JWST Spots Massive Fully Formed Galaxies When the First Stars Should've been Forming in the Universe
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In 2023, the Webb Telescope’s observations revealed several massive disk galaxies that had formed between 400 to 600 million years after the Big Bang, contradicting 99% of theoretical predictions altogether.
Data from the Hubble telescope had earlier suggested that disc galaxies were almost non-existent until the Universe was about six billion years old, but Webb's results push the time these Milky Way-like galaxies form to almost the beginning of the Universe.
That points to some serious inconsistencies in our understanding of the early Universe.
Scientists-part of the JWST Advanced Deep Extragalactic Survey program ( JADES), spotted a galaxy very very old. The JADES team then conducted even deeper imaging: five full days on just one field, to form the JADES Origins Field. That was followed by a 75-hour campaign to conduct spectroscopy, which confirmed that JADES-GS-z14-0 was indeed a record-breaking galaxy formed only 290 million years after the big bang, and a fainter candidate-JADES-GS-z14-1 was nearly as far away.
Not only are these galaxies the oldest to have been ever spotted, they are surprisingly massive and bright. Further analysis revealed that the stars in the galaxy are around 90 million years older, which means they formed only 200 million years after the Big Bang.
According to our cosmic models that is the time the universe was in a chaotic state with the first stars forming and beginning to come together to form primordial galaxies.
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I think that scientists may have to come to the realization that their Standard Model of the universe does not hold up to scrutiny anymore.
The universe may be way, way older and way, way larger than we can fathom, at this time.
At one point, people thought the earth was the center of the universe,... until it wasn't.
So, it is time to reconsider some things.
They won't do it; too many careers built on it. It'll require a new generation to overthrow the standard model.
@@duncregIts not about needing a new generation, it's about needing a new model that seems to be better than the old one. You don't throw out the old model if there isn't a new model to replace it
id like to hear any of your ideas or input... let me guess...you don't have any
@@duncreg James Webb Space Telescope has been a faulty telescope since summer 2022 (6 months after it first launched) when it was hit by an asteroid. Before then the telescope was working very well. The rocks damaged one of the mirrors on the telescope, messing with the infrared measuring device which now is giving us false images.
@@snoutysnouterson James Webb Space Telescope has been a faulty telescope since summer 2022 (6 months after it first launched) when it was hit by an asteroid. Before then the telescope was working very well. The rocks damaged one of the mirrors on the telescope, messing with the infrared measuring device which now is giving us false images.
These discoveries really are challenging everything we think we know, aren’t they?
Fascinating.
Some things.
In any discussion of Unified Theories, Gravity, Electromagnetism, and the Strong & Weak Nuclear Forces are taken as the four fundamental forces of nature; the first two are part of our everyday, macroscopic experiences. It's curious that Electromagnetism has been uniquely excluded from Cosmology.
It makes sense to use all of the tools in the toolbox.
"Magnetohydrodynamics & Plasma Physics" is discussed in Chapter 10 of Jackson's "Classical Electrodynamics" (2nd edition). Revisiting the concepts in "Cosmical Electrodynamics" by Alfvén & Fälthammar, and "Physics of the Plasma Universe" by Peratt deserves attention, especially in light of contemporary observations from JWST and other observatories, for example.
Postulating the existence of Dark Matter & Dark Energy but ignoring Electromagnetism reminds me of the Sydney Harris "... then a miracle occurs." cartoon.
In recent years I've seen people mention more and more things we found in space that we shouldn't have, larger, older. I feel like it hints that the universe is much older than we previously thought.
I would expect even older galaxies to be discovered and then we would realise that our current methods of evaluating or calculating the age of the universe is totally wrong and that we are not in the centre of the universe more likely at one end of it really?
Universe probably has no center. Just infinite existence.
Why would you say we are not in the centre? Nobody says we are in the centre
@@sluny1no "thing" can be infinite. Infinity is the absence of numbers, the universe has things in it, that's litterally finity.
@@snoutysnouterson we aren't the center... only people like you say that
@@sluny1it has a center..just do a bit of research my guy
JWST Launch and deployent was a hole in one, everything was better than perfect,
JWST was designed to précise our models of the universe. Instead it shows us a very différent universe
The only thing that we know, for sure, about the universe, is that we don't know much of anything, for sure about the universe, even the stuff that is promoted as being "for sure".
James Webb Space Telescope has been a faulty telescope since summer 2022 (6 months after it first launched) when it was hit by an asteroid. Before then the telescope was working very well. The rocks damaged one of the mirrors on the telescope, messing with the infrared measuring device which now is giving us false images.
Well, if we didn’t think we could learn new things from the telescope we wouldn’t have launched it.
You've missed the point, the surprise is in discovering the surprise.
I believe that the entirety of the universe formed as a pocket of spacetime all at once similar to a burst of vacuum energy. Once the fabric of the universe cooled most of it condensed and collapsed into swirling pools which pulled the baryonic matter into direct collapse black holes with the eddies forming the stars and galaxies. The dark matter of the fabric spacetime would collide and spray away from the center rather than be swallowed by the black hole. It would then rain back down on the plane of the galaxy. These pools of dark matter would only occupy about 0.1% of their former volume. The deepest gravity wells would experience time dilation and thus time would pass much more rapidly for areas not in them. Once stars and AGN formed they would begin the process of evaporating the liquid dark matter.. On average throughout the universe time would speed up from that point on while particle mass would slowly decrease as the average liquid dark matter content decreased. The altered ratio of dark matter to baryonic matter resulting from the vaporization process would then have influenced the formation and evolution of galaxies. Progressively smaller stars would have formed due to the shallower gravity wells. Larger diameter galaxies would also have evolved due to the lower LDM concentrations
Like the clouds of water that surround our planet, clouds of dark matter surround our galaxy. These clouds like fog banks can settle into the galaxy or if two systems collide actually rain down causing bursts of star formation. Anywhere in the universe can contain a deep pool of dark matter as well as any area can become a desert..
Dark matter is like the ocean it has currents and streams. It also has different salinities (concentrations of normal matter) depending on how much dust and gas has been accumulated.
The distribution of dark matter in and around galaxies could also be explained by phase transitioning dark matter. The closer to the plane the higher the liquid dark matter content. As this dark matter encounters stars, planets and moons some of it is converted to gaseous dark matter and begins to rise away from the plane due to its phase transition acceleration. This causes it to circulate away from the plane until it encounters gas or dust and rains back into the gravity well. This whole process sweeps dust and gas back toward the middle of the galaxy. The plane of the galaxy would look like lake country with the flow from overflowing gravity wells streaming outward along the plane. This would be the (DDDM) double disk dark matter. Not necessarily a solid layer but more like a filamentary structure along the plane of the galaxy. The majority of dark matter that comprises the fabric of spacetime is movable. Mother nature was smart enough to ensure that wherever more material accumulated that the fabric that contained our spacetime bubble also accumulated more mass to contain it.
Universe 13 billion. Earth 4 billion
Whos years are we talking about?
Earth years. Obviously
Wow… truly amazing! Thank you ☺️
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you .
James Webb Space Telescope has been a faulty telescope since summer 2022 (6 months after it first launched) when it was hit by an asteroid. Before then the telescope was working very well. The rocks damaged one of the mirrors on the telescope, messing with the infrared measuring device which now is giving us false images.
Its all complete guess work and great job if you can get one !
why cant creation have fully formed galaxies at the beginning of time??
the 'big bang' is a theory, not a fact.
Indeed, but it's far more accurate than the "Steady State" model of cosmology, and is backed by Einstein's theories of Special and General relativity - both of which are the most accurate models of the space/time continuum we know of.
Of course, given it's incompatibility with the Standard Model of Quantum Mechanics, one has got to be wrong.
The observed bang is a local phenomenon, the universe is much larger.
JWST challenges the current view. For what it costs, it should.
beginning to look like the universe could be 2x older than claimed...
So many things are not known, and the JWST is showing more and more anomalies that need explaining. All theories need to be challenged. There is always the mystery of exactly what dark matter is and now more things are thrown into the mix. It is amazing what already has been found out about the cosmic expansion of the early universe from a hot dense state up to the present time and now new information is forthcoming. Thank you for this wonderful content.
James Webb Space Telescope has been a faulty telescope since summer 2022 (6 months after it first launched) when it was hit by an asteroid. Before then the telescope was working very well. The rocks damaged one of the mirrors on the telescope, messing with the infrared measuring device which now is giving us false images.
@@user-yv3eu6hf6h Thank you for this interesting and valuable information.
This video constantly uses misleading phrases like "big bang" and "early universe" when neither of these assumptions have been confirmed.
It is also ludicrous to say "the standard model of cosmology and galaxy formation have been incredibly successful" when this model is the Lambda Cold Dark Matter model with neither dark energy (Lambda) or dark matter being physically detected leading to a universe with 95% of the mass/energy content being totally unaccounted for. I can't think of a worse "successful" model - can you?!
Much older galaxies are certain to be found. And as they are further away/older their light will be redshifted to radio frequencies so radio telescopes will need to play a bigger role in future discoveries of distant galaxies.
I’ve never got do this. First. And now I’m that guy I hate. Also great video.
NERRRRRD!…..
Second 😄
No, that's not a real first, you included a worthy comment.
Wow, so does this mean that the universe is created by a number of big bangs? And at different times? 🤯 My little brain is hurting...
1:08 According to reality, the Standard model is a bunch of balogna. I'm out.
I'm telling you, your grandmother has been praying you'll believe in God. He answers in mysterious ways, and often leaves us with more questions. He created these laws of physics.
is that bomb in outer space, well if it is then we should be OK, unless the bomb creates a local instability in space then I guess we are in trouble.
Humans don't know
So what’s up? No bombs were dropped anywhere in the universe, except on earth. So the theories don’t seem to tally up. But the theories were always too complicated for the godsfearing majority. Brilliant minds will come up with better explanations. Long live science!
James Webb Space Telescope has been a faulty telescope since summer 2022 (6 months after it first launched) when it was hit by an asteroid. Before then the telescope was working very well. The rocks damaged one of the mirrors on the telescope, messing with the infrared measuring device which now is giving us false images.
I always listen to user-randomelettersandnumbers.
I'll bet the universe is closer to 50-75 billion or even older.
Is it just me or does the quote “beginning of the universe” sound ridiculous when the universe is “infinite”?
You've missed the point. It was not always infinite, supposedly. Before the thing that became everything exploded that thing was not infinite. It was finite.
Welcome to the infinite plain people, the Big Bang no longer fits the observable universe
I always laugh when arrogant scientists proclaim their theories as fact, using unproven untested untestable years and age of the earth and the universe. Congratulations God for once again confounding man’s thoughts about Your creation. . .
Psalms 2:2-4 (KJV)
2 The kings of the earth set themselves,
and the rulers take counsel together,
against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder,
and cast away their cords from us.
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh:
the Lord shall have them in derision.
Was no big bang
Yes was big bang.
Many big bangs?
@@jeno264 The "big bang" was just the latest, but it wasn't the first. Its a contact state of rebirth.
God stretched out the universe in an instant. What he created would already show some signs of age. And, as we’re seeing, young aged galaxies don’t fit their model, which tells us science is wrong on how long it takes to form large galaxies.
No place for God squad here you muppet
Oh God is male is he? so he stretched out the universe in an instant and it already showed signs of age?. If you take off that red hat you wear it might aid thought.
They launched on Christmas day? I don't care what the launch window was, or cost, or anything else. That's just wrong to take people away on Christmas day just to launch something into space. Years from now when JWST is retired, nobody is going to look back and say "thank God we launched on Christmas day and didn't wait so people could spend time with their families."
Its 🎉
Dhu
Happy xmas I guess😮
You launch when the universe tells you to.
@@clevelandplonsey7480 Like I said, I don't care what the launch window was. There isn't only one.