Top 10 MOST DOPED Cyclists of 90s Cycling
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- Most Doped Cyclist of 90s Cycling such as legends Lance Armstrong, Marco Pantani or Bjarne Riis. Enjoy the list. #cycling, #Sports, #doping
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Those doped up 90s races were exciting to watch!
Zabel's "sense of humor" sure beats Armstrong's Sense of Entitlement
I feel Lance was short-changed: His _Forced Promotion_ of the entire team's drug use definitely deserves extra credit.
Rominger, Indurain, Ugrumov, Cipollini should be on the list.
Rominger, Cipollini und Indurain wurden nie positiv getestet. Ugrumov Proben aus dem Jahr 1995 wiesen einen Hämatokritwert von 60 auf, also EPO verwendet.
@@TheMetallass na ja... wie kann man immer noch so naive sein? Armstrong, Rijs usw. wurden damals auch nie positiv getestet.
@@joanvallve7647 Das sind Tatsachen. Du kannst niemanden ohne Beweise verurteilen.
@@TheMetallass Doch. Du kannst. Die Frage ist ob es stimmt oder nicht. In 2024 ist es schon 100% klar was damals passiert ist. Und ganz ehrlich war schon in 2007 klar.Hast du noch nicht Ulle's Doku gesehen?
There was little EPO could do to a sprinter.
Another great vid dudes. I Would like more lists like this from other times and decades
They might have been doped to the gills but the bikes sure did look a lot better back then.
Gotta agree with you there.
Recently was watching some video and seen a TT bike that shit looked goofy as all hell man idk what they did to it looked like it got smashed by a hydraulic press or someshit. Bikes used to look elegant
Yea, those old school bikes look great! Except for the TT bikes though.. 😅 some of them was a bit too strange.
A super record campag colnago from the 80s is a joy to behold.
Even if he was never caught, Indurain deserves to be on the list because his exploits are truly on another level, he pushed doping farther than anyone had before and quietly left when others started doing the same
Really, he was Conconi client with all the other Banesto riders and when the storm was to enter Peloton after the failed blitz by police at Giro in 1996, he understood that was time to leave.
I assumed Indurain was going to be #1 on the list.
And he never got caught!
He deserves it along with ex. Greg Lemond that somehow got tremendously much better the year EPO went into clinical trials in his backyard, had his biggest success when EPO could be prescribed by regular doctors and dropped like a rock 1½ years after.
Merkx, Indurein, Fignon, Hinault, Aqetil, Ulrich, Basso, Contador, Froome....
Why did English riders suddenly succeed when while having astma?
@@jenspetersen5865 Greg LeMond actually got screwed by EPO. That's why he got dropped like a rock the year after 1990, like you said, because everyone else started using it and he was never able to compete again
Piotr Ugrumov, definitely. His 1994 Tour de France performances were surreal
Indurains performances were even more surreal
Where is Super Mario Cippolini? Surely he needs to be on this list.
Es wurde vermutet, das er gedopt sei, aber nie positiv getestet.
There was little aid EPO could give to a sprinter.
No Indurain? A 6' plus rider that was able to climb with the best of them and win 5 TDF's. Ok.
I’m not disagreeing with you but is there any real evidence against Big-mig???
The channel has given him quite a few mentions and even made videos on him but, to their credit, this list is limited only to those who were actually caught or who admitted it. Don’t think Big Mig ever even had the decency to do the latter🤷♂️
Let’s not forget Brad Wiggins was also over 6’ and ‘morphed’ into a tour winner
really, he was able to climb with pure climbers who were massively treated. If you start from the point a guy like Pantani e.g. was naturally gifted and was also treated with EPO as much as possible (and the result is, like it or not, he's largely rated as the greatest grimpeur ever), how those guys like Indurain, Zuelle, Olano, Riis, Ullrich etc with a totally different frame and on paper skills were able to be on the hills with him (and Virenque, Leblanc, Escartin, Rodriguez etc)???
There's no sense, they shouldn't even have been in the position of being there, along those climbs, and having to be distanced with attacks bordering on super-human VAM.
Proof at the end they were all treated (high likely even more) and we got just a 4.0 steroids multiplied context with all the values empowered to some no sense.
@@davess61I don’t know anything about cycling and just recently got interested in it. Is it detrimental to a rider to be really tall?
Great stuff, guys. Am I right that youve limited the list to convicted or admitted dopers? Bravo. Fair enough to ridicule the many other ‘mutants’ out there but I think its correct that you maintain a clear distinction…between the certain dopers and the ‘almost certain’ dopers😂 Maybe that latter group should be the subject of your next top ten video. 🙏
Mauro Gianetti was almost dying in 1998 from his massive doping abuse and he won several classics including a silver medal at the world championships in Lugano in 1996. 💩
P.S. He is now the team principal and CEO of the UAE team and I am sure, that he has some golden tips for the terminator of modern cycling Tadej Pogacar. 🤡
Lets not forget that it is much harder to not get caught now. You can stay above 3000m. and have the effect of doping.
You can use hyperbaric chambers ....
10? years ago you could take the juice and live the life, but performance does not equal doping.
Lance has stated that living above 2500m. in Aspen now his HC is in the mid 40'ties - much higher than when he lived in Texas.
@@jenspetersen5865You mean hyPObaric. Which are not hyPObaric at all, but relatively hypoxia, to simulate the available oxygen at high altitude. Of course, that only might be equivalent to epo, but doesn’t add the effects of HGH and anabolic steroids like testosterone.
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Tony Romminger is missing for sure
No doubt...
At least these guys actually used "performance enhancers", with the benefit of "bent" medical advisors. When Tom Simpson collapsed and died on his bike on Mont Ventoux, he had taken a cocktail of Brandy and Amphetamines, with insufficient hydration throughout the day and in 30C heat, no wonder his heart gave up
10 years from now what will a video like this about today's cyclists look like, hmmm?
Pro cycling and doping go hand in hand. The pros are just as juiced today as they were in the 90's but have figured out how to skirt the rules and use "grey area" doping products that are either hard to detect or aren't tested.
I am convinced it is still rife. They are too good.
If you're going to ask even elite athletes to ride thousands of kilometres around a whole country ( sometimes several countries ) go over mountains, for a televised spectacle, then you can hardly moan when they seek out PED's
@@colinstewart1432I wholeheartedly agree that what is asked of them for the tour for example is insane.
I love it when he says a rider after injury returns to doping not competition
iknowrite? I was gonna say something but you beat me to it...hilarious!
Armstrong deserves to have the worst position. Yes, many (most) doped back then but only Armstrong sued everyone who said he was doping. To my knowledge none of the payments when he won were ever returned once the truth was out.
Guy was still the best if everyone dopes and u win it's an even playing field
@@codino97 No, it's not. Not every body reacts the same to doping. Certainly with the max hematocrit levels in place, some could improve their naturale abilities more than others. Plus some riders were unwilling to dope and ended their (succesfull) careers early, didn't rise to pro level or were mere filling of the peloton instead of contenders.
@@codino97 No. As Lemond stated, Guys like Pantani and Indurain would have been great even without doping. Armstrong without doping was a mediocre cyclist at best.
He simply cheated in a more systematic way than everyone else, had been protected more than anyone else, and made a bet.
The bet was that, after the Festina scandal of 1998, the others would have cheated less for the 1999 edition, while, afraid that the tour could be considered a joke, the organization would have turned a blind eye to the doping, so he could cheat more. And he did. IE, that the riders would have been tested for corticosteroids had been announced only two days before the start. It was a surprise for everyone, but only one rider tested positive to corticosteroids FOUR TIMES (not only in the prologue) in that Tour, our dear Lance.
He being only in 10th position is a joke.
06:14 - "An event that today minstrels sing about in the most powerful castles of the planet" 😂😂😂🤦. You really outdid yourself there! 👏👏
And that dig right at the end of the video was savage.😂
As a French I am disappointed to have only one rider in this list, Jalabert could have made it.....
Virenque was 7th on the list, so no need to be disappointed 😂 🎉🎉🎉
Biggest of the 90s? No Question. Miguel Indurain. 5 stolen Tours, undetected but all done via EPO. Still not taken back.
Laurant Jalabert Vuelta 1995. Has to be the most doped performance ever, the man was wearing all the jerseys. It was so ridiculous that he even lead chases wearing the yellow and made break aways on completely flat terrain whilst wearing the yellow. I've never seen anything like this before.
To me the kings of le dopage are Armstrong and indurain
Because they won . But they didnt test positive the most.
The comedy is priceless. Where is your Irish colleague? Riis (Mr 60%), Virenque, Armstrong, and Pantani did EPO as much as they could get away with. Riis and Armstrong knew about blood transfusions. Laurent Fignon, and many others who did not want to play that game in the early 1990s, knew what was going on. Fignon retired at 33. Hinault, Fignon, Lemond, Indurain - they set the pattern for expert time-triallers who then had team support (and grit) in the mountains. That was the norm, until Roglic and Pogacar, who cut their teeth in mountain biking and cyclocross. I was happy to see Vingegaard win the Tour. But that time trial was almost unbelievable. Almost. Oh! - You didn't mention Frank Vandenbroucke. And Philippe Gaumont.
Great VIDEOS...really glad these days are behind us so we can enjoy and marvel at the true human capabilities the sport treats us to today
Next level sarcasm. Nice.
You are a funny dude!
Are you kidding? There are just as doped now
Big Mig and Banesto take a look
Indurain - doped big style - then left without much debate about it.
He was smart to retire when hematocrit rule was introduced
Vinokourov, Contador, Riccó, Cobo, Horner, Valverde, and let us not forget that infamous stage that won Chris Froome the Giro against Dumoulin.
Valverde… a client of dr. Fuentes and winning races in his 40’s?
Valverde didn’t rode in the 90s
@@cyclinghighlights as an amateur he was winning, but agreed, ….thanks for your awesome episodes
The 90's were the best of times when it comes to bicycle racing. Now they don't race in the rain.
Awesome, the "Tashkent Terror" leading a list other than the most dangerous rider in the peloton. Abdu woulda scared even McEwan.
Best cycling channel ever
I have taken more drugs than all 10 put together. I cycle stoned all the time
As a classic american gentleman lance will forever be my fairy dopemother
Where are Jan Ullrich, Alberto Contador and Floyd Landis?
What have they done wrong for not getting an honorable mention? 🤪🤭🤣
And please, don't forget that Clenbuterol as doping was discovered by the East German pharmaceutical company Germed in good cooperation with the Stasi and doctors in sports back in the 1980's or 1970's! I'm missing this honorable mention, too! 😉
The Soviet Union learned from the GDR.
Contador and landis weren’t around in the 90s
@@twright1983Fair enough. 😂
Frank Vandenbroucke's palmares and fate were plenty to be on a list like this. But it's not a purely sporting list, but more like a big picture list.
Jan Ullrich is maybe the biggest talent ever. That´s why he thinks he´s not one of the most doped drivers.
Too many others probably doped even more. Indurain and Armstrong should be 1 and 2
Number 1 for me, and it’s only an opinion, Miguel Indurain. The defier of physics, 82kg and twirling a tiny gear into the high mountains and beating the crap out of 60kg ultra doped climbers.
Somehow Indurain just gets off scott free, even though he kept beating doped riders! I agree with you. It's apparently a popular competition also, well known doped riders in the 90's are still celebrated as heroes during Tour de France while Riis is almost not welcome.. I won't defend Riis, but really, he's just one among the very many.
@@henrik81jensen yep, I’ve always thought it unfair that Armstrong was stripped and made into a sort of cycling Bond villain. At the same time, Zabel and Virenque get to keep their prize monies and jerseys from the same tours and they were bang at it. I too have never got this obsession with Indurain, ask Greg Lemond, he’ll tell you.
@@Servicevelo I guess Armstrong probably made too many enemies, past team members turning on him and so on. I always felt that Armstrong was looked at as a villain, maybe because he was so dominant. He might have been stripped of his victories, but really, he still won, his opponents were not innocent either, but that can of course be debated. I do listen to his podcast The Move everytime they do the Tour de France, Armstrong, Hincapie and Bruyneel, I don't think about their past in this regard, they know the cycling game so well, it very interesting.
@@henrik81jensen I see it all in much the same way. The move is excellent, as is Chris Horner’s CZcams channel, beyond the coverage.
@@Servicevelo Yes, I think I've taken a quick glimpse of Horners channel once, will do again if you recommend. 😊
VINO!
For sure nr 1 and 2 should be on the spot. maybe Riis as nr 1 instead of 2.
I don’t care what they take I wish pro teams were sponsored by pharmaceutical companies to see who makes the best dope
Big Mig! Totally crazy how that big chap just rode away sat down. Also totally crazy he is never mentioned when doping is discussed! Maybe he was just a natural! hmmmm
who was the most doped we may never know. who had the most influence on the sport by doping, Lance. sweet of you to leave out my hero, Jan Ullrich.
Gianetti? Ricco? Ullrich? Vinokourov? Valverde? Mayo?
Zulle, VDB, JaJa, Rominger all missing for sure.
No mention, in the video or comments, of Evgeni Berzin?
His hematocrit level was not particularly high for those years. That, at 1.76m X 68kg he could climb better than guys 10cm higher and 10kg heavier should be considered normal. That he could beat them in time trials is not, but EPO can't enhance the performances of climbers in time-trials as much as those of time-trialists in climbing (that's why those years had been dominated by time-trialists), physically he was a freak beyond any doping. Unfortunately he was also allergic to training and was gifted in irritating his teammates, otherwise he would have had a longer high-level career.
Please do some research on Sean Yates and publish your findings.
Damn! Probably only a couple of kilos but the riders use to be bigger, or more bloated back then. Maybe it's the shorter sleeves and socks?
That's an interesting point. I followed the 97 TdF IRL and seeing the riders up close in skinsuits for the final Disneyland TT, I was shocked by how emaciated they looked. Virenque and Pantani were transparent in that kit.
@@janscanulfsson9295 Wow! I bet. 'Specially after 3 weeks. II was probably looking at Zabel and other flat sprint riders. Ther're are more riders in the World and it is more competitve now. Can't be fat!
cameras were different back then, made you look bigger, for real, look it up
S. Roche!
Armstrong number 10😃😃🤪
Riis flushed his products down the toilet when doping control knocked on the team bus in 1998 and by that point he'd had enough and retired haha
People should leave Indurain alone. He won fair and square. They even examined his entire human anatomy. They discovered that he had large lung & his health was all perfectly healthy and natural for a large body frame.
As a Dane, it's sad to have to disagree with your list. I think Riis has earned a top rank - he paved the way for other dopers, perfecting his method and spread it through first Telekom and then SaxoBank (Hamilton really blew the lid on that one) as sport director. His effect on ever more stealthy doping in the sport was felt for decades. There were other 'spreaders' like him, but of the riders on your list, I think he deserves a top rank; since many of the others were 'only' users. It's good to see your list, though. Keeps reminding me of the hypocrisy when our commentators today cheer Vingegaard; I have no doubt he's on whatever juice Jumbo-Visma has concocted.
Sadly I question any Danes results , When Vinegaard 1st took the yellow a friend and I looked at each other and said he’s a Dane 😳
@@twinpiperzed7222 😥
King Kong Ketones, at the very least😐
also known as Mr 60
@@twinpiperzed7222 It got something to do with genes, not where you come from 😂
The bikes are getting heavier, the gears are getting bigger yet the times are getting shorter! Plenty of juicing going on. Makes watching the sport less fun because every win is seen as possibly tainted
Even when they were caught - and it happened often - they were miraculously let loose again without any punishment. They cheated with the tests, hid away from surprise tests, had ridiculous excuses when caught, got very, very light if any bans. No one took it seriously back then.
I heard all of them....😉😁
Uzbekistan is in Asia not Eastern Europe.
Erik Zabel came out of nowhere? Seriously? He had some good results before.
He was quite a complete rider comparable with the likes of Peter Sagan from 2012-2018. That's why he was also good with some climbs.
I'm the most doped, sometimes I don't remember even going out
He who wins the most tdf should be on top of the list id est Lance Armstrong.
Most of those wins were in the 2000s though. Needs a sequel vid
Both Indurain and Ulrich could have been on this list. I suppose if it had included the 80s and 00s then you would have have a much more challenging selection process.
What makes u think cycling is clean now and doping stopped in the 90s?
Don’t think that
@@cyclinghighlights i would like to think Pogocar was clean yesterday with that performance
he never said that.
@@cyclinghighlights There is a new tendency to point out the 90s was the dirty period of cycling and that now riders are winning clean and performances are based on improved nutrition and training techniques. Any opinion on this?
@@landscapeandmonuments1615Naive people were saying the same thing when Armstrong was winning all of those Tours de France 😂 - doping has always been part of cycling and always will be
Everyone would dope as much as they could get away with
Lets face they were all at it....some got caught some didnt.....
Indurain was the first rider to go nuclear with EPO
At least no one is using the Doping cocktail anymore
You missed "The Cobra"! That guy was so blood doped his body rejected reinfusion of bad blood.
Not in 90s.
Doping is great!
🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
What were they hepecrit levels.
The name "Mr. 60%" was attached to Riis in an old school printed-on-paper magazine article, and the figure of 58% for Pantani - it was a big deal and it looks my sport of choice may never recover from it. Good thing it's a healthy sport that most everyone can do.
_hematocrit_
Most doped rider? Easy, Jonas vingegaard 🤷♂️🙊
i thought weighlifting was bad!
Franck Vandenbroucke should have been in this one .. the ultimate rock and roll cyclist of the 1990's.
Wiggins. Couldn't even ride 100km before without any mountains in it, was worse when there where. Was a hard alcoholic and in a couple years time could win the TDF.
What's worse - 'Doped to the Eyebrows" or 'Doped to the Gills'?
No Ludo?? Rgr
I wish someone would make a similar list of x-country skiers in the 90s. E.g. Italians were very successfull back then, and of course Norwegians as well. It was only the Finns that got caught in 2001.
Juiced to the Gills!!💉💉💉
Riis was gewiss Ballan.
The Tour has always been dirty, always, they were doping with strychnine from the first race.
The only dope in this conversation is the guy who wrote it.
Frank Vandenbroucke
I can add me to the list, i. get high and i ride like a monster, .i have big respect those champions who did the same
Amazed Pantani was only no3...
Big Mig never tested positive but neither did Lance. Indurain goes down in Spanish cycling history as one of the greatest, although, he may likely have been one of the first to win on EPO. And then the 90s are always pointed to as the bad decade - when in fact doping has always been part of cycling. Just as Merckx, Hinault, Fignon - whoever won a GT basically :-/
Agreed. Much as we may dislike admitting it. The top third of any elite cycle race would probably be good candidates. Anquetil, Simpson and everyone after.
Lemond from California - was hot 1983-1990
EPO went into clinical trials in California 1983-1988. He would have gotten it in 1986 when he was shot, but also easily from 1983.
Lance tested positive. He had a doc write a backdated TUE to cover it up. He also admitted to it in 2012 if you're still confused that Lance was doping.
@@holdencaulfied7492
Lance Armstrong has been pretty open after his confession, but the fact remains that while he should have failed the drug test in the prologue of TDF 1999 he did not as he "had" the TUE.
Claiming that Lemond was clean because he did not get busted is silly. Bjarne Riis was never busted and is likely one of the most doped cyclists ever, but both were cycling when EPO was not illegal to use!
I would have placed Armstrong as #5. He was the master of walking the tightrope. Pure high tech science.
He had Ferrari.
Bjarne riis had Cecchini.
But the video is MOST doped, not most sophisticated doping scheme. Armstrong wasn't even close to as doped as mid 90s Pantani, Riis.
I always get a good laugh when these racers are referred to as “the best riders on the planet”. They may be the fastest, but they’re not even close to “the best”.
Who's not doped winner?
I go with Pantani. He seems to get a pity party because he died?
One wonders quite how much he was allowed to get away with. It's not like he hid it and took about everything professionally and personally he could get his hands on EPO corticos cocaine etc. All cos instead of just winning the race he had to show everyone up. Riis defo up there I mean the size of him climbing like a god for a year but Marco did it for years with no attempt at disguise and then fell apart when the authorities were shamed into action and caught him with a test designed to catch no one and pretend.
I know what you mean, I have an emotional link with Marco for multiple reasons, I know what pro cycling was, what Marco did through those years all his bright areas and the grey ones, but you know why Marco generates bit of a different feeling and it's not just cause he died desperate and young or the specific idea you could have about the Madonna di Campiglio test and his exclusion at '99 Giro (Idk if you knew it, but he did a test in the afternoon at a hospital recognized by UCI and in addition to the hematocrit value back below 50, the platelets value is not compatible with the value of the morning, cause instead of going down it went up, this suggests something strange for that test happened, reguardless the EPO use or even techniques to lower it).
He had a unique racing style, his way to intend cycling created empathy with fans, he was a nice guy who used to do anything to create spectacle for people and we loved him for those reasons.
The context was what it was I mean he didn't create it, in the end he became object of media and judicial over-attention even without laws to condamn the facts, and all that for a context completely broken where everybody did the same, nobody has ever seen open inquiries for hematocrit swings and everybody kept doing it.
He paid an unnecessary price, his path to self-destruction wasn't a pleasure trip.
And when he entered pro peloton, the top guys were already playing with rhEPO and hematocrit levels, since this game started in the second mid of 80s and I believe around 1991-92 was already quite widespread.
Big guys became all around monsters performing even on climbs and if you wanted to create a difference being a pure climber well you high likely had to go with serious levels.
Therefore I honestly look at him as an Icarus who gave himself self-destruction after he played with something that somehow was forced to deal with.
Thank you for that@@leonardofabbri7930
I never liked the personality but maybe it is more of an Icarus tragedy on reflection. I mean even now people will use L-carnitine (see Salazar Farah) and all kinds of out of competition Cortisone (lose weight and strengthen) and Salbutamol etc. Not to mention whatever is untraceable and technically banned stuff.
Doping may be de rigueur in all sports albeit with more attention to the one's that don't trigger a breach now. I once asked the question "Did Sharapova cheat for 18 days or 10 years?".
What is doping? Taking drugs for performance only or failing a test?
Being as dogmatic as I was above is wrong, accepted.
Marco will always be a fan favourite because of his GOAT climbing talent and the ability to send shivers down your spine with his attacks. He also had weaknesses unlike sistematic cheaters and robots such as Armstrong and Ullrich. Nothing to do with his death. He was simply more "human" than other athletes, despite his god given talent.
Jalabert
But did Biana Reese ever test positive?
Pantani was never find positive to any doping. He was found with high ematocrito level in 1999 but the test few hour later was within the range. He had 7watt/kg when he was not professional so for sure not doped.
Good one! 🤣🤣🤣
What a bullshit 🤣😜😆
So noone can win af tour today ? Unlesh your name is poggi ?? Al this Are 90 rides not 2033 , a lifetime since
Sorry, but Lance Armstrong it's on the top of any list as the Biggest Cheater in cycling History.
He did Run a Massive Criminal Enterprise 100% Dedicated Solely to find by any means necessary, substances that would allowed him and Team mates to Cheat Big Time,in the Biggest Competitions in the world and Win.
Without any Morals or Respect for the Sport,the other Professionals but above all for the Millions of Die Hard cycling Fans around the World.
Lance Armstrong was the Kingpin of the Doping World in professional cycling.
An Absolute Disgrace of a human being.
Not in the 90s, only in 99
No white Kenyan?
In 90s??
Surely Fignon must be top of that list ? 💉💉💉💉💉🥴🥴
90s
Fignon in 90s it’s only important in 92
Lol… 100% in the 90s….. if you weren’t doping, you wouldn’t be a pro.
When was PANTANI found positive? Never ! High heamacrotic so what if I go to altitude for a few days mine is high also. If you are going to be bitter at least get your facts right brother
Epo 98 analysis tdf
Cycling highlights is correct. I believe Pantani finished 12th in a TT in 1998, after finishing 124th (or so) in 1997.
You should do football...
I have a football channel, Failed Sharks