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The New Balance FuelCell Rebel has carved a niche as a lightweight, versatile trainer for tempo runs and peppy days out on the roads. The v4 arrives with subtle tweaks, promising the same snappy and fun ride with a touch more stability through that new girthy midsole. Did they nail it? Let's dissect the shoe from top to bottom:
Upper: First things first, the v4 upper is offering a paper-thin engineered mesh. It's breathable through that toebox and holds the foot securely with a fresh new Formafit design, though some might miss the sock-like feel of the previous version. The midfoot gets snugged by a supportive wrap that integrates seamlessly with the laces, offering a personalized fit without feeling constricting. The heel collar is the first major change from the v3 to the v4. New Balance dropped the elf heel or heel flare, sad day. I'm not sure why they did this but I did experience a little bit of rubbing on my Achilles tendon with the new design to the heel counter in the New Balance Rebel v4.
Midsole: Ah, the FuelCell magic returneth. This iteration retains the responsive, bouncy FuelCell foam, but with a firmer core injected through the midfoot, but still sporting a 31 on the shore C durometer reading, up just 3 points from the v3. This adds a touch of structure compared to the v3, translating to improved stability without sacrificing the springy feel. You'll still love the bouncy midsole geometry that propels your foot forward with each stride, making those tempo miles feel effortless. The official stack height strikes a perfect balance between responsiveness and cushioning, making it suitable for a variety of paces and distances.
Outsole: New Balance opted for a more durable rubber outsole this time around, and bumped up the width of the heel by 10 mm, adding to more stability. While it might not be the grippiest on slick surfaces, it'll withstand the miles without wearing down prematurely. The strategic placement of the rubber ensures good traction on dry roads and gravel paths, while also shedding weight where it's not needed.
Verdict: The New Balance FuelCell Rebel v4 is a solid evolution of a beloved shoe by countless marathon and road runners around the world. It retains the snappy, comfortable ride that made the v3 a favorite, but adds a touch of structure that makes it feel more versatile and stable. While some might miss the sock-like upper of the previous version, the overall package remains a fantastic choice for tempo runs, faster training days, and even long runs if you prefer a softer landing and have strong feet to get you through. If you're looking for a lightweight, cushioned trainer that delivers both pep and support, the Rebel v4 is definitely worth a try, especially at 6.7 oz in US men's sizing.
Bonus points from Seth DeMoor:
The updated lacing system allows for a more precise fit, ensuring your foot stays locked in throughout your run. The overall weight remains impressively light (dropped a little) making the Rebel v4 a true joy to pick up the pace in. Final thoughts: The New Balance FuelCell Rebel v4 isn't a radical reinvention, but it's a refinement that makes an already great shoe even better for those who need a little giddy up and guidance through their gait cycle. With its comfortable, snappy ride, improved stability, and stylish looks, it's a surefire contender for your tempo day go-to.
I hope this detailed full review video gives you a good sense of the New Balance FuelCell Rebel v4. Remember, your own experience might vary depending on your individual preferences and running style. But hey, that's what test runs are for! Happy running DGR!
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New balance is my new Nike. I bought 4 pairs of NB in 2023. The more trail v3, the propel v4 and two pairs of the rebel v3. In fact I bought the second pair of the rebel just after running 10km with the first pair. It is much fun running in it
how you like propel v4 and rebel v3...what would you say about difference?
Agreed, NB is becoming my fav running shoe brand as well!
Yes I agree. Love my 1080v13, rebel v3, and the elite v3.
Yeah, how would you compare the Propel v4 and Rebel v3? I have the Rebel and was considering the Propel as well.
Great to see the latest Rebel being reviewed! I'm STILL trying to wear out the two pairs of the v2 that I have, so it'll most likely be that by the time that happens, the v3 will be a thing of the past and this may be my next Rebel purchase. Shame to see the heel flare has gone but I'm loving the redesigned midsole. I have a feeling this year could be good for NB, pics of their new releases are emerging and I'm excited!!
I have the V2 and love it. NB is slowly becoming my favorite running shoe brand.
I just ran in my Rebel v3s yesterday and absolutely love that shoe. Fun is the word! Of all the trainers that can be picked up for cheap right now, this has got to be right at the top.
Rebel is their best trainer IMO. So tempted to get one even though I don’t need another trainer for another year or two. Happy New Year!
Happy new year Seth and run community, sooooo happy to open up my CZcams channel and find your shoe review. Love it, please keep it up. I’ve said this multiple times, no one does shoe reviews like you!
Appreciate you George!
I recently bought the V3s and ran 66 miles in them so far. I’ve been running in max stack shoes (SC Trainer v1, Nimbus 25) and the Rebel was refreshing to run in.
Mostly running 5-mile daily runs in them. The only downsides are that I don’t like them for recovery runs and I wouldn’t take them over 6 miles. The changes in the V4 looks to remedy those downsides and at $140, I’d probably pick these up when I retire my V3s.
Thanks for the review, Seth! Great to have you and your reviews back on CZcams.
I have the NB More V3 and Rebel V3.
Love the springiness feel of the Rebel V3 and the lightweight. It's my daily trainer.
Still running in the rebel v1 due to past injuries. Love the shoe, fast, responsive and light. Great review Seth 💪
Wow, how did you find a pair? Great to hear Michael. Appreciate you.
since getting into running a few years ago now, the Rebel V2 was my first real running shoe, purchased from a local running story, I hammered 200 miles or so on them, and then moved to the V3, which I fell in love with, put 330 miles on those, and then now tried a Saucony Kinvara 14, as soon as these are burned up, I will be right back into the new V4, which will be in spring time, which will be when this thing is on the shelves, so I can't wait.
Happy new year to you and you family!
Thank you for the early review. I recently bought shoes during the winter clearance sales and now it think this updated version is worth the MSRP. Also looking forward to see reviews on the Brooks glycerin 21 and the Saucony Ride 17. Happy New Year!
Well done. U still got ur review chops Seth!
Old man still got it
Even before I click on the video to watch it I saw the picture and it immediately reminded me of a bunch of adidas running shoes from the new balance midsole on down to the outsole. Can’t wait or your long term review 😊
I recently bought a pair of v3 last year and can’t wait to try them on for a run 😊
Love that!
QOD: I bought the Rebel V3 to use as my daily trainer and used for all types of runs: daily (moderate), tempo, long (up to 12 miles), and even recovery. I loved the shoe, but sadly had to retire them after 325 miles after a PF issue in my right foot devolved after an 8 mile run in the shoe. The Rebel still had plenty of life left on the outsole and was still bouncy. I feel my PF started flaring because the shoe could’ve been a half size larger than I needed.
The V2 is my favorite pair of road shoes. With 650km on them I had no other option but to get a pair of V3, which are still packed in the box. Most probably i'll use them in a 180km (110mile) race in May!
I buying this as soon as I can. I really wanted a light weight daily trainer and this fits perfectly! V2 and v3 didn't have enough midsole for me but this looks great!
V1 was one of my favourite shoes ever, so much fun! I’m longing to find a fresh pair in UK10.
For me the rebel v2 didn't have enough cushion. However I have 2 pairs of rebel v3 and have worn both a lot. Great shoes. Also about the most comfortable uppers of any shoe.
Looking forward to the SC trainer
Really loved the V2 dissapointed with the fit of the V3 came up very small . Is the V4 true to size or is it snug thanks.
V3 is my favorite (added bonus, they are wearable as casual sneakers when traveling or even going to work). Also loved V1 and V2, however V2 just torn apart in just over 300km. From the review of V4 seems like its less of what I like, specifically due to this "extra stability" I don't need.
V3 is perfect, dying to try thisssss!!!
I love new balance. I had the Rebel V2 but I think that the V4s being more structured would be something I would love.
This sounds promising for me.
I LOVED the v3, it's my most used shoe last year by far - but I do think I would benefit from a bit more stability with my fairly mild (I think) pronation.
I have v1, 2 and 3.
The v1 upper still lasts, though the rubber outsole nubs has flatten but still grippy on warm/hot tarmac. mine at 600km.
the v2 upper of mine literally torn at the lateral side of my toes. it has been sent to recycle bin at 630km.
My v3 is only at 270km currently (i somehow prioritized using my novablast3 more).
That v4 looks wild. may consider giving it a shot
Beginner runner here, I bought a pair of Rebel V3 without actually understanding what kind of shoe I was purchasing because it looked way cooler as a casual shoe compared to others in the NB lineup. As a trainning shoe I know now that I should have gone with a pair of 880s or 1080s but the V3s aren't bad anyway. When running, they felt wobbly in the heel at first so you kind of have to learn to "ride" them but you can get used to the way the shoe runs. I am super excited for V4 because it changes the heel. Will definitely buy a pair.
No, the heel is very wobbly (unstable), mainly because the foam is so squishy and there is not as much foam under the heel compared to other shoes. They flare outward a bit, to provide more stability...not simply for aesthetics. Look at the Rebel V4...instead of an outward flare under the heel, it flares INWARDLY = much less stability. I never noticed this issue in a shoe before. It's a bad design and I hope NB fixes it for V5, because overall, it's a really good daily trainer.
its very wide, very soft and makes the heel drop feel zero drop. lovely shoe, its my shoe for hill repeats
I have put plenty of enjoyably runs into the Rebel V2 and even though they are “retired” I still put them on for a local ParkRun when I’m running with the kids.
I have the Rebel v3. Its my little more speedier daily trainer. I have the novablast 3 and I prefer the rebel v3. I did my last 10k race in them. They are comfortable and light. I also use them when I am going on a site visit which requires alot of walking. I am not sure if I will get the new rebels but I am eyeing the trainers.
Love the 3, the 2 seemed a bit to unstable for me, so I passed
I bought rebel v2 on sale by 50$ for my tempo runs and I like it, they are soft and light, a little bit narrow in the toebox for me in my normal size.
V2!?!?! Where at? Nice work
Rebel V3 still my favorite
I've enjoyed all the Rebel iterations, with the v2 feeling the best on my foot, plus the bounciest and most fun to run in. The biggest change I see, and the most necessary, appears to be the addition of the extra eyelet for a runner's loop, yay!
Mayb my first NB running shoes 🙈
what is the heel to toe drop on this, which one is the highest?
Can somebody use it for full marathon? I'm looking for none plated comfy, not supercomfy shoe. Thanks!
did you go true to size or half size up?
My first rebel. I was curious what you'd think of this one. I love the weight, upper, and midsole. Right now this is the best shoe I've had. The only thing is it feels like a quirky shoe to me, like the novablast, so some people might love it, but some might hate it.
would you be able to do a marathon in these?
Would these work for speed walking or half jog at a good pace for a little then walk some . Trying to get back to where I. was in December before total knee replacement surgery or should I go with new balance more v4 or 1080v13. Or other suggestions. I need them to be under 8mm , preferably 4 to 5 mm drop
The weight, ride, & comfort are my preference to buy shoe.
QOD. Yet to use Rebel. But it seems quite a buy for mid distance/tempo days. The super thin material is great. And you we support thru runningwarehouse!!
Appreciate you David!
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will these shoes do well on gravel? I run mostly on roads and paved surfaces but some of the parks I run will have parts that are gravel.
Seems this will be an update that I like. I liked the update to the SC trainer v2 so I'll probably like this update given it sounds similar in changes.
The Rebel V2 is still my TM shoe 😊
I've used rebel v2 and v3. I am happy with increased base as I felt v3 was a bit unstable. Also, my only complaint is durability of the upper and outsole. My v2 upper was ripped after 600k, and outsole wore off even quicker
NB Rebels are my all-time favorites. But my v2 and v3s both had a feature where their soft exposed midsoles swallowed up little stones to a point where I could feel them under my heal. v4 looks to have less exposed midsole under heel.
I've the V2 and it's a lively and fun shoes to run especially when they are new, however the fuelcell foam in rebel is not long lasting mine over 500K can easily feel the foam bouncyness deteriorated so I can only use it for shorter run definitely less than 10K and not LSD for sure.
I love the Rebels, the V2 actually tore in the upper a little early, the V1 is still going with over 800k in the shoe and that shoe is the quickest rebel they did imo. Look forward to trying the V4 but still naffed off that the V2 upper tore
no embargo? No peba?
This new rebel upper looks similar to the upper on adidas racing shoes.
I think that’s very true, also Skechers a bit
Actually, it’s very much like the Skechers uppers, almost has a plastic feel to it
Loved the rebel v2. The v3 was fine but it wasn't the v2 with the fit and fun. However, I've become more of a everyday runner to just get out and go and not so much going after PRs, it's about fun. So this v4 may be what I'm looking for.
Good video Seth, I did a pb in the marathon 2023 in the Rebel v3 really like the V3 the v3 felt a bit more structured than the v2 but the v2 felt slightly more pop than the v3, all the Rebels felt plenty wide enough for me, v4 looks a bit to wide, I bought Rebel 2 & 3 probably will get v4 🌴🌲🥳👊🏼🏃🏽♂️👍🏼😀
Thank you! Onward to new
Hi from singapore...yes hot and humid. Got the rebels...v1,v2,v3...
V1- speed intervals...really great for speed though need strong feets.
V2- still speed intervals...fast...probably faster then streakfly...near very near to vf3 but vf2 wins.(but yes don use plate for trainings)
V3- use it for easy and slow LSD...up to 30km. Jus was disappointed it not as fast as v1 and v2 but able to use in the hm range or slightly beyond.
V4- guess i wont b using rebel for speed intervals anymore. But its kinda looks similiar to another brand of shoe shoes😅 which i wont mention and rebel v4 is cheaper. I will use t for easy run and LSD as per V3. Not sure still i wear it...i think it wont b fast as stability and speed usually don gel together i assume?
would it be fair to compare this shoe to the Hoka Mach series or the Asics Novablast?
The Mach a little bit yes, not the Novablast any more, that shoe has changed too much now
Have V2 and V3. V2 definitely has more bounce, but kind of like the fit of the V3 better. V3 fit with V2 bounce would be unreal. I also like the narrow heel so I think I might pass on the V4
Happy new year everyone! Well I'm personally sad that it's nigh on impossible to find a true low stack 4mm drop neutral ground feel shoe. Saucony has blown the kinvara with the 14 and upcoming 15 and everyone just seems to want more and more stack, what gives? I've run a marathon in my kinvara 13s and loved them, but now everything is massive stack and high drop 😢
That is why I still have the Rebel v1 and like it more than v2!
Same with Boston (stuck @8) and Nimbus (24)
And if these are gone... I'll find a pair of old'n'good Adios4 😂
I'm wondering if the v4 is better than the speed 3 (or the 4s when they come out)
Or is this even on the same level of comparison?
There are going to be some great entries in the lightweight trainer category for 2024.
These are all the changes I was looking for in the new Rebel v4.
boom
Glad your back Seth!
You're the best Janet. Truly appreciate your patience with me.
Good review. Even if it's a little firmer than the 3, I don't imagine there is any non-plated trainer that is softer. I'm curious why your durability score was 6. I figure with a Peba blend and a little more structure, this shoe might last a little longer. Biggest knock on all lightweight tempo shoes (at least the non plated variety), even superstars like the Hoka Mach: they just aren't that durable because there is so little there.
If you liked the V2 what’s out there now (any brand) that you’d recommend as being similar? I was a little disappointed in V3.
I’ve had the Rebel v1, v2, and v3 and like the way the line is going. I think v2 was a highlight for me. It looks like v4 is trying to use some of the same design language as the rest of the 2024 FuelCell lineup. I don’t know if I’ll pick up the v4-at least not right away-because there are other more pressing items on my 2024 wish list. Very excited about the SC Elite v4 in February for one.
It seems to me that the Rebel and Mach are becoming very similar. The Rebel 4 has a wider base like the Mach 5 has and the Mach 6 will have a single chunk of supercritical foam like the Rebel.
I like the 3s the best.
Fair!
Do we know when this shoe is coming out in 2024?
Put the Beacon V2 upper on that shoe!
I loved the V2, probably the most fun shoe ive had, however the shoe did not last at all. It was completely torn up at 300km. They retail here I'm South Africa for the equivalent of $175. Crazy price for that mileage and local economy and it's deterred me from purchasing since.
I just bought the V4 (being a Brooks guy for the most part), but I am about to take it back. Why? Because the massive lack of rubber outsole between the mid-foot to the heel (where most of the foot contacts the road) means I am running mostly on midsole foam, where it can easily get chewed up by gravel (large or small) and asphalt. I can understand a small amount of midsole exposure, but there is more midsole area contacting the road than outsole material. That is the whole point of the outsole...to provide a tougher, more wear-resistant barrier. New Balance said "F*k It, we''ll save a little bit of weight and $$$ by skimping big on the rubber outsole." Bad idea.
At first, it was just a little bit of an issue, but the more I thought about it, the bigger of a problem I had with it. Plus, I have seen a number of reviews where they had problems with the heel rubbing. This is never an issue with a Brooks shoe. That is why I decided to just buy a pair of Glycerin 21's, instead. The Rebel 4 is a great shoe, but these 2 things (and instability in the heel...when just walking around, if you lean back even a little on your heel, it caves in way too much and can throw you off balance), but it needs more attention in these areas before I will attempt to buy a pair.
My absolute favorite - one of my favorite shoes ever - was the v2. The v3 was "ok" for me, but definitely not like the v2. I'll give the v4 a try at some point, for sure!
I want to buy that Sham-wow 😂
rebel v4 🤩
I am usually a us9 in adidas, Saucony and even new balance, but I felt better in the 9,5 in the v3. Should I go for 9,5 still, has the fit changed?
I just received the V4. I have the 1080 v13 in size 9.5 wide. That's my normal size and the fit is perfect.
I ordered the rebel v4 in a 9.5 wide and they run a little shorter.
Will probably exchange them for a 10 wide. Absolutely love the look and new style. You won't be disappointed!
Don't know, I might be completely wrong, but the geometry of that midsole seems Adidas inspired to me...
I think a few companies are following Adidas midsole geometry. The Endorphin Speed 4 midsole looks similar too.
check names on a side blue screens, should be the v4 not the v3 ;)
nevertheless, love your videos! ;)
that elf heel gone and gone is this v4 for me
I've had the v 1,2, and 3. Prefer the v.2. Not sure I am happy with the changes NB in making in all of the shoes I wear in 2024 (SC line) and the Rebel. We shall see.
fair
I started with the Beacon and then switched to the Rebel lineup. Had v1, v2 and the v3. The first one was really unorthodox and the shoe got more casual ever since. Seems like that's exactly how it is with the latest updated. And I think it's for the better. They obviously had to make room for the updated Pacer. BTW I also enjoy the first Pacer.
In last year v2s were insane value for money option. Fast and fun. And because i bought them for less than 50 bucks I don't mind their biggest flaw which is durability. Especially the outsole rubber wears incredibly quickly. I also tried v3s and I like the additional cushioning under the forefoot but they lost some uniqueness. For me with that version they started to feel like a little bit less refined hoka mach 4. A little bit less bouncy. A little bit less comfy, made out of cheaper materials and less attractive ;) And probably even less durable. I wonder if new Rebels have more durable rubber compound because I like the new look.
Manteca mi pan!
I really miss the Beacon series, why don't they produce anymore?
Me too!
Sounds like its a little more grown up the V4.
nb makes probably the best shoes right now....but what the.. too much stack height why?? nahhh
You look like the guy from back to the future 😅
I have a feeling that you are a little harsh with the shoe.. 🙂
He mentioned in the SC Trainer 2 review that he's dialing in his scores and an 8 shoe will now have to be pretty incredible.
@@davidmcquade4743 So an 8 score is the new 10..
David gets the listening award! 🥇 thanks David
I was pretty clear, GREAT for some folks, just not as good for me compared to the v3
It looks a lot like the Novablast and I’m praying NB releases it in WIDE! Something ASICS hasn’t done to my knowledge. Here’s to being excited for equality for fat feet lol
$140
Rubbing it in with that hat, congrats
I have all the Rebels 1-3. Seems like New Balance is slowly trying to destroy its wonderful “fast daily” shoe that debuted into a special well-loved niche.
Nice hat seth
I differ from Seth. I like girth lots of juicy girthness in my shoe. The girthier the better.
I am very upset with Hoka. They had one of the absolute best shoes ever with the Hoka mach five, with a huge fan base.
The Mach 6 has just came out and they did a switch up on all of us loyal mach fans.
The shoe is now another but Clifton with a different foam. And unfortunately, would you believe they have added a whopping eight millimeters to the stack. The shoe has nothing to do with the original mach series as is only 2mm difference from the Clifton's, give or take. What on earth? Hoka now have nothing for those of us who like a bit of a lower stack and a bit of flexibility without plates, etc.
These Rebel v4 sneakers Seem to be a very good replacement, particularly with the
stack height and drop, with only 1mm difference in the drop.
I know the Hoka Mac 5 was one of your favourite shoes also, so so how would you compare these rebel v 4 to the Hoka mach five? Hoka have lost my business now and im thinking of getting these......
I've had the v2 and v3... the v2 fell apart way too fast. I ended up sizing up by half a size in the v3 and those have been workout put amazingly... one of my favorite shoes. I groaned when I saw a picture of the v4 because 1) it looks way different and so potentially ruining the magic it was 2) its super ugly. Haha. Here's to v3 on clearance!
Found the V3 on sale at Marshalls for like $50 if you have 1 near you
How long ago?
Like 2 days ago@@davidmcquade4743
I bought a pair last August for that price. Over the weekend, I did see a few larger sizes of the v3 for $60
Yup... Saw the V3 at one of my local Marshall's last Friday. $59.99 I've been lucky with NB and Marshalls these past couple of month. SC Elite V3 and More V4 for $69.99 each. Saw the SC trainer V1 as well for that price but not in my size.
I had the first 3 versions. V2 was my favorite!
Thank you
Yah like that
Whatever processing you have on your microphone is terrible.