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Komentáře • 471

  • @kakurerud7516
    @kakurerud7516 Před 4 lety +101

    that last one is a 'Wife is making me sell but I dont want to sell' price

    • @smedleyheadleygames29
      @smedleyheadleygames29 Před 4 lety

      lol no shit

    • @bou222
      @bou222 Před 4 lety +1

      That is soo true. You hit the nail on the head right there man.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Před 3 lety

      Yeppers he's probably going to be like look honey I put it up for sale but on ones interested in buying it so we should just keep it

  • @StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep
    @StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep Před 4 lety +174

    If these Master Race builds are assembled with confidence on a table, it adds at least double the value. You can't even comprehend.

    • @pauliusgruodis137
      @pauliusgruodis137 Před 4 lety +18

      Oh my God. At first this post didn't make sense then I glanced at profile pic and name.

    • @brykit1972
      @brykit1972 Před 4 lety +6

      Build with confidence.

    • @ramibos6549
      @ramibos6549 Před 4 lety +2

      Bwahahhaha

    • @Elwildos
      @Elwildos Před 4 lety

      @mister.T Jr Haha me to lol.

    • @tend9203
      @tend9203 Před 4 lety +3

      Oh my god this comment is gold

  • @Solidlightvideo
    @Solidlightvideo Před 4 lety +91

    last one was amazing,
    i hope one day he looks at his son and says 'son i gave up my PC for you' sigh's deeply and looks up at the sky

    • @barbacue
      @barbacue Před 4 lety +3

      i had to pause the video and look at that RCA stereo and i have the same one so might i say it is absolute shit. not worth the $6500

    • @Ok-vw9zz
      @Ok-vw9zz Před 4 lety

      lucas belyea that is worth like 2000$ max

    • @dragandragan1345
      @dragandragan1345 Před 4 lety

      @@Ok-vw9zz aha,try to buy something like that for 2000$

  • @SimplyTubing
    @SimplyTubing Před 4 lety +18

    He looked at the listings and said
    “Uh Oh.. stinky.”

  • @Antsummerfield83
    @Antsummerfield83 Před 4 lety +21

    loved this video, it makes me love my pc setup a whole lot more after looking at what people are selling

  • @MrRagequitnow
    @MrRagequitnow Před 4 lety +12

    That last pc is listing off Userbenchmark scores, and giving the percentages that program gives them versus other peoples crap.

  • @SupaRush
    @SupaRush Před 4 lety +1

    The AOC G2460PQ monitor 4:37 on 1750 dollar PC is a 1080p 144hz 1ms TN panel with no g-sync/freesync. You can find one for $150 dollars today when it released it sold for $240-250

  • @thebestweston8307
    @thebestweston8307 Před 4 lety

    Just found you the other day and disappointed CZcams didn't suggest your videos sooner. I always see these types of videos but yours are by far the best. My day off has been invested into catching up on your videos. Thank you for existing you silly ass Canuck.

  • @Kingcork666
    @Kingcork666 Před 4 lety +3

    I have not laughed like that in a long time i can honestly say I love watching your vids. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

  • @bhume7535
    @bhume7535 Před 4 lety +5

    $1600 for a PC with a 7950... I bought a Sapphire Dual-X 7950 for $30 recently...

  • @skizzoo
    @skizzoo Před 4 lety +1

    Man, I watched this channel for a while now but I wasn't subbed and never bother to watch how many subs and views you get, I thought you have like 20k likes and at least 1 mil subs, I was wrong so I had to sub and enable the bell for all notifications, keep it up!

  • @typicalcrosbone3254
    @typicalcrosbone3254 Před 4 lety +8

    God I love this stuff man I laughed so hard good stuff man

  • @enilenis
    @enilenis Před 4 lety

    Ha. This reminds me of someone selling a Samsung TV on local craigslist for $200 with a cracked screen. Also a lengthy description of how wonderful the thing was back when it still worked, but the line that absolutely killed me was: "There is no picture, but the sound is perfectly fine." Yeah. $200 for a cracked flat screen wall radio.

  • @Silatas86
    @Silatas86 Před 4 lety

    Speaking of medical bills in the States... I got into a nasty car accident a gew months back and really messed up my wrist. Ambulance, 2 surgeries (plates/screws, tendon and nerve repair) 3 days in the hospital, 3 months of PT and the doctor follow ups. If i didnt have the coverage I have, it would be well over $200k

  • @goHaenchen
    @goHaenchen Před 4 lety +1

    „Aaah radeon 390 SERIES“ just triggered Siri on my iPad *facepalm* siri you‘re drunk go home

  • @agsel
    @agsel Před 4 lety

    "Stuck in the hospital with IVF" I fucking lost it

  • @BoyanZhelyazkov_theDoctor

    $2700 used = $900 brand new. I think some of these guys don't want to sell their PCs so put a ridiculous high prices.

  • @reaper15a
    @reaper15a Před 4 lety +1

    That Threadripper system, was probably built as a Plex Media server, hence the RCA Home Theater system.

    • @kendokaaa
      @kendokaaa Před 4 lety

      Hell of a Plex server lmao I hope they were transcoding 4K HDR movies or something

  • @kendokaaa
    @kendokaaa Před 4 lety +2

    It's amazing how much fluff people add to their ads just to fool someone into buying whatever they're selling, like the one with "32 compute units | Up to 5.1 TFLOPS"

  • @WetVertical
    @WetVertical Před 4 lety +5

    13:30 its a Spin-Q thermaltake cooler i had one back in the day :P

  • @navneetbanger95
    @navneetbanger95 Před 4 lety +5

    6:50 captions on lmaooo

  • @StAlchemyst
    @StAlchemyst Před 4 lety +1

    Sorry for the guys health problems too, but for the extra amount of money YOU pay in taxes every year in Canada for National health care (probably even less in most cases) you could have had health insurance for about $100 to $200 a month and not have to pay more than one $400 to $500 deductible for anything serious (usually bills or med expenses over 5,000 in a year. if just regular check ups in that year you won’t have to pay that) past that. It was cheaper per person. BEFORE the semi- subsidized Obama plan went into affect in 2014. All it takes is some personal responsibility here in the US and health insurance is STILL not that bad and you don’t have to wait for a government committee to decide whether you deserve that heart transplant or not.

  • @Blastoise1022
    @Blastoise1022 Před 4 lety

    Went to my local pawnshop the other day. They had a "custom" built PC in there and wanted $300. They were hesitant to let me hook it up in store, trying to pressure me to buy it to find out what was inside and wouldnt let me open it up. He kept on saying it was "powerful" and "performs as well as a PS4 Pro." It was a Core2 Duo E8400 and 2 Radeon R7 260Xs in Crossfire with 2gb of RAM.

  • @SirNickyT
    @SirNickyT Před 4 lety +1

    I feel like I'm part of the problem for you here but I can't help it, I love these episodes. It's one of my favorite game shows ever.

  • @kikihun9726
    @kikihun9726 Před 4 lety +10

    11:20
    Actually, this is the motherboard name:
    MSI MEG Z390 GODLIKE (MS-7B10)

    • @AxiniaAdrianStefan
      @AxiniaAdrianStefan Před 4 lety

      Price in Romania www.emag.ro/placa-de-baza-msi-socket-1151-meg-z390-godlike/pd/D7449VBBM/

  • @Kundalini12
    @Kundalini12 Před 4 lety +1

    That last computer, 4x116GB RAM... What?

  • @petercebo3163
    @petercebo3163 Před 4 lety

    Saw a guy selling a 2600 ryzen and mobo for 350. Like, more than retail. I msgd him about it and he said he wasn't dropping the price "just cuz the 2600 was on sale now" and had someone coming to buy it. I hope no one paid that much.

  • @TheRjc2325
    @TheRjc2325 Před 4 lety +1

    4:15 that 600V psu 😂😂😂😂

  • @frankthespank
    @frankthespank Před 4 lety

    “Hi, selling PC I paid $3,000 for 5 years ago for $4,000, pre-installed pirated software and the latest Windows 8 updates free of charge!”
    Or me selling something on Craigslist and someone messages me: “Hi, I would like to purchase your fine goods sir, I have 8 Xbox’s without any cables or controllers in trade.”

  • @ferdlc7757
    @ferdlc7757 Před 4 lety

    I hate when people overprice their junk by a massive amount and still have the tendency to write "lowballers Will be ignored"

  • @bou222
    @bou222 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the deep dive on these pc adds. They sure are a hoot. Take care TJ.

  • @B10KPlaysGames
    @B10KPlaysGames Před 3 lety

    _"Why are there two different graphics cards in this PC?!?!?!"_
    _"Why do you have 32GB of ram?!?! You don't need that much!!"_
    Linux users who pass through a whole Graphics Card and give 16GB of RAM to a QEMU/KVM Virtual Machine: *_bruh_*

  • @rtxrt73
    @rtxrt73 Před 4 lety +3

    So that i5 processor dump is near me .. however all my systems are AMD 🤣🤣

  • @atenga5881
    @atenga5881 Před 4 lety

    The last ad was using userbenchmark scores for all the parts. You know that website that decided to weigh multicore capabilities less for cpu's, upon the release of the ryzen zen 2 cpus, in favor of single and quad core performance in relation to an overall cpu "score".

  • @reubenmorris487
    @reubenmorris487 Před 4 lety

    These videos are so comical! I just found them about two weeks ago. Pure entertainment...nothing more, nothing less.

  • @ColoradoDualSport
    @ColoradoDualSport Před 4 lety

    The adds are funny. What's more funny is an obviously intelligent Canadian saying that his healthcare is free.

  • @nitronamous
    @nitronamous Před 4 lety

    Nice! Been waiting for this. Why would someone want to sue you? It’s their own dumb fault for putting stupidity on the interwebs. I would laugh if someone tried some shit like that to me

  • @zeomak2595
    @zeomak2595 Před 4 lety

    OK you were asking about 2 different GPUs... It's quite simple. I plan to do something simliar. If you don't want to game on your host machine, or your game does not run under Linux, then you simply run a VM and slave one of your GPUs to the VM, meaning that you have one GPU for your main host (which is likely just Linux with which you work) and your other stuff runs via VMs.

  • @twizz420
    @twizz420 Před 4 lety

    I know how much worse than these some of the ads I send in are, so I can just imagine how many great ads get missed in the mess of emails

  • @docm6060
    @docm6060 Před 4 lety +1

    Hey without pc part picker what do you estimate the cost personal pc B450 Carbon AC with Bluetooth and WiFi, AMD 2700 8core, trident Z 3200 ddr4 16gb, 850watt silver, Rtx 2060 super, and a western 2tb hdd, oh and a stock cpu cooler

  • @Spittin_Bars
    @Spittin_Bars Před 4 lety

    The guy totally pulled the proper graphics card from the PC and put an old card he had lying around.

  • @40gamer90
    @40gamer90 Před 4 lety +1

    Love the N64 shirt

  • @kendokaaa
    @kendokaaa Před 4 lety

    I tend to sell my stuff for much smaller amounts of money than I should. Thankfully I managed to sell my 2700X when the 3900X came out for $260 CAD when a new one wasn't that much more. Love these videos btw, always a good laugh

    • @ryn5302
      @ryn5302 Před 4 lety +1

      I do the same.. Sold a 1060 6gb for 90 bucks. Fast money and a happy buyer ;)

  • @ziggyz8345
    @ziggyz8345 Před 4 lety

    13:46 you know you dont know how to build computers when you get a 1200w PSU for a rig that only needs about 600

  • @santeenl
    @santeenl Před 4 lety

    @15:20 A 2700X is €175 here brand spanking new, that's like $180 USA.

  • @ThatBigJeep
    @ThatBigJeep Před 4 lety

    yayyyyy the add i sent in made it in your video! Thanks for all the fun as always Timmy Joe!!

  • @sonsofmatriarchy5552
    @sonsofmatriarchy5552 Před 4 lety +6

    0:55 all those *RTX boxes* in the background Timmy🤣🤣

  • @SirNickyT
    @SirNickyT Před 4 lety

    The 2700x is $130 if u bundle it at microcenter. $160 if you don't. That's craziness

  • @kazikzz9913
    @kazikzz9913 Před 4 lety

    you forgot that the 100$ with the minimal modding has a razer sticker on it. +900$ in value right there

  • @brendanbutkus2392
    @brendanbutkus2392 Před 4 lety +2

    ivf one is totally the dudes woman trying to sell it lmaooooo

  • @DesumetaruLiadz666
    @DesumetaruLiadz666 Před 4 lety +2

    9:12 Tim those are Nvidia Woodscrews that's why the price was jacked.

  • @fuminganus785
    @fuminganus785 Před 4 lety +1

    Worth $4637 i just built one with an rx580 8gb for only £650 so no way mate

  • @vhrod1681
    @vhrod1681 Před 4 lety

    Here in my country (Venezuela) people try to sell PCs like C2D and shtis like that for 150-200$... Once I even saw a dude asking 1.000$ for a FX 8350 with a 390x...

  • @BitcoinJake09
    @BitcoinJake09 Před 4 lety +1

    I got an AMAZING CL deal the other week :D
    I got a HP DL360 G5 server w/2× quad core Xeon CPUs, 24GB ECC ram & 6× 160gb 10k SAS drives in raid5. Its awesome! I love it! Gladly paid $80 for it! :D

  • @liljohngamer
    @liljohngamer Před 4 lety

    Timmy got some pep in his step since gettin that 2080ti

  • @keelan3894
    @keelan3894 Před 4 lety

    I sent you the ad that you used in the thumbnail. I figured you would get a kick out of that one! Too funny..... The crusty cpus were funny too.

  • @TheCRTProductions
    @TheCRTProductions Před 4 lety

    haha... love it... one of my favorite things people do on youtube, roasting people trying to sell their weird crap online :-)

  • @EvilTurkeySlices
    @EvilTurkeySlices Před 4 lety

    Looking at bad internet ads on the 50th birthday of the internet.

  • @ultralightfishingguy
    @ultralightfishingguy Před 4 lety

    Craigslist is just full of money grab listings. I call people out all the time selling turntables for 2-3x the cost of actual. They get mad.

  • @andyfeng6396
    @andyfeng6396 Před 4 lety

    the percentage means either above average %100 or below it, basically saying that is its %108 its %8 better than other graphics cards etc etc

  • @Greez1337
    @Greez1337 Před 4 lety

    I get a good chuckle seeing $500-$600 CAD Vega blower coolers on Kijiji. Low ballers ignored seems to be a constant.

  • @rushnerd
    @rushnerd Před 4 lety

    One of your best ad vids so far, you're on a roll lately!

  • @steamedcream7671
    @steamedcream7671 Před 4 lety

    Do you think $450 USD for a FX 8350, 212 evo cooler, MSI r9 390, 16GB 1833, 256 GB 860 evo SSD, corsair 750 watt modular psu in a NZXT S340 case is a fair price? I've cleaned the R9 390 very well and repasted it with Kryonaut. Basically I'm planning on selling this old rig once I build a new 3700x/3800x system later this month.
    I've also considered replacing the cpu, mobo, and memory for a Ryzen 1600, cheap b450, and 16GB of 2666 memory and charging $550-600.

  • @Evanx373
    @Evanx373 Před 4 lety

    Lol the 8700 with a 360mm aio. Ill take whatever hes smoking.

  • @avif007
    @avif007 Před 4 lety

    6.5k for the last one is just the funniest.
    Just out of curiosity as im trying to sell my old pc. What would be the reasonable price for a pc with the following specs:
    MB: Asus P8-H67M-Pro
    Ram: 16gb ram (4*4 g.skill set)
    Cpu: i7-3770k
    Graphics Card: Radeon RX 480 8gb
    PSU: 550w
    Drives: 1tb HDD + 128gb SSD

  • @MrInvisibiility
    @MrInvisibiility Před 4 lety

    Hey! Don't knock the phenom... I'm still rocking a 1090t. 😂😂

  • @bobbybrownsson69
    @bobbybrownsson69 Před 4 lety +1

    There is such thing as a GT690 lol. I love these vids funny as hell

  • @snowglitchyt5245
    @snowglitchyt5245 Před 4 lety

    Me: *wants to stream*
    Streaming software: U nEeD sOmE nEw DrIvErS fOr YoUr GpU
    Me: mh ok thats fair *goes to the amd radeon gpu driver list*
    Me: *searches for amd radeon hd 7900 series*
    Driver list: *shows me there aint any drivers for my gpu*
    Me: wot? :/
    Me: *googles for a explenation and sees a driver for it on a site*
    Me: *installs it and sees some korean words or something*
    Me: *stops the install asap*
    Me: nope..... I need some legit.... Drivers....
    Me: *realizes there isnt a driver for it*
    Me: But i wana to stream :c

  • @collieplum2176
    @collieplum2176 Před 4 lety +1

    love this so much reminds me people dont know what stuff is worth anymore

  • @shydre
    @shydre Před 4 lety

    The red Thermaltae case is a P3, it's a good case if you like to custom water cool your rig and it doubles up as a decent test bench in a pinch (I got a white one for my old loop) I DON'T try and sell it for a ka-thousand bucks mind you just game on it with my 1080TI, i7 6850k rig. It's getting long in the tooth though and haven't changed my coolant in a year and a half (playing with fire, lol). I'll still use the case for my new setup when I upgrade soon.

  • @Amagys
    @Amagys Před 4 lety

    21:28 Those HGST Enterprise 6TB Hard Drives are actually still pretty expensive brand new, even today. Easily over 200 if not 250 for each drive new. Although used you can find them for 150 or so (not sure who the hell would buy used enterprise drives). Considering he has 4 of some of the best in class enterprise datacenter drives, that's actually pretty nice workstation at the time; if not overkill.

  • @sevendouce
    @sevendouce Před 4 lety

    you can make videos just with the garbage people try to sell in my city too man its actually funny

  • @SmokeyDaRoach
    @SmokeyDaRoach Před 4 lety

    Those weren't self tapping screws.. GOSH.

  • @fabians1885
    @fabians1885 Před 4 lety

    I just got a rtx 2080 8gb, an i9 9900K, 32gb RAM and windows 10 installed on ebay for 1100 euros pretty good deal

  • @LowBudgetKiwi
    @LowBudgetKiwi Před 3 lety

    That 6500 buck pc, when they put that much info into the ad, so much info it just confuses people they are hiding something and it's not worth the price

  • @pludough3773
    @pludough3773 Před 4 lety +4

    18:15 never cable Managed my system when i swap case and it still looks better then that mess

    • @johnchristianson515
      @johnchristianson515 Před 4 lety

      I know right, even my noob builds from 20 years ago before I knew about cable management look better

  • @johnodei618
    @johnodei618 Před 4 lety

    Timmy Joe, what can I ask for my PC please, here are the specs:
    -Ryzen 7 1800x
    -Arctic Cooler normal 2 fans(forgoth model)around 50-60 bucks
    -16GB Ram Vengence 3200 Mhz
    -Gigabyte Aorus MoBo x470 Ultra Gaming
    -M.2 SSD 970 EVO 256GB
    -SSD SanDisk 480 GB
    -4 x 1TB WD HDD 2 blue, 2 black
    -Aorus Gigabyte GTX 1070 TI
    -80+ 650W power supply from Enermax
    -Decent secured glass side plannel case with 7 fans from arctic and nice taste RGB (2 stripes like for illuminating interior)-120 bucks case
    Anyone feel free to comment, tnx a lot

  • @michaelgerald3642
    @michaelgerald3642 Před 4 lety

    Theres some VMs that will benefit from having two GPUS that dont have to be the same that way you can pass through the entire gpu rather than splitting it up between the linux machine for example and the windows VM

  • @SomeNameHere
    @SomeNameHere Před 4 lety

    The First PC... even in germany this would be 1100€ and due to supply shortage it would have an 8600K and a RTX2060....

  • @JDpewpew
    @JDpewpew Před 4 lety

    Lol not self tapping screws XD

  • @aggie-hb3nw
    @aggie-hb3nw Před 4 lety

    The last one in a new case .....top,but not for 6500 bucks.

  • @tenshi7angel
    @tenshi7angel Před 4 lety

    And here I was thinking of selling my 4790K and motherboard for a simple $100 bucks with ram included. LOL

  • @joer8854
    @joer8854 Před 4 lety

    I don't know about windows but in Linux you might want to use two different cards so you can play high end games on one at high refresh rates and a TV on the other. The water-block would be an aesthetic choice but I'm still considering doing the same thing but not water cooling the second card. (totally not worth it to push TV in 1080)

  • @tsdobbi
    @tsdobbi Před 4 lety

    Nobody sells their old PC's for what they are actually worth. They know people that know better wont buy, they are hoping to scam the parent/grandparent getting a gaming pc for little Jimmy or Jane.
    As far as people selling "new" builds. Why oh why would someone buy a prebuilt of craigslist when they can get something for the same price from a company with a 3 year warranty. Some people may say "well they have the warranties for the individual parts" my assumption is anyone buying a prebuilt doesn't want to deal with cracking open the PC and taking out parts to RMA then having to reinstall them, themselves. They would end up having to take it to a PC repair shop and paying them to diagnose, trouble shoot etc.

  • @robestey5628
    @robestey5628 Před 4 lety

    1 pic you show - the case is a Rosewill Cullinan from Newegg. Nice case.

  • @ItzMePino
    @ItzMePino Před 4 lety +3

    OMG I'm located in Niagara Falls and I seen this post on Kijiji and literally laugh at it

  • @77craigbishop
    @77craigbishop Před 4 lety

    Our health care system don't work like that lol

  • @braindeadlogan230
    @braindeadlogan230 Před 4 lety

    No
    The samsung watermark is only on if you turn it on in the settings (if you acc think it's a good idea) however its turned off by default. I have a samsung a70- literally just the bigger version of the a50

  • @bradfagan8050
    @bradfagan8050 Před 4 lety

    18:15 That rat said: fuck cable management!!

  • @bryku
    @bryku Před 4 lety

    On linux when using a VM you can dedicate a GPU to it. So you can have 1 monitor using your main desktop and the VM can be on the second monitor.
    Basically having its own GPU while splitting up the rest of the resources (cpu, ram and so on).
    Not sure about windows, but it probably exists, there is a lot of hashing software on linux as well where they use GPUs. Not just hashing, but there is also mining or compiling and rendering. There are also a few programs that you can run some low end AI software by dedicating it to a gpu as well.
    So on linux there are actually a lot of uses for 2 gpus if you have the right software and know how. I doubt that is the case though, they probably would have noted it doesn't come with windows or its a fresh windows install or something a long those lines.

  • @manguy5950
    @manguy5950 Před 4 lety

    The "work of art" PC in my opinion should have been $950 max

  • @dgaming9791
    @dgaming9791 Před 4 lety +1

    R.I.P Kevin from Tech Showdown

  • @2K-Tan
    @2K-Tan Před 4 lety

    Literally makes me want to try and sell my GTX 970 with i5 4670K system for like $1K lmao people are HILARIOUS

  • @amistat6000
    @amistat6000 Před 4 lety

    Awesome... Keep it up... Super hilarious

  • @justauser
    @justauser Před 4 lety

    My rig, 3600x 16gb 3200mhz B450M 2070 super 1TB nvme noctua nhd15 and various other odds and ends, cost me exactly $1,500.64 (Canadian) brand new so I always compare my rig to others and its shocking how much people are asking for absolute junk.
    Well, there's no "bad" PCs*, just bad prices.
    *those hp stream notebooks with 2gb ran, celerons and 32gb emmc flash storage that can barely run windows are an exception. Thoes should not exist or be chromebooks.

  • @AceMcCrank
    @AceMcCrank Před 4 lety +1

    That last listing was likely listing the percentages from UserBenchmark.

    • @puttitat2851
      @puttitat2851 Před 4 lety

      Exactly. But Timmy wouldn't know. :-)

  • @xelm_
    @xelm_ Před 4 lety +1

    i love these videos, i laugh so much.

  • @larrygall5831
    @larrygall5831 Před 4 lety

    Hey Timmy, I grew up in Boston, with some of the best teaching hospitals in the U.S., and seen an awful lot of Canadian plates going in these places. If the health care system up there is so great, why the massive amount of medical tourism from the north? People here have public welfare type medical, but if you have money, no insurance and need help, yeah, you have to pay for your stuff.. otherwise your neighbor has to, and that's not right.

  • @tarzanfixjane
    @tarzanfixjane Před 4 lety

    I will sell a $1000 PC for $1500. You are paying for my cable management, and my tweaking. I have been building PCs since Commander Keen was an inch tall, and jumping on top of things, killed them. My time and effort are worth that extra $500. I think alot of people feel that way too