The Great Schism
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- čas přidán 18. 11. 2017
- A thousands years ago, the Churches of the East and West split in two when their respective leaders excommunicated each other. While undoubtedly the most dramatic event of the relationship, history shows that this it was not, however, the beginning, nor the end of the events that led to the Great Schism.
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As an Orthodox Christian, I was expecting a much more one-sided depiction of this but you did a great job! That's what I get for judging
Marshedmellow I forgive you! Hopefully it's yet another small step towards reunification!
Breaking In The Habit Thank you my friend. To err is human, to forgive divine. Excellent summary on something I have struggled with as an Orthodox Christian.
From one Orthodox Christian to another stop listening to bogus excuses and getting brainwashed
This guy said nothing but nonsense
TheHackingWeasel Lol ecumenism is fun.
I'm an outsider looking in and I agree, he did an excellent job of explanation. Cheers to both sides for striving towards at least a unified front towards the real enemy-- the darkness.
As an Eastern Orthodox Christian myself, I'm impressed by Breaking in The Habit. The brother is down to earth, and presents the situation clearly. God bless him!
So so true..
Not that clearly? He refers to the post-"schism" AntiPopes and AntiPatriArchEpiscops as "Popes" and "PatriArch(Episcop)s". We OrthoDox SedeVacantIsts do not.
@@miguelpasamano4995 LOL
An Orthodox priest here who appreciates your creative work, Father. Reading the comments here suggests that you've got a lot on your plate. May God bless!
I urge to all orthodox and Catholics to get unite all over the world, as we are followers of Jesus christ, we use same bible , we beleive in passion week of christ, from birth of jesus christ to the resurrection, everything is the same. Old testaments and new testament are same. We beleive in trinity, the euchrist, the body and blood of jesus christ, we beleive in veneration of saints, we beleive in mother mary and in her prayers.. then why this difference let's get United keeping post, positions, status, the debates of doctrines and theology etc etc.. JESUS DIDNT MADE US ORTHODOX OR CATHOLIC HE JUST MADE christianity we all r one.
United we stand divided we fall. I request to Pope and Patriach and all brothers of orthodox and catholic family to unite together as early as possible because JESUS WANT TO SEE US UNITED HE UNITED US LETS NOT MAN SEPARATE
Amen, Kurealison, Halleluiaahh, BAREKMOR.
In the name of father, and of the son and of the holy spirit Amen
@@jacksonthankachan8555 I pray for that resolution. It would be my dream come true. It is very appealing what is happening to us
The pope as a undisputed leader is a no go for us. He can be the first among equals what he was in the past but nothing more
This is where you're all wrong. The OrthoDoxes/CathOlIcs/Christians names are intrinsically synonymous. We live in a world full of nominal "orthodox", other nominal "catholics", and other nominal "Christians" who refer to the post-"schism" AntiPopes and AntiPatriArchEpiscops as "Popes" and "PatriArch(Episcop)s" whereas we OrthoDox SedeVacantIsts do not nor do we falsely refer to a mixture of the heresies of "Collegialism", CæsaroAntiPapism, and sectarian nationalism as "OrthoDoxy"!
@@Sendo664 and by “us” who are you representing, brother?
This schism breaks me heart. There are so many treasures in both traditions (the Rosary, the Jesus Prayer, etc...). I would love to see both churches reunited one day. We really should learn from each other.
I urge to all orthodox and Catholics to get unite all over the world, as we are followers of Jesus christ, we use same bible , we beleive in passion week of christ, from birth of jesus christ to the resurrection, everything is the same. Old testaments and new testament are same. We beleive in trinity, the euchrist, the body and blood of jesus christ, we beleive in veneration of saints, we beleive in mother mary and in her prayers.. then why this difference let's get United keeping post, positions, status, the debates of doctrines and theology etc etc.. JESUS DIDNT MADE US ORTHODOX OR CATHOLIC HE JUST MADE christianity we all r one.
United we stand divided we fall. I request to Pope and Patriach and all brothers of orthodox and catholic family to unite together as early as possible because JESUS WANT TO SEE US UNITED HE UNITED US LETS NOT MAN SEPARATE
Amen, Kurealison, Halleluiaahh, BAREKMOR.
In the name of father, and of the son and of the holy spirit Amen
Yes even i wish the same and I m praying for that and also trying to unite orthodox and catholics all over the world.
They do when all nations come together for judgment
@wearenotabrickwallweareskittarii You mean to pray for Protestant people, I hope.
@@frankrault3190 Absolutely, but in our love for them we must not ignore their faults as is often done
I came in expecting a bias criticism of the eastern orthodox church and actually got a relatively unbiased informational video. I certainly appreciate it.
andyyyp scarborough I agree. I appreciate our similarities.
As a history teacher I actually graduated on this very subject. I think he was a bit too soft on the Orthodox side. If there was a bias, his bias was slightly with the Orthodox. Though overall still very balanced.
I appreciate it too. My wife's Catholic, this is very helpful.
Catholic here:
I wish if we unite together once again...
No, thanks.
No offence but I wish you weren't so heretical
@@louieanderson2847 look a muslim wanting separation lmao
TheBro We need to pray for unity.
No one bows to statues, but the child molesters need to go. Most Catholics think the pope is just a priest.
Excellent father ! (From a greek orthodox priest follower)
Σπυρίδων Χιόνης glad to hear it!
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He was killed by NKVD. I don't think NKVD forced the poor man to join the orthodox Church because communists killed many orthodox christians. My country(Romania) has alot of martyrs by the hands of russian communists.
In Asia, where us Christians are a minority, we remain in unity regardless of denominations by one idea, which is "Doctrine unites all christians". We are aware how each denomination has it's own set of dogmas. Instead of fighting about that, we just accept that they are not important enough to risk our doctrinal unity, which is the faith that God is a Trinity of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit, a.k.a. The Apostle's Creed. The most basic of vows that makes a person Christian.
The apostles themselves heard of believers of Jesus who were not from their group. They tried to stop them but Jesus said "those who are not against you are for you". This is the spirit that we embodied in Asia. It might sound heretical to some, but believe me. If we ever fight about who's denomination and dogma is true, Christianity wouldn't even survive in Asia. So please, friends from the west, cherish one another. You don't know how blessed you are to be born as a religious majority.
There is a saying, "My enemy's enemy is my friend." A common good makes a common goal. If it leads to Jesus, it's good.
@Jesse Alvarez I'm not sure that we as Christians should put much stock in such sayings. Liking someone because they hate the same people we hate doesn't sound very much like the message Jesus preached.
In the Philippines, there are many churches now and denominations working against the Catholic Church, they take and try to convert them into other denominations away from Established Church of Christ which is the Catholic Church. They really believe that Catholics will go to hell and should be guided into the right directions, The way many Catholics behaved, I don’t blame them for believing the Catholics church is the wrong Church 🙏🙏🙏
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Amen! ♡
It's very sad that here in the West I respect the eternal torment believers belief. However there are so many eternal torment believers that condemn me and many others for believing in universal reconciliation.very sad
As a Muslim dropping in to learn some history, this was an interesting video. Concise, well-explained and focusing on several different issues. Nice job!
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Everyone quick, convert him!! ... ... lol ... seriously, though, keep studying history!
I am in Orthodox Christian, and we are by no means innocent in any of this. Pride, power, money we’re all part of the schedule on both sides. But to hear you say that the early church had no centralize pope authority, and was collegial among all the bishops, and that the Western church was the one who changed their theology Frank such a warm feeling to my heart. It shows that maybe sides are willing to take their lumps Admit when we are wrong, and move forward hopefully together not with the Orthodox way or the catholic way, but with the way of the early church. God bless you and pray for me as I am praying for you
Thanks, I appreciate it! There are definitely ways in which both Catholic and Orthodox Christians could show a bit more humility and accept our own faults!
May God allow us the grace to work towards the table of the Eucharist. Many years to both of you and finally, Christ is in our midst.
without central authority, divisions will just continue to exist... even the Angels need St. Michael to be the leader of Angels...
Look at Eastern orthodox today...Schism again and it's 2018.... It's still happening..divisions and schisms...
Papal authority has been proven by Time again and again.....It is a development inspired by the Holy Spirit...
@@krishyyfan5153 There is no schism in the Eastern Church. There is one faith, and every orthodox may freely participate in the sacraments and liturgies of any Eastern Church. What you call "schisms" are temporary differences of jurisdictions - unfortunate for sure but understandable as national hostilities have become a sin for every human in the modern world.
Krishyy Fan why Pope? Why not a Patriarch of Russia Kirill or Patriarch of Constantinople Varfolomei? This is the main problem of the union.
Of course, there are some benefits of a union ruler, but there are also a lot of problems.
And please don’t forget, that bad Pope is worse than bad Patriarch, because he have absolute power.
in 2005 I spent the first half of the year in Rome, where I stayed at a convent hostel and the second half in Athens, Mt Athos and Egypt, but I was mostly in St. Catherine's Monastery at that time. Every Catholic I met, firmly believed that reconciliation was right around the corner and they spoke of its inevitable coming with absolutely certainty and rapturous joy. Every Orthodox I ever met reacted with utter horror and contempt at the mere mention of reconciliation. The monks at Mt. Athos speak about the fourth crusade like it was yesterday. I kid you not. One even said the only time a Catholic ever embraces an orthodox is to feel where to put the knife in his back. I think Catholics underestimate the amount of hurdles involved in reconciliation.
If the Orthodox were able to say " We' d rather see the sultan's turban on Hagia Sophia, than to unite with the Catholics", that means they were truly scared of the Catholics. Yeah, I agree, The Catholics have no idea of the horrible impression they left behind.
Let's not forget about croats,hungarian and polish catholics did to the orthodox serbians,romanians and ukrains
Being against unity due to vindictive reasons is unchristian.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but these Orthodox got the wrong idea. We have no doctrinal differences, it's all ecclesiastic politics. Jesus made One Church, not two or three. We need unity, and need to forgive all past transgressions. Catholics today and Orthodox today agree on theology, so why split unnecessarily?
"The Church *must* breathe with Her two lungs" - Pope John Paul II
@@sterianburghelea6567You are very right, there have been many times in which they have united with the enemies of Christianity, but everything has its consequences.
Super fair explanation. I'm Catholic but considered Orthodoxy for a while. Still have heaps of love and respect for my Orthodox brothers and often enjoy listening to Orthodox chants, agni parthene in particular which is so magnificent.
I pray we get reunited one day and seeing most of the comments here showing respect from both sides warms my heart.
Thank you!
As a catholic I belive that even if we have a cultural diference with Orthodox Christian, we should re unite as one.
I believe we are one together in the body of Christ... 1Cor 12 (if I'm not mistaken)
@@nicbrasali9202 NO,we are not united as one body of Christ right now.Many Orthodox churches ARE in talks with coming back into union with Rome.2009's Anglicorum Coetibus helped bring many separated Anglicans back into the Catholic Church
Richard Sells AZ Was your “NO” come from your perspective as a human, or the Holy Spirit told you so? Would our Lord, Jesus see it in that manner as well?
@@nicbrasali9202 .We are not one body of Christ due to schism(Orthodox) and heresies(Protestantism).We are not one in the biblical sense(all the apostles were one) or in the common sense perspective.When St. Paul wrote 1 Corinthians the Church was still one.We ARE working on bringing back many into the fold though.
Richard Sells AZ Our doctrine and human politics may say so “we are not one body of Christ”. But in fact we are serving the same God and empowered by the same spirit, I can’t really say we are that seperated.
We can refer to 1Cor 1:12-13, and 1Cor 3:1-23
As much as I hate the schism and as much as I also believe Martin Luther is heretic, I still treat those who believe in Christ as my brother in Christ, even though I’d refuse to join their mass (just not my style). I just hope for now we can coexist without keep mentioning who’s right, who’s heretic, or who made the division, and with a hope that in this way, the seed of union would be fostered.
Casey you deserve credit for your presentation in this video. It's much more honest than what was ever taught in the theologate and you deserve to be supported for your honest efforts.
powderriverfarrier Thanks!
Very well balanced and said, father! As an Orthodox Christian I was surprised to learn about the Orthodox-Catholic Theological Convention’s conclusion regarding the Filioque.
I’m just a layman so Lord knows I’m not qualified to weigh in on something as theologically complex as that but I can’t help but see that as another step towards reconciliation and, God willing, eventual full communion between the Eastern and Western Churches.
To paraphrase Pope John Paul II, our two Churches are the lungs that breathe life into this world. I truly do pray that our two Churches can overcome the politics and pain inflicted on one another (often centuries ago) and unite together in full communion and the love of Christ. I don’t know if I’ll see it in my lifetime but I’m confident that it will happen.
God bless you, father! You’re a wonderful man of Christ and we’re blessed to have you!
Raised Greek Orthodox here. I believe the world and spiritual lives of the faithful are suffering due to the division... that the Church needs to unite to be an example for the world. I'll follow on Facebook. Thank you for your work!
Both orthodox and catholic are praying that we unite as one. One day we will for sure♥️
Amen
Nah Catholic is pagan, Christianity is the truth. God bless
I'm catholic and I pray that we unite with our orthodox brothers and sisters. We need our church leaders to work together actively.
It's like the body of Christ is butchered when the churches fight, I hate it! I wish we will be united as one.
We are one. In the inspired words of St. Paul, "There is no Greek or Jew in Christ". Let the physicians argue over the clinical state of the body, we know when we are comfortable and have faith in The Holy Spirit that guides the hands if the physicians.
Since its founding by Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Apostles in the year 33A.D. it was meant to be ONLY One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism, One God and Father of all..Eph.4:5-6 and NOT the present 50,000 Reformed Protestant Churches with 30,000 of them here in the USA ALONE. At present there are 2 churches being founded per day in California alone.
Catholic Guy it is written, “is Christ divided.”
Those who are divided are not in Christ.
It got worse with Luther and Calvin sadly
I’m of a Syriac orthodox mother but Syriac catholic father...kinda weird, but I like it
Thank you, I didn't know the religious background of Peppa Pig!
Complete the triangle, be a Protestant
Ooh... I think that's cool. What a beautiful blend of the both.
Ahkao
I just said it for fun
No need to fight😕
Ahkao
We do have Eucharist though but we do it as his rememberance.
Hopefully all churches unite in Jesus name😀
Reconciliation by 2054?
Probably not but here's to hoping!
I hope so!
YES! Why not, other than fear?
We had it in 1451, where all but one man signed. At their return, EVERYONE in the east recanted their signatures, Betraying the very idea of ever reuniting. That was the last time the Entire church was whole.
And this is coming from a Byzantine Catholic
@@user-rh1jo1yy9e Chad St. Mark of Ephesus
So this is very interesting and have known a lot of this already. Personally, I am on the journey into the Catholic Church, and my 19 year old brother is on a journey into the Orthodox Church. We both encourage each other in our paths!
May your brother join you in your journey to truth to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Come home to Jesus's Church and all Heaven will rejoice!
@@timothyfreeman97 yup you guys are gonna win ppl over if you just repeat that. This is why protestants and Eastern Orthodox roll eyes at some Romans. haha XD
@@timothyfreeman97 lmao
watch videos on the orthodox monks, some are living saints!
It's so sad that our churches should be divided. Against Jesus' command! I hope we have a reunion in my lifetime
Do you think there is a "methaphysical" union among Christians humans can't corrupt?
@@wishyouthebest9222 Absolutely. Anyone who is a follower of Christ is in communion with him and therefore in communion with all other Christians. It's just sad that we aren't able to obey his command to be in earthly union as well
@@flightmasterr231 That's really heart-breaking but like with all earthly sufferings we find comfort in Christ who surpassed for us the boundaries wich we can't due to our compromises.
Jehovah bless you, sibling in Christ.
I feel no deference between my church which is Orthodox and the Catholic church, I love them as my own Church every time I get the chance to go to Church I go to the nearest church and that is a Catholic Church almost everything is the same I even get angry and defensive if someone say something agents the Catholic church or the pop.
Catholic here. I feel the same way abt the orthodox. Thats why I came here wondering what all the fight was about. I remember when I was very young, too young to understand the complexities of a schism, I had watched a documentary abt the schism. All I can remember idms that at the end of it my dad commented, basically it boils down to men with an ego in authority on both sides wanting power and control. That made me sad. I hate these sibling fights. Jesus must b weeping coz in actual practice we r not being loving n Christ like.
Melissa Monteiro Amen my brother. I’m Catholic but We all can agree that Jesus is Lord and he died for our sins and rose again on the third day. Why would need power when all we need is Jesus in our lives? GOD Bless my friend and have a blessed day
@@melissafeds1344 Usaid it very right ...
I urge to all orthodox and Catholics to get unite all over the world, as we are followers of Jesus christ, we use same bible , we beleive in passion week of christ, from birth of jesus christ to the resurrection, everything is the same. Old testaments and new testament are same. We beleive in trinity, the euchrist, the body and blood of jesus christ, we beleive in veneration of saints, we beleive in mother mary and in her prayers.. then why this difference let's get United keeping post, positions, status, the debates of doctrines and theology etc etc.. JESUS DIDNT MADE US ORTHODOX OR CATHOLIC HE JUST MADE christianity we all r one.
United we stand divided we fall. I request to Pope and Patriach and all brothers of orthodox and catholic family to unite together as early as possible because JESUS WANT TO SEE US UNITED HE UNITED US LETS NOT MAN SEPARATE
Amen, Kurealison, Halleluiaahh, BAREKMOR.
In the name of father, and of the son and of the holy spirit Amen
These comments give me such happiness, I as a Catholic hope that we can untie under the banner of the cross and embrace each other as children of Christ.
Somehow your comment filled me with joy and tears .... Greetings from Indian Catholic....
As an Orthodox Christian, I appreciate this video. A lot more fair and balanced than I was expecting. That being said, there are a few points, such as the filioque that were made to be more black and white than they are. The declaration was by SOME people in the Orthodox world, and is largely disagreed with by many.
Another thing missed, that I think deserves some limelight, is that Orthodox and Catholic simply have grown apart due to having 2 different ways of being. Faith is a lifestyle, a belief; a way of being. The Orthodox and Catholic have become two different ways of being because of Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi (if I'm spelling that correctly). In English from the Latin: The way you worship is the way you believe. Because we practice things so differently, we believe things that are very different, and because we believe things that are very different, we practice things very differently. While I appreciate Catholics, and I know very many wonderful ones, I cannot condone the abandonment of a lot of ancient, holy, and necessary practices and beliefs and the addition and innovation of others by their church.
I've heard this story a dozen times and am still trying to piece it together... well done Father
This is an interesting topic. Thanks for sharing Br Casey. As a convert to Catholicism from Islam four years ago, I never heard of an Orthodox church. I am having a difficult time understanding the whole Catholic-Orthodox issues. Is there a recommendation of book(s) where I could read, and try to understand the whole thing about the Great Schism? Anyways, thanks for making all these insightful videos! I have learned a lot from it.
Hi Adam, I think there are any number of great books out there. One of the ones that I found useful was "A Concise History of the Catholic Church" by Thomas Bokenkotter. Although there is only one short chapter on the actual Schism (not enough if that's all you're interested in) it offers a great overview of the history of the Church, giving context to the events. I haven't read any books specifically on the Schism, though, but mainly independent articles.
Welcome home, Adam! May Our Lady draw you ever closer to her Divine Son!
Adam Lee Rahmat just read about the lives of saints such as Basil the great and John Crysostom and others along with books about the schism from both the catholic and orthodox perspectives, you will soon understand why orthodoxy is the true faith.
Hi Adam, you can read the series of Church History by Everett Ferguson. It gives objective explanations about cultural and political context in church through the ages.
I would recommend " The Lives of the Pillars of Orthodoxy". This book describes exact detailed history events leading to the Schism of 1054.
My wife and I very much enjoy watching your videos. Thank you so much for making them!
You're welcome! Peace and good!
I really like the interjections of your personal expressions or non-verbal communications for it lightens the mood in listening to such serious heavy topics. You are awesomely intelligent and funny. Good for listening and learning to the max.
Thank you for educating us on this. You answered so many questions that I've had for years and I appreciate the unbiased presentation.
I'm an atheist and visited some orthodox churches and monasteries in Cyprus a month ago. They made a huge impression on me. I was raised protestant and, as I understand it, protestantism is very much a tradition of the mind while orthodoxy much more involves the body, behaviour and sensory experience. It seemed to me as if the places I visited "understood" me and I resonated with that. I now wonder if I would have left the church if I had been brought up in the orthodox tradition.
It´s never too late to come back home.
@@ToxicallyMasculinelol Hi, it was interesting to read your response.
I grew up in the Dutch Protestant church, which is at least 400 years old, so I suppose it falls under what you call the "older European traditions".
I wouldn't say church was an entirely rational thing, but tye centrepoint of the liturgy was definitely the sermon, which typically was based on exegesis. I just lost interest in church during my teen years and became an agnostic while at university. Now, at 52, I'm reconsidering it all in a sliw, but very radical fashion.
A big part if it is what I refer the paradigm issue, which is somewhat related to the echo chamber concept. Basically it means that I have learnt, over the past 30 odd years, to look at things from a skeptical mindset, but know that this mindset is just one among many. And yet, it colors everything I think and feel about. My question now is: how do I go from there to a different mindset, when I feel that my present mindset is failing me? All I can say is that it's not a matter of throwing away one and taking on another. It is not at all similar to changing clothes.
@@ToxicallyMasculinelol Hi, it was interesting again to read your thoughtful response. I recognize the different subjects you mentioned, though my thoughts on them have been different in places.
But to answer your question first: I'm trying to look at the possibility of God's existence from a believer's point of view, rather than an atheist/agnostic's point of view / paradigm.
What you say about materialism is basically what I would call the materialistic paradigm on which atheism and agnosticism are based. It makes sense in its own belief system, but it doesn't disprove other belief systems / paradigms.
Until recently, I was an atheist/agnostic, but I never believed that scientists had proven that God is unnecessary to create the universe. My thoughts about this were: the earliest event that scientists have found is the Big Bang. However, the mathematical equations that describe the Big Bang break down if you go further back in time. So basically no one knows what happened before the Big Bang or what caused the Big Bang. Hence I was agnostic about it.
I have never been convinced by philosophical proofs of God, like Aquinas' cosmological argument (first cause argument).
What happened to me recently is that, although I felt passionate about atheism / agnosticism before, I started feeling indifferent about it and after that I had a religious experience while on holiday in Cyprus. I'm currently in the process of reassessing my beliefs in light of this experience.
I had never heard of bishop Barron, but I'll check him out.
@@ToxicallyMasculinelol Hi. I think that you, like me, are willing to spend ages on looking for a a rational underpinning on what you believe. I think the pragmatism that you mentioned is interesting, I will give it a thought.
Here's my thought process since I had my religious experience. Tyey might be of use to you.
One thing I can say is that atheists don't have a good argument against the validity of religious experiences, as far as I know. I specifically looked for atheist vids on this subject. The two counter-arguments I found were that religious experiences are fake because they can be recreated by scientists in a lab and because every religion has them. My counter arguments against the first is an analogy: let's imagine that scientists can make you taste the flavour of vanilla without actual vanilla purely by putting some electrodes on your head. Does this prove that real vanilla doesn't exist. Of course it doesn't. In the same way, creating religious experiences artificially doesn't prove that religious experiences in general aren't real.
Next: religious experiences in many religions: the counter-argument is basically based on two assumptions: first that there is a religion that is the one, true faith and second that a religious experience is meant to point you towards that one true faith.
I'm personally not (yet) convinced that there is one, true faith. Maybe most faiths have at least some true elements.
The second is: if there is a God, does he use religious experiences to send people to the one true faith (assuming that there is one)? Not necessarily. Maybe religious experiences are road signs sending you towards the direction you need to go in right now, notvsigns that point towards the ultimate destination. Changing faiths can have big social and psychological repercussions. They can alienate you from your family or unbalance your life. Is it possible that God can ask people to grow while staying in their current religion, despite its flaws?
So, even is there is one, true religion, a religious experience may not point in tue shortest direction towards that religion.
So, after having refuted those two counterarguments, should you ignore religious experiences, as atheists recommend? I think it's obvious that you shouldn't, at least in general. Such a strong experience is an important event in your life. It would be like ignoring falling in love.
So, in your case, I would suggest, at least as a hypothesis, that the religious experiences you've had have pointed at Catholicism because God sees that as where you should be right now. Whether you get pointers in a different direction later on remains to be seen.
@@ToxicallyMasculinelol Also, can you describe what you experience when you have, as you call it "an experience of transcendent catharsis" when you contemplate the story of Christ and other stories in the Bible? I find it hard to imagine what that is.
You set a very high bar for what a 21st century ministry should aspire to. Talk about meeting people where they are, people demand information these days and consume media so frequently that these 10-15 minutes clips are perfect portions to draw people in. I appreciate your candor, humility, and the production value excellent. Keep up the good work!
Man you deserve millions of subscribers great video and content
Thank you Brother Casey, I really appreciate your wisdom, scholarship and kindness.
Thanks! Peace and good!
Breaking In The Habit, Happy Thanksgiving, 1Tim 1:5
I liked your presentation ; very consise; and it includes the essence of what happened, without wasting a lot of time in unnecessary details. Kudos !!!
Reading most comments made my eyes wet. We are all brethren united in Christ and we love each other.
The great Schism was an attack from the evil one on the gentle and loving heart of Lord Jesus. To have his church divided, causes him untold pain. May we come to love one another. As an Orthodox, I love and respect my Catholic brothers and sisters.
Well done Fr. God bless you. From an Augustinian priest!
Great video, I️ laughed when you said “oops”.
To be a faithful, practicing Catholic Christian, one must first say "oops". It is the beginning of understanding our wounded nature and our need for The Savior.
To be fair part of the animosity between christians and ortodox in the first crusade was fault of Emperor Alexios that did nothing to help the crusade.
same
This was beautifully done. I assumed that as a Franciscan being Catholic you would have been biased in your details, but it was honest and historical. Hopefully one day, Orthodox and Catholics can reunite in communion. Ideally, ALL churches can by keeping each other accountable and viewing all as brothers and sisters in Christ - cultural, and picky theological issues aside.
Thank you for posting, father Casey. I love your videos.
Well, the Orthodox Church prays for the reunification of our Churches. It will not be easy, it will not be fast, but because both Churches are making constant efforts towards it, I think that unification and establishment of communion between us is possible, desirable and a future reality.
The Eastern Orthodox Christians are the true followers of Jesus the Messiah. The santa claus ‘Christianity’ of the west has long been altered & changed to fit the agendas of western zion*st corruption. It began with the schism & most definitely isn’t over - and will not be till the end of days. I’m a Muslim, and I pray for the return of Hagia Sophia to the orthodox Christian world. 🙏🏼
Catholic here. Let's pray everyday for unity.
What a wonderful video.
You have done well what many “try” to do on all sides.
Hopefully we all can learn from this perspective and soften our own hearts.
-Your Orthodox brother in Christ.
“The Filioque is no longer a dividing issue,” those of us who are Byzantine Catholic have known this for centuries.
It is a dividing issue, the Filioque rejects orthodox triadology. ByzCaths cannot be orthodox because they accept Papism, not to mention that Byzantine Catholicism is a literally paradox within RCism because they have Orthodox saints (e.g. St Gregory Palamas and Sts Constantine and Helen) and follow Orthodox liturgy, they show the absence of the Holy Spirit within the RC Communion.
@@neame-bh3uq actually it isn’t, those of us who are orthodox but in union with the entirety of the church do not say the “who proceeds from the Father and the Son,” Byzantine Catholic Theology is completely orthodox without the messiness found in Orthodox circles (some groups denouncing others as not being orthodox though they are, and so forth).
@@neame-bh3uq “there’s no messiness within orthodoxy?” Really? Is that what you think? Then explain why those who claim to be orthodox are not accepted as orthodox by others and vice versa? Example the Russian Patriarchate isn’t in communion with the Ecumenical patriarchate. In fact, in 2018, the Synod of the ROC barred all members (clergy and laity) from partaking in any of the Mysteries administered in orthodox churches attached to the Ecumenical Patriarchate. The ROC doesn’t consider them (those who are attached to the Ecumenical Patriarchate) orthodox, and they don’t consider the ROC orthodox. The ROC doesn’t consider the autocephalous Ukrainian Orthodox church to be valid, whereas the Ecumenical Patriarchate does. Proof in point, a friend of mine (his dad was my priest for a time before I joined St. Peter the Aleut OCA parish here in Calgary) is a Ukrainian Orthodox priest who serves in the Patriarchal Court and has been given the title Grand Syncellus of the Great Church of Christ). Fr. Iakovos (Andrij) Krochak is the first non-Greek, first Ukrainian, and first Canadian to hold this honour.
Those of us who are Byzantine Catholic are orthodox, despite your claims.
@@ToxicallyMasculinelol Good golly gosh, what a presumption, “you don’t like popery because ethnic nationalism”. First of all, papism does not mean taking clergy as an authority, it is the practice of taking the Roman Bishop as an absolute authority over all other bishops with universal authority, as seen in the RCC, because taking clergy as an authority is an orthodox understanding of the role of clergy. Second of all, how dare you prescribe to me some strawman of being against the Papacy because of some ethnic nationalism, is this what Catholics think an Orthodox reason for rejecting the Papacy is? Third of all, I would have a problem with that, because it is contrary to the ecclesiastical tradition of the Church laid down by Christ and the Apostles and continued throughout history, but this will never happen inshallah
@@ToxicallyMasculinelol The Gospel of St Matthew doesn’t assign any of the Apostles to rule over them all in place of Christ, to do that would be to forgo:
1. The writings of the Church Fathers
2. The original Greek.
3. Church history.
4. The Vatican admitting the papacy was a ‘developed doctrine’ in the Chieti Document (This is contrary to Vatican I)
5. Traditional Biblical exgenesis
Thank you, that was genuinely both engaging and helpful!
May the two lungs of Christ’s church once again come to communion.
Good stuff! This is likely my favorite presentation of the topic.
Thanks for this, brother
Beautiful and unbiased. Truly appreciate this video.
Phenomenal Job Friar!
Very well done, Br. Casey👍🙏🏼
I have a CZcams account for about 15 years or so but for some reason, I never followed a page about the Catholic Church, which I´m a follower. Yesterday I saw a pop-up about the page "Breaking the Habit" and it´s awesome! Great job! :D
2054 is coming up pretty soon.
yeah
Matthew Tolentino Hopefully we may see a vast Improvement on Unity between the two great churches. The Synod In 2025 might be a blessing upon our relations hopefully.
Imagine Catholicism splits too
@@Ivyonblond Anything that doesn't have God's blessing will not last
Bruh what u religious folk planning in 2054... should I be worried as an Atheist
Thank you for your video, Br. Casey! It's interesting to note that many of the differences you brought up between the two sides are lived out in the Catholic Church today, that is in the eastern rites in total communion with Rome. For example, in the rite I was baptized in, the Maronite rite, (and many others) married priesthood is very present; in the Melkite Rite, leavened bread is used (symbolizing Christ being the leaven in the unleavened Passover bread of the Old Covenant); the Maronite fasting requirements are different from the Roman Rite; yet, all of these rites are in total communion with Rome. I think it's beautiful that we have such richness and variety of tradition and culture in our rites, and that is goes to show how close we are to uniting with our Orthodox brothers.
Thanks Br. Casey! I find this very educational!
Great video brother. Eastern Orthodox here, and I enjoy watching your videos. Regarding the Filioque, you're correct in emphasizing the issue of Papal Supremacy as a major driving force, but I feel that the Orthodox theological concerns surrounding the filioque are also substantial enough to stand on their own (such as questioning the doctrine of the eternal spiration of the Holy Spirit from the Father & Son, etc.)
That said, thank you for making a good beginner level video on this from the Catholic point of view. Even 5 years later I can see how this would be beneficial to many.
God bless you.
i like the explanation of icons. Icons are sacred images, a window into heaven. an image of a person, time, and place that it is more real than here and now. Whenever you are drawing a sacred image, pray and fast for the image is for God.
I got it from an orthodox video. :3
Please do something to talk about the first two great schisms we forget about: the split with the Alexandrians and the Antiochans. People do not know this but the Nestorian controversy has been resolved, and Nestor's name cleared, it being universally agreed now that he was misunderstood. Many of these who schismed from Rome and Constantinople back in the 400s, as far back as Chalcedon, are now back in full Communion with Rome, and of those who are not, mutual excommunications and anathemazations have been lifted. Their orders and sacraments are valid. You will find these are among the Eastern Catholic churches--separated since the 400s! Look into and investigate the Chaldeans, who are 100% in full Communion with Rome and are of the Nestorian line! It is amazing and miraculous.
thank you. a very good recap. as a protestant graduate student in theology, this really helped me get a better grasp on the split.
Lord have mercy! I hope and pray things get sorted, the way the world is headed we will need each other!
Interesting and very informative video. How about doing another one looking at the split that saw the formation of what are now the Lutheran and Anglican Churches and the Catholic Churches attitude towards them.
Hopefully the Catholic, Orthodox and Coptic churches become one again someday
Don't know the catholics were pretty bad, at least the muslim only taxed us and didn't forbid us to build churches.
Romanian Székely lol they quite literally did! Why lie dhimmi?
Thank you Father for your insightful videos..
Dude, I seriously love these videos!!!
Then one of the questions will be why some eastern churches decided to either stay in communion or came back to be in communion with rome.
Good video that even an Orthodox Christian can enjoy and upvote! Greetings from Greece!
As an Orthodox Christian, this was great! When I saw this was a Catholic series I was worried this would be one sided and biased towards the Catholic perspective but it wasn’t at all, and I think both Orthodox and Catholics could completely agree with everything in this video. Fantastic job explaining the whole situation! May the Body of Christ become one again
Thank you for the great vids
Im a former Catholic who converted to Orthodoxy. While I wish we could reach communion with the West, The Pope would have to renounce Papal Infallibility and relagate himself to First Among Equals instead of Universal Head.
@Charbel Saade 1.pornocracy can reapear.
2.he has the "right" to change the church tradition how he wish if he doesn't, and look at point 1 if you don't see the problem.
One day we all be one! God bless! ❤️❤️❤️
There is so much beauty in the the eastern church as well. One of the things I find so beautiful in it, is the symbolism of how you guys do confession compared to the way we do it in the western church. I pray that we can reach a full understanding and reunite as the one true church in my lifetime
Great and very useful video. Thank you!
Wouldn't it be cool if the Orthodox and Catholic churches came back together in 2054?
I wish reunification happens before 2054.❤️
Catholics burnt people with other confessions on crosses.
Well done. Thank you very much.
Great video on the "Great Schism". Thank you.
Just prior to the 4th crusade, there occurred in Constantinople the “Massacre of the Latins”. Some of the Crusaders were survivors of those atrocities committed by the Byzantines. Next to that, the skirmish between the Teutonic Knights and Novgorod was a minor glitch (those two actually did more trading and commerce than fighting anyway, since the other lands of Russia were under the Mongol domination.)
What about polish(on ukrainians), hungarians(on romanians) ans croats(on serbs)?
@@alexandrub8786 what about Ukrainian catholics and Ukrinian catholic converts from Orthodoxy and western Ukrainian atheists their mass kilings and masacres in 1941-1945 on 500 000 - 600 000 people especialy Jews,Gypsies as well as Russians,Russian Ukrainian and Rusian Belarusian Orthodoxes and comunists and also on over 100 000 Poles from Volhynia and eastern Galizia or Austrian missleding and starving off Ruthenian catholics and also mishandling of some Poles in southern-central Galizia in xix century dear Romanian
Damn, this unbiased illustration of Great Schism made me subscribe on this channel lmao.
Catholic here#
Ah, brother (can lay people call a friar brother? am i just translating "fra" from Italian) you would have made my uni history teachers very proud. Excellently structured and balanced argumentation, well sourced, well presented. Good job! Pace e bene.
A great look at the subject that gets over simplified. One note, one of the headlines shown mentions the Oriental Orthodox, whose schism dates back to 451 due to the Council of Chalcedon, not the Great Schism.
In the early church, there were three "apostolic sees" -- Rome, Alexandria, and Antioch. The Council of Chalcedon approved five patriarchs in 451. These were the apostolic sees plus Constantinople and Jerusalem. The key issue dividing East and West has always been papal supremacy, which the popes started claiming in the 750s.
It's funny how we go at each others throats for Worshipping the same God in a Different way.
BLASPHEMY
This video is very informative thank you Fr. Casy …. I wish if could have made a video on oriental orthodoxy about the churches (Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, the Syriac Orthodox Church of Antioch, the Armenian Apostolic Church, the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church, the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, and the Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church.) in addition to eastern orthodoxy and describe the differences with Catholicism and why these churches do not accept the council of Chalcedon and why the catholic church does in a fair and informative manner.
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Ugh. Such a vital historical timeline. Thanks for helping with my studies.
Whats this? An unbiased video? Shocking!
Hurry up and watch before Google takes it down.
This is a wonderfully balanced and fair explanation. Thank you!
Great vid. I hope that similar dialogues take place with other denominations and, not unimportantly, other faiths. That can at least prevent arguments due to misunderstandings.
Great job, very interesting video. God bless you.
Reunification would be very simple: we convene a council and set the bishops up in some bed bug- infested motel in some God- forsaken place and tell them you will stay here until you get it all worked out. I guarantee in less than a week we will be one church again.
HAHAHHAHAHA
The Swiss Guard would rescue them before they reach an agreement
Wow that's a genius idea
@@katarzynakabacinska7070 Thanks; unfortunately nobody listens to me.
You give a very simple explanation that I personally feel should have some information such as the Oriental Schsim of 451 A.D., and the causes of that. Also, you are correct in that the Eastern Schism was political in nature. The Church in Constantinople wanted the authority of the Patriarch of Rome.
The one thing that bothers me about your video, is that you make it seem like the Five Patriarchs used to have equal authority and that the Roman Patriarch all of a sudden felt that he should have authority over the whole Church. This would be going along the lines of what many Orthodox Christians that i have spoke to; that is, they believe the Roman Patriarch overstepped his authority. Which is not true. Thus the reason in 381, the Council of Constantinople declared that: "The Bishop of Constantinople shall have the primacy of honour after the Bishop of Rome, because it is New Rome" (can. iii). Pope Damasus and Pope Gregory the Great refused to confirm this canon. Constantinople and Jerusalem were not officially recognized to hold the Patriarchate until the fifth century.
In 1024, Pope John XIX received an embassy sent by the Emperor Basil and the Patriarch Eustathius. The aim was to obtain from the Pope a declaration that “the Church in Constantinople should be styled universal in its sphere, just as the Church of Rome was in the universe”. The question at issue was to obtain from the Pope autocephalia, that is the complete autonomy of the Greek Church, over which he would cease to exercise his jurisdiction. Suffice to say, Pope John XIX received a nasty backlash from western Catholics both Layman and Clergy as this would destroy the Unity of the Church.
For more than a century, ever since the reign of Leo VI, the Emperors and the Patriarchs met with nothing but friendliness at Rome. Thanks to their alliances with the all-powerful members of the Roman nobility, they obtained nearly all that they wished from the weak Popes, who only held office at the bidding of an Alberic or a Crescentius. It was in 1024, therefore, that the Court of Constantinople encountered an unexpected resistance, that of the party of ecclesiastical reform, finding a center in Cluny, whose doctrines were then beginning to spread over the entire West. These reformers, realizing more clearly than John XIX the true interests of the Church, defended the Pope against himself by forcing him to resist the Byzantine claims. This was only a preliminary skirmish between the spirit of the Western Reform and the Patriarchate of Constantinople, but it was significant and forecasted the stubborn disputes which followed soon after. (Information from Cambridge Medieval History IV Chapter 9)
In 1829 part of the Greek orthodox Church reunited with the Catholic Church under the Greek Uniat Churches.
this is immensely important information every Roman and Greek Christians should know i shed a tear for the break and another for P Francis wants complete union please pray for this to be real soon the world my depend on it.....bring peace to the Ukrain war..Amen
Thank you
this is great..
Lets us never forget, we are all Christians! God is unity, love, and peace. Satan is division, hatred, and war. Let us ally each other against division, against hatred for we are much more similar than we claim to be. Let there be light, let there be unity. Amen!
these videos are my new favorites
This is so honest, I love this!
I'll pray for unite once again ❤️❤️
As a person who left Eastern Orthodox Church for the Catholic Church, I think you're too soft on EOC. These churches have no unity, and they're completely dependent on secular authorities - the Russian Orthodox Church has been under fully secular control since 1721. So before we're talking about reunification, I think we should look at what are we going to reunify with.
What a great job thank you very much have a blessed day
Well done!