Can you have TOO MANY PLANTS in Your Aquarium? Yes, Plants Can Even Crash Your Tank.
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2:42 Duckweed and other floating plants causing insufficient surface exchange
5:10 Lower / inner layers of heavily planted tanks dying off
8:10 Algae as a warning and back-up in cases of imbalanced nutrients
10:40 Carpeting plants ("any dense plant") dying, I think?
12:47 Plants that aren't aquatic plants just dying
Thank you kindly!
Ah so there IS such a thing as too many plants. This was very useful for those us who love a jungle vibe:) I will definitely be thinning mine out a little. (Slowly.)
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!
I have had duck weed and salvinia completely wipe out colonies of fish and shrimp, I’ve made sure to always keep them to a minimum now.
Thank YOU for sharing
Your research/knowledge -first class. Some of the things you unravel in this channel. For example filterless aquarium now plants. Well done!
Thank you
This is another example of why I prefer hornwort as my floater. I only have to thin out the oldest 2/3rds of darker stuff and leave the newest 12-18 inches every 8-14 days, and it is a nitrate blackhole! Plus free compost and the occasional sale. I love it!
Don't use flowing water to workaround the covering duckweed issue, unless it is for a couple of days. I had crash a tank like that in the past. I had a nice layer of duckweed, but had the underwater pump was always making sure they had oxygen, until one night I had a power outage. It was it. all the fishes and shrimps were dead next morning.
Oh yeah, i can see where that could happen, for sure. Thank you
This was very timely for me. I have a small goldfish pond and recently noticed a plant I thought was a weed, was growing submerged in the pond. I happened on it at a nursery later that week and found it was actually a groundcover called creeping jenny. I searched on CZcams and several channels claimed it could be used fulling submerged so I am trying a sample of it out in my tanks to see if it can adapt. I was concerned about the risk as far as melt back etc. and polluting the water. I will be doubly vigilant now.
It will become aquatic :) but i like it emersed more. Its basically like an ivy or vine
Creeping jenny is a ground covering creeping plant that flowers. It does the same on the surface of ponds as a creeping floater
I could have written this post! Creeping jenny doing very well so far in two tanks
I love your nearly overgrown planted tanks. One day I will get there.
A 160-gallon aquarium is tough to fill with plants and get that overgrown look
That is a challenge! Time heals all
Like the person says I can eat anything and not gain weight…..after a few months it will be there .
Something I'm trying next is a tank without *any* stem plants, and other problematic plants. If any are gonna be emergent, it'll be ferns, anubias, tall swords, bulbs, or similar. Things that won't grow out of control like floaters, get ragged like stems, or fill in infinite 3d space like crystalwort, subwassertang, or maybe even water moss, though that one will still probably happen since I've never had that cause any problems. This is hopefully a way to ensure that my plants will avoid running rampant even without pruning. The only real concern is getting enough column feeders in there, since non-floating column feeders tend to be so slow.
My heavily planted 200 gallon takes the nitrates to zero and the plants begin to starve. I add Seachem Nitrogen to give my plants the nitrogen they need
That , more fish or trimming are the basic options 😊
@@Fishtorymore fish!
mikimí loves your iriatherina werneri 🥰
I just add more fish 😅
Thank you for this video! My Amazon sword has 5 shoots out the water, and the submersed leaves are dying...now I know why!
Legend has it - the beanstalk jack climbed was sessiflora.
I swear that a majority of my tank maintenance involves removing layer after layer of duckweed and too dense a layer of hornwort. I leave SOME for babies and biofilm for my shrimp, but it’s a constant battle. I’m also having a lot of algae on the leaves if some plants…but the shrimp seem to love it!
Yes its a commitment, but the fish and inverts love it
Chickens eat duck weed if you have some
If you have any tanks that have mostly fish you can always set up a scud tank and throw the hornwort in there. I have a 40 breeder tank that the fish ate the scuds to the point that I could only be seen when I moved something or vacuumed the substrate. Still had shrimp babies survive. I have just recently seen baby shrimp smaller than the scuds I have in a small tank.
Great free compost!! The algae sounds like an accidental win-win for you and the shrimp! As long as it doesn't suffocate your plant. Have fun! (Just saw a comment about shrimp getting stuck in hair algae, fyi.)
Hello Fishstory! Great video, excellent tips. Duckweed can be a nightmare to keep, and yes if not careful and kept in check; it will kill everything below. I also had layering problems with Naja guadalupensis to a point where fish could barely swim and getting all over other plants slowly killing them. It is very important to keep things under control or else your aquarium will crash as you mentioned. Unfortunately, for some of us, we had to learn the hard way.
I haven't had it happen personally but I've heard of people who've had fish die because of hair algae. They get tangled up and drown 😢 betta Fish are very susceptible to this.
Thats a good point, it definitely can be harmful in dense colonies
Haven't had fish yet, but I think I've unfortunately had some shrimp die overnight in hair algae - I imagine they were exploring and got tangled in before passing
@@chrishuynh_0043 I never thought it could happen to shrimp. Thank for the warning!!!
I saw an oto get stuck in an invisible strand once. It was fairly easy to manually remove while I dialed in my parameters, but still, otos are tiny and I could have missed it.
Thanks Alex! Great info!
I went out of town for work, and my roommate left the light on 24/7 on one of my tanks and I came home to a jungle! So this is timely for me.
I Hope it helps Out
Thank you. Always helpful with real life situations. ❤
Thank you for your time and knowledge. Greetings from Poland.
PS, Your shrimp evolution video is the best I've seen so far. And I've seen many of them.
Cheers. J.
Thank you so kindly! Have a great week my friend!
Great run through.
Glad you enjoyed it
I’ve had all those things happen to me. I consider it the planted tank learning curve.
Well i consider you a very knowledgeable fishkeeper, and you gotta live and learn to get there hah
Super love how your aquariums are looking!!! #goals
Glad you like them. Thank you
Love it Alex! 😁😁😁
Thank you kindly.
Thank you Alex!
Sure thing! Thank YOU
You did a good job on this one, and It is so helpful for me:)
I had already surmised the dead roots and plant matter + a sudden over growth of bubbly algae , is what caused the death of two of my goldfish in my outdoor 150gal container pond (thanks to the comments you had been making in your other recent vids). As I only had 4 fish in there, that would be a 50% loss.
The tank is under stocked, had plenty of surface area, and with clear water , so I wasn't worried, but i had not yet turned the air bubbler- sponge filter back on (turned off for winter), and then we had that sudden increase in temperatures, 80s and 90s in may!?
Not a good combination for oxygen levels, is my best guess.
I will be more vigilant in the future, and perhaps add a fall clean up to the routine.
Thanks Teach😊
I think your assumptions are 100% spot on, with the info provided. Nice! Best wishes moving forward
👍 ! 👍 ! Helpful video.
Wow! Great content. I learned a bit more. Thank you
Glad to hear it! Have a great weekend
I like the new name! I tried my hardest to get duckweed out of my tank. Frogbit still takes over tho lol.
Thank you for this...I have small tanks with the light that came with the tanks so it's not intense, I have planted tanks but no duck weed. I like to trim the plants or it gets too crazy. Constantly cutting the dumb rooty plants trying to live above the water line. One tank has Pothos sitting on top. I have the lights on timers.
Get a duckling to feast on the duckweed 😅
Or a goldfish 😂
This is great information. I notice that my pygmy corys are happy when thin out the floating plants, or they strike the surface more often, anyway.
Ive noticed the same!
Some plants are toxic to fish water if they fall in, I know someone who has a pond and they had to get rid of some plants because the leaves or needles were killing the fish
Yeah, needles and pinecones especially, those are a 100% tank/pond killer
Love the new name. It's going to be easier for me to remember now lol
Thank you. Itll be a shift over a few months, but "@fishtory" works right now, already... id yuh need me. Cheers
alot of plant, during the night can cause lower oxygen since the plant take oxygen during night
Yes this is exactly what i was talking about in number 1 with the duckweed causing that co2 to build up
Excellent
Another great video answering all my questions and then some
Glad I could help
Simply excellent information I noticed that too many plants can be a problem with certain types of fish especially cichlids most of these types of fish like some room to swim excellent video
Most definitely. Thank you
Thanks!
Thank YOU!
Your tanks are so nice!
Thank you
This was very good.
Thanks Pattie ( 6 out of 10 patty stars)
Yup. To a certain degree I've experienced all of these events in my aquariums.
Thanks for the confirmation 👍 hah
Good content
I moved the video to 1.25 speed and it feels better. Love how CZcams has this feature. 😂
Yeah just do that with anything i say lol many people do.
@@Fishtory Yeah, a lot of people I noticed in videos speak a bit slowly for others to better understand them I guess. So speeding it up brings it up to normal conversational speed. lol
I watch most aquarium channels at 1.5x. I notice almost all of the channels speaks slower and or clearer, but I’m used to speaking and listening people speak faster in real life.
I have great results with growing house plants outside of the aquarium and the roots dangling in it.
My favorite is Hawaiin Umbrella (Scheffera Aboricola "Luslane").
The light is natural sunlight from nearby windows. I have very little algae, and the water perimeters are perfect. I do like your aquariums, but my wife lives here too and likes a "clean looking" aquarium. So, I have to respect that.
Thanks for the plant recommendation!
Your the best u tube channel 😊
Why thank you kindly... now just get other people to hear that lol. Have a great weekend
@Fishtory Oh, but we do. You're just too modest to realize it AND we're too forgetful to always hit the 'like' button! Dammit! 😊
Looking good😊
Thanks man
Is water grown Basil ok?
As well as:
Mimosa*
Lucky bamboo*
Wild Blue violets*
southern shield fern*
Water Celery*
Ponysfoot*
Samolus valerandi*
Liverwart*
Javamoss*
All of these are found in the spring I got my fish from.
*this spring is on my property so I am not stealing anything, just as a formality.
Thanks for any help, aquatic plants be expensive and petco stock is pewp.
Theyre all fine if the plant can get air above water with roots in the water...we call that emersed growth in the hobby...vs true aquatic or submerged growth.
havent had this problem in my tubs yet! here's hoping i don't find out this year.
Another excellent video! Will keep a beady eye on the creeping jenny i just added to tei tanks and not let it grow above the waterline......(?)
Yeup!
Added a few large water lettuce from ebay, to my year old dirt aquariums and noticed an oily residue from them once washed and also in the tank, similar to the rainbow effect when chemicals are seen in puddles. The lettuce started breaking down after a few days in both tanks. In last 24 hrs I've had mountain minnows, snow white plecos and Buenos Aires tetras die off. Did an ammonia/nitrite/ph test and all were normal. Then did a 50% water change. I'm wondering was the oily residue or plant breakdown to blame? These are the first die offs since using the dirt method.
Very interesting look at too much of a good thing
Yes indeed
I think the white fungus is due to lack of light and water flow reaching the bottom. I had it happen to me when i traveled and the solution was to open the lights and filter (was fixed when i woke up the next day). Starting to get this now in my 'filterless' shrimp tank and when i moved things around the white fungus seemed to look smaller and smaller. I have a 0 in and out policy now so I guess im going to leave it and update you on what happens. (scutellaria, hydra and planaria population all seem to have solved themselves with time)
Yeah so that can do it sometimes but this is getting a bunch of extra light whike i was gone
I’ve never had a problem with duck weed in my tanks with plenty surface agitation- movement of any kind would pulverize them into mush. It is taking off in one of my daphnia cultures 😂 less turbulence so they are happy
Honestly, I'd just remove it all. For a daphnia colony, floaters are a match made in hell. More dissolved nutrients in the water, and more light penetrating through the column means more floating organisms for daphnia to filter, and the water movement problem as well of course.
@@curvingfyre6810 if they weren’t living in a dark green water I would definitely remove it. If the nutrients are too thick it will suffocate the daphnia- the duck weed is hopefully stalling that while my culture settling in.
I have a question of everyone.
I want a low flow planted tank. I don't want to have plants in the small pea to small bean sized river stone, just floating and attached plants water spaniels, guppy grass, java moss. Is that a good idea? Also I bought a in-tank low flow mini pump with spray bar submerged to "stir the water" twice a day...is that good or bad? I have a 20 gallon long. Thanks.
Edit: I have bubbler filter sponge on 24/7.
Hello! I am a big fan of yours! I love your videos! In the background of your Angelfish tank I notice a plant that appears to be Poaceae sp. “Purple Bamboo.” There aren’t many videos about this plant on the Tube. I’m thinking about putting this in the back of my planted bowl which is about 9 gallons. Do you have any opinions about this plant? If so, I’d love to hear them. Thanks again! ♥️
It will outgrow that quickly haha it is a weed. I think I cut away most of mine after 4 years. But it there's still some in there, I'll do a spotlight on it ASAP. Thanks 😊
I have 10 litre shrimp tank near the window andd it gets so many light that all plants are covered with hair alagea. Alagea grows even on live snail shells. And even one shrimp has spots of green alagea. It is not neglected i do water changes but it is interesting to watch what direct sun does to a tank.
Oh yeah true sunlight will usually do that. Im all for water changes if you dont want the algae...i just dont mind most types of algae
I love to have a heavily planted tank problem 😂
I've been designing a rack with a quite a few grow-out tanks on it and I was planning to use a sump for filtration. Then I started watching some hydroponics videos where they use square PVC tubing with a pump to have water flows through it. I was thinking I could connect these to the tanks and grow edible plants in them and filter the water through the roots at the same time. I'll have valves and airlines for Matten filters for each tank too so I can tailor the filtration for each if need be but was wondering what sort of TDS levels would be generally safe for aquarium fish as they're recommending 800 for the plants and I can't imagine that would work well for the fish but then you see people using fish like Koi and Tapia for this purpose all the time..
It will work with african cichlids, some thai and Vietnamese fish from limestone creeks, and most livebearers. Sounds really cool! Best of luck
Yoooooo!!!
Try pea puffer fishes. They love eating snails.
Can you name some of the fish species we can keep that do prefer very heavily planted tanks they can barely swim through?
I'm like to know more about this too.
Sure! Rasboras of almost any type, gouramis, bettas, hatchet fish and killifish pencil fish
How to naturally increase the surface exchange in an aquarium in a filterless tank? Do bettas help, since they are always moving the surface a bit?
goldfish eat it all ! they love duckweed
Thanks for the heads up on non-aquatic plants. I put some regular grass from my yard into my substrate a week ago and since you said something I am just going to watch it more heavily than I would have and pull it if need be.
Yeah, you got it! its all a big balancing act. If you have any sort of electric filtration it should prevent most issues honestly. But if you're "filterless" it can sneak up on you
Bro whaaat? Is this a legitimate method? With the grass? (Genuinely asking, I don't mean to be rude)
Hope it didn't have pesticides on it from the neighbors yard blowing over....
Thanks for Sharing! about surface plants growing all over the water top in an aquarium with an hang-on filter. Should i still remove some of it or all the gas exchange is happening trough the filtration and it’s ok to leave the plants be?
You will be fine :)
My daughter leaves her lights on all the time eeeee the hornwart grows like crazy i don't think her goldfish likes it lol the patty seem to be fine ! But yah i have to cut it out all the time ,at the point of just throwing it away as i don't sell online lol my fish store is hour half away boo
How do you hold all those houseplants on the back of your aquaroum?
They're in the aquarium with roots wrapped around wood actually
I have a 10 gallon tank and i have gravel for substrate for now. but i want to change it because i want to try my hand in aquaplants. can i make do with black sand in the botton and aquasoil on top? thanks!
You can, but you probably want to cap the soil layer with 1 or 2 inches of sand to lock those nutrients in...so ammonia doesnt bleed into the water slowly for months. But you can also cycle it for 1 or 2 months and burn through the loose ammonia if you want...but it takes time, flow, water changes, plants and bacteria colonization
I lost a fish once that got caught in the roots of a java fern. Unrelated but I had a white cloud try to eat a snail and die because it blocket it's air way.
Yes there are those random head scratching moments lol. Ive lost several fish to getting stuck between the filter tubes and glass
anyone a plant expert that can answer my rotala and sessiflora are just stalks with leaves on top , Ive just upgraded my light and added root tabs . question is will leaves grow back or should I trim to the base ?
Trim them and replant the nice bits
Id trim them about an inch from the base, if theres no leaves they'll need that stem cell signal of damage to possibly grow more
@@Fishtory thanks not all bad trimming plants meant I could count the amanos , turns out I have 9 not 8 lol
your sleeve dipping into the duckweed was almost painful to watch
Lol yeah later it was quite annoying
Question ~ while we're on the subject of plants. 🤔 I've read that using a fertilizer with an iron supplement will keep red plants stay red? Also, will adding an iron supplement be harmful to my bettas? 🤔 Thank you! 😎
I used those hydroponic red clay balls/clay I dug in my substrate, and the reds are decent
@@voluntaryismistheanswer thank you for the tip! Going to look into it.
So a lack of nitrogen and strong light in the flowering spectrums ... so red light more than blue...has actually been shown to make the colors come out better than iron. Iron us an old wives tale that no one scientifically confirmed.
It wont hurt your fish, but its simply one or the essential nutrients, and not the key to colorful plants. Best of luck
@@Fishtory ❤️ Thank you! That actually makes sense! 🤔 Like I always say "your the wizard!"
My pearlweed gets so thick that it will have a die off in the center of the mass. And if you don't catch it soon enough the whole tank will get sick and loose oxygen.
I think im having that problem. My 5 gallon tank has 3 shrimps and a couple of snails and a shit ton of plants. I added amazon frogbit and my pearl weed seems sad
Could be lack of nutrients ...try root tabs or a little liquid fertz once ever 2 weeks perhaps
@@Fishtory thank you, i thought so too so i added ferts yesterday. They are pearling today :3 they don't seem sick they just slowed down on growth a lot
Do you think its possible to setup a filterless heavy planted tank with newts alongside shrimps and snails?
The newts will eat the shrimp pretty much immediately unfortunately
@@Fishtory would the snails alongside all microbiota be enough to deal with the newts waste? I am planning to do a tank based on a wild pond, taking the vegetation from it, is it safe to do this? (regarding microorganisms related to the plants and the water of the pond itself)
Hmm depends on their diet and size etc. But i would guess it isn't that different from a carnivorous fish of a similar mass like a small Oscar
Any idea why I can’t comment on your most recent video? 😢
Its fixed
Im still learning about the different types of plants I can get in my fishtanks. The main plants I have are java fern and frilled java fern.
I have other plants, they just glo under blacklight. I have neuro issues that result in waking up during the night, and my fishtank helps me relax.
I did plant one lily, but so far all I got is bulb. 😁
I want to get a better light for my tank, so I can try some of the more difficult species.
Hope Everybody has a great day!
I recommend getting a Bucefelandra, Anubias nana, Java moss, and maybe even some floating plants like Salvinia minima . They are 'easy' low light plants. I think lilies need a high photoperiod.......but goodluck.
If you will get a stronger light, then i recommend adding more plants to compensate so you dont get an algae bloom.
Have a great day and enjoy your tank 🙏
3 main types are: Stem plants (mostly from soil), Epiphytes (nutrients from water) and bulbs........i think 🤣
The hygger light is fantastic and is priced right too!
Continues light is not good for the animals and the plants Blacklight is light.They will at some point become sick and die.They need sleep like we do.
You got this! Have a great week
hi im at a loss. i have a lot of plants but not as many as you. i use ro water. i have checked and believe that i have no substrate or decorations that are raising ph. i have been using co2 injection. but slowly over time the ph of my tank has been going up to 8, 8.2 so on and so forth. what do you think can be causing this? thank you any others viewing this message any info would be helpful. obviously the ph goes down during co2 injection but when off at evening and night. the ph drifts way up.
Hmm are you feeding a food pellet with a bunch of calcium or something. That does have me a bit stumped...because it's gotta be something in the tank/water causing it, if your RO unit works properly
@@Fishtory no im not. ive tried to go the very little water change method that you do. i do have duckweed,and quite a few more plants. the only thing i can think of is dead snail shells that im late to remove,leaching calcium maybe too much combined with little water changes. thank you for the response. im going to try a 50 percent water change and remove empty snail shells and see what happens
@@markgarrett2968 shells could be it!
When my plants have die off or new stem plants loose some stems I leave em in tank . Let nature take its course
If you do water changes it will also prevent that
So basically don't do what you did 😊
grow the full beard my guy,it looks better
My wife makes me trim it...but sometimes i do grow it out haha
My angel fish keeps eating their eggs. Wonder why? They raised and hatched the first bunch she laid. But the last 2 or 3 she lays them and the same night or next night she eats them all. What should I do? Should I take her out when she lays them? Thanks
Good video, your teeth look great btw
Thanks!