Palladium and silver from capacitors - the WET process

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
  • Pd and Ag recovery from Bg brown multi-layer ceramic capacitors using hydrometallurgy.

Komentáře • 154

  • @readoryx373
    @readoryx373 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Most thorough, skilled. What a teacher

  • @jamisontaylor878
    @jamisontaylor878 Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent video thank you!!! One of my favorite channels

  • @1lt3r
    @1lt3r Před 2 lety +2

    Awesome ❤️❤️❤️💯💯 Greetings from Bulgaria

  • @julianalcorso5703
    @julianalcorso5703 Před rokem +1

    Hey Owl, Another great vid.
    Mate, I wonder if I can ask you to do an experiment. My new lab is not ready yet and I have been wanting to try the following.
    Strip completely 6 - 10 motherboards with an air chisel or hammer and chisel, and do a rough sort to remove aluminum capacitors and other obvious junk. Then either incinerate and crush or boil in hot H2SO4, remove any magnetic materials, then boil in HCL + Some citric to remove tin. Then dissolve all metals other than gold in hot HNO3. Recover Ag (and then any Pd) then recover Au with Aqua Regia.
    My theory is that sorting components (if not making a video) is a waste of time and that nearly everything can be recovered by simply incinerating, grinding and recovering.
    As you are one of the few refiners on CZcams who understands the chemistry so I thought you might be up for the challenge,🙂

  • @tawnihaynie1065
    @tawnihaynie1065 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi. Thank you for your teachings. Please take care and stay safe.

  • @didiksantoso7391
    @didiksantoso7391 Před 2 lety +2

    This channel my favorite... excellent...i'am from Indonesian...👍🙏🏻

  • @whateversmurfette
    @whateversmurfette Před 2 lety +2

    :) nice. i still haven't processed my brown OR blue capacitors..saving them for a rainy day but i think i might get them done soon just in case the prices here in the US spike back up.

  • @OnsloVest
    @OnsloVest Před 2 lety +2

    Nice process, cheers mate

  • @battleshippotemkin560
    @battleshippotemkin560 Před 2 lety +2

    Как по мне- хороший метод, соляная кислота для удаления выводов и остатков припоя, борная -плавень и понижает температуру плавления керамики.

  • @alexisgodoy1396
    @alexisgodoy1396 Před 2 lety +4

    Hello greetings from Argentina, I'm new to your channel and I really like your content
    I would like you to explain which capacitors have palladium 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @johntherrian5365
    @johntherrian5365 Před 2 lety +2

    Good shit Owl.

  • @jonathanlawrie552
    @jonathanlawrie552 Před 2 lety +2

    Keep the videos coming owltech 💪

  • @scrappydoo7887
    @scrappydoo7887 Před 2 lety +1

    That's an excellent job 👍

  • @colonialcharlie8702
    @colonialcharlie8702 Před 2 lety +2

    Looks like the sodium hydroxide is a bit cleaner process than ashing these type of capacitors. Thanks for showing!
    I have a nice stockpile of these older caps. Id like to use the lye to strip a few other ones that look like they may be pd/ag type mlcc inside.

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 2 lety +4

      NaOH works on the clay coated MLCCs, for the plastic ones you'll need H2SO4

    • @razor1983
      @razor1983 Před 2 lety +2

      I am trying right now the NaOH method on some blue ones and I think they are plastic. I have been soaking them for 2 hours and nothing is happening. I will try to wash them and then add H2so4 and see if thar works

    • @razor1983
      @razor1983 Před 2 lety +2

      One more thing if I'm not to nosy. How can you tell when the acid is saturated? Thank you once more for sharing with us!

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 2 lety +2

      @@razor1983 hot H2SO4 will, but on some of them only flame helps

    • @razor1983
      @razor1983 Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you! So ashing and than continue from step 2.

  • @Vicsonvee
    @Vicsonvee Před 2 lety +2

    Gonna try it tomorrow for sure

  • @escrapchannel
    @escrapchannel Před 2 lety +10

    Hi, may I ask you to check the hydrochloric acid solution for palladium, please. In presence of oxygen (air) palladium is dissolving in hydrochloric acid. Thank you for the great video! 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 👍

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 2 lety +3

      I kept all washing acids and added aluminium foil to them, only copper precipitated

    • @escrapchannel
      @escrapchannel Před 2 lety +2

      @@OwlTech333 That’s strange …

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 2 lety +2

      @@escrapchannel it did cross my mind that if it dissolves the copper legs it will be dissolving the Pd too but...

    • @escrapchannel
      @escrapchannel Před 2 lety +2

      @@OwlTech333 The point is that I gave up from this process as I was finding Pd in the hydrochloric acid. Interesting .. I will do some experiments this weekend. Thank you!

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 2 lety +2

      @@escrapchannel diluted or concentrated HCl you were using? If you want to be 100% sure it won't touch the Pd you should use nickel chloride solution under reflux to dissolve the ceramics

  • @matthewmartinez1091
    @matthewmartinez1091 Před 7 měsíci +1

    From my understanding brother something that is highly caustic to boiling can desovle metals too. Boiling in HCL will remove base metals but tin should be clear now purple colloidal gold is purple and also from my understanding there's supposes to be small amounts of gold in MLCCs.

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 7 měsíci

      no gold in this mlccs, you can find gold on the surface mount mlccs wich is leached from the pcb by the solder

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 7 měsíci

      the puprle colour is from titanium salts formed from the dissolution of the ceramic substrate - barium titanate

    • @matthewmartinez1091
      @matthewmartinez1091 Před 7 měsíci

      @@OwlTech333 but I have seen a video where they refine Metals with caustic soda so you probably did lose some metals their brother.

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 7 měsíci

      Not with this process and caustic is used only to remove the coating

  • @user-vw4wl8kk2f
    @user-vw4wl8kk2f Před 2 lety +1

    Спасибо за мокрый метод!🙂Выход!!!👍👍👍

  • @BohumilGraman
    @BohumilGraman Před 2 lety +2

    nice :)

  • @SocratePrimusSapiens
    @SocratePrimusSapiens Před 2 lety +3

    Heya !
    Another method for recovery which will be of great interest for those who don't have furnace at home !
    It takes a long time to get rid of base metals using HCL but...
    It's the costless method of all !
    Anyway, i must ask you about your last video for bga caps and the problem of gold yeld.
    Did you recover more gold or did you bought bad materials ( Some bga caps do not contain any gold instead of their "gold corner indication".)
    Thanks for sharing your work and wish you a good summer time.

    • @colonialcharlie8702
      @colonialcharlie8702 Před 2 lety +1

      I think mostly missing gold was caused by the amount of copper heat sink bgas.
      The yeild estimates are likely more accurate if they are sorted. The batch seemed to be mostly the heat sink ones.
      1kg heat sink bgas will likely be similar yeild to less than
      1/5th kg regular/gold corner bgas

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 2 lety +3

      I think I've been given predominantly copper wire chips but anyway I keep all my slags so there will be a big remelt someday

    • @kamelsamer5768
      @kamelsamer5768 Před 2 lety

      @@colonialcharlie8702 what do you mean by "missing gold"? Why are all gold recoveryists complaining about missing or lost gold? Could someone please explain how gold is lost?

    • @colonialcharlie8702
      @colonialcharlie8702 Před 2 lety

      @@kamelsamer5768 the estimate for gold per kilogram is for either mixed bgas with some copper heat sync ones. (This was soo many if i recall) Or for no copper heat sink ones. The heat syncs are very heavy and skew the estimated gold recovery.
      Just something to keep in mind for those who may purchase or bid based apon an estimate they read.

  • @RobertERider
    @RobertERider Před 10 měsíci +1

    What's this soundtrack? Who is the producer? JAMS!

  • @CARLOSCESPEDESbiocihealth

    Good job

  • @alfredweaver5390
    @alfredweaver5390 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Is there a chart showing what pgm’s are in different colored ceramic capacitors?

  • @michaelkoonce3909
    @michaelkoonce3909 Před 2 lety +1

    awesome and thanks

  • @zafarazmi7599
    @zafarazmi7599 Před 2 lety +1

    Thousand times thanks 💞

  • @ilmulogamdantehnikpelogama9569

    Sir, why don't you use battery water that is stepped on with HNO3 sir?

  • @عبداللهاحمداحمد-ص3ي

    مرحبا اخي اشكرك عمل رائع لماذا لم تحرق المكثفات وبعدها تعمل بل الاحماض

  • @ourodolixo-e
    @ourodolixo-e Před 2 lety +1

    Nice bro 🧑‍🔬👍👏👏👏🇧🇷

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you!

    • @ourodolixo-e
      @ourodolixo-e Před 2 lety +1

      @@OwlTech333
      excellent extraction technique, it is much easier to recover and purify palladium.

  • @razor1983
    @razor1983 Před 2 lety +2

    Do all these steps apply for the russian capacitors? Thank you

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 2 lety +2

      Yes, the process is exactly the same

  • @user-ln3bx6wn8o
    @user-ln3bx6wn8o Před 5 měsíci +1

    روعه فيديو رائع

  • @readoryx373
    @readoryx373 Před 7 měsíci +1

    My intuitive ignorance begs me to ask why not perform the chemical separation before melting? The cost of nitric acid would be my first guess

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 7 měsíci +1

      this one was for sale and I have no market for pure palladium so there was no financial reason to refine it and since I have other videos on the refining process (and more to post ) I decided to cash in the alloy…

    • @readoryx373
      @readoryx373 Před 7 měsíci

      @@OwlTech333 a silver cell perhaps. I feel you in the southern border area and found a jewelry store in ABQ that has an XRF and has purchased from me

  • @bymancini1
    @bymancini1 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice video! I have a doubt, why the hydrochloric acid solution is so violet or dark blue, it seems to me that it contains palladium with the copper. Thank you very much

  • @TheDurdane
    @TheDurdane Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks, I havent seen a good non-smd MLCC refineproces yet!
    Why are you using boric acid instead of borax?

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 2 lety +1

      Works better on lowering the melting point of barrium titanate

  • @reshdarkoshur
    @reshdarkoshur Před rokem +1

    thanks for sharing

  • @mahmmud980
    @mahmmud980 Před 2 lety +1

    Goooooooood

  • @saefudinsuhri1709
    @saefudinsuhri1709 Před rokem +1

    thenk you

  • @55goldrecovery61
    @55goldrecovery61 Před 2 lety +1

    👍👍

  • @2001pulsar
    @2001pulsar Před 2 lety +1

    Why do you melt the foils instead of dissolving directly in nitric?

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 2 lety +2

      To eliminate the last trace of ceramics filtration of which is a nightmare

  • @ap.h.y.m4942
    @ap.h.y.m4942 Před rokem +1

    If I have acid containing copper and palladium, how do I separate the copper from the palladium?

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před rokem

      Refining Palladium, Gold and Silver alloyed with Tin, Lead and Copper
      czcams.com/video/kfMBHAy81eY/video.html

  • @MiguelSierra
    @MiguelSierra Před 2 lety +2

    Excelente.

  • @ap.h.y.m4942
    @ap.h.y.m4942 Před rokem +2

    What are the ways to separate palladium from copper?

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před rokem

      czcams.com/video/kfMBHAy81eY/video.html

    • @ap.h.y.m4942
      @ap.h.y.m4942 Před rokem

      @@OwlTech333
      Thank you very much.
      Yes, I saw it before on your channel as well as now,
      but if I do not have sulfamic acid in order to get rid of lead, can I use only concentrated sulfuric acid

  • @vipsantorini6997
    @vipsantorini6997 Před rokem +1

    May i ask how you remove the slag from the alloy using HCl since it had Ag in it?

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před rokem +1

      the slag does not contain Ag, the alloy does. With the prolonged boiling HCl I removed the borax glass not the silver from the alloy

  • @user-ln3bx6wn8o
    @user-ln3bx6wn8o Před 5 měsíci

    سلام عليكم اخي العزيز عندي بوردات موبايل ٣٠٠٠ كيلو كم يستخرج من عندهن ذهب او بلاديوم

  • @alexhsabro2028
    @alexhsabro2028 Před 2 lety +1

    Отличный выход.

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 2 lety +1

      Спасибо!

    • @BramMono-oe9jx
      @BramMono-oe9jx Před rokem

      @@OwlTech333 guru mau tanya:palladium apa bisa larut dengan proses basa pakai sianida?

  • @rabanitube3391
    @rabanitube3391 Před 2 lety +1

    Video yg bagus

  • @theaussienurseflipper.8113

    Where do you get these capacities from cheers

  • @Juragan99815
    @Juragan99815 Před 2 lety +1

    Nicee

  • @cuetTimmonz
    @cuetTimmonz Před 7 měsíci +1

    can we use vinegar and salt?

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 6 měsíci

      Yes - to season your salad, not in this particular process

  • @alligator8811
    @alligator8811 Před 2 lety +3

    Приветствую. А от медных ножек как избавились?

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 2 lety +3

      Солянком, тоже не поверил, когда керамика растворилась ножки там не было, а из раствор удалилась медь после добавления алюминия

  • @kevinsturgess1475
    @kevinsturgess1475 Před 15 dny

    👍

  • @hasantokgoz3069
    @hasantokgoz3069 Před 2 lety +1

    Sağol kardeşim kolay gelsin sana

  • @mbykhanov
    @mbykhanov Před 2 lety

    Hi, did you perform tin chloride test on HCl?

  • @AliMursito
    @AliMursito Před měsícem +1

    Ijin download

  • @blackcrow6110
    @blackcrow6110 Před rokem +1

    Почему добавили борную кислоту?

  • @fredericosilva2036
    @fredericosilva2036 Před rokem

    Esse maçarico é o fogo normal ou tem gas

  • @dmitrysarkisov6117
    @dmitrysarkisov6117 Před rokem +2

    Дружище не проще было размалоть в муку

  • @hasantokgoz3069
    @hasantokgoz3069 Před 2 lety +1

    Kardeşim bu palladyumu nittrik i hitrokirolitasit yapsak olurmu çökertme Hitrazinhitrat yapsak olurmu kardeşim kolay gelsin sana teşekürler çok çok çok sağol kardeşim

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 2 lety

      Kardeşim bu palladyumu nittrik i hitrokirolitasit yapsak olurmu çökertme Hitrazinhitrat yapsak olurmu kardeşim kolay gelsin sana teşekürler çok çok çok sağol kardeşim

  • @dizzious
    @dizzious Před 2 lety +1

    It seems too easy! Just boiling in HCl to remove ceramic? No Nitric acid required? Incredible.

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes this is a recovery process only, refining is another story

    • @dizzious
      @dizzious Před 2 lety +1

      @@OwlTech333 true, but it's so much less work than pyrometallurgy and cupellation

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 2 lety

      ​@@dizzious only seems this way, with pyrometallurgy this whole day of boiling could have been squeezed down to an hour tops

  • @tinsoffish1810
    @tinsoffish1810 Před 2 lety +1

    Is the boric acid a flux?

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 2 lety +1

      yup. lowers the melting point of barium titanete

  • @tamoneki7854
    @tamoneki7854 Před 2 lety +2

    Svaka cast! Znanje, volja i velika energija! Rentabilnost??! 😱🤢🤮

  • @tomspeed2000
    @tomspeed2000 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Is this process also works with small cubic kind mlcc?

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před 5 měsíci

      I haven’t tried but I don’t see a reason why it shouldn’t

  • @ilmarzeiger729
    @ilmarzeiger729 Před 2 lety +1

    👍🤗👍

  • @antonvlogs2105
    @antonvlogs2105 Před rokem +1

    Very hard to get pure palladium.

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před rokem +1

      Very easy actually, haven’t uploaded the video yet

  • @clubsoda85cook55
    @clubsoda85cook55 Před 2 lety

    I would be interested in purchasing 500mls of your gold recovery waste liquid..

  • @user-we7dw5ox6s
    @user-we7dw5ox6s Před 2 lety +1

    👀👍

  • @fredericosilva2036
    @fredericosilva2036 Před rokem

    Esse que vc coloco qual produto

  • @fredericosilva2036
    @fredericosilva2036 Před rokem

    Em vc está colocando ele pra ferver

  • @CarlosRodriguez-uu8sb

    Escriban en español ....lo q no entendemos inglés no lo podemos leer y como consecuencia dejamos de verlo

  • @whatwill1812
    @whatwill1812 Před 2 lety +1

    Ooyy

  • @ajingolk7716
    @ajingolk7716 Před rokem

    Sodium hydroxide eat glass😢

  • @nelsonbran4628
    @nelsonbran4628 Před 2 lety +1

    Palladium by Sprott:
    czcams.com/video/iHpH8u4FRjk/video.html

  • @tinsoffish1810
    @tinsoffish1810 Před 2 lety +1

    Second

  • @САМУРАманагаваАйкен

    Вначале насыпали - каустическая сода?

    • @OwlTech333
      @OwlTech333  Před rokem

      Так точно

    • @BramMono-oe9jx
      @BramMono-oe9jx Před rokem

      @@OwlTech333 guru mau tanya:palladium larut dengan sianida tdk?