Training Tips for a Belgian Malinois
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
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This is a shorter Transformation compared with some of the others we've done.
Gunny came to us as a nice young Belgian Malinois who had lots of potential. But he was a touch twitchy. Always wanting to jump, nip, snap, things like that which are common to Malinois.
In this video we focus on and talk a lot about off leash obedience. In fact, within the first few minutes you can see Joe pull out a masterpiece and start getting off leash control within a few minutes of starting the session.
But the reason off leash obedience is so important is because off leash obedience requires a lot of self control on the part of the dog.
When a dog learns self control, that combats twitchiness. They're two opposing forces that don't exist at the same time in the same place.
If you're dealing with this same type of twitchiness, hectic mindset, unused drive, etc in your dog, you'll often find off leash obedience to be very helpful.
Only made it to 46 seconds before checking the comments to see if that music was pissing anyone else off
I wish you would make a video with good audio! There aren't too many Belgian Malinois training videos out there. I might just have to make one myself.
Extremely hard to understand what you are saying with the echo
After 2 minutes I stopped watching because of the annoying music.
Zombie Woof you can barely hear it.
I did exactly the same
Me too
Brutal right
You guys and gals are doing great! I finally found a video that showed me how to correctly handle my belgian malinois german shepherd cross. I watched this video over and over. I trained horses for over 20 years and this shares my own understanding of training animals. I am now practicing this on my guy. Thank you so much!
It's a little hard to hear you over the music
The end result is amazing. I waiting 2 years before I get one. Im saving and researching till then.
I'm a firm believer on not making an emotional purchase with dogs and getting adopted dog out of sympathy. Just buy one with good genetics, this mals genetics are decent but not great in my opinion.
Same I really want one but I understand I am not ready and am researching and saving for the dogs sake I don’t wanna be the guy who says he loves his dog but still doesn’t know how to train or care for the dog till I know I am ready I will get one
@@W_P2 I have one , we got it as a puppy, he became an outdoor dog at 3 months , because he needs a lot of attention indoors, every morning there’s debris everywhere, I take him to walk which is actually like running a 400 meter dash , because he wants to run at full speed for about 2-3 mins straight til he slows down to a good 75% pace where I’m
Able to catch my breath or I just stop and tell him to wait lol .. and for protection , it’s like having a gun, super fast instincts, no fear , he will bite any threat without hesitation, nice loud bark. Oh and he knows how to sit,lay, rollover, give you both paws,speak( bark) , and stay for a short period, working on that last one but it’s tough lol
Can't hear you cause of the music...
Yeah we can obviously agree that the audio is not mixed properly. Other than that the content is useful. If you really need the info, you will listen. Thanks bro
Bravo
I made it to 45 seconds then stopped it. The echo kills it.
It's not even the echo, the music is so loud. If there was no music you could hear everything
Just by the way this dog is walking, It looks like he's starting to have hip dysplasia problems. They normally start to have that problem between 6 to 9 months.
the dog is being trained the focused heel, as opposed to loose leash walking. Malinois are a fairly healthy breed and not especially know for hip problems. What you are seeing is a dog that has very, very high pack drive and desire to work for his owner, and he leans into the leg as part of the heel exercise. This will be corrected later as the formal competition heel is further established. This dog is from a breed with a high desire to work and you're seeing a dog willing to work.
Between the drum beat and echo I can't continue
The music little to loud to down just a tip
6 months old and he/she already wear a teletac??
That is not normal in the Netherlands.
Even by KNPV (education for policedogs).
Watch the movies from Dick Staal.
Whats that a prong collar or choke chain
Hey love the vid. Trying to find a good routine for the dog. Just got him two days ago and I’ve been trying to figure out a schedule because the internet says consistency is key. We’ve been waking up at 5:30-6am and been trying to build a consistent schedule around that. Any tips?
I love that “everything is ok when he’s with me, then he can safely absorb the word”, my malinois gets anxiety 🙏🏻
Where is your training center located?
Would you say the first exercise primarily about building focus, or just practicing the heel? Would that same technique work to build focus in other breeds that don't have the malinois attentiveness?
Training is all about building and maintaining focus. The heel is just leading the dog to the desired position and giving praise when it's reached. It is the easy part when you have their attention.
My English is not very good.. so I'm sorry! But I am very sad.. the dog don't work because he wants to.. he works because he is afraid of the pain of the ecollar! He avoid eyecontact most of the time.. The position of his head and the ears.. it's not beautiful to watch.. at the moment I have only to Malinois.. both of them came to me with big problems.. they where pretty aggressive, the obedience was awful.. but I never needed a ecollar for training! We do Schutzdienst too.. and no.. i am not only working with treats, they get corrections too.. one of them even don't like treats really much.. this dog is only 6 months old? And you need a ecollar for training? Please tell me why.. if I work with my dogs, they look directly into my eyes, the tail is waggly and they work with full enthusiasm.. miss that in your trainingsession..
But maybe you could tell me, why you don't even try it without this collar in Obedience Training :)
Here in my country, if you would start in a competition you would loose much points because of the bodylanguage of the dog..
Waiting for answer and wish you a nice day :)
I train without treats. Praise is all my dog needs.. Dogs that have strong drive tend to be too excitable and anxious. My focus is on maintaining the dog's focus and calm mind so even when praising, it is done in a calm manner. Corrections, by whatever means, are necessary to set boundaries that the dog clearly understands. You cannot correct a bad or dangerous behavior with treats and praise. E-collar if properly used is no different than any other correction. The dog must learn that doing that bad behavior has unwanted consequences. They learn then that the don't want to repeat that bad behavior because they don't want the consequence. I think you miss the point that in this video, there are only two times that corrections are used, when the dog jumps up. There is no indication in the video that the correction was painful. The dog did not shake it's head, yelp or otherwise react like it was in pain. They are not using the e-collar to get obedience, only to correct bad behavior. Obedience comes from the praise and pets that the dog is obviously responding to. They also say they are just starting with this dog, so are willing to not have perfect form for the heel, they simply have the goal of maintaining focus with distractions. This is working dog basic behavior not show/competition behavior, which requires much more refinement.
I don't think your dog was in pain, but it is very clearly that he was very stressful! If dog keeping shaking while follow your comments....What is your dog telling you?
Dogs learn through physical coercian. Period the end. If you cannot relate to that, you ought not work with dogs.
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Mike-Puppy Casey At least somebody gets it! People that don't understand these things about dogs and expect them to magically respond to just the word no will end up with a very rude, easily distracted, and out of control dog. A dog that is allowed to jump at people could easily cause bodily harm and that is unacceptable. It must be corrected. Some people are so overly sensitive about dogs that they think of them and treat them as though they are humans and have the same needs as us physically, emotionally, psychologically etc. They are dogs, and you can't reason with a dog so sometimes correction by stimulation is appropriate for some dogs in some situations. Thanks for your comment 🐶
Hi,, just learning ideas.. because I'll be training a teen dog... any suggestion?? I need ideas ..hehe thank you... the dog is also belgian malinois
I would highly recommend you do your research before making comments about the trainers methods. When he says “e collar” he is referring to the name of the company that makes these collars. This is not a “shock collar”, it is a very carefully administered correction that is the safest and most humane of its kind. If you have never owned a dog with the intensity of a Malinois, you will never understand what this man is doing. The collar is used to send a blunt nudge to a part of the dogs neck that is instinctually known to them as a correction if used properly. If used correctly it is not a punishment for doing something wrong, rather a way to communicate to the dog what you are asking from them. Please go to E Collar Technologies website and educate yourself before yelling shock collar shock collar on every dog training video. This isn’t a golden retriever, this is a whole different level of animal which requires careful and experienced handling.
amen brother if they dont own a mal they should just shut up
I've had 5 Mals. I've used an e-collar (which is, actually, let's call a spade a spade, a shock collar) for off-lead work when there was no other way to communicate with the dog. Not sure why you would use one working on lead in a building. Maybe if there literally was no other way to communicate. But I doubt it. I mean, just give the dog a leash correction if you have to (assuming you have to). There are many other types of corrections you can give without using your hands as well.
@@jerseygirl3428 wrong again not a shock collar unless its 20yrs old.they are tinge units just like a chiropractor would use .
@@johnd3224 no it's most definitely a shock collar. I use one on my dog but don't be foolish as to what it is man. Take your dog's collar, put it on your neck and turn it to its highest level and tell me that is the same feeling you get at the chiropractor from the "TENS" unit. Come on man. When a dog is properly conditioned to the collar you can use very low levels to communicate with it but if a dog like a Mal is spun up in drive and doing bitework and it disobeys a known command that level 8 isn't going to cut it. They go to 100 or 127 depending on brand for a reason and sometimes the situation calls for a firm correction from the collar. Again.. I'm a fan of them and use them but don't pretend its only mild stimulation all the time.
@@kogrady2409 lol
tinge there is no spark no electricity i have worn the collar when i first started with e collars just so i would know what the dog was getting at what level therefore knowing what justified what during bite work or during obedience etc....
please read and educate
hiddenfence.com.au/shock-collars-versus-electrical-stimulation-collars/
My Belgian is 7 months and he really enjoys bitting especially my hand
Jenna Rodriguez you can try to train him not to but just get him chew toys (or bones).
It's happening because he is teething, just like baby's when they teeth they want to bite and chew on stuff.
Hey guess what in 3 to 5 years he'll still biting your hand your knees your foot.. it's their breed they were originally hurding animals. You better have some time to spend with them three to six hours a day. They demand to be exercised they like it fast and hard good luck
Who’s idea was it to add music to a video that has a bunch of echo?
Background music 'd be soft in this video
you guys do some good work, what state are you in?
I have no idea what you are saying...
i wasted exactly 45 seconds of my life.
You guys a clearly death I can hear him just fine lol 😂
DEAF*
The dog seems anxious to please.
Ugh i really want to listen.. the music and echo are brutal....
the music is too loud...your info about the dog would be more helpful if the music volume is lowered down...
Excellent video!
What do you do with a dog that does not look to you very often?!
Work with him and get to know him and form a closer bond
I have a Belgian dog. She is 3 months. She only know how to sit. She come when we called her name. And she knows how to stay while her food is in front of her...
Training is the key. keep building on her training and she can be a very loyal companion. It takes working with her every day. They are people dogs and need a strong leader.
Music is annoying! Sorry but audio is not great with that background music
The Malinois breed the very high-energy dog. There is no changing it has been bred to be a high-energy if you do not have two to four hours a day. For the first four to five years you don't need the dog. Family-wise they will tolerate family. They bite they nip you your family your neighbors. Other dogs it is there breed they were bred to herd. So before you get to looking at these videos and you have to have one. Think hard before you spend 3 to $5,000 on one. You might want to buy labradoodle instead... You don't just buy one and say one this is my pet.. Wrong he Owns you for his life time.. The dog prefers to be with you 24/7
Echo is so bad you can't understand it;
That damn music sux man!
Can’t hear you properly
nice job! it would be nice to know when you're hitting the ecollar button. Are you using continuous mode or momentary, and at what level? I'm training my Mal rescue. she was leash aggressive, and the ecollar solved that problem right away. She still wants to walk too far forward on heel, so would appreciate suggestions.
Mike both you a d the man presenting in this video are pathetic. You hurt your best friend because it's a dog. Just get better at training it. It is not the dogs fault, but yours.
You have no idea what you are talking about. That dog is happy. A correction for jumping up (a potentially dangerous action) is no different when using a lead and collar than using an e-collar set to a low (training) stim level except that when working with the dog, the timing of the correction is more precise with the e-collar then you can achieve with a regular leash and collar at what would be an awkward angle. It does NOT hurt the dog. There is no indication from the dog that he felt any pain and it is no different than a quick tug on the leash. It's just a tool, like a collar and lead, to communicate to the dog a desired behavior or a limit/ unwanted behavior. When training, timing corrections is critical to the dog understanding what you are communicating. If you have a dog in a state of constant high anxiety, that state of mind is what is painful to the dog.
Hey Mike! E collars are great man......just wondering about the heeling..are you still having the problem and are you using a long lead with your e collar for heel training? You may just need a higher correction if hes not staying close enough when u turn. Anyway keep up the good work.
Hi Ian. I totally agree. It's really fun to work at a distance with my dog, either at the beach or in a large park. Having the E collar gives me the confidence that I can get her attention if she can't hear my command or is heavily distracted. At the beach, that can happen quick!! She's a great dog. I'm surprised by the negative comments. I don't think people understand that obedience comes from training, not from the E collar. It's just a tool like a prong collar or slip lead for that matter.
No, higher levels weren't needed. As long as she can feel the collar, that's all that is necessary. It was really my consistency and timing using the collar. She's heeling great. I don't want her quite as close as you see this dog early in the video, she'd be getting stepped on during a long walk, but she's constantly checking in visually. Typically I have her on lead and e-collar when walking, as leash laws here require it. I've been using a bit of a long double handle lead (9') with a traffic handle that's just little too long for a dog at close heel. Typically, I just have the lead attached to the dog and thrown over my neck and don't even touch it with my hand. It's just there if I need it, otherwise it's slack. I should switch to a thinner lighter lead, but laziness prevails ;) What's remarkable in the video is to see how the dog has settled down. Starting out, he was very excitable, and later not so at all. My dog was the same way. This breed has such strong drive, and I think it causes the anxious/nervous clingy behavior. I train without treats, and with minimal touch, as either excites her too much, and I want to keep the switch Off for command obedience, which is mentioned early in the video.
That's great! Yeah the freedom your dog can have when properly e collar trained especially if you live in a city where theres not many areas to take a dog off leash that dont have major distractions. Your point about the training being more important then the tool i think is the real gem to take away, and it's something most ppl just dont get. Treat training can be a great way to start off a young puppy but even then its not necessary. In my experience praise and play training is better then treats any day. I have a new pup at the moment hes a 12 week old pointer pit mix, and with a simple game of retrieve done correctly you can create an awesome drive to please. I commend you for rescuing a Mal and envy the dedication u have to train such a high drive dog! I think that where people really get it wrong is the fact that the positive reinforcements are great for teaching a dog what you want but you need a different form of communication for when you want to teach the things not to do. E collar may be the best tool for this being so non invasive. Check out MasterPaws and rocky the malinois if you havent already...he is a great role model for all dog owners and trainers.
I have no idea what ur saying
it doesn't matter English its about cue of what the dog can do
music background is annoying 😢
Too much distortion on sound echo can't hear
Did I hear birds tripping
Can’t hear anything
can you import any semi adult belgium malinois in india?
Waaaay too much echo.
The prong collar is way to low.
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Lousy sound echo
Too bad I wanted to hear you.
The music is very distracting can’t understand trainer
Damn the audio is TERRIBLE !
What a load of crap.
i m sorry, this video is concerning and unconvincing. the dog also looks like he can t walk normally. what the hell did his owner do to him, he looks messed up.
The music and the background sound is horrible honestly get a mic or do it outside
That dog needs some physical exercise! Very fat :)
Good work with him!
I stopped watching at 3min. VERY ANNOYING AUDIO !!!!
You don’t need the music background while you are talking, so annoying. I couldn’t finish to watch your video
Sorry, but any lazy (so called) dog trainer using a shock collar isn't really worth listening to, despite the shit music. If you taught your children like this you would be locked up. But it's fine to use pain to train your dog?????? Training with fear and not respect
watching it on mute
Horrible to watch!....can´t describe how cowardly it is to dicipline a dog by using shock. Why can`t you use methods like rewarding good behavior instead, like thousands of other dog trainers? That dog look at you in a scared and unsecure way....disgusting!
That dog is not being 'trained by using shock'. It's being trained with positive reinforcement through touch and praise. The corrections are for jumping up.. and It's a great dog.. and settles down great in the later part of the video. Solving the anxiousness is usually about establishing boundaries and expectations.
It’s balanced training which means they reward good behaviors and correct unwanted behaviors. Shock collar you can adjust from 1-100 mostly all dogs are corrected between 6-8, which feels like a light poke with a needle. Prong collars are use till they walk nicely. I only use it on new environment on my dog. You can’t correct unwanted behavior with food. They have to do the unwanted behavior so we can correct it with the right tool so they totally get the message. After a few correction most dogs won’t do it again. It’s very simple.
Would you rather someone get malled by this dog or would you rather it gets trained with any means necessary to ensure the safteu of the people around the dog that want to pet him.
very stressful dog....
His early mlstraining has made him act off of. Adriln with. People
poor dog, he looks as if he has anxiety.
Constant e-collar will do that, don't get why they're using one at all.
Terrible sound
You are obviously clueless as a dog trainer if you are using a shock collar
Yup. I keep hearing people say "yOu NeEd A sHoCk CoLlAr To TrAiN a MaLiNOiS". Bro. No you don't, you just can't communicate 🙄
Horrible Sound!!
😧 that's seem harsh hope you stop using a shock collar can't watch terrible
Hope you did not earn money with that kind of stupid shi...
Is he using a shock collar!! Oh heck no! Stopped watching!
ashlim_ride.or.die no
Disgusting...
I want to train “the trainer” like that.
just stop using e-collars!