Harold Bloom interview on Harry Potter, the Internet and more (2000)

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  • Harold Bloom talks about his latest book, "How to Read and Why," popular fiction, Harry Potter, the idea of individual genius and the trouble with the internet.
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  • @ManufacturingIntellect
    @ManufacturingIntellect  Před 6 lety +24

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    • @mathiasuriel6002
      @mathiasuriel6002 Před 3 lety

      @Canaan Adriel Definitely, I have been using kaldroStream for years myself =)

  • @thornecassidy9019
    @thornecassidy9019 Před 4 lety +647

    For the many who claim that Bloom trashes the "great gray ocean of the internet" while snickering that they found this video on the internet, please go back and watch. He didn't trash it. He bemoaned an undisciplined wandering through its great stretches of emptiness. He proposed that one needs standards of beauty and logic to approach new things profitably, and to identify worthwhile endeavors for our limited time.

    • @0live0wire0
      @0live0wire0 Před 4 lety +25

      The number of views this incredible interview has supports his position. 99% of people use the internet solely to entertain themselves. Quality educational content is scarce and is swept away because of the algorithm the internet uses - here popular taste is king.

    • @nickschmitt8594
      @nickschmitt8594 Před 4 lety +17

      My undisciplined wandering has brought me nothing but despair.

    • @qstunrr
      @qstunrr Před 4 lety +2

      Nick Schmitt And by now I hope we all know that despair is evil.

    • @g.i.clamvirus2058
      @g.i.clamvirus2058 Před 4 lety +7

      Yet without despair, how do we rediscover Love and Life and Ideas in even fuller glory?

    • @SuperKaBlooey
      @SuperKaBlooey Před 3 lety +5

      Well said.

  • @joanvega2177
    @joanvega2177 Před 2 lety +309

    "Are millions and millions of people wrong?"
    "I'm afraid so."
    Nothing but respect for this man. May he rest in peace.

    • @serban8298
      @serban8298 Před 2 lety +18

      He was a great mind, but he was wrong about this

    • @innociduousnepheliad8140
      @innociduousnepheliad8140 Před 2 lety +40

      ​@@serban8298 No, he wasn't. Harry Potter is a wonderful book, and it makes sense for people to have it as their favourite; however, it does not, in any way, possess the traits of a masterpiece that can let itself be known by the locution of "the acme of English literature". It's a little better than mediocre but certainly not even comparable to high literature.

    • @advancedraymondology2914
      @advancedraymondology2914 Před 2 lety +11

      @@innociduousnepheliad8140 He basically said people were reading Potter for "fashion" rather than actually enjoying the books. So, yes, he was wrong. Whether they are great literature or not isn't the issue. He implied, or pretty much came right out and said, they didn't even deserve their success as populist, commercial books. He said they would be forgotten five or ten years down the road. It's not debatable: he was wrong. And so are you, for not understanding what people are saying he was wrong about.

    • @jzocchio
      @jzocchio Před 2 lety +2

      @@advancedraymondology2914 is the amount of people reading the Harry Potter franchise today comparable to the amount of people that read it when it was being released?

    • @serban8298
      @serban8298 Před 2 lety +11

      @@jzocchio I could ask you the same about any classic!The answer is the same:NO!Classics are now mostly read by people in academic circles(including me ).I'm not trying to be a hypster and I'm not trying to say Harry Potter is better than classics(though it is better than some of them).It's just that people aren't interested in literature anymore!And I said that Bloom is dead wrong because Harry Potter IS worthy of its fans and is actually a masterpiece in the storytelling sense!They believe that all literature should be overly complicated and deeply philosophical to be good, but that's just a narrow conception!If a book has a good story, it is good literature!

  • @UncleClauClau
    @UncleClauClau Před 4 lety +110

    Rest in peace, my darling.

  • @andrewkulubi9919
    @andrewkulubi9919 Před 4 lety +122

    Most grammatically correct comment section i have ever seen.

    • @michaelwu7678
      @michaelwu7678 Před 4 lety +8

      Ironic

    • @sanketx143
      @sanketx143 Před 3 lety +3

      Yours too, @@michaelwu7678.

    • @FinnyC
      @FinnyC Před 3 lety +1

      @stephen noonan Prisicely

    • @vrfvfdcdvgtre2369
      @vrfvfdcdvgtre2369 Před 2 lety

      Rose interrupts the quote of turning 70. Rude. Can anyone finish it?

    • @Laocoon283
      @Laocoon283 Před rokem

      They all scared to make a mistake and get ripped to pieces lmao.

  • @Falstaff0809
    @Falstaff0809 Před 6 lety +330

    I recently quit Facebook and discovered Bloom. Getting my head out of the Net and back to books makes me agree with so much Bloom has to say.

    • @b_to_the_b
      @b_to_the_b Před 4 lety +9

      He is a pretentious asshole and so will you be

    • @willmercury
      @willmercury Před 4 lety +39

      @@b_to_the_b Such reactive hostility, externalized blithely without real risk; did you get that from a book, or from the Internet?

    • @marcoalaridwhite1315
      @marcoalaridwhite1315 Před 4 lety +14

      I'm glad that you could let a CZcams comment section know how much better you're doing without the internet.

    • @Chris-eo1bp
      @Chris-eo1bp Před 4 lety

      @@b_to_the_b What about the word pretentious.

    • @marshaharvey5921
      @marshaharvey5921 Před 3 lety +1

      you are in for quite a treat.

  • @alexandraw.4012
    @alexandraw.4012 Před rokem +19

    "We read in the shadow of mortality". How bittersweet.

  • @martinezgerard
    @martinezgerard Před 3 lety +84

    He still teaches me through these videos. RIP.

    • @garymelnyk7910
      @garymelnyk7910 Před rokem +2

      How it is for me too Gerard! RIP Like Dylan, like yourself and like myself he was “looking for dignity”!

  • @efleishermedia
    @efleishermedia Před 3 lety +70

    Love Bloom more every time I hear him speak. He was prophetic in ways that are only really materializing now.
    And he gave us Camille Paglia.
    Pure gratitude for this man.

    • @tellemstevedave5559
      @tellemstevedave5559 Před 2 lety +1

      Maybe on the internet but definitely not Harry Potter.

    • @yohei72
      @yohei72 Před 11 měsíci

      Ha! He “gave” us Paglia? That makes sense. An even more tiresome, self-aggrandizing blowhard than he was.

  • @Charlie-rh8od
    @Charlie-rh8od Před 3 lety +46

    It’s incredible that we even lived at the same time as this great mind. Truly an unsung hero of consciousness, and a powerful force for good in the world.

  • @mbombaby
    @mbombaby Před rokem +15

    "I'm afraid so." Love it. I recently read "Wind in the Willows." Yes...children should read it and would love it. As did I at 62 years old.

  • @Vesnicie
    @Vesnicie Před 4 lety +135

    Dear Professor Bloom, thank you so much for all you contributed and for being one of the last to insist on true greatness in literature and in life, both public and private.

    • @kelvindatson1202
      @kelvindatson1202 Před 2 lety +5

      Mr bloom you're one of the most critical critic ever walk this earth. Thank you for inspiring me to not giving up on myself and thanks for helping me to see reading for what it really his. I don't know where your soul his going but I hope we meet on that beautiful shore, when the roll is called up yonder.

  • @davidculwell755
    @davidculwell755 Před 3 lety +76

    Prescient Harold Bloom. "If as a nation we stop thinking well, someday we will yet cease to be a democracy."

    • @davida.rosales6025
      @davida.rosales6025 Před 2 lety +5

      But, that was true 30 years ago already! In fact, I do not think the United States has ever been a thinking country!

    • @damiangriffiths7801
      @damiangriffiths7801 Před rokem

      The Russians have been reading their own literature pretty well for a long time, but that doesn't appear to have helped them become a democracy

    • @lonelycubicle
      @lonelycubicle Před rokem

      Feels like we are going in that direction

  • @End_Zionism
    @End_Zionism Před rokem +43

    I agree with Bloom for the most part, but reading Harry Potter as a child did get me into reading so that I would then go on to read all the classics he discussed. I read Charlotte’s Web, Through the Looking Glass, Lord of the Rings, etc. as a child after Harry Potter. Then when I got older I read Dante, Moby Dick, and the Odyssey.

    • @serban8298
      @serban8298 Před rokem +2

      Harry Potter was the first book series I read in a serious manner.After becoming accustomed to reading thick books as an early teen(fantasy and horror), I got into classics around a year and a half later as I was at a philology profile.Now I'm in my first year of college as a Letters student.Basically, I'm on my way to develop myself as a literary scholar.So yes, Harry Potter may not be a deep or cathartic work but it's fine as an entertainment, just like fantasy books in general.It doesn't mean you can't enjoy classics too.Actually, I have 2 literature teachers in college who read fantasy and one of them actually teaches it in an optional course!

    • @londongael414
      @londongael414 Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@serban8298 While I agree with what you say, I think Harry Potter is a bit more than entertainment - as least as much as any of the classic children's books mentioned. There are moral problems, there is complexity, there is a range of emotional demand, there is an avoidance of obvious resolutions. And the theme, unusually for a children's book, is death. There are cliched elements, but these are superficial and not important. And the books seem to be holding up, nearly thirty years after the first one came out. So, much as I love Harold Bloom, he was wrong about this one.

    • @ryanand154
      @ryanand154 Před 2 měsíci

      Harry Potter taught an entire generation how to be readers.

    • @ryanand154
      @ryanand154 Před 2 měsíci

      That’s how readers of novels want it.

    • @ryanand154
      @ryanand154 Před 2 měsíci

      The commercial demand for magical thinking is rife.

  • @brandonqueen2608
    @brandonqueen2608 Před 4 lety +58

    One of the few people with whom it's possible to both vehemently disagree with & admire & respect at the same time. A sign of true intelligence.

  • @jimgordon6629
    @jimgordon6629 Před rokem +11

    I wonder if anyone has ever grasped the whole of world literature as securely as Professor Bloom. Hearing him recite those poems was a rare pleasure. I feel that Charlie Rose did an excellent job and helped Dr. Bloom fulfill his mission of better reaching the general public. Unfortunately, we are even further down the road to perdition than we were when the video was made.

  • @adyshih
    @adyshih Před 2 lety +9

    Ironically, it is the internet that I got to know Harold Bloom much better and I started to acquire his books when I tried to know more about Shakespeare, i'm so grateful to watch these interviews about him and bring me much closer to his work and beautiful mind...

  • @DermochelysCoriacea
    @DermochelysCoriacea Před 4 lety +9

    This is so enjoyable, edifying and funny. Love watching these two interact.

  • @MrUndersolo
    @MrUndersolo Před 4 lety +97

    Used his work to finish my master’s thesis.
    Man, I owe him; we all do.
    -R.I.P., Professor

    • @tobiolopainto
      @tobiolopainto Před 4 lety +2

      I all, you all, he/she/it/one alls, we all, you all they all. All: the American verb.

    • @dokidoki719
      @dokidoki719 Před 4 lety

      Tobias Mostel WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

    • @tobiolopainto
      @tobiolopainto Před 4 lety +2

      @@dokidoki719 K August writes "...we all..." An American verb: To All. All of us do, would be the way to write it without 'all' being a verb.

    • @MrUndersolo
      @MrUndersolo Před 4 lety +7

      Tobias Mostel Fair point. But I am not an American, and I did not expect anyone to be so uptight about language on YT, even when discussing Dr. Bloom.
      Ain’t dat the truths...!

    • @johannagel4520
      @johannagel4520 Před rokem +1

      ​@@tobiolopainto It's not a verb, it's an emphasising pronoun, and it's perfectly grammatical.

  • @bradleynichols4909
    @bradleynichols4909 Před 4 lety +19

    I hope Hart Crane was on his spirit when he left us. Bless this good man.

  • @brianlooksaround6125
    @brianlooksaround6125 Před rokem +8

    Thank God for the sanity of this man and for his courage to speak the truth.

  • @irisk.1561
    @irisk.1561 Před 2 lety +9

    about harry potter: "In five or six years these will be period pieces also. they will be of interest to sociologists. the people who read them will not be able to remember what they read."
    I'm not a harry potter fan but that didn't age well.

    • @allen5455
      @allen5455 Před 2 lety +1

      Who remembers much, if anything, of Shakespeare?

    • @serban8298
      @serban8298 Před 2 lety +3

      @@allen5455 I remember a lot of stuff from Harry Potter and Shakespeare as well!

  • @mohitmor6764
    @mohitmor6764 Před 2 lety +43

    I went through school and 3 years of college without proper understanding what reading means. It's very common here in India everyone in school tells you what to read but never do they explain the system which must first be learned in order to understand what you read. I found a book few months back on this subject by Mortimer Adler and it really helped me to become better person. Hope the same for you guys.

    • @abdulrahmanali9407
      @abdulrahmanali9407 Před rokem

      Yes, it is true. I read it two years ago. This book is an amazing discovery

    • @mikethelma
      @mikethelma Před rokem +4

      Also, they fail to teach almost ANY skill necessary to learn. They demand that you have a poem memorized for your homework assignment ... but in all my years of school NO ONE EVER explained HOW to memorize. Incredible.

  • @appidydafoo
    @appidydafoo Před rokem +5

    Bless your heart Harold Bloom, you saved my brain from the gutter

  • @thefunisdead1574
    @thefunisdead1574 Před 4 lety +12

    RIP Mr.Bloom. You were a genius at articulating genius.

  • @charlesedwardandrewlincoln8181

    Returning to this wonderful video once again. From summer of 2020 when I first found it to now.

  • @Tonytony95461
    @Tonytony95461 Před 4 lety +17

    Love the table metaphor!

  • @charlesedwardandrewlincoln8181

    Love these interviews so much!

  • @ponceperales1041
    @ponceperales1041 Před 4 lety +23

    29:30 HB recommends Blood Meridian (1985) by Cormac McCarthy “it seems to me the authentic American apocalyptic novel, more relevant now than when it was written” [ there are several articles on the www about this book].

    • @casanovafrankenstein5228
      @casanovafrankenstein5228 Před 3 lety +1

      Great book.

    • @efleishermedia
      @efleishermedia Před 3 lety +3

      Hesitant to say it is my "favorite" book because theres something so archetypal and terrifying about it that goes beyond the individual.
      It's a terror of the species hurtling through time.
      "...in him brews already a taste for mindless violence..."
      And, most prescient, "a creature that can do anything. Make a machine. A machine to make the machine. Evil to run itself a thousand years, unattended."
      There were echoes of Paradise Lost, Moby Dick...
      It is the hellscape of the West. And it's gorgeous in the way that Kubrick's The Shining was.
      Stephen King said that Kubrick set out to "make a movie that hurts people", and that's it's perfection.
      I've read Blood Meridian ten times at least, and I'll read it a hundred more.

  • @ponceperales1041
    @ponceperales1041 Před 4 lety +46

    Harold Bloom RIP (July 11, 1930 - October 14, 2019)
    22:45 Charlie Rose: - What poem do you think that would be in your heart when you breathe your last breath?
    - Harold Bloom: “INTO MY HEART AN AIR THAT KILLS/ From yon far country blows:/ What are those blue remembered hills,/ What farms, what spires are those?/ That is the land of lost content,/ I see it shining plain,/ The happy highways where I went/ And cannot go again.”
    A.E. Housman

    • @newyardleysinclair9960
      @newyardleysinclair9960 Před 2 lety

      Poetry is so pretentious. It's completely unnecessary. If there were no poetry, nobody, other than poets and publishers, would even care

    • @eS-ql7vm
      @eS-ql7vm Před rokem +13

      @@newyardleysinclair9960 I hope you live a long and good enough life to regret this someday

    • @ruizheli1974
      @ruizheli1974 Před rokem +9

      @@newyardleysinclair9960 Judging from the second sentence of your reply, apart from poetry, you also find logic unnecessary.

    • @mikethelma
      @mikethelma Před rokem +1

      @@ruizheli1974 Sometimes I find such blinding ignorance and arrogance almost refreshing! LOL ;-) It is astounding that the loudest critics are often those who understand the least. I wonder if it is a distinctly American thing to go around finding truly great people to tear down.

    • @ruizheli1974
      @ruizheli1974 Před rokem

      @@mikethelma Not really. You can find Chinese people posting things 5 levels dumber than this one. It's just you can't read it because of the language barrier.

  • @BLAISEDAHL96
    @BLAISEDAHL96 Před 4 měsíci

    What a fruitful discussion. I came across a short clip (on instagram of all places) of Harold Bloom during his interview with Charlie in 94. Incredibly thought provoking.

  • @SehnsuchtYT
    @SehnsuchtYT Před rokem +16

    I think Bloom is generally correct in some regards on Harry Potter, but lets his prejudice cloud his judgement. For example, in that article he makes a false claim on how many time "stretched their legs" is used. He claims dozens, but I think it was only used once. Likewise, he claims it is slop - which is a fair if mean-spirited assessment of early Harry Potter. But as the series progressed, it became increasingly complex in themes and Rowling became a better (but still flawed and vindictive) writer.
    Ultimately, it is still here, despite his prediction. Compare it to Twilight - another huge phenomenon amongst adolescents - which has been largely dropped now.
    It's not a masterpiece, but I think he should have been more clear-headed in reviewing it.

    • @JBreedloaf
      @JBreedloaf Před 27 dny +1

      I think he was spot on about the quality of Harry Potter though. It’s of the middling, grey, acceptable quality when compared to other literature including other children’s books. It’s like how Friends and The Office are the most watched tv shows but that doesn’t make them the best or highest quality. Nothing in the later books elevate it beyond what the earlier books are and the techniques Rowling used to shove meaning into the later books are pretty ham fisted (such as the deus ex machina or the deathly hallows, or Harry’s resurrection scene). It’s not Rowlings fault that the works are so popular but it doesn’t change that Harry Potter is well loved schlock. It’s cheap genre fiction that does nothing to nor does it contain any elements that elevate it beyond being something a lot of kids got into (like Pokemon.)

  • @kamalpreetsingh1686
    @kamalpreetsingh1686 Před 4 lety +1

    Best discussion..... thanks for uploading.....

  • @lightwishatnight
    @lightwishatnight Před 5 lety +85

    Wow, what a controversial, interesting and necessary dissection of today's literature. Worth talking about. Thank you.

    • @serban8298
      @serban8298 Před 2 lety

      Stupid and unnecessary**!

    • @randywhite3947
      @randywhite3947 Před 2 lety

      @@serban8298 why?

    • @serban8298
      @serban8298 Před 2 lety +1

      @@randywhite3947 Because this dude clearly didn't know what he was talking about when he was criticising Harry Potter and Stephen King books!The man was a great mind, but in the same mind, an elitist snob!

  • @BLAISEDAHL96
    @BLAISEDAHL96 Před 4 měsíci

    A gripping conversation, I’m listening to the video for a second time.

  • @pendorran
    @pendorran Před 4 lety +14

    I found a copy of this book by accident, in one of those Little Lending Libraries. It's excellent and stimulating, even though I don't share his high regard for certain of the authors and texts he discusses. The book opens the mind in the best possible way, and reminds you of some of the things that are actually important.

    • @WhiteChocolate74
      @WhiteChocolate74 Před rokem

      I found Shakespeare: The Invention of the Human in a lending library

  • @theresahemminger1587
    @theresahemminger1587 Před rokem +9

    I’ve read Moby Dick 5 times, twice out loud. I was over the moon about War and Peace and I also greatly enjoyed the Harry Potter books-not in the same way; but, still, they were great fun and it was, perhaps, the first time I was part of a social movement that was shared with teenagers. As for great literature, I was appalled by Cervantes when I tried to read him in my early 20’s, I quit in disgust when
    Sancho Panza is forced to stand unmoving by Quixote’s horse and gives in to the need to defecate and it slides down his leg. I managed in my less sensitive old age mostly because I really liked the translator, Edith Grossman. Pantagruel flooding villages with his urine put me off Rabelais forever; but, I have nothing but good to say about Balzac. For modern literature, I don’t think I’ve ever read a Booker Prize winner I didn’t like. I’ve read most of the Nobel laureates and I have currently fallen in love with Jose Saramago, the Portuguese Nobelist. I also read Science Fiction and mystery stories. I’ve been known to read comic books. To me, literature opens and broadens ones perspective of the world and forms the sense of belonging to a world larger than your own tribe. And the individual is as large as the word ‘we’ is inclusive. You two sound more elitist than literary to me and I usually love literary criticism.

  • @spb7883
    @spb7883 Před 4 lety +18

    I only know of Bloom by reputation. I haven't read a thing he wrote, and recognize that as a consequence I may qualify as one of those he bemoaned as being (not his words) a slave to the screen (be it a television screen, a film screen, or the one connected computer on which I type this).
    I long ago realized that sounds - music - were far more interesting to me than the written word. But I will say this: regardless of what you think about Bloom's allegiance to canon or his opinion of academia's decline, this was a man who (to my knowledge, at least) came up from a working class background through collegiate ranks and became a significant scholar. With college prices and the rise of a new bourgeois, it doesn't feel like college - especially the humanities - has a place for working people with a genuine interest in a subject. Today's critics aren't made, they're born. They're born to careerist bourgeois parents who expect little Tucker or Kirstin to be the first in everything, who make sure the silver spoons in their mouths are perpetually Sterling.
    Most working people in the U.S. are not interested in the arts (including literature) because they perceive these as upper class artifacts. It seems Bloom was able to see through that. I salute him for it.

    • @patrickobrien8851
      @patrickobrien8851 Před 4 lety +6

      When you say "working people" you must mean "working-class people", since most people in the country work, whatever their class. And I don't agree with you. The culture in general has little interest in the arts, no matter what the educational background. Speak with a lawyer today, or a doctor, or a professor, and chances are they have not read many of the classics, in any language. Philosophy will not interest them, painting or classical music often will not be of interest. And listen to the language of their discourse, and to the structure and complexity of their discourse - oftentimes it is abysmal.
      Yes, educational values and goals have changed, and profit - apparently - decides more than it should, as in, where is the real "public" in public education. But the final responsibility lies with the individual. There are enough tools today (despite Bloom's dismissal of the internet) that one can use to become well educated, perhaps more tools than we have had in the past. The fact that the common patois of language usage is low is really an opportunity for young people to turn the tables and become expressive and eloquent again.
      Is Bloom a snob? Yes. Is his canon ridiculously narrow in its purview? Yes. Is there value in what he says? Certainly. We need professors like Bloom, and we need those who will - and can - argue eloquently and substantively with him so that the net result is a more enlightened set of students, listeners, and readers. After that, as I said, it is up to the individual to further his or her own knowledge and skills in the arts.

    • @spb7883
      @spb7883 Před 4 lety +3

      You didn’t understand what I was trying to say. Perhaps I should be more direct. I come from a working class background. My parents didn’t save for college because they didn’t expect anyone in my family to go. I went to college and then graduate school because I had a genuine interest in the subjects I pursued. But at both levels, I couldn’t believe the lack of education among my fellow students. So few had read/listened to/seen or even heard of books/music/film/paintings that I had sought out ON MY OWN years earlier.
      What I was trying to say about Bloom is that he didn’t let his working class background get in his way, either.
      So it sound to me like you and I are together on this.

    • @patrickobrien8851
      @patrickobrien8851 Před 4 lety

      @@spb7883: Right. Being the first to college from a given family is a big deal, and makes it more likely that other family members will follow - so kudos to you for doing that. Good role models are a big part of why some areas have a tradition of education, and some areas do not. Learning for its own sake, as well as for the benefits of supposedly better employment, are reasons enough to extend learning after high school. We need to foster this more in our culture.

    • @spb7883
      @spb7883 Před 4 lety +1

      Monsieur Tarzan Fortunately, I don’t. But perhaps you didn’t pick up on my speaking sarcastically when I wrote that. They are “born” not in the sense we usually think (i.e., having natural talent). Rather, it’s their advantage and social/financial class that “births” them into a world wherein this is EXPECTED of them. Nobody expects the child of a garment worker to become a scholar. THAT was my point.

    • @spb7883
      @spb7883 Před 4 lety

      Patrick O'Brien I agree. We don’t, of course. Part of that - a large part - is a consequence of popular culture and its affect. But part of it is also due to class snobbery.

  • @Draxtor
    @Draxtor Před rokem

    Harold Bloom is amazing and I completely forgot that he dissed Harry Potter!!! Thank you 🙏

  • @idklol4197
    @idklol4197 Před rokem +6

    harold is proven wrong by the tens of millions of people that still love harry potter twenty years on. It has not been forgotten as he proclaimed it would be

    • @Abhishek-fe3zs
      @Abhishek-fe3zs Před rokem +2

      It's the same generation that grew up with it lmao, nobody will remember it in 50 years

    • @faff6097
      @faff6097 Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@Abhishek-fe3zs that's actually not true at all

    • @user-3282
      @user-3282 Před měsícem

      Nope. Bloom is right.

  • @hogsbelly63
    @hogsbelly63 Před 6 lety +1

    Spot on. Thank you

  • @dave-oh3549
    @dave-oh3549 Před 5 lety +3

    "Tyranny of the visual". Beautiful!

  • @eduardosturla
    @eduardosturla Před 3 lety +16

    Harold Bloom in the year 2000 was neck deep in the culture wars. His comparison of bad literature and art with a badly made table is worth gold. A sober voice for these confusing times.

    • @ctrl_altesc
      @ctrl_altesc Před rokem +1

      I would what he would think about the current cultural wars that are even more ruthless than when he was still giving talks and writing

  • @skiphoffenflaven8004
    @skiphoffenflaven8004 Před 4 lety +2

    The advocacy here is still much needed as I find our current students' lack of long-lasting substance to be that like a vacuum in the midst of a torrent of possibility.

  • @thereversealmightystudios8978

    Found out about him just yesterday. I know...What rock have I been living under!? But his writings have got me hooked. What a gem!

  •  Před 4 lety +2

    He is so PROFOUNDLY human!

  • @thegirlwholeftthefridgeopen

    Bloom might be a little weird but there is truth when he mentions the dumbing down of education. Just recently graduated, I felt that I learned from my own selfmade curriculum than the classes you pay a lot for. College has turned more into a fast food: get in and get out quick and between our winter and summer breaks we forget everything. There is more to discuss and would like to chat with anyone about their educational experience and how they percieve what os currently going on in American education

    • @indialavoyce95
      @indialavoyce95 Před 4 lety +2

      Nikolai Lipnicky I agree

    • @ericsierra-franco7802
      @ericsierra-franco7802 Před 2 lety +1

      There is a lot of truth in what Bloom is saying, regardless of how one feels about the man.

  • @joachimjustinmorgan4851
    @joachimjustinmorgan4851 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I taught 5th grade for a year. 1 hour per day. We spent about 30 minutes of that time every day just reading the classics (age 8-12 classics. We typically used an audio book and read along. Before the reading I spent 5 minutes on grammar, and 5 minutes on vocabulary they would see in that days readings. Then we spent about 15 minutes on reviewing and interpreting the information we read. After each book there was a couple classes dedicated to writing papers. There was separate 30 minute 3 x/week class dedicated to spelling and writing as well. I was fun for me and the kids, and I felt just reading a lot of classical books was really helpful.

  • @Unconcerned_Orange
    @Unconcerned_Orange Před 6 lety +14

    I'm here because i have a literary theory exam to pass. But I find Bloom quite interesting

  • @SongvilayFilms
    @SongvilayFilms Před 4 lety +2

    Wow this man is amazing

  • @dcdc139
    @dcdc139 Před 2 lety +27

    I have to disagree w/ Mr Bloom about Harry Potter and its merits as children's literature. I read them as a 12 year old, around the time this interview was taped. Although I have no desire to revisit them today, they opened for me the doors of the wider world of literature, especially as a kid growing up in a rural area in the middle of nowhere in a home where culture wasn't at the forefront of our dinner conversations.

    • @bharatrai3978
      @bharatrai3978 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Okay for a 12 years old lad. But for 15+ lads, it is absolute rubbish.

    • @JBreedloaf
      @JBreedloaf Před 27 dny

      While it may have opened you up to reading, it doesn’t change what he said about it or your experience with it to say that it is trope filled slop. It has as much merit as any other children’s literature in a similar vein.

  • @connorwilliamson3
    @connorwilliamson3 Před rokem +29

    I still think sitting down to read Harry Potter is better than mindlessly scrolling through social media….

  • @AishwaryaPratimRabha
    @AishwaryaPratimRabha Před 3 lety +5

    harold knew

  • @Monkwhispers
    @Monkwhispers Před rokem

    Thank you!

  • @carlodave9
    @carlodave9 Před 4 lety +32

    Dang. Wanted him to speak more about Dickens who, though incredibly popular, was considered simplistic and mediocre by academic critics of his day, much like Rowling and King are today. Bloom dodged the obvious implication. 9:52.

    • @RichardStiennon
      @RichardStiennon Před 3 lety

      I thought this was exactly the counterpoint that Rose was making in asking the question!

    • @davida.rosales6025
      @davida.rosales6025 Před 2 lety +5

      King is not simplistic. Actually he is convoluted, messy, and quite frankly, very random.
      And I highly doubt J.K. Rowling is the future Charles Dickens... Dickens may have been simplistic, but he wasn't a bag of politically-correct cliches and safe "fantasy".

    • @Laocoon283
      @Laocoon283 Před rokem +2

      Just because Dickens went on to be considered something more then pop culture does not mean that every book that is currently considered just pop culture will go on to later be considered literature. I don't think he missed that implication I think he thinks Rowling will never be compared to Dickens.

  • @AnaLuizaHella
    @AnaLuizaHella Před 2 lety

    I didn't read or watched "Lord of the rings" and never will.
    Bloom... I know you're having a lot of fun in the library you have now. Love and you'll be always on our hearts. 🌹
    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @serban8298
      @serban8298 Před 2 lety

      @@JoelLopez-vs5is Because she's a snob, just like Bloom!That's why!

    • @yohei72
      @yohei72 Před 11 měsíci +1

      (eye roll) Don’t cut yourself on that edge.
      Man, Bloom’s fans are one of the best critiques of Bloom.

  • @ReadingAdam
    @ReadingAdam Před měsícem

    The quotes around 13:00 are interesting, where reading, the solitary activity, is primarily time spent with yourself, learning about yourself, discovering yourself. Quite true. The book turns us inward, but I do think there can be too much of it. I wish the interviewer had asked Bloom to clarify how many books he was expecting his students to come to school having read.

  • @shabirmagami146
    @shabirmagami146 Před rokem +1

    amazing ....brilliant man ....Bloom 💌💌💌💌

  • @fabianapereira8631
    @fabianapereira8631 Před 3 lety +19

    "We ignore the classics at the expense of our own potential debasement" 😂😍

  • @gobbagu
    @gobbagu Před rokem +2

    God bless Harold Bloom

  • @CesarClouds
    @CesarClouds Před 3 lety

    I love Mr Bloom. R.I.P.

  • @stevendurham9996
    @stevendurham9996 Před 3 lety +1

    My kind of Professor!

  • @thoughtfuldevil6069
    @thoughtfuldevil6069 Před 5 lety +11

    9:40
    Best laugh I've had in a looooooooong time!

    • @thoughtfuldevil6069
      @thoughtfuldevil6069 Před 2 lety +1

      @@JoelLopez-vs5is Stephen King has fans going back forty years and the HP reunion was literally yesterday xD

  • @david-pb4bi
    @david-pb4bi Před měsícem

    So true, 71 now my children got me on the internet 10 years ago and I stopped reading, can’t remember what I watched last week but can still remember what I read thirty years ago (funny can’t remember were I put my car keys).

  • @sebolddaniel
    @sebolddaniel Před 10 měsíci +1

    I have read Don Quixote a number of times in Spanish. I can only boast that Cervantes and I both have sailed the Mediterranean and we both set sail for the first time from Naples, though not together. My Navy ship almost sailed straight into the coast of Algeria once where I swore I saw a young Moorish woman escaping in a boat from her father's castle with some rapscallions on their way to Spain

  • @MAFion
    @MAFion Před 2 lety +14

    We've lived through a revolution not only of culture but of human consciousness in our own time when our text-based society gave way to the ubiquity of mass media. It's changed the way we think, reflect, act and behave. Bloom here, at the turn of the millennium no less, sings the last lament to an age gone by, an age when people had the capacity, depth, and attention span to read the classics like Moby Dick, War and Peace, etc. Google is wonderful but after years of clicking and scrolling and swiping I really wonder if I have it in me to make it through The Count of Monte Cristo.

    • @farawayeye8423
      @farawayeye8423 Před rokem

      This ex-bookworm sadly relates

    • @lonelycubicle
      @lonelycubicle Před rokem

      I’ve read several articles about how it takes effort to get back one’s attention span.

    • @lexpaulson
      @lexpaulson Před 4 dny

      Just read Monte Cristo. An incredible page-turner. Long but totally worth it.

  • @syourke3
    @syourke3 Před rokem

    A hero to all those who value great literature.

  • @859902
    @859902 Před rokem

    I have re read very few novels but am going back to Blood Meridian very soon

  • @ctrl_altesc
    @ctrl_altesc Před rokem +1

    Ending with the Cormac Mccarthy Blood Meridian plug, what an absolute chad. Blood Meridian truly is one of if not the greatest product of American literature in the past 100 years.

  • @shanecadden7914
    @shanecadden7914 Před rokem

    His critiques of the internet are very interesting from a modern viewpoint. The endless surfacing Bloom references, has definitely led to issues of information overload and questionable reliability for sources of news and information. However, I do love the internet, I think it is a great resource for discussions (like this), lectures, books, languages learning and all the classics that he is advocating for (public domain, you get find a copy with a Google search). I think the internet can be a great tool but it depends on how you use it.

  • @aadityasrivastava7112
    @aadityasrivastava7112 Před 11 měsíci +3

    He was right about the "The gray ocean of emptiness"

    • @jjjjj-vs8pw
      @jjjjj-vs8pw Před 11 měsíci

      I'd say it's the only thing he was wrong about here. The internet is the opposite of a gray ocean of emptiness; that's what's dangerous about it

  • @therealbs2000
    @therealbs2000 Před 4 lety +3

    1:00 damn that was a crazy ass canned laugh track

  • @mahdiyar.ma8809
    @mahdiyar.ma8809 Před 2 lety

    Beautiful TNX a lot

  • @vinm300
    @vinm300 Před 3 lety +2

    9:00 pop culture, fashion books (eg Harry Potter, Da Vinci Code)

  • @thedumbguncollector5546
    @thedumbguncollector5546 Před 2 lety +3

    29:46 for cool discussion of Blood Meridian

  • @j.p.kempkes5103
    @j.p.kempkes5103 Před 5 lety +29

    "Blood Meridian" - my polestar...I literally hallucinated reading it

    • @leventetakacs1641
      @leventetakacs1641 Před 4 lety +7

      Reading that novel is truly a psychedelic experience- it's like a rather scary trip

    • @kamuelalee
      @kamuelalee Před 4 lety

      All the Pretty Horses!

    • @danasheys9300
      @danasheys9300 Před 3 lety

      Blood meridian 3 a magnificent book read it twice.... so far

    • @ericsierra-franco7802
      @ericsierra-franco7802 Před 2 lety

      Blood Meridian is my favorite book! Awe inspiring!

    • @ericsierra-franco7802
      @ericsierra-franco7802 Před 2 lety

      @@kamuelalee
      Good book. The first of the Border Trilogy. But Blood Meridian is far superior.

  • @isaacemanuel152
    @isaacemanuel152 Před rokem

    I just have to say that to come to this comment section after mindlessly scrolling through the dregs of social media comment sections is a breath of fresh air. Most of the people here are having discussions in long, multiple paragraph entries with both dignity and respect for one another. It is a shame that this sort of thing is a rarity on the internet to the extent that it is surprising to find even a single video where that is main mode of discussion in the comments below. Perhaps it is pretentious of me to say this, but I really don’t care. Godspeed to all of you, I wish you well in all of your endeavors.

  • @rodrigocampos1225
    @rodrigocampos1225 Před 6 lety +1

    Charlie reminds me so much of Bryan Cranston. In appearance, voices and way of speaking.

  • @donaldwhittaker7987
    @donaldwhittaker7987 Před rokem

    Right on!!!

  • @jackwalter5970
    @jackwalter5970 Před 2 lety

    Brilliant.

  • @kpimkpim349
    @kpimkpim349 Před 4 lety +3

    I can't, for the life of me, see how Tom O Bedlam is about 'a life unlived'.

  • @Sewnkinmusic
    @Sewnkinmusic Před 3 lety

    I named a tune after this guy baby, RIP king

  • @CleanFamilyVideos
    @CleanFamilyVideos Před 4 lety +3

    Sleep eternally and enlighten the beast/angel over that endless chess match, sweet prince. You were right about Miss Lonelyhearts. One of the best.

  • @gkissel1
    @gkissel1 Před 3 lety

    Wow..., just, wow.

  • @clemfarley7257
    @clemfarley7257 Před rokem

    A debt of gratitude. RIP.

  • @cateliper3588
    @cateliper3588 Před 5 lety +7

    Anyone else crack up at his expression when he calls Shakespeare "a syphilitic" ??

  • @oyvey9463
    @oyvey9463 Před 2 lety +8

    I discovered the work of Mr. Bloom right after he passed away. I had been considering pursuing my masters in English for a while, and reading him and seeing these videos persuaded me to do just that. I wish he was here so I could tell him he changed my life. RIP, sir.

  • @howardkoor2796
    @howardkoor2796 Před 4 lety +1

    What a mind!

  • @carlmurphy2416
    @carlmurphy2416 Před 14 dny

    His prediction regarding Harry Potter didn't age well in terms of people not remembering what they read, however his prediction that the internet will cause widespread mind-rot was spot on

  • @fabiobonetta5454
    @fabiobonetta5454 Před 2 lety

    Good ol' Harold

  • @graham6132
    @graham6132 Před rokem +2

    Hey, I'd take Harry Potter as prescribed reading in schools nowadays compared to what the syllabi are starting to look like:
    "Harry, the Non-Binary, Trans-Species Unicorn goes to the Zoo "

  • @calledmoe
    @calledmoe Před 4 lety +6

    8:18 They start talking about Harry Potter

  • @danasheys9300
    @danasheys9300 Před 3 lety +4

    " we raad against the clock"

  • @angelrojo6466
    @angelrojo6466 Před 2 lety +2

    Brilliant. Thank you Mr. Bloom for everything.

  • @mtnshelby7059
    @mtnshelby7059 Před 11 měsíci

    I'm of the pre-Harry Potter generation. We had to find our magic elsewhere. For me it was the horse books, National Velvet and The Red Pony and King of the Wind for starters.

  • @reactolite
    @reactolite Před 3 lety +3

    Five min 58 sec in and i'm screaming (in my head) stop interrupting him!!! Let him give his own answers in his own good time!!!

    • @nlee3877
      @nlee3877 Před 3 lety +3

      Years ago, SNL did a bit about Rose where he constantly interrupts the guest. Very funny stuff. The guy is usually more interested in his own question than in the guest's response.

    • @lonelycubicle
      @lonelycubicle Před rokem

      Be a good host & let your guest speak

  • @jmgresham93
    @jmgresham93 Před 6 měsíci

    Knowledge of grammar was the subject of his soul.

  • @mikec6733
    @mikec6733 Před 3 lety +9

    I'm going to start reading the Classics. Oh wait, my NBA team has a game tonight. 😬

  • @manmohanbisht5816
    @manmohanbisht5816 Před 3 měsíci

    I think this book will help me some to read and understand non fiction

  • @hammothyst6005
    @hammothyst6005 Před 4 lety +187

    'Ok Bloomer'

    • @1bluehammock
      @1bluehammock Před 4 lety +18

      Well hey in all seriousness if the next generation wakes up to true aesthetic value and breaks the magic of technocratic led society, maybe one day in the not too distant future we will see a "Bloomer" class peoples...

    • @skiphoffenflaven8004
      @skiphoffenflaven8004 Před 4 lety +1

      Hehe

    • @SP-qi8ur
      @SP-qi8ur Před 4 lety

      @@1bluehammock What do you consider is the opposition between a technocratically led society and the pursuit of aesthetic principles?

    • @1bluehammock
      @1bluehammock Před 4 lety +7

      @@SP-qi8ur a difference in moral values and social agendas

    • @marizzz1872
      @marizzz1872 Před 3 lety +1

      @@1bluehammock I’m pretty sure my generation is radical against most factors, pushing towards new forms of values and morals that is kind and understanding to all types of people. But also, very distant from another.