known, I find it's a rarity (not that it matters at all). Regardless, fantastic content mate!
It's been a while since I last played, but Umbris? You never forget Umbris...
Good work, though, I love these challenge videos!
If I did a Suck Cannon only run, I would allow the gold Suck Cannon.
Was enjoyable. Sucks that the challenge failed. Can't wait to see ur next challenge run
Nice, please more r&c challenges in the future
Funny enough there are boxes with ammo during the boss fight meaning you'd ve able to suck those up and use unless I am mistaken about the suck canon being able to suck boxes up and use as projectiles
It can only suck up enemies in this game, it doesn't gain the ability to suck up crates until 3
@@matticusomega ah okay thanks for reminding me about that. I haven't played any of the original r&c games since I was a kid 😅 so I couldn't really remember
Technically the run is possible though it's debatable if it's valid. Umbris is for sure completable by using ghost ratchet. Drek however can be completely skipped by killing him in a different safe file (by using all weapons) and not pressing the button to end the game. When you then get to the end of Veldin 2 on a suck cannon only run Drek will be skipped as the button is still there.
(I hope this makes sense as English is not my first language, also the video is pretty old so nobody might see this)
As I understand it (thanks to some other commentors), that exploit to kill Drek is PS3 only, and I ran this on PS2. So maybe this run is only possible on PS3?
@@matticusomega oh yeah that might be true sorry. I'm only experienced running the game on ps3. Even if it would be possible though you'd still kinda kill Drek with other weapons (just on a different safe file) so the ending would be bittersweet. Thanks for the reply!
I was kind of expecting the ending being impossible, but I agree it's a mixed bag being half pacifist, entirely forgot about what a nightmare the training course was.
Yet a similarly frustrating challenge came to mind, going commando with only the clank zapper . . . while I'd suspect it's possible I'd bet money that'd be more tedious as it's the only one of the original trilogy to not have the pda, so instead how about up your arsenal with the rift ripper?
I dearly hope I dont grow crazy enough to try Clank Zapper Only...
@@matticusomega One attempt is too much, don't risk your sanity man
@@matticusomega what's the debug code??
So glad I’m not the only one who drowned and was traumatized by that water flooding part. I refused to try it again for a year
I forgive you for skipping the Oltanis planet because if i was you...
I'll be dead
more ratchet and clank videos plz i love these challenge videos
Finally, someones asking the real questions.
Only The RYNO!BREAK THE GAME,MATTOMEGA!🤣
I will like any video about the actual original ratchet and clank game. Wish it had been an actual remaster of the original game
Hey uh, I'm not sure if anyone here has figured this out before or just didn't think to try it, but I think Drek is defeatable.
I'm not referring to the PDA skip only possible on the PS3 version either.
I mean, no use of the wrench or any other weapon, apart from the suck cannon.
However, if it works, (and that's a big IF) it would be a massive pain in the butt.
And to give you an idea of how bad it is, if you either mess up the preparation or die during the fight, you'll need to complete Veldin 2 all over again, no restarting from the checkpoint before the fight.
I think I understand how the glitch works, although I might be wrong. (Maybe it was just a 1 in a 1,000,000 fluke, but it doesn't feel like it)
Basically, play through Veldin 2 as normal until you reach the versa targets above the lava just before the tunnels that lead to the Giant Clank section.
Jump into the lava and pull yourself out with the Swingshot. As you probably know, this makes the game freak the hell out!
Either play through the rest of the level as normal or abuse the buggy effects to skip to the Giant Clank section.
Become Giant Clank and play up until you encounter Drek.
This is where the fun begins.
If I'm correct about how the bug works, walk Clank directly into Drek's massive mech. Your feet will deal rediculous damage, ending the first phase in less than a second.
When the dust settles, you'll notice that the little stunt we just pulled here also took a considerable chunk on Drek's second phase away too. If you pull it all off flawlessly, Drek may only have enough health to tank a few shots from the Suck Cannon, although I'd personally recommend the golden suck cannon.
I didn't actually manage to beat Drek when I accidentally pulled this off, but I did record myself doing it!
Look up "Sunday Ratchet & Clank Twitch Stream 0012 (April 24 2022)" on youtube and skip to 22:40 and watch until 25:31.
I could be wrong about how the glitch is pulled off, but if I'm right, Drek is absolutely possible with only the suck cannon!
I have to try this immediately!!!
I hope it's not too hard to replicate!
I managed to try it out for myself, this is a seriously cool find! Unfortunately I haven't been able to drain enough of Drek's health for the Suck Cannon to finish the job. I'll keep testing it and trying things out though. Thanks a ton for sharing this, I'm so close to being able to call this challenge 100% possible!
After a number of other tries, here's the conclusion I'm drawing:
So the near escape by using the Swingshot as you drop into the lava activates Ghost Ratchet, as is well known. Typically, this disables a lot (not all, or else he'd fall through the floor) of the collsion on Ratchet, which allows him to pass through walls.
When brought into the Drek fight, it would appear that this may carry over to Giant Clank as well, meaning that Clank would phase right through Drek upon touching him. As I understand it, but definitely take this with a grain of salt as I could be mistaken, while the collision that normally renders him unable to physically walk through enemies is disabled, any damage frames he outputs are not.
Jumping as Giant Clank I believe does damage, so his feet may have hitboxes of their own. When the typical collison is taken away, the feet hitboxes are able to deal damage for as long as they collide with an enemy, in this case, Drek.
With inactive hitboxes, this makes sense. Normally, Clank's feet would only do damage if he is currently falling. But Ratchet's hitboxes being inactive doesn't necessarily mean that the ground's are too, which may explain why we can still move around with inactive collision. (Once again, these are only theories, and I have yet to check with someone who knows this game's code more than I do)
In short, running into Drek with Ghost Ratchet activated does massive damage, but unfortunately it seems to only last as long as until Drek is unloaded in order to be placed in the next cutscene and moved on to the next phase.
Every attempt has come out to pretty much the exact same amount of damage. I believe it's because that damage is being done every frame, but the cutscene always kicks in a particular amount of frames after the requisite amount of health had been depleted. The extra damage after the usual threshold definitely carries over to the next phase, as you have seen yourself, but the time between 'hitting the damage threshold' and 'the beginning of the next cutscene' seems to be a fixed amount of frames.
And when only a certain amount of damage is done every frame, the extra damage done in that amount of time is the same every time (as far as I know). And even with the extra damage done, the Suck Cannon still can't get by. I still haven't tried with the Gold Suck Cannon yet, but as it wasn't allowed, it seems this run still may not be doable.
(At least during Drek. As many commentors have pointed out, Ghost Ratchet can be used to skip the Snagglebeast on Umbris. We're close. We're so close.)
Your Videos are funny af for real
We need MORE
Gosto muito de passar horas assistindo teus vídeos, acredito que um dia seu canal irá crescer muito devido ao seu esforço e sua dedicação. Meus parabéns! Um salve do Brasil!
I'm at the very first of the video and I doubt this is possible, mostly because of the bosses. Unless you find a glitch for infinite ammo, that is.
10:26 I see what you did there xD
"childhood trauma" bruh you have no idea i didn't even get past Rilgar for months because i thought i was missing something, then my brother beat it for me
The blargian snagle beast is so easy to skip past though whaaat
Cool run man! How about next time: "Can I Beat Ratchet and Clank With Drone Glove Only?" in challenge mode, so you can get it right at the beginning.
19:02 You can also use the thruster pack ground pound on that switch.
2:33 I recognize that top comment. Thanks Matt!
No problem :)
Man this makes me remember a video of ratchet and clank 3 where the only weapon they used is a fire whip...
You know the one.
"Super easy, barely an inconvenience!"
Is that a reference to the Pitch Meetings series? :O
I really hate that Qwark skip was patched out of the PS3 version.
Love anything RAC. So that's a sub from me brother
From memory you can ILJ all the way to phase 3 dreck from the start of veldin 2 as well as other movement tech to avoid haveing to grab the toxic crabs on orxon 2 to smash the powercells
Next run - can we beat ratchet and clank with just clank
Perfection
BUT!! Can you beat Up Your Arsenal with only the Suck Cannon? The ability to suck up boxes will probably make all the difference
i love your videos
Is there any way to emulate this yet? I check in on it every year or two.
So, no, four times over lmao
Fun video though!
Do a rac 1 challenge use only the weapons unlocked on the specific planet
Try R&C3 with Succ Canon only, or 2/3 without strafing
What's your favorite planet from the first? Mine is Gemlik Base, the best "planet".
So the solution to the enemies on Novalis was just to do challenge mode and start with the suck cannon?
Didn’t you forget the gadgetron PDA to use the infinite side jump?
What about pyrocitor only? (no upgrades for it)
Seeing this game stretched hurt my heart.
Ah bro! No! The run didn’t die on Umbris! Use the ghost ratchet trick by jumping in the mud & immediately using the swing shot, it unloads the collision.. then when you go up that large ladder that leads to the Sharkigator pools, - Hop to the left & jump THROUGH the wall.. you’ll land in a room with an empty pool & swingshot targets above it.. then all you need to do is, turn right, go up the ladder & jump to the left of the doorway.. there’s a pool of water, & a lack of a wall, that the developers forget to add.. from there you can swim in air.. swim all the way to the place where you eventually get the Quark spaceship… swim there, then dive & go up… ratchet will then start falling…. if you go into that room WHILE the snagglebeast is still alive, you’ll see the infobot is there, simply collect it… then reload your save, - you don’t need to even fight the boss at all.. -Fantastic video though dude subbed! 🔥
Holy hell, I definitely need to try this!
@@matticusomega Ay, glad to help bro :)
Do ratchet deadlocked scorpion flail only and tools of destruction shock ravager only
Do a no damage run of this game.
You werent okay with using ghost-ratchet on Umbris to jump through the door at the bossroom?
Wow... I'm trying gloves only run and I hate it. This? Ugh
Hey Matt Omega, do you know Ratchet and Clack 2 going commando? So you done this first game then you going to play second game? Yes or No?
but can you finish the game with only the taunter?
Waitwaitwait back UP.
Debug codes for Ratchet & Clank 1 are available?
On ALL versions?
Like on a non emulated, no cheating divice, original PS2 disc?
Seems so! I only have experience with my PAL copy though, haven't been able to test on NTSC copies
@@matticusomega What are the codes? I can't find them anywhere online and I wanna try them!
Found them on GameFaqs
gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps2/561107-ratchet-and-clank/cheats
I swear you can suck up crates to shoot or am i misremembering this?
Do flamethrower only run now!
And i always thought this weapon sucks!
How long did you practised for the ILJ? I tryed it and can't perform them.
I think I practiced off the ledge nearest to the landing zone on Umbris for about 30-45 minutes until I got to a point where I could cover the distance over the pit I ILJ'd over. Took plenty of tries to pull it off from that point too, so I want to say at least an hour of dedicated practice in total to get over just that one gap.
🤯🤯
Why not get the Gold Suck cannon on Germlik Base? You can get it on your first playthrough, no challange mode needed.
Because I banned it
you mean the succ cannon?
Gamechamp's videos are great! Glad she got a shoutout at the end
The crabs on orxon? those things are just awful
I may be able to assist with this
What's the debug code for ratchet and clank 1
Yeah I'm gonna be honest, I suck at this game.
Do ghosts ratchet on Umbris
Debug codes for the ps2 version ratchet 1??? Even Google doesn't give the know how other than the cheat codes a d emulator stuff
4:51 wouldn't you say it, sucks?
I'm just gonna say it, this challenge is gonna SUCK
wait a sec wheres hoven and that one lightnimg planet after quark fight? i guess those were no problem but you never mentioned them sooo...
Yeah, they ended up having nothing of real note, so I left them out
Do you have the second Ratchet and Clank game?
Hey! Make more videos please