About the Sumerian language
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- Sumerian is probably the most mysterious language out there. It's the language of the people who created the first civilization and the first writing system. Or is it? This language was no longer spoken 4 thousand years ago, so we reconstruct it by the small fragments of the past that we find buried under the sands. I'm not solving the mystery of Sumerian here, but I hope I can present to you at least a small amount of what we know about this language for now.
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I have a PhD in Near Eastern Languages, including Sumerian, and when this video popped up I watched it with skepticism. But I was very pleasantly surprised. Julie knows her stuff. In a short video she covers the issues of who were the Sumerians, the writing system, and the structure of the language. Very well done!
Thank you for your comment! I’m pleased to hear that you found it well-made
what was your thesis for getting your phd?
Magadi is the oldest. we can not translate that language to another by doing a simple word-to-word translation. It needs meaning capturing. For example, if the book says Malaya Raja was born by a blue lotus that means a woman with dark skin.
Its Sumari Asura. They came from the current island of Sri Lanka and they were able to fly using simple mechanism and using large birds. Even Syrian, Asirian means sura - asura. There had been waves of migrations because of a volcano eruption.
Can some people check and see if Basque(Bask), Korean, Egyptian hyiroglyph, and Sumerian use almost identical grammar or not? I checked Korean Basque and Egyptian and they have almost identical grammar. I lined Translated Bask with English and translated that English into Korean lined them all 3 up word by word and Bask and Korean have identical words arrangement, which means these 2 have identical grammar. Unless that Bask was translated wrong, I lined Bask with Eqyptian hieroglyph translation done by some youtubers the order of the words arranged to form sentence are almost identical. I would like some brave people who has professional knwledge in language to help check off Sumerian please. According to Korean linguists Sumerian have identical grammar with Korean language. If this is true from what I've checked these 4 languages have almost identical grammar system. I need someone to crosscheck this please.
Skin tone definitely isn't my first thought when I hear "black headed," hair color is. Like, most of you hair is on your head, so if you have Black hair, you're black headed - not saying that's the actual origin, it just seems more intuitive to me than skin tone lol
That's right. It's even clearly visible on one of the statues.
How would that have distinguished them from the people around them?
@@listenup2882 It wouldn't necessarily, as I said, it's just the first thing that would come to my mind, not necessarily a probable origin.
I imagine it as maybe the color of paint they wore. But it doesn't really matter.
This is the southern part of mesopotamia and even today blondes, brunettes
and redheads are in extremely short supply so black hair wouldn't be exceptional enough to use as an identifier. To be honest neither would very dark skin!!
I hold a degree in Linguistics and Languages and I have never seen as beautifully articulated and eloquently stated review❤❤. Outstanding clip! Please make more!!
Hi Julie - I absolutely love your videos! Although professionally I work as a data scientist, my first love is history. Over the last few years, my primary research interests outside of work have focused on cultures in ancient Mesopotamia and Meso-America. It’s wonderful to gain a better understanding of Sumerian and to hear that language brought to life. Thanks so much for what you do, it’s incredibly valuable. ❤
Good job Julie. I enjoyed with the video.
I want to give you 2 names about Kiengir people aka Sumerian and their mythology which is directly connected to todays's religions and myths.
1- Muazzez İlmiye Çığ(She was a part of researches and translations of Sumerian language as a Sumerolog and archivist.) She never puts a comment and manipulates but gives direct trustful info.
2- Prof. Gönül Tekin (University of California, Turkologist and Turkish Literature Lecturer) When you start to listen her you will get amazed cause she is a walking library.
Enjoy!
I just found your channel. A good surprise, indeed. I love to study languages since I was a kid.The way you contextualize all these ancient languages is amazing. A "cultural and sociological background " makes the study much more empiric and intense. Thanks for sharing this knowledge with us. From now on I will start to watch the earlier videos.
Best regards from Brazil.
I have been a student of this region, people's, and archeological sites for decades. Thank you for opening another door into these very ancient times.
The Sumerians were the Atlanteans...with the job of carrying the torch of and for the light...for thy were very spiritual...
Excellent! I found myself drawn to your mention of the Ubaid Culture and went to Wiki to explore; which led me to the life and work of Thorkild Jacobsen "7 June 1904 - 2 May 1993) was a renowned Danish historian specializing in Assyriology and Sumerian literature. He was one of the foremost scholars on the ancient Near East." wiki. I was happy to feel pulled toward and to land on his work "The Harps That Once...: Sumerian Poetry in Translation". Have ordered that book and look forward to receiving soon What a fun learning adventure! Thank you! 🙏🏼
Absolutely love this video and this channel!!! Thanks for the fascinating and important work that you are doing via this platform 😊- cheers!
I've watched many of your language videos! You are amazing in how you are able to be so knowledgeable about so many languages! It's a joy to watch and learn from you! All best in your future language endeavors!
Thank you very much!
@@JuLingo On a practical level; how do you learn and remember all those ancient languages?
@@deborahswart1718she's probably pretty smart and has a natural interest in this subject and probably has been doing for a very long time.
This is surely one of the most thorough discussions of Sumerian for the layperson/amateur linguist. It was easy for me to pause and go over the representations. Thank you.
Thank you for this and your other similar videos. I love learning about our history, language, religions, structures and more. We have lost so much through the years. What would our collective memory look like had we not erased or lost so much over the millenium. Thank you for studying these most important details and bringing them back to life. I love your love for history. 😊
Imagine a civilization so old, the locals didn't even know about it for thousands of years
Imagine they found out the civilasation bevore was their „Makers“and thats why they all have dark hair and Blue or green eyes?
Thank you the locals didn't know coz then item where planted there by colonial master after they stole it from Nigeria and other African country. Ur is still in southern Nigeria and the people still live there
@@94Kamani WE WUZ KANGZZZ
𒅋𒋫𒄠𒋢𒌝𒊏𒊏𒋗𒌒𒋾𒂊𒆷𒋾𒅎
Sumerian has a close relationship with Kurdish, for political reasons. It is said that it has nothing to do with the region, which is incorrect
I would love to see you do more on Sumerian. Wonderfully done! Thank you!
Thanks Julie. This is very well done and fascinating.
Thank you a lot for this amazing video! I know it is been a long time since you posted this video, but here I am appreciating it.
I was looking for good content at Google Chrome about the Sumerian civilization and then I searched up about it in CZcams, too. Gladly I found your channel and your amazing video. I'm amazed, really!
Very insightful, Juli! And Basque again, of course 😅 Thank you, can't wait for the next one!
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I've only just discovered your channel and I'm thrilled because you focus on lesser-known or "smaller" languages. As far as your language skills are concerned, you are the complete opposite of me. I've been trying to learn English with varying degrees of intensity for 45 years and I still can't do it properly.
I watched this not knowing what to expect. I thoroughly enjoyed this presentation and your expertise. Your Bengal at the end was why I subscribed. I had a Bengal years ago that I raised from a kitten. His name was Genghis Khat (Genghis for short). He was 20% Asian spotted leopard and he was my best friend. I have never shared my life with a more intelligent, graceful, athletic or amazing animal in my life. He had a penchant for language, too, and I had to be careful what I said around him (for instance, he focused on the 'k' sound in the word 'milk', but he would also hear the word 'fuck' as 'milk', which made for some confusing and memorable moments). He lived to be 18 years old and remains as one of the finest souls I have ever known.
Fantastic and informative! Thank you so much!
As I read the comments, I can see I am not the target here. I am not particularly bright so am not an academic. I watch these types of videos knowing that many of the finer points are going to be over my head and will probably remain so. I watch these types of videos because I am fascinated by language in general and in other cultures. These videos give me a "big picture" understanding that I am not sure I can put into words, but yet somehow meaningful to me.
I said all that just to say thank you.
Thank you so much for this introduction to Sumerian. I am a huge fan of the Gilgamesh Epic and have long been interested in this fascinating people from which many of our cultures may have sprung and, in many cases, absolutely DID.
I am a big fan of the Epic it's the oldest known text yet so modern. If you are interested in learning more about ancient languages check this czcams.com/play/PLaINFseE0hFoBeXjYaWWM3uCXjTGl_G3E.html
Not just the cultures, but many peoples also partially comes from them. They didnt die out.Their latest apperance is under the name of Hunnic empire and Attila.
Nice to see a fellow Gilgamesh enjoyer
Hungarians are also Turkish. Hun Turks.
Do you know the meaning Anu in Sumerian language?
This was really a masterful presentation, and while I am an amateur in the relevant fields,, is plain that Julie does her homework. I can't blame her for not knowing what nobody knows, and I'm left with a hunger to get involved in archaeology in that area. Solving the question of where the Sumerians came from would be a magnificent accomplishment, and finding earlier clues about their language would be just as much of an accomplishment.
On top of the dictionaries the Akkadians used to teach their scribes Sumerian, there are a fair number of loan words from Sumerian in the language, which helped with piecing the language together considering we have been replicating it from being only able to use second hand sources. Languages affect each other, and I wouldn't be surprised if a fair number of words from Sumerian show signs of having to be fit into the language's etymology from other ones.
I do find it interesting that you bring up the theory that the Sumerians may not have been the first culture to develop writing, merely the first one to leave an extensive written record. Which, actually wouldn't be surprising. There are a number of proto-writing systems that predate them, after all. The Ubaid people, who are considered to be the ones first there, probably got it started, but the Sumerians refined it. Again, nothing that actually contradicts history, the Sumerians are liable to retain the credit simply because writing figured so heavily among them.
Thanks a lot for this one ! It's always a pleasure to learn new things about something we already (but partially) know.
We need a part 2 on the sumerian language! I was craving for more examples and the sounds from full phrases!
I'm surprised she didn't mention another hypothesis of summerian origins, which is that they came from the Arabian Peninsula, and I believe its true because the Arabian Peninsula was not as it is now, and there are evidence for that based on drawings on rocks showing elephants and other animals that lived there when it was green. When it started to dry people migrated to north arabia to the Levant and mesopotamia to create one of the oldest and greatest arab civilizations. But because most scholars of aincent mesopotamia are western orientalist, they like to ignore this hypothesis.
@@HardCore_Islamist most likely the sumerians came from the now drowned persian gulf
@@greguir They might came from multiple places as they had wandered to everywhere as they were disappeared.
I agree would love to see a video 2. If you are interested in learning more about ancient languages check this czcams.com/play/PLaINFseE0hFoBeXjYaWWM3uCXjTGl_G3E.html
Learn kurdish .To understand sumerian..
Thanks for sharing Jule, some text you shared is my ancient lingua franca in Southeast Asia, our ancestor came from ancient middle east thousand years back. Interesting sharing ! keep it up
I have been a longtime student of Near Eastern history and culture, and I was quite blown away by the fact that you were able to pack so much factual information in such a short video. Often, videos by CZcams creators leave me disappointed and sometimes angry at their miscomprehension and sometimes misrepresentation of history. You did none of that! I am impressed, and you have a new subscriber!
Actually going from a sound to a sound is really common especially through an intermediary and has happened in Swedish, French, and countless other languages.
For example (Latin>French)
Caballus -> Cheval
/k/ /ʃ/
I’d say almost every language I know of or heard of. K,g followed by vowels like i and e easily palatalizes. E.g. Peking -> Beijing, and the famous Caesar
Palatalization 🤷🏻♀️
sumers was not usin your indo-eu languages and we found similarities with only 1 language in the world kengir is a clan and plant name in turkish
comparisons between Latin (and its cognates) and Sumerian are not very apt.
Nor is there actually a reason to think up a process by which Kingir became S(h)umer. They are names in very different languages and such can be very different, compare French Allemagne, English Germany, German Deutschland.
I have been interested in Sumerian for many years. I appreciate your contribution to my knowledge on the subject.
انا سومري 🇮🇶
. Tower of Babel dispersion results. Chinese had both same word for God "Di" as in "Shang Di" -"Most High God" and sacrificial system (Emperor sanctifies himself then sanctifies blameless sheep which is slaughtered for sins of the people. The sons of Noah spread out N and NW Japheph. West and SW Ham. Shem some went north. They carried their faith in the one true God with them. Shem-Semitic S=SH ex ashur probably Syria. As they fled north look ar age geography Feghana valley leads to Turin Valley leads to Altai mountains. Lots of people groups in China and Thailand/ Myanmar say they originated at the Altai mountains. Altai means golden in Mongolian. This leads to the Heixi corridor and one of the most fertile places on earth-which they all fought over. The losers went south Hmong, Mon, Lisu, Tai etc.By the way all these speak tonal languages. Altaic languages are agglutinative SOV languages like modern day Turk languages. I don't believe the video is more than 70 % correct nevertheless they are right about the differentiation of Tonal and Agglutinative language origin. The Dene-Yenisarian soup that crossed the ice bridge was both Tonal and Agglutinative. A tribe of them the "New Pearse" had stories of the Creator and the flood and questioned Lewis and Clark for the "Book of God"
I'm surprised she didn't mention another hypothesis of summerian origins, which is that they came from the Arabian Peninsula, and I believe its true because the Arabian Peninsula was not as it is now, and there are evidence for that based on drawings on rocks showing elephants and other animals that lived there when it was green. When it started to dry people migrated to north arabia to the Levant and mesopotamia to create one of the oldest and greatest arab civilizations. But because most scholars of aincent mesopotamia are western orientalist, they like to ignore this hypothesis.
Well, thank you you tube for throwing this before my eyes !! What an enjoyable video. Great presentation and very interesting content. Subscribed, and thanks :)
I finally became a patron. Wanted to do it since long...really not much at all, the minimun basically since I am not working. But needed to support your exceptionally enlightening and interesting dedication to such a subject so connected subtly to Human evolution, Anthropology, psychology and things like that. Plus, I just love how evidently cultured and sophisticated you are, aside from being exceptionally attractive or beautiful also, and that with all my owed respect.
Love it. Languages are my obsession. Currently studying an Arawakan language called Garifuna. Keep it going.
any suggestion on how to find material to study the lesser known languages?
@@valeriobenedetti7791 community groups. In my area there is a group studying ladino. A Sephardi group. Ask anyone about their language and you can't get them shut up. Failing that, CZcams videos. That is how I learned Portuguese and Yoruba. Some of the software language programs are incorporating the more obscure languages. I maybe wrong but Rosetta stone may have added Haitian creole. Ancient languages? There are Assyrian and Kurdish community groups. Oh add Mayan and Aztec to the mix. Be careful with Aztec. It has now become the language of the cartels. Hope that helps.
I thought garifuna was african infused language made up of various african languages brought by the slave trade to central america?
@@lyssanch3096 almost no African words in Garifuna. The escaped slaves mixed with the local carib Indians. The Africans were mostly male. The mothers were Carib or kalinago. Children learn language from the mother. Subsequent generations spoke Carib. The only African word in Garifuna is baba. For father. Another theory is that the Africans spoke many different languages. So the kids used Carib as a common language. If you listen to Garifuna you will hear how the Caribbean sounded before the arrival of Columbus. There are parts of central America where you will hear Garifuna, Maya and misquito spoken alongside each other.
@@cristobalvalladares973 thanks a lot! I hope to find some of those community groups in my areas too then
I loved this "episode". So interesting! Thank you.
Thank you!
@@JuLingo The key for sumerian is the hungarian.Learn hungarian and You will be happy 😉
I learned Sanskrit for several years and now, I am taking on the challenge teaching myself Sumerian. Keep up the good work. You are doing a wonderful job!
How do you study sumerian?
consider this (from the perspective of the bible...im not a christian or jew what so ever) the fall of the tower of babylon....god gave speak confusion...not many diferent new languiges. whit other words we still speak the same one and only languige broken down true time whit new meanings other forms of speaking out the same words (expecially by sound!!!) the old netherlands (dutch) version is the closed to the sumerian languige....i used it to decifer the languige all over the world and possible even beyond this world (either alien or more of the spirits/angels what ever you want to call them) it is not the letters it is the sound the frequentie....and to qoute jezus from the bible in this case....speaking is silver silence is gold ;)
@@gilnopvariko a-dam can't do it
Keep doing. When Anunaki return to our world you'll be my translator 😃
@@christophrs6930 oh yes they can as the first human couple; one male & one female birthed from the dust/aphar as clay aka adamah in Hebrew and shaped by YHWH by His own "hands" and brought to life through His "breath"/ ru'akh.
Thank you for sharing this important ancient knowledge.
Great insight. I was hoping the episode was longer. Any how thank you for this video my birthplace is 19 Miles East of Uruk and History ! is in my blood. going to check out the other episode's keep up the good work !!
I recently read a hypothesis that only largely monosyllabic languages could get the idea of writing off the ground because the rebus principle is easier for such languages, and that principle is essential to get enough "difficult" words depicted to get started with sufficiently full speech transcription
Egyptian & Mesoamerican languages kinda throws a wrench into that hypothesis though. There are enough major exceptions that I'm not sure I completely buy that.
@@bustavonnutz The hypothesizer said Mayan was largely monosyllabic. And even though hieroglyphs and cuneiform are visually dissimilar, the hypothesizer (and me) finds it incredulous that the _idea_ of writing itself would spring up independently in such close proximity among people who interacted all the time.
("The hypothesizer" is Peter T Daniels)
@@muskyoxes Writing was originally symbolic & not necessarily any real reflection phonemically of what was being visually presented to the reader. Logographic systems seem to be among the oldest forms of writing we find; however, syllabic writing systems only emerge once sound associations are made to specific & widely recognizable characters. The idea that representing sheep with a crude but passable sketch of a sheep is somehow correlated with monosyllabism smells kinda funny to me.
@@bustavonnutz It's the next step that's crucial. Using the sheep symbol for concepts related to sheep but pronounced differently, and using the sheep symbol for words pronounced the same but meaning something entirely different. It's the latter that is argued to be aided by monosyllabic language
Sincere thanks and praise for your beautiful presentation of the history of the Summians and the theories that have been presented regarding their origin. I am writing an opinion as a professor of the cuneiform writings at the Faculty of Archeology of the University of Kufa. I have worked for more than twenty years in the field of archaeological work in the Iraqi General Authority for Antiquities and Heritage. I died during my studies and my knowledge of the results of excavations. Scientific archeology I can confirm that the Sumerians were the ones who started civilization in northern Iraq. They painted and expressed their fear of animals on the walls of caves. They discovered agriculture. They domesticated animals and trimmed stones. Because of the climatic conditions and their changes, they arrived in southern Iraq, bringing with them the slave civilization that was invented. In the north of Iraq, especially since the pottery of slaves was discovered in all regions of Iraq from north to south, this is first and second, the movement of the sons of Iraq from north to south due to the deterioration of living conditions, and the current situation confirms this.. Greetings to fantastic what was presented through this wonderful video .. Prof. Dr. Fatima Abbas Salman
Hi Juli! It's the first time I've watched one of your videos, and first of all, I feel compelled to say that you are undeniably beautiful. 🙂 Secondly, as a non-native English speaker and a native Spanish speaker from Argentina (although I prefer using neutral Spanish), I wanted to express my gratitude for your accent. Thanks to your accent, I was able to understand almost 97% of what you said without needing to pause the video or look up the meanings of words to understand what you're saying... It's truly impressive! I loved that because I usually don't understand English-speaking CZcamsrs well, but with you, I had no problem at all. Maybe for you, understanding English is not surprising, but for me, being able to comprehend without relying on translators is a great achievement... Usually, when I watch videos in English, I struggle to understand or follow the conversation.
Thank you once again for making it so accessible and enjoyable! I wish you all the best and continued success with your channel.
Thanks from Kazakhstan,very interesting to watch!
Great video as usual !
Nonetheless, I'm surprised to hear you explaining that the diachronic mutation "from k to sh" is very unusual. On the contrary, I love diachronic linguistic and it turn out that evolution from velar to post-alveolar (or retroflex and palatal) consonants is pretty common. This relationship can been seen even in well-known Indo-European languages such as French or Spanish. Thus, the Latin voiceless velar stop consonant ["k"] led to a voiceless post-alveolar fricative ["sh"] in French, even before the back vowel "a" (ex : château < castellum, cheval < cabellus, etc). Symmetrically, Spanish saw what was its voiced post-alveolar fricative ["zh"] to be understood more easily by English speaking people) became a voiceless velar fricative ["ch" as in LoCH Ness], hence the current pronunciation of the spanish letter "j" ("la jota").
Perhaps she means - in the indoeuropean linguistics, as we know the dychotomic division into "kentum, and "satem" languages?
also, in Gulf Arabic dialects (especially the dialect of the UAE) they pronounce the letter kaf (K) as sh when it's at the end of words
You are right, to be honest I don’t know how I didn’t think about it… I’ll do a bit of investigation and maybe add some corrections in the description. Thanks for pointing out!
Hioroglifes 7 mil ans avant Jésus fictif in nubie and plus récente recently nubie peuple in Mésopotamie ( hiéroglyphes nubiens = animaux, faune and flore et cunéiformes the same and stylé)
In 1970s? 80s?, in California, US
at college I spoke, to an Iranian
student, who knew of, or personally knew, people who claimed to be. from Sumer
royal family, who lived in Iran
(during Shah's period). Does, that
family, still exist ? The probably
know everything about Sumer!!!
Let us hope that they are still.alive somewhere and see willing to talk
and write (and produce own youtube channel ? Even in Farsi it
would certainly attract attention,
in English it would be a phenomenon, as Mid E and W
historians, UFOlogists (Anunaki
connection) etc. all would want
to ask so many questions !!!
July, I am no linguist so I am totally unqualified to comment this but was totally fascinated, your capacity for synthesis is great and I love the fact you dress differentyl for each video according to the language you are introducing, so creative I love interactive history! Now I am asking you a question i which may be very dumb or not but I won't know until I have done sufficient research on it. I am studying the Tarim mummies and those nomadic confederations in the territory of today Xinjang, that’s just above Tibet. I was watching this video as I wondered if they could provide a missing link between such wide distances, I also thought the same, how curious are some words similarties (Sky, Tien) it could not be a coincidence. The “Caucasian” looking mummies, whose oldest samples were ANE, did travel southwards in several directions, including Bactria and Mesopotamia. There are several cultural and symbolic features in their mysteric and secret cult-related traditions which find parallel in several eastern (e.g. Hinduism) and middle eastern’s, including the spiral dances, their solar and lunar and celestial worship too. Could there be a link between these peoples? I am not far enough in my research to say but would be curious to know what you think.
Fantastic, I am starting my journey to explore our ancient ancestors. . Your video was fascinating, thank you 👍👍
Absolutely fascinating. I am a simple lay person with a fascination for languages. I really speak nothing but American English, but your presentation and understanding of such an ancient language held me transfixed throughout your entire production.
I could sit and listen to you for hours every day.
I've researched for a very long time the Sumerian and other ancient languages of the Mesopotamian region and can confidently say you did one of the most balanced and informative videos on Sumerians I've ever seen. This video is definitely the best introduction available for those that want to get dive into that topic. I have on big tip: You said that Tamil wasn't seen as similar to Sumerian, but in my experience most linguistic researches on those ancient tongues do not really disclose or try at all discovering the "remnants" of ancient languages in modern ones. I have no idea about Tamil, but am 99% sure that many Sumerian words, or specifically Elamite words, still exist in it till today. Elamites were known to have been ruled at some point by a seafaring dark skinned people that attacked the Sumerian cities. I know from my own researches that Sumerian words and special grammatical features still exist in different Kurdish dialects. Even though the grammar and words are so different, sometimes one can make out full phrases that exist exactly the same in Kurdish. Such as "murani gir" for "He did a heroic deed". Kurdish linguists also created dictionaries proving that at least a thousand words still are used, but aren't famous.
So anybody that wants to be a Sumerologist or expert in ancient languages, then my tip is to speak with the local natives and listen to their knowledge.
Well, I guess Sumerians had a BIG influence on every civilization they were in contact with, and those who came later, as Sumerian was the language used by clergy and kings, like Latin.
Kurd is very close to Median, which was an active civilization in the later stages of the New Babylonians. About Dravidic, of which Tamili is a branch, it is still today present in eastern Afghanistan form where most precious stones and copper was coming. There are also serious hints that Harrappa and other Indus river civilization were a Dravidian culture, which explain how many words were borrowed from there due to commerces across the Iran coast.
Even in Finnish and Scottish peoples use many sumerian words. It was a great civilization with huge effect.
There is over 400 words and very similar grammatic as in ural-ugriche languages. Finnish, Komi, Mary, Modvians, Hungary and so on....
Simple question. Is Zecharia Sitchin's translations correct or not? Plain and simple.
Altaic is the origin of Indo European languages, Sumerians are "Turks", Australian Aboriginals, Native American Indians, Dukha (Turks), EskiMongol, Korean Japanese share an Altay Ancestor. Altay is the origin of the human species to have come out of Africa. There won't be many local natives left in the middle east, most people there don't even have the Asian epicanthic fold anymore and very Indo European now.. Even people think Scythians are Iranic people because they mixed in syria, Iraq and Iran..
Hi, I just wanted to say how much I love all your videos, and even my sister, who is not as generally interested in linguistics as I am, also really enjoys your videos too!
I was also interested in what you had to say about the origins of the Sumerian language, in that it seemed so different to its neighbours. The Persian/Arabian Gulf was below sea level until only a few thousand years before the arrival of the Ubaid culture and then Sumeria. Because, at that time, much of the Sahara and Middle East would have been somewhat cooler, the Gulf region would have also been very fertile and may have supported a large population - when this region flooded, a lot of its inhabitants would have fled north into what became Mesopotamia.
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It's called the Arabian gulf
@@zeldanah9579 lol 😂 you saying it your self “clay tablet” Ashurbanipal library 📚
@@light9205 since when?
I'm very glad that I've found your channel just now and will have a look at all these various bunch of almost unknown languages. Congratulations, and affectionate regards to your cat;-))
THANK YOU FOR GIVING YOUR KNOWLEDGE!
Hi Julie,
Your question at 1:38 as to how a 'K' becomes an 'Sh' (or 'Ch') is easy to answer.
A very typical and widely practiced pronunciation in many countries in this region (most prominent in Iraq, Jordan, Palestine, and parts of Syria) is to pronounce a 'K' or 'C' as an 'Sh' or 'Ch'.
Thus, Canada is pronounced Chanada or Shanada (Tshanada) and Kuwait is pronounced Chuwait or Shuwait (Tshuwait), although it is usually closer to the hard sound of 'Ch' rather than a flat soft 'Sh'.
Keefak (which means How are You?) is pronounced Cheefak. More accurately, it is pronounced like a hard 'Ch', as Tcheefak.
The Tch here comes out somewhat like an 'Sh'.
I speak many of these languages, and accents. I hope this helps.
Hi Jamal. You've explained that it is common, but you haven't actually answered WHY there was a shift in pronunciation. As she said, it's very unusual. So, do you have any idea as to WHY these pronunciations changed?
@@tigermunky
Hi Li,
I only have a guess, as I am not an expert. I speak those accents, but haven’t studied them. And, I sincerely believe that Julie, and probably yourself, are more skilled to come up with a more scientific answer.
My guess is that there was a change in demographics which lead to the prevalence of a population that used Sh/Tch/Ch instead of a C/K.
It would be similar to the story of the word Ebriq (kettle), which ends with a Q in Arabic. Q is one of the hardest phonetics and most difficult to master for non-Arabic natives.
Therefore, when the Turks ruled the region and took the word Ebriq, they changed the pronunciation of that Q to a K, as they found it difficult to pronounce the word with the original Q. The Turkish alphabets contain no Q, and you can see that it goes from LMNOP straight to RST.
In our example, my guess is that it was initially practiced as a C/K by some tribe/s which used the C/K pronunciation, but another population/tribe that used the Sh/Tch/Ch pronunciation came into the limelight and influenced all pronunciation. We have seen this occurring in history many times over and over again.
This is just a wild guess, based on no science or history that I can refer to.
By the way, I once read that this very same Ebrik (Brik) word is what was later taken by Europe and ultimately became barracks in English. I don’t know how correct this barracks claim is, though it is somewhat interesting to delve into.
The roots of languages, and their so many accents, are indeed perplexing. I follow the subject as a mere interest, surely not as a specialty.
@@jamalsaleh6551 I love your answer. ❤ It certainly sounds logical enough. I mean, I have no idea either (which is why I asked if you could explain), but I think shifting populations makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
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Hi Jamal. Just like in Romanian Ce faci?, - How are you, what are you doing? Pronounced ch instead of c. Latin loanword or vice versa?
It's great to see that Juli has discovered the Iron Law of CZcams, which is known to apply throughout the galaxy. This law is even more powerful than the "You Will Recieve a Copyright Strike for any Conceivable Reason" law. It states: "any video, from any creator, on any topic, at any time is automatically improved with the addition of a cat." The effect is further enhanced if said cat is beautiful, as in this case. Kitty should be a guest star imo.
He has a very busy schedule but I’ll try to get him to participate more!
The Obadiah Alliance Sephardic Jewish Rabbinical Court issued an Official court ruling that the Igbo people are descendants of the ancient Israelites.
@@secondexodus9105 so what 🤣
@@piked261 so ... If they are Israelites, anyone with Igbo ancestry genetically will also be Israelites. African Americans have significant Igbo ancestry
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Great video, a lot of in-depth information.
Thanks for the video. It could also be pointed out that the word "sar" is still with us in astronomy. The "Saros Cycle" for measuring eclipses derives from the word, albeit via a mistaken understanding of the words original meaning.
There are some theories, that the Sumarian language has connection with the Hungarian language. I wouldn’t like to go into the details of pros and cons of the argument, but two interesting things I would like to mention:
The names of many Sumarian towns has meaning in Hungarian and even there are some towns or villages or places in Hungary today with the same (or very similar) names.
The Sumarians only we call Sumarians, but they called themself Maghars. And the Hungarian call themself Magyars.
They do not call themselves Maghars. Who said this ? They call themselves Kengers or Kangars. About Hungarian language, I agree that there is a relationship in ural-altay based language and sumerians.
I am watching the video second time. Very very informative for me. Thank you.
Julie is the best. I love here language videos very informative. Tankz Julie 😀
Thank you! Very interesting! 💥💥💥
Thank you my friend ☺️
1977 - KÁLMÁN GOSZTONYI, professor at the St. Michael’s College in Paris, with the financial support of the French government, published his book: Összehasonlító szumir nyelvtan, (Comparative Sumerian Grammar) and stated that from 53 Sumerian grammatical characteristics, 51 are identical to the Hungarian, for example:
a) The adjective is singular, the noun is plural e.g. jó emberek
b) The interrogative pronouns and numerals can have a possessive suffix. E.g. Mi-d van? Az én tíz-em.
c) Nouns may be in singular or plural. E.g. kéz, kezek. Juh, juhok.
d) The same word can indicate both genders. E.g. ember, gyermek, testvér
e) An independent verb can create a sentence by itself. E.g. Fáj.
Besides the grammar, he presented, from the collection of cuneiform signs of Labat, Árpád Orbán’s new methods of dating and, with this, he examined 93 Sumerian words.
1980 - BÉLA OLÁH, an independent researcher, in his book: Édes magyar nyelvünk szumir eredete, (The Sumerian Origin of our Sweet Hungarian Language) states the following identities:
1. The Hungarian vowels and consonants are completely identical to the Sumerian.
2. Vowel harmony is present in both languages.
3. Words may not begin with two consonants.
4. Both languages are agglutinative.
5. They do not distinguish gender.
6. The Hungarian verbal suffixes are more developed than the Sumerian.
Helyes!
a magyarok eredetet mindig elfelejtik megemliteni
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Mert a hivatalos magyar álláspont mindig is tagadta az igazságot. Legalább 150 éve ezt teszi. Ameddig ez így lesz és ez alapján készítenek műsort vagy írnak könyveket addig ez nem nagyon fog változni. Pedig egyértelmű a kapcsolat. Ezt már bebizonyította a nyelvészet, régészet és legújabban az archeogenetika is.
Thank you so much. I am fascinated by Sumerian culture and have been reading and reflecting on their stories of Innana and Erishkegal. Following you now!
Thank you for that video. Very fascinating.
I remember when I first became interested in the Mesopotamian languages. I was maybe 10 and saw this Akkadian or Babylonian writing in the background scenery of a video game I was playing and I remember thinking "that language looks pretty metal". Since then I've been interested in languages and history. Thanks for the vid.
Africa first CIVILIZATION
@@marcossealey8612 No, that wasn't the video game. Never played Civilisation. Any good?
@@mitchellhayward6492 Ur CONFUSED about Ur history.. Mesopotamia was An African COLONY..Ur History CRO MAGNON Starts in the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE 😳 Ural Mountains fringes of SIBERIA. Remember when Africans came into Europe 😏 There was Nobody there.The QUESTION then Becomes..Where Do white people come from😳
Cool video! I'm obsessed with all aspects of ancient mesopotamia!
Fascinating and informative. Lovely presenter as well.
Thank you. I have always. Been intrigued by the Sumerians because they are so early in human history.
I am Assyrian and we speak Aramaic but some of us still know how to read, write and speak Sumerian. Our flag has the Star of Shamash on it, its Sumerian deity exactly as shown on 1:00 in the middle of the tablet, but we use white, blue and red colors because thats what Sumerians painted interior of their palaces.
no as Turks claim sumerians are turk :)))))))
@@aramokurdo They can claim all they want but its not true. Thats why they attempted the genocide in 1915 to steal indigenous people land and to claim the culture as their own. You talking to an Assyrian not a westerner who doesnt know history of middle east. We know everything they did, and everything you Kurds did too.
@@aramokurdouh oh. No response?
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You are Arab Semites and not Sumerians who look like Dravidians and speak an agglutinative language. First among the Sumerians there were other ethnic groups that did not belong to their group.
@@Sariel555 Chaldean people from irak spek aramean, language of Jesus!
Thanks by this explanations. It was my first time on your channel. I liked it a Lot.
Greetings from Jalisco, México.🤠
This was very interesting thank you
1932 - EDGAR CLEMENT, German linguist, was so impressed by the musicality of the language that he learned Hungarian. According to him, the Hungarian language had a magical strength, which reflected a deep spirituality and only the highest ranking languages, especially the old classical languages could match up to it.
1939 - GÉZA BÁRCZY, member of the Hungarian Academy of Science, discovered the 5000 year-old Sumerian suffixes and proved that they were identical to the Hungarian suffixes.
1940 - Sir LEONARD WOOLLEY, English archeologist and linguist, excavated the Sumerian city, Ur of the Chaldees. He found 400,000 clay tablets, which were covered with linguistic material. He made a glossary and deciphered a large number of texts for the Institutum Biblicum in Rome, among them a six volume Sumerisches Lexicon, in which he deciphered 4,000 words.
National Geographic published a book in the eighties called "Splendors of the Past". In there was a reference to Sumer language as "it is similar to Turkish and Hungarian but otherwise unrelated." Hm.
11:22 5+x numbering system like khemer, base 10 & base 60 coexist
Magyar did maketh me come here today. 🪷
The TurkoMongols mongrels are not Summerians
An entire Sumerian literature about the supreme Goddess Inanna, including 3 poems by Enheduanna (priestess, daughter of Sargon the Great, and earliest named author) exists. Flood story, Eden, and Her decent to the underworld werein she is stripped, beaten, killed, hung on a peg to rot, miraculously revived, and returned to earth transformed.
edit: quoted Betty De Shong Meador
A real day brightening kind of story.
Gee, something about that story sounds so familiar especially that part about someone dying and reviving but for christsakes I can't remember the name 🤔
@@Iknowknow112 Hey Zeus?
Inanna is not the supreme goddess of Sumerian religion and she doesn't appear in any flood story - she appears in the Gilgamesh epic but in a different section. Eden might be related to a Sumerian word for steppe but it doesn't appear in the sense of paradise.
Awesome overview. Thanks!
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Thank you for this great video.
Is the "eme gir" related to the Magiar?
Great stuff. I was trained in academic philosophy. I am currently researching 5thC Byzantium, the origins of Western jurisprudence, and generally find the physical struture of languages fascinating. Pictorial languages rock. I love your video.
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Crusader inquisition mentality, I admire your ignorance.
How do you not know the world's number 1 Sumerologist, Muazzez İlmiye Çığ? How can you not know?
The languages of the Sumerians belong to the Proto-Turkish language family. Sumerians are Proto-Turkish.
Words in Sumerian, Etruscan, Scythian and Ancient Egyptian languages and dialects are the same or similar to thousands of words used in Native American languages. Today, it is stated that the origins of these words are Persian, Hebrew or Latin. How do words that Native Americans have used for thousands of years become Hebrew, Latin, Scottish, Irish or Persian? The answer to this question is very simple.
Sumerians, Scythians and Etruscans transferred their languages and cultures to their geography. Sumerians gave many words to Hebrew, Arabic and Persian. Etruscans gave many words to Latin. Scythians (Scythians=Sakas= Saxons) transferred many words to Western Europe and the Scottish archipelago.
Native American languages, Scythian, Sumerian and Etruscan languages are in the PROTO-TURKISH language group.
For this reason, many words are the same or have great similarities between Native American languages, European languages and Middle Eastern languages.
Since the languages of these states are in the proto-Turkic language group, these nations are Proto-Turkish.
You can reach results very easily with analytical thinking.
Im interested in Sino-Tibetan language Family. Despite it is the second biggest language family and has been studied for many years, it still has many myths.
1. How does each Sino-Tibetan language related ?
2. Where is the urheimat, or where did it come from?
3. Classification problem
4. When did Proto ST split into Proto Sinitic and Proto Tibeto Burman?
aryans dear large vasta area sino tibetans scityians iranic south est asia ,middle east
sanskrit is iranic arya avestan aramaic dialect paleo siriac cirus comkered assiria siria aramaic paleo siriac they tongue assiro iranic avestan
See my giant realistic map of the Far East for Age of Empires 2. The other day, I used Spain to help them against the Turksih invasion. The Turks got as far as Xian. From Luzón, I was allowed into China to build an army and take Tibet and Afghanistan from the enemy. Meanwhile, the Chinese genocided Korea and Mongolia. Fun times.
You know that Sino-Tibetan is bullshit right?
Julija I love your channel! I have to admit that my knowledge of Sumerian language is limited to "LUGAL" ("King") and "NINDA" ("Bread"), and this is all because of my interest in Nesili, the language of the Hittites. Have you done a video on Nesili yet?
Lies
@@marcossealey8612 WTF!
@@gaufrid1956 FACTS over Feelings 💯
Fun fact: you can dissect "LUGAL" even further and add two new words to your vocabulary: LU (man) and GAL (great). It's written with those signs, so literally it means great man :)
a third word really stuck with me when i was leafing through a sumerian dictionary: zišurru, a ritual salt circle
I enjoyed the Vid great. Work👍
Thank you JuLingo😊
Great video, thanks! And an awesome way to explain the ergative case. For any nominative language user this makes it easier to grasp it.
Interesting! Can you please highlight on my Edo language, precisely the Bini language from Benin-City, Edo state, Nigeria.
We were once the Ancient Benin Empire.
Our Bronze and Brass artworks are famous. Thank you! 🙏🇳🇬
Yes, saw your amazing nations's ancient metal works highlighted recently. An interesting story, a hard nut to crack for the colonialists because of the strong unity of the small kingdom used to defending itself well over centuries through superior tekne [technique=art in Ancient Greek]!
@@eeemotion thank you!
Very interesting topic and very interesting question. Sumerians are Nigerians and we are black if you choose to call us that. Give us what you stole and we will tell you what it means
That's the message i sent to presenter of the documentary. We are still chatting till now.
If you know any so called scholar contact them and lets have a conversation on who the real people of ancient Sumer. The founder of the third dynasty of Ur is from Edo state
Very good explanation, thanks a lot!
Wonderful channel
I really admire your level of knowledge on language and history. Awesome job!
Julie, I would love to encounter someone like you at a dinner party and talk to them all night. I’m a first language Welsh speaker and am passionate about it. However, it’s important for all of us to consider the intertextual nature of our languages, such as your hard work and passion for your subject reminds us. We tend to de-compartmentalise from others; invest in our own mythologies that make us think we are somehow more special. Your work is crucial in reminding us we are all related and ultimately are branches on the same mighty tree. Please continue with this very noble passion for languages and the cultures that begat them. Caraid mawr.
Thank you! The more I study different languages the more I see how interconnected we all are
I literally just purchased "The Mabinogi" after binging on the history of the Welsh on CZcams yesterday. I am very excited to delve deeper into the folklore of a fascinating peoples history.
@@tectzas Heddwch/ PEACE in the ancient British tongue.
Likewise
Thank you very much for this video. I am glad I came here watching.
Most interesting of course: the ancient beer recipe.
Really well done, thank you.
I am Assyrian from (Iraq- Mesopotamia) I am very proud of coming from this part of the world that rich of history of first writing, school, libraries, wheels, frist people who divided the time, the year, very good in math, astronomy and agriculture and so on. We have a statement that say: " the first letter start here" its mean in Iraq- Mesopotamia. I hope my country's history appears and been knowing by every human being. Thank you for this short video beautiful lady, thanks for your time of reading and researching. ❤❤
The history ur talking about is very much the IndoEuropean history of Mesopotamia and not the Assyrian.
I said this part of the world, I didn't say Assyrian did all of that, "by the way I don't know why the world scared of Assyrian name to come forward"?!!!!!.
You mean "Kurdistan"
Sumerian and Assyrian are different ,the Sumerians were Kurd.
@diyarfatah The Sumerians did not belong to anyone except the Arabs and Kurds. They stopped stealing i2043
Interesting and most pleasantly presented!
Thank you for the informative presentation...
Gratidão por compartilhar seu conhecimento!!
Julie, thank you for your enlightening and interesting programs, covering so many interesting languages. I am curious, however, why you have not included Arabic. It is an unusual language in that over two thousand years ago it could express anything required today, which made it unnecessary to undergo as much change as other languages. What prompted it to become so expressive so early? Thank you.
Arabic isn't the most early iteration of .. Arabic. First, it was the language spoken wit Hieroglyphs. TzjRT was an ancient Egy word for Willow Tree. شجره .. The language of Hieroglyphs is similar to Akkadian; the educated among both populat'ns could communicate with each other, learned both lingos. I don't know the answer to your question, nor your lingo, alas.. But I wanted to point out that Arabic didn't materialize out of thin air 2000 y. ago.. Humanity had bean working on it for awhile. :D
@@margo1628 old arabic was spoken by the central semitic people’s of southern Levant and northern arabia, one of these peoples were the Ishmaili qedarites, there offspring, the Nabateans, created modern-day arabic, Classical Arabic was concluded in the Hejaz, became the language of the quran, modern day arabic are regional dialects, but classical is completely understandable by any arab.
@@margo1628 so interesting, and what about Aramaeic, the "Latin" of the near East, or about the Phoenician alphabeths (aleph, beith, ...)...it is just overwhelming, so exciting...
one could almost forget about actual "realities".
I kindly accept the sympathetic voice and the even sympathetic look of the woman crafting this clip, and even more because there are -even confessed!- errors within it!!
A fat hug to every individual, which donated donates her his time as well as energy into deciphering these ancient symbols and letters ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
I am not Julie but one reason for not getting to Arabic yet is because it is being uncovered almost AS WE SPEAK, by MacDonald and al-Jallad and van Putten amongst others.
I had an edit reversed in Wikipedia, for posting their findings there in 2016ish (which is a big reason I haven't done anything there since then).
These three men whom I've noted have found that Quranic Arabic is a Nabataean-like language very close to Hismaic and Safaitic, mutually-intelligible so more like dialects of that language. Arabic's history as a language would then stem back to about, oh, 100 BC along Jordan and the northwest Hijaz.
Before that, it gets a little murkier, because these Arabs weren't literate before 100 BC; elsewhere, Arabians spoke other Semitic languages which were not "Arabic" as we know it. Taymanitic seems to be closer to northwest Semitic tongues like Aramaic and Hebrew. Hasaitic was its own thing, to the east. South Arabia spoke Hadrami and Sabaean; Oman was entirely illiterate but it seems that the "modern south arabian" languages like Mehri descend from whatever they were speaking and not writing.
A very diverse place, ancient Arabia . . .
Thanks Jules, this is fun. :) Also thats quite the cool cat, you have there.
That is a HUGE cat!.... and also the most interesting and surprising video to pop up randomly on my youtube feed ever! Thank you.
"Aratta" is the name given, long, long ago, to the region around and including the mountains of Ararat. Down from the difficult terrain of the mountains you'll find remnants of the civilization here such as Göbekli Tepe, Karahan Tepe, Nevalı Çori, Hamzan Tepe, Karahan Tepe, Harbetsuvan Tepesi, Sefer Tepe, and Taslı Tepe, among others, many of which remain undiscovered.
Indeed. Gobleki Tepe dates way way before Sumerian. It looks like a time museum. Ps the Sumerians were Aryan, as are Iranians, Latins and Nordics.
Aratta is one of the names given to kingdom of Urartu. Aratta or Ararat is mentioned in the Epic Poem of Gilgamesh and Enkidu as the place" where gods convene to decide the future of mankind"
@@robertblanc7578 thats not true, they differentiate from aryan cultures so many ways; so they dont like any other surrending cultures, but they also similar to them.
@@robertblanc7578 I'm latinate and not Aryan
Go figure bro
@@robertblanc7578 I read that the original Vikings, who settled in the North, were the lost tribes of Israel.
I have an eager interest in all things Sumerian. You provided an excellent video as an intro - not only to the language, but a brief glimpse into the culture. Thanks much for the education! 😎👍🏻
thank you very much. this was highly intersting.
Amazing job just explaining all that!
1873 - LENORMAND formulated the first Sumerian Grammar and also made a thorough comparative study of the grammar and vocabulary of the Ural-Altaic languages. By so doing, he proved the relationship between the Ural-Altaic languages and Sumerian.
1873 - EDOUARD SAYOUS, a French historian proved the linguistic comparisons of Lenormand. In 1869 and 1896, he was in Hungary and he learned Hungarian. In acknowledgement of his work, he was made a member of the Hungarian Kisfaludy Literary Guild.
1875 - FRANÇOIS C. LENORMAND strongly advocated that the language that discovered writing was most closely related to Hungarian. Therefore he traveled again to Hungary to learn the language more thoroughly. In his book “The Ancient Language of the Chaldeans and the Turanian Languages” from phonetics to the noun suffixes, almost entirely relying on the logic and pronunciation of the Hungarian language, he continued his research into the comparison between the Sumerian and the Turanian languages. He found that the Sumerian phonetic rules were based on the Hungarian.
1875 - HEINRICH GELZER, a Swiss linguist, in an article entitled: Das Ausland, stated that the Sumerian noun and verb suffixes were identical to those of the Turanian languages.
Specificially Turkish because when we talk about Turanian it is so vast. There are al lot of languages like chinese but it is specificially Turkish...
Brilliant! Well done.
Greetings from Egypt
U should make a coptic video
Agree. Coptic is the singular and mysterious language of the ancient Egyptians.
The channel ReligionForBreakfast actually just posted a really good video on Coptic a few weeks ago. It's really good.
You are the first youtuber talking about languages to whom I have listened to all the videos. Why do you have such a passion for this topic?