Springfield Hellion at the Range: The Most Modern Bullpup
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Being a little back heavy is probably an advantage when you start adding bi-pods, lights, can openers, lasers, coffee grinders, etc. to the front end.
Tactical Bacon
Pretty sure the coffee grinder goes in the buttstock...
don't forget tactical CFA sauce holder
@@GNpatent is that pic rail, keymod, or m-lok rail mounted tactical bean holder mod for the tactical bacon attachment?
@@RichardCranium321 It uses its own custom made wrap-around, and TactiCool(tm), mount that is compatible with "pic rail, keymod, and m-lock"
I love how Ian is so in tune with the VHS-2 that he even uses the official Croatian army camo designation "CROPAT", a nice camo and not very common.
Also, as a Croat, I'm glad this bullpup got such a god reception.
Poglavnik Ian mccallum helping croats at the eastern front 1942 colored
Ian i Hrvati
I own a xdm elite 3.8 compact in 9mm and love the gun. Very high quality, a great shooter. My hats off, and a deep bow to the good men and women in Crotia who work in designing and producing a very fine firearm.
Is it pronounced KRÖT or KRO-AT?
Croatia was so beautiful when I visited a few years back. People were also incredibly nice. I now carry a Hellcat and appreciate it so much more than I otherwise would have.
This video is like a game that offers an EXTREME setting for depth of field.
Shot with iPhone 13 fake bokeh?
The fabled 2nd person perspective. It's making me uneasy.
Ian McCollum's Forgotten Match, training mode. Max settings, raytracing on.
It's a bizarrely small depth of field when the focus is in close. Also looks like the camera is very stubborn about where it fixes that focus, as displayed when it insisted on focusing on the top of the saguaro in the background rather than Ian and rifle in foreground.
@@DrBunnyMedicinal it's not actual depth of field, it's a post-processing function that some recent higher end phones have. Bloody awful gimmick IMO.
"Some sort of strange malfunction where there's no more bullets in the gun!"
Somebody needs to design a system that prevents this malfunction from happening.
I think Hollywood in California has developed such a system
@@legallyfree2955 Thanks for the laugh... Remind me some good time in theater in the 80s when we were wondering where in hell the truck for the ammo was 😂 No I did not say Commando with Schwartz 😇
Up-up-down-down-left-left-right-up-select
Ye Olde Dog Tag Rounds
Well, there are belts, but they only prevent the inevitable
I see you got yourself a CROPAT pattern Croatian army uniform. Nice touch!
I'm guessing, but I suspect he had an opportunity to pick it up while at the last Finnish Brutality.
Reminds me of the time I fought Croatia ☺️
@@cptmario why would I fight Jack’s shit?
Also chill I was making a joke, of course I didn’t fight the entire country of Croatia….
Takes a Croation rifle to the range, wears a Croatian Army combat shirt. I like your style Sir.
"yes weird the gun stops shooting when the ammunition run out" LMAO
Hollywood: "Guns run out of ammo?"
mind blow
I guess at next DB I'll bring my RDB, Jordan can bring the Hellion, you bring your Famas, Karl can run the Desert Tech and we will get Jenny or Jari to run a Tavor and we can do Battle of the Bullpups.
And if James Reeves from TFBTV can come, he can bring his AUG. Or somebody can run an AUG.
What about the AUG :(
Throw in a K&M arms M17S!!!
@@ninjax4909 yes and the Aug...of course. Probably missed something else as well. Ian can make the official list.
so a 6 way battle, I'm interested (assuming there are 6 players since the aug is mentioned in the reply)
4:45 the way this is shot is so strangely reminiscent of MGSV - the setting, camera movement and depth of field all make it look super videogame-y :D
edit: to be clear the DoF is really a minor factor: it's the camera movement and shot choices that make it look like MGSV specifically
Ian: Kept you waiting, huh?
Ian:Why we still here?
enGRAVINGS.
Yeah that’s actually really odd looking. It almost looks like artificial depth of field
@@jbarbeau92 Yeah that's artificial. Look at the rifle at ~5:00, whereas the DoF filter in the open slots of the rifle (where you can see the background) does not work correctly. Also these individual strand of Ian's hair that are hanging further off are filtered. This is why it looks like a video game, the effect is artificial and overdone.
This looks like an interesting rifle. It’s introduction push certainly has been well coordinated. I hope it’s long term reliability is good. Another great video!
Apparently it's reliability is great and is the reason behind adoption by Iraqi army. They fight in deserts and VHS-2 never gets jammed.
I found some information that in one test 50 000 rounds were shot without any malfunction and you can find a video of VHS 1 tested for Croatian army (dirt,high and low temperatures,water, ice rain,salt baths,mud, combination of water, clay and sand...No problems)
@@SuperLusername being adopted by Iraq isnt bragworthy
@@darrengarcia4937 not if you're stupid, no. If you had any reading comprehension ability at all, you would realize my point wasn't Iraq but where Iraq operates - in the bloody desert.
@@SuperLusername "bloody" desert lol
That digital blur effect is more distracting than it is doing any good, even when it is working "as intended" like with shots at 4:58 where all the edges are blurry for no real reason. It would be best to use real lens (of a camera) or simply omit any form of blur if filming with a cellphone.
Yeah it's set to auto and it couldn't decide to focus on Ian or the targets when filming over the shoulder.
Would be nicer if focus is manually manipulated with a lens.
Yeah, the artificial bokeh is really distracting, especially when it's so strong it obscures Ian's left eye when the focus is on his nose.
As a plus though, in a couple of bits it made Ian kind of look like a 3D model in Fallout 4 :D
Matt a demolition ranch got heat for the same issue.
These super clever "as good as a cinema camera" phones are just not. They're really good, but definitely should cut back on the ai blur.
The Video Game industry is still trying to perfect fake motion blur for DECAEDS; it still looks like crap even on POWERFULL PC hardware. > Disable motion blur [X] always. Especially in shooter games.
The fact that the camera-man is Filming ILR shooting and has enabled that "feature"... Boggles the mind and makes one question
And you can hear the dude mouth-breathing INTO the mic, louder than Jesus is speaking; this started happening a long time ago and made me skip a bunch of vids :(
As a military rifle this will probably be fielded with several devices up front so the light front end is unlikely to be a problem.
Edit: Texas plinking put a small foregrip and a lightweight titanium can on the front and it had perfect balance at the grip.
Nothing like an excuse to add a bipod and a torch!
I'd have loved if they also imported the musket version right from the beginning. That's what bullpup rifles are for.. Make a "short" rifle TINY or make a LONG rifle much more compact. 20" and 5.56 go together so fantastically well and helps make bulk ammo viable ammo.
having trained on the Steyr, I can happily say that the light front end is a feature. :P
A light front end is not a problem, is a quality. Recreational shooters don't now that because they never had to carry one for several hours in the field like the military, nor do incursions on a slum or building with the weapon constantly pointing forward, like the police.
@@magoid don’t think it’s so much the weight as the balance. Dude is spoiled by the WWSD.
You'd hope that sensible armies would specify a longer barrel too. If the point of a bullpup is to get the maximum propellant efficiency and accuracy out of a package then the 20in barrel would seem to be a better choice. That gives you a weapon the same length as an M4 but much better suited to the infantry trade.
Running BOTH a VHS-2 and a Laugo Alien. That's one heck of a setup!
way too much sauce fr
Halo IRL
Slavic weapons rules 😀
I like the bullpup format, I recognize it's limitations, but for many scenarios it is ideal, having a full length barrel for maximum energy and velocity, while still providing maximum mobility. Another consideration is maneuverability in tight situations, like the hallway in your house, that full length bbl reduces blast and flash while still having a rifle instead of a handgun.
What are its limitations vs features that maybe different than were used to?
As bullpup designs go, I like it. I'd probably add a hand stop to it, just for peace of mind. Definitely worth checking out if given the opportunity.
The 9 hole reviews Slate Stop ad for mlok grips and accessories just played in my head reading this
I was also thinking that the magpul handstop kit would go good on this rifle
I don't know why people are so reluctant to adopt these bullpups. The Helghast made them standard issue so they must be pretty decent!
Perhaps some sort of weighted one to balance it out a bit
@@shinobi-no-bueno light and a suppressor would work, or a linear comp.
Because every "working" firearm should have a light.
“A strange malfunction where there’s no more bullets in the gun”
Oh, yeah... This is going to be a *VERY* popular rifle.
Edit: Clearly NOT a Hollywood weapon - no bottomless magazines.
It is a very sci-fi Hollywood weapon. That should sell.
You can get drum mags
Lets be real here, anything from revolvers to rifles is bottomless in hollywood's books.
I think I'd go RDB or deserttech first. Because 1: money and 2: my money doesn't go to Springfield.
Do people really still complain about them not showing reloads in movies?
They don't show people taking a shit, and wiping thier ass either. We can assume it happens though.
I'm so glad this rifle is getting the love it deserves.
Long-time viewer; Ian is the one who rekindled my interest in firearms and for that I cannot thank him enough. As a fellow left-handed shooter, it's especially valuable to me to have someone like you who can highlight weapons like the Hellion for whom the left-handed are not "forgotten," and also show a noob shooter like me how to operate and handle the many other firearms out there that aren't designed with lefties in mind.
This may be a new-production, new-to-the-market rifle, but one that's very thoughtfully designed with my "forgotten" brothers and sisters in mind, so I think it absolutely fits on this channel :) tl;dr - more lefty-centric content? Please? Just one video would be great, I shan't ask for more. Thank you for all that you do and all the best in 2022!
"Some sort of strange malfunction when the ammo runs out."
Oh that explains action heroes that never have to reload.
6:00 as far as being rear heavy goes, i know you'll hate to hear this, but front loading the gun with accessories would help with that. Get an optic with a longer eye relief, a light, maybe a foregrip, and wham bang zoom you're good to go
I would love to see a long-term review of the MDRX, and I would love to see your comparisons and thoughts of the AUG, the X95, the MDRX and the Hellion.
I would also enjoy a comparisons. I have been in the x95 camp, but more info is needed.
On inrange they did a lot with the mdr. Did some comparisons as well and always agreed that the mdr was the best.
Ian and Karl from Inrange generally don’t like the Aug and Tavor, I can’t exactly remember why but I think it has a lot to do with the lack of ambidexterity on both platforms.
@@Gecko99 yeah it was that plus not as much selection in caliber conversions and also not as easy for the ones they can do. Plus I believe they liked the ergonomics better on the mdr and the trigger I believe. Also did the best with dirt and grime I believe.
I don't think they liked the MDR enough to do anything long term with it. There's wideo's on InRange about it.
I'm just gonna take a moment to appreciate that the camera quality for range videos has been getting better over time. It's great to see improvements to all the aspects of this series as it goes along. Great work guys!
Lovely. Is it just me though, or is there weird blurring (e.g. background and edges) in the last shooting video?
Yeah they had some software bokeh setting on. Doesn't really work in these videos.
I think its because its recorded on a iPhone with one of its profile modes
Looks like artificial blur done through iPhone / other smartphones.
Yeah it's rather bad, I had to stop watching as it was giving me a migraine.
I cant stand it. Its horrible.
Ian, in the 6 to 8 years I've been following your channel, I'd like to congratulate you on the progress and improvement you've made in your competitive shooting abilities.....
You've really improved your skills quite a lot and it helps when people see that you are putting the theory in to action of the advice you offer....
as a Croat, I am stoked that this rifle is getting good reception
It seems to be a well designed rifle. If nothing else, you'll always get good feedback on guns from the US. We love to shoot stuff.
I think the only issue most people have is the bolt release. It's a little awkward to manipulate.
It deserves more recognition. Hopefully my country hungary will adopt this beutifully made gun.
Y'all basically made an 80's rifle, modernized it, and then spliced it with them m8a5 assault rifle from Halo. It's so hot but I feel cheated we can't see it in full auto.
@@u2beuser714 you guys have some cool guns too, also good day neighbor
Be proud! My XDM Elite is awesome, a very nice shooter and great quality.
I thought I was interested in the Tavor, but I'm super interested in this. I'd like a bit longer of a barrel, personally, but this is a very nice design.
Lol you again. Yea you should buy this over the tavor. Do it. DoitDoitDoitDoitDoit.
Perhaps SA will import the D version with a longer barrel
@@snjuro4755 your wish has been granted lol
Wow you're actually wearing Cropat (croatian pattern camo, used by the army)! Nice
This old revolver and lever gun dude would give critical body parts for a fully functional Bull Pup rifle in 5.56. Assuming it's durable, easy to maintain, and works I see absolutely no serious draw backs. I like short barrel rifles and carbines anyway. Given me a 20" barrel in a gun shorter than a model 94? Yes I'm in!
I think the big concern with the ejection port makes me wish the FS2000 got more development. I really like ours and it's ambidextrous with the exception of the charging handle but it's a very easy rotation to get to it.
I doubt the F2K'll get further developments now that the SCAR is really successful, but man would it be great
@@ArcturusOTE Afaik it's discontinued yeah
@5:00 the artificial super narrow depth of field and focus racking is REALLY distracting, and very much not perfect, I ended up mostly hunting for holes where it failed rather than just watching the footage.
I know some newer smartphones do this automatically and don't always get it right, so I'd say it's that rather an intentional look they were going for.
Looking how throughout entire video it had issues with staying focused or what it should be focused, including focusing on background on sides of Ian, while keeping Ian in center dominating screen being out of focus, it's more like glass, than setting, maybe also firmware of camera not really suited for this particular glass...
yeah this really confused me looks terrible is this apples new cine mode? or some copy of it its really bad.
Yep. I was ignoring Ian and looking for little holes of focus near his body lmao.
It looks terrible, I hope this was just a short-term solution and not a new visual style for the channel
Man, I can't wait to purchase this some time next year. Gonna look so nice next to my Tavor.
If what you say about the weight balance is true, perhaps having a suppressor on the end would perfect this weapon. Add a bit of weight on the end plus reducing sound, blast etc. Could be cool on a wepon that has a short overall length.
I've heard that one of the other GunTubers put a titanium can and a bipod on it for perfect balance.
I appreciate the new depth of field camera stuff, but if I may offer a kind critique. I feel like the depth was too shallow, and/or the focal point was too close to the camera person. Also, it may work better with manual focus pulls and pushes in this style.
Anyway, not a negative at all, love your videos...very interesting and I learn a lot. Thank you and all the people you work with to make this possible!
It's fake software dof. You can see it struggling around the rifle. Really distracting imho.
It’s okay to be critical. Ian is a consummate professional and one of the best on this site, but this AI blur is not good for the video.
Interesting ambidextrous approach to the ejection.
I’d love to see this rifle fitted with the Swiss “case head first” ejector mechanism. Might just be the bullpup ejection ultimate solution.
So like the F2000?
I was hoping ian would compare this more to other bullpubs but his comments are still helpful. I like how many different mags this gun can take with the mag well customization and the easier set to for suppressor ian seemed to be pretty harsh on this gun at times but considering its still pretty new the gun did a lot better then other new guns on the channel.
Those front QD swivel sockets just cry out for someone to design bipod legs for them. Get KE arms to design a trigger pack for it and I think you would have had better luck with that star.
As a Croat, I am proud of the positive reception that this rifle is getting
Dođi natrag u hrvatsku i živi ko kmet ko i mi ostali ;)
@@sentaveliki425 Posjećujem dva puta godišnje, ali moj hrvatski je loš ;)
Thank goodness we got such a clear picture...of the dirt.
That poor Bronco. As the happy owner of a '95 Bronco with over 300,000 miles on it, seeing one in that condition makes me sad.
Oh, and cool rifle, cool match, thanks for another good one.
The Hellion rifle and the Alien pistol make a very nice cyberpunk-style loadout, love it.
not only that, they function like no other guns (well, maybe): VHS-2/Hellion being one of the most ambidextrous guns to exist, other being P90 which both are funnily enough bullpups. and the alien having different sights
$1999 I may actually start putting a little back for one of these.
Thank you , Ian .
Great camera work. Dam it snowed here today. Beautiful range
I definitely want the 20" barrelled version
You get quite a bit more velocity in .556 by going from a 16in. barrel to a 20 inch
@@ChiquitaSpeaks Is 125fps quite a bit to you?
To me, that’s negligible.
@@TheTrueNorth11 more like 150+ but with heavier ammo it’s more substantial
@@ChiquitaSpeaks Nah. More like 125 with 55 gr. bullets.
Maybe 150-165 fps increase with 70 gr. bullets.
Looks awesome still wish to see a 5.56 tavor 7. I currently have the sar, x95 and tavor 7 and for pure ergonomics the 7 is amazing.
Loving the new camera, Ian!
I absolutely NEED one of these as I love both my MDR and X95.
I reckon this rifle would benefit a lot from being able to quickly lock the charging handle to either the left or right position so you don't have to manipulate it out every time you charge it.
Not from a military point of view - that would be something to get snagged.
I’d prefer an AR-10 or FAMAS style “shark fin” charging handle over the G36 flappy paddle, but that’d make the gun even taller so I understand why they didn’t do that.
That's what last round hold opens are for. So charging handles are rarely used and don't require excessive unnecessary manipulation just to swap a magazine.
@@randomidiot8142 Totally slipped my mind, you're right
I had the same thought as you, but then I imagined the real worst use of this handle in the field, e.g. I'm in thick winter mittens and have trouble bending it outwards towards my hand ("fishing it out"). Or my fingers are frozen or injured. Well, I can just mash the handle, and it will bend the other way, but I'll still rack the thing - the slit under the rail is wide enough. Basically the bendy thing's function is to become something wide to push against.
Definitely impressed with this gun, going to start saving up for one myself. Been in the market for a good modern rifle like this for a while. Was considering the MDR in .308 but I am more than happy to go with this lovely piece of engineering in 5.56, it will be a fun range gun and it is a beauty to look at.
@@mercedes_nuts overhyped
@@mercedes_nuts exactly why it isn't.
@@mercedes_nuts dunno, but it's not the aug.
I really like your set up.
Cool this rife would be on my short list for the next rifle...hopping for a 20 inch version
Ah man, NEVER AGAIN use the phone camera's fake depth blur effect. It looks like shit and causes bad problems in videos, especially when the intended focus plane moves from far to near and vice versa.
Yeah, I'm not going to.
@@SEGFC you're a joke. The quality of a video is not dependant on the camera you're using when we are talking about CZcams content. And the purpose of these videos are guns and guns only which don't even require a movie quality.
There is absolutely nothing to complain about these videos except a very occasional camera user error, which is to be expected on the relatively low but perfectly adequate production quality of these videos.
@@SEGFC Aw diddums, did the free content disappoint?
It was enjoyable in 240p though.... just saying...
@@wastedangelematis question, is your internet really slow or were you in data
What's with the weird depth of field effect going on in the second half?
It's quite distracting.
Yeah they had some software bokeh setting on. Doesn't really work in these videos.
Interesting lens.
The shot at 6:50 would make a good banner pic.
Great cinematography y'all
This is where you should fine tune the gun to your preference by adding weight or accessories at what you feel is best for you (plenty of rails for that lol) whether it be a suppressor or a lamp of some kind or even just a dead weight at a set point forward of the balance point (could maybe make a video clip showing that and before and after at the range?)
I guess some of that back heavy nature of a bullpup will be fixed by attaching lights, lasers, a suppressor, etc.
Or like a plunger
Or just a longer barrel.
The FAMAS is perfectly balanced on the grip with a full magazine, and it has an 18" barrel and bipod.
Thanks for making this video
Keep up the great work Ian .
Way back in the way-back machine when I was a kid and Blockbuster didn't even have DVDs, only VHS, I remember the cassettes having a sticker which read, "Be Kind, Rewind". Keeping with the VHS jokes, if I had one of these, I'd have to have some laser etched mags that said, "Be Kind, Reload."
Back in the day I had an adapter to run vhs C (compact) tapes
I have yet to buy a bullpen, I've tried a few. I'm really considering the Springfield.
I didn't know springfield sold bullpens.
The more you know.
As someone who’s always wanted this rifle for years ever since playing the first Killzone….I’m excited
I feel like someone got a new camera for some reason. The cinematography seems even better.
It would be cool to see this field also run with an ar just so everyone can see a standard rifle compared to bull pups on a field shouted for bull pups. Like is having a standard rifle that much of a disadvantage in a stage like that
Russel did that for you czcams.com/video/b_4CsXuX3BA/video.html
Out of all the bullpups out there I still want the MDR the most. Its had the best overall reviews for a non battle tested rifle. I would love to see a comparison of this and the mdr
Stay tuned to inrangetv
For Me, It's The Stuff Dreams Are Made Of! Since I'm Dreaming, I'd Lose The Scope, Add A Red Dot & A Vertical Foregrip.
Really good camera you got!
It looks like a fine rifle. That said, I've never been a fan of bullpups and I doubt this would change my mind. I'd rather put a Zhukov-S stock on my AK and call it good.
Thanks for a great demonstration.
Great video as always...but I really dislike the "faux" depth-of-field that has been added to the desert shots. Bokkeh is fine, but this just looks really weird. Is this a camera feature or post-processing??
(for instance 8:34, the background is all in focus, apart from the bit you can see through the reciever. 8:56 the background is all out-of-focus apart from through the reciever, which is sharp. It just looks all wrong, so I'm assuming it's a blur that has been added on-top)
I agree. The camera focus (or depth of field effect) seems to be doing some unpleasant things.
Someone else here mentioned it's from the new iphone (which I have, but never used this feature) I guess it's using the lidar to get range-finding, and then adding artifical blur based on the distance it senses the object from the camera...would explain why it doesn't register the gaps though the gun as distant objects, and why the edges of objects (and Ian) begin to go out of focus soo soon or too late. The lidar sensor is just not as high resolution as the camera sensor.
Camera "feature"
@@ScottKenny1978 yeah, turns out i have it on my i13 pro...just never used it.
Between you and Honest Outlaw reviewing all these cool new guns, I can't figure out what to get first.
The auto focus on the camera on Ian’s little private shoot during the second half of the video is crazy man
Thought something was wrong with my eyes 😂
The depth of field during the latter half of the video is out of whack
Just watched a vid of this same rifle over on Texas Plinker ... His had the slightly longer barrel (think it was 18 inch) and was balanced perfectly at the grip so Ian is probably right on weight balance...T.P. also fired with a suppresser on and the rifle had no issues at all. Looks like this rifle is going to be a pretty good seller from all the buzz going on about it
The review embargo lifted and everyone releaased a video at the same time.
I think he mounted his own muzzle brake, so it seems longer
@@hermitgreenn Yup I've seen at least 2 more channels on my feed list so your right
@@mynick937 The one he had on was different sure but would weigh pretty much the same...the other was the suppressor he tried out yet it still didnt make the rifle nose heavy...I think he also said his rifle had a 18 inch barrel on it (lol going off goldfish memory on this and 2 lazy to rewatch so correct me if you wish)... Either way I still like this rifle
@@rongray8416 I think they all had same model for review
One of my new favorite rifles for sure. Wish I could own one
Being a bit rear heavy works out when when you put a can on it. Then it will balance perfectly .. The tappet gas system is very nice as it keeps all the powder fouling well away from the action. The Suppressor or normal setting on the gas system is just perfect. Even after an extended shooting session with a suppressor the action is very clean. I have had a Steyr AUG for ages and love that but the VHS ( I really dislike the Hellion name ) is a really good rifle. The VHS can be set u p with accessories a lot more easily though. I really think the bullpup is the way to go. compared to a conventional rifle.
That bronco is too collectible to be stuck on the range! Someone save that! #forgottentrucks
Dude, it's a Bronco 2, those were utter crap!
@@ScottKenny1978 I know! I love the bronco 2s!
There's some weird depth of field stuff going on in this video. I can't say I'm a fan of it. Other than that, I've been enjoying the look at the import VHS-2.
It was incredibly distracting. I suspect the cameraman was using a f1.4 lens. Great for portraits; not so much for switching depths of field.
@@miketeeveedub5779 It's an AI digital filter (as others have said), you can see someone holding a camera phone in Ian's sunglasses; it's a bit evident as the blur isn't natural in some shots.
Guess it's someone trying something new (but doesn't really work).
@@miketeeveedub5779 a 1.4 lens would look good, provided the focus tracked properly. Not like this ghastly filter effect.
@@matt9ab Ah - I stand corrected. My coworker is a film buff and he said this effect comes from mimicking a F1.4 lens. Hope Ian doesn't use that effect again!
I absolutely love bullpups, this is a pretty nice version
The smartphone camera with fake bokeh though... 😂👌
Great video, I've enjoyed all of our updates on this rifle so far. I have say though, that digital focal point or whatever it is thats digitally blurring your background gots ta go. In Ian's name, amen.
Full Euro combo: Hellion + Alien 🤩❤️🔥
There has to be something genetic about croatians and Bullpup rifles, because as a Croatian myself, I have always loved the concept
Still rocking that Alien! love it. Guess that means either its your new favorite or youre really putting it through the tester there as you want it to be amazing!
Thank you Ian!
the artificial DOF is kinda bad.... but if you could clean it up a bit that would be an absolutely awesome effect
Dof?
@@NOT-FINANCIAL-ADVICE. depth of field
making the barrel profile a bit thinner (not the outer portion, but what's inside under the handguard)
The Hellion would then be weight-competitive with even the AR platform.
Still a great gun though :)
I heard it already has a barrel that tapers like a BCM… I wish they’d find a good way to get all bullpups down to 6-7lb though
Loved the video. The guy handling the camera focus can take a breath.
9:50 Fuuuuck. Ambidexterity is HUGE on bullpups. I'm a lefty, so I like that Gun Jesus usually includes that in his stuff, and I know bullpups are usually very specific about the shoulder you prop on. I need to look more at this gun.
This is the first bullpup i actually want to get my grubby mitts on. heres to hoping the prices dont retail too high
MSRP is $1999
@@chE3z1 and I've heard claims that wholesale is $1500.
How dare do manufacturers produce a gun that malfunctions when out of ammo?
It's what we'all been waiting foooor!
Very useful when driving in Tallahassee Fla.
That's the first bull pup rifle that I would like to try out, however it does look a bit heavy and weight is a big consideration for me.
Most are like that. Most bullpups are not known for their accuracy. But the weight bias makes the gun feel lighter and easier to shoulder longer. Maybe a flash light can offset that a little bit.
I think they said weight will come in around 8lbs. Especially with being smaller and rear biased, you won’t notice it at all.
@@JMG0590 As a none shooter I have to ask why, as from my perspective the design mealy moves the barrel backwards?
@@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse it's more comfortable as a shooter to have all the weight close to your shoulder, and I guess it also helps with stability, as the heaviest side of the weapon is closer to the shooter.
All bullpups except for the tavor 7 are going to be easier for small framed people to hold than a standard rifle length AR.
Any chance we could get a length with the flash hider removed and stock extended?
If its 29 inches or more its the first Maryland legal bullpup in the base configuration.
Website says 29.75 with the flash hider so Im not holding my breath
For anyone interested in this, Maryland State Police banned rifle list specifically identifies the hellion as "not banned"
On camera is good. On camera, in focus is even better.
I'd be interested to see a comparison/competition video between this and the MDR since you and Karl both seemed to really like that one also.
Stay tuned to inrangetv
This was a good range test, and I am sure with more practice this rifle would feel more comfortable with use. Great rifle but not for everyone.
5:10 The constant focus out focus in is making me nauseous
I'd love just for comparison to see one of you two running that with the WWSD and maybe a PCC for full comparison of cartridge capabilities and size complications of your rifle/carbine. Also I know it would be unsafe therefore not going to happen in the competition world but I'd just like to remind people on how hard it is to actually shoot through a front windshield accurately hence my curiosity on how pistol calibers would fare even without the glass impediment.
5:00 Man that focus really make it seem like Ian is infront of a greenscreen that's rendering some generic game background.