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I paid $20 for SkillCapped Valorant, should you?
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- čas přidán 3. 12. 2022
- I bought a Subscription to SkillCapped Valorant for $18.99 to see if it is worth it. They have some great content on their CZcams channel that advertises this subscription, and I spent my money to check it out so you don't have to.
Great vid u should do more, I never knew that you wrote videos for them and now I see why you didn’t post so often
Yeah the main issue rn is that there have been no pro games for a bit so my normal content has been harder, looks like this vid is getting a good response so far which is great! Thanks for the support!
I feel like the Value of that subscription comes less from the videos themselves (that can be found for free), but from the fact that they compile all the videos you need for you and give you a direction.
New Players often don't know what they're lacking or what they should be improving and this subscription provides a guideline. And to low-rank players the concepts don't need to be explained indepth, as learning any basic concept would benefit them.
There are multiple paid courses on the Internet on things that you can learn by yourself for free, but people buy them, because it gives them a direction and accountability, not necessarily exclusive content.
Good points, I agree there is added value to the subscription. I just think it’s not 18.99/mo.
@@xxichikokoxx There are People with more Money than Time so for them it's easy to justify. I don't think they are targeting people that worry about 20$. Personally I have more time than money so I go through CZcams sifting through mud hoping to find a diamond in the rough.
@@BUGSYTHEBEAN I agree that it's quite expensive, but that doesn't matter as long as there's people paying for it. And as far as I know, they don't have competition.
New players... frankly just need to play more lol
@@bookuroooverwatch161 honestly just find a friend to play with who's higher rank than you, he'll give you more tips which will stick with you much better
When you learn more from the review of a skill capped lesson than actually TAKING the lesson. Earned my sub, my friend. Keep up the content.
Glad to be here before this blows up. Anyways, while I do see the merit in paying for coaching and informative content, I honestly think that it's more well-spent on 1-on-1 coaching session.
Tbh I was searching for a exact video like this like 2 -3 months prior tp your video thanks dude!
Great vid, wasnt planning to buy it anyway but nice to know what they (dont) offer from someone who knows what they are talking about, tysm
I think the target demographic for these subscriptions are strictly iron-silver. Even then I feel like there should be something like bi-weekly or monthly 1-on-1 VOD reviews offered by these courses.
I signed up for it almost 2 years ago, the site said it would help you with coaching and that they had a discord. I was iron 3 at the time, so i signed up for it. When I joined up, it was all just videos. I couldnt find any access to a coach, and when I joined the discord, it was only League of Legends. They told me they diddnt have a discord for valorant and diddnt have intentions of making one any time soon. I canceled my subscription, then was charged 3 months for it. The only positive thing I can say is when I canceled and was charged even after canceling was the customer support was good at refunding me the money. Doing what you said, watching a bunch of youtube videos was the play. I grinded up to gold 2, and all I did was watch youtube of pros playing, seeing how they played the agents I mained, and watched some play agents I had trouble playing against so I knew what to do different against them.
Do a video on GameLeap!
I personally used their courses for overwatch, over a year ago. I personally really liked it. They had great structures and concept brekdowns for every character, role, "subrole" and map. They even had courses on mentality, communication and even more.
Even tho their youtube vidoes are good i feel like the course just does things more organised and in the right order, so you can focus on a speific concept at a time. So even tho the information might be avalible for free, the paid course deliverd everyting in a way that was easy to soak up.
I dont know anything about their valorant course tho, would be fun to see.
Great video about SkillCapped anyways!! :)
I’ve gotten a fairly good concept of the game and climbing from free videos (I’ve climbed from bronze to plat consistently) Would u recommend the course and did it work for you?
@@luimac3374 If i remember correctly they have a money back guarantee if you dont manage to rank up in a certain amount of time. In that case there is nothing to loose by checking it out at least
Of all the Valorant video channels for fundamentals, Skillcapped is the best. When I started playing I subscribed to so many trash channels for Valorant basics and skillcapped is the only one I'm still subbed to. If concepts at higher levels seem lacking or not explained to a depth you'd like it's probably because immortal players aren't the main demographic. The amount of time it would take to break down high level concepts for the percentage of people those videos would help just doesn't make sense from a business standpoint. The amount of quality, valuable, bite sized information that can be gleaned from their channel is best and their courses are well thought out and thorough enough to really substantiate their claim to get peolle to rank up to at least diamond. Beyond that it's hoped that you've built enough of a foundation to be able to work out what you need to improve and if not you can get personal coaching
Lol i had a friend i played hots with. He said same about most tips and tricks. He called them “catch phrase coaching”
its a very broad tip that isnt always finite…. Because although the game seems some what the same all the time. They’re not. Every game you play is different. So you have to practice things and think about things a lot to improve.
You just earned a sub for your well thought out and logical explanation. Can’t wait to watch your guides
I payed for skillcapped when I was gold because I thought I saw the value in it, but after all the weird guidelines they set (which isn't mentioned in the video), using skillcapped almost felt like a chore. For example, iirc one of the guidelines was to watch at least 2 hours of content per week (don't quote me). Either way as an ascendant player I understand there is basically no value in skillcapped for anyone over high gold/low plat, it's fs targeted to lower elo players. Either way, great video! Keep up the great content!
4:41 AINT NOBODY GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW THIS MAN CASUALLY WALKED BEHIND THE SATTELITE? FOR HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT
Thanks, was almost about to buy a subscription
I would reccomend flowshizzle for any new players also. i watched him in ep 2 when he was on anbox and since have made it to immo. His atra guides are incredibly comprehensive.
While I think these videos are great, if you truly want to improve, you'll actually put effort in learning every play you make regardless of whether what you do will give you success or not. I believe with that thing in mind, you'll actually be able to micro analyse yourself and be a better player than most of them who just tend to play the game for the sake of winning.
thanks homie, as a bronze boy the hardest thing for me to do is to know what I don't know. Its hard for me to differentiate between bullshit and the real deal, since I haven't been exposed to it much. ('cept for woohoojin, I guess)
Super high quality video! Earned a subscriber :)
you should start posting more videos. great information!
The editing in the video is amazing.
Its not just Skillcapped that does this ... alot of the content on CZcams is all Generalized stuff that tends not to help anyone that is even intermediate ... like Silver and up ... because its SO general with no real explanation that its like DUH I know this already. I like to watch coaching specifically Jollz videos when he goes over gameplay vod or live gameplays with higher ranked players so I can see what mistakes are being made and what can be done to fix them, either so I can try to fix my mistakes or never make them to begin with. Like making a habit of crouching. But also understanding why its a bad habit and what are the positives of actually using crouching or other things.
I subbed to skill capped like a year ago and I think it's good if you want to get to silver or gold. It's good for learning some basic concepts. After that it's probably better to just watch pro vods of your main agent.
"Dont pay just play"
- a acendant friend
i’ve been waiting for this one
they should probably start coaching service
I know this is random comment, but is it fine to get your crosshair? I main astra because of you. Thank you for all the tips!
Thanks!!! For sure:
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Very interesting :) You should definitely do some other coaching sites too :)
Nicely well done vid. Earned a sub.
2:19 whats that website/ app u r using for that map showcase?
My troughs on coaching some good some not. The most things make no sense that some coaches they teach Silver gold players how to counter strafe. These players need to learn in this rank how to play their agent right use util right and an how to counter strafe. The way to learn is warm up and play alot. I asked so many pros how to get better all of them say play lot to get more consistent and confident. The most players in rnaks like gold to plat dont no how to jumpspot. But for me the best tip is play a lot dont care about your rank and dont think about what you team mates doing
always wondered if it was worth it, thanks for the vid!
I play in immortal-ascendant lobbies and from what I can tell, skillcapped and any other paid things like these only helps low elo players like iron to gold/plat. But when you're in that rank, literally anything helps, like just watching videos from high ranking players or even jollztv lol.
I think its significantly better to just watch pros/high ranking players and concentrate on why they do this and that. Although, I've never used skillcapped but I've seen a few free vids from them through youtube.
Idk about Valorant, in league of legends there were a lot of useful videos which wasn’t on their “free” CZcams channel. But you can make a refund, no? Or it’s only works for full year subscription?
Ngl I’m peak ascendant 1 and been playing for the past 6 months without any fps background and for me if you want to get better just train something you’re bad at. For example if you have bad aim and movement, focus on improving your aim and movement by playing deathmatch and shooting bots on the range. If you have bad game sense, watch pro plays. And you have to have play for team mindset in order to win more game. Just focus on team winning and don’t play selfish.
Even though I appreciate it but nobody is perfect
I don’t think any of these are really too beneficial to the average valorant player, if you have extra money to spend I’d recommend 1 on 1 coaching because it’s 100% catered to you and your play style highlighting your strengths and your weaknesses
i wanted to find the guy who makes reviews on pro players but i forgot his channel name , can anyone help me? ( 24+ looking man in grey hoodie or something)
please do more of these
GG just played with you reyna icebox... knew that was your phantom lmao
a better investment would be a coach, more personalized advice is WAY better
Hey, thanks for the breakdown. I have been looking at these websites for a while but I never knew if they were scams or not,
Thanks! Same, thought it would be an interesting topic while I wait for pro games to resume, my Valorant content getting so boring with no pro games :(
I bought a sub a couple weeks ago and been stuck silver for a year or so. And bronze a year before that. I’ll hit plat tonight. Their sub is good and I dislike OPs reasons why it’s not good. They’re not videos that will garner views on CZcams bc they aren’t meant to be flashy and short( they’re meant to hold tons of info.
bro whats ur crossair the one in the video
Although you said it’s not worth it, they will offer you a full refund if you don’t go up at least 5 divisions. So it is probably worth a shot.
tl;dr: Diamond in 30 days decent but maybe just watch the videos here on CZcams and don't pay subscription. If you have a crave for strategy/gamesense _maybe_ reference paragraph 4.
1. Actually someone that paid for the subscription too here. All the points he makes are pretty much true. -Which hits hard, because I was also working on a startup with a similar business model to Skillcapped. I had to let a lot of stuff pass so the higher ups wouldn't cut my head for "losing them money" when I was worried about the quality of the content we were recording.-
At least _seems_ like Skillcapped isn't that icky in business practices.
2. Funnily enough the 30 days to diamond series (The one in which they smurf no-comms which is un-ethical and stuff and pretty much doesn't have editing) it's actually really good if you are lower ranked. The host explains really well a lot of the plays, making it easy to grasp the logic of certain situations. But then again... You could just watch the free fully and beautifully edited CZcams videos which summarize the whole run and get value out of that.
3. If you are higher ranked and are more interested in what the pros are doing stuff like this channel, sovereign guides and woohoojin-sensei will service you way better anyway.
4. For the discord server experience... You can ask some of the coaches for advice and othe rplayers as well. Some players may even offer to VOD review for you... But it would be ideal if the actual staff in Skillcapped would make an active effort to try and coach the players above certain ranks.
whats the crosshair in the first clip tho 😳
i do have a question for you, what is your rank
im currently immo 3 and never warmedup took a break between my sessions only onetrtick reyna have a 67%wr and only soloQ either did i ever watch a pro game lol.
that crosshair is freaking me out almost as much as the weird subscription service
I also feel like the problem is that they are SMURFING they are not playing in their own elo. Their videos are genrally made for a demographic in low elo but people in low elo just aren't as good as the people in high elo. This makes it difficult to replicate the plays that they say to make in their smurf commentaries
bro your voice is so recognizable
I felt the same thing. I’ve been subscribed to SkillCapped for a while since I come from League of Legends, and personally their Valorant videos are subpar. You can get the same content for free or even better; while it may have some value on the lower ranks, the higher you go, the less valuable it becomes. I find it annoying to come across the same exact videos I have already seen on CZcams but worse.
They take the exact video and divide it into lessons, essentially just partitioning the already good content they had and make the subscribers go through extra clicks and pauses for absolutely no reason.
I tried skill capped, I honestly liked it, once I reached gold it was kinda useless, I couldn't implement the tips they were giving me and I didn't have enough time to play.
Awesome video bro!
This is the guy the world needed
Their site gives much better guides that they can’t post on CZcams bc they’re not good for CZcams’s algorithm. I’ve been stuck silver for a year and I bought their sub a couple weeks ago. I should hit play tonight. Their course helped me. The videos give much more details and much more examples than youtube could allow bc people wouldn’t watch it due to it being too long and not catchy.
That's a really interesting take I did not consider! I agree that they couldn't go too in depth on a topic without losing some audience. However, from the exclusive content I watched I never felt that they were really in depth, but very niche. It was mainly a combination of un-edited videos that had long breaks between learnings or vastly over-simplified concepts, like the rotating or listicle videos.
bro tried sneaking in his business
I don’t see anything on skill capped that can’t be learned for free on youtube or just by gaining experience
sometimes you improve by experience/playing. i mean to be fair most of us learned playing from other random players and improve from just seeing some players do stuff
literally watched one video on how to win gun fights and I won a lot more. I learnt more ways to peek in one video. and it was all free
Now they gonna play you to delete this vid...
i thought you were like a high subscribed youtuber or something keep up lol
They took my cash and refused to refund me even though I couldn’t access my account.
here before this video gets popular😎😎
I do all the tips to "hit immortal" nut I am still in bronze
Finally someone made a video about those trash tips from skillcapped which everybody knows
i just hit d1 solo q without coaching. I just watched free yt videos
skill capped is great if your silver or below imo
Very interesting
Honestly the only way to climb is to just play a shit ton
Just pay Jollz or like OD26 or smth fr
Shitting on your own clients, this is a good way to get blacklisted lol
btw, you can actually watch the videos completely for free, ive been doing it for a week and i can agree with your take on sc
crazy to see how the paid stuff isn't really significantly better than the free videos lmao
also just watch pro games, you learn a lot
dont tilt? ok its that ez lmaooo
get coaching from independet coachers they will be 100x more useful
IS THAT A 19 DOLLAR FORTNITE CARD
oooh
And this guy just got a subscribe from me!
here before this blows up!!
super helpful btwwwww
interesting
Find it funny that they are smurfing to get the info since smurfing makes climbing harder
lol didnt think if that 😂
@@BUGSYTHEBEAN in there league videos they also admitted to deliberately inting to test thingd
There was also an episode where they told you to clear down to a lane you want to gank but you really shouldn’t be starting blue side as mundo who doesn’t have mana
Sorry for my english. In my personal experience it's no worth it.
30 day ago I algo pay for 1 month access, at the beginning must of the content was videos they uploaded to CZcams, I didn't panic I thought "it's OK I'm in the introduction" but days passed and overall content was really generic, the "coaching" was some dude, well no some dude, giving advice while he just spam the knife over and over, I wanted to see some game play analysis or videos where the coach was doing wat he was explaining.
real
I subscribe for 1 month and I stopped after that.
when u said abt u sposor i was abt to skip and then u said "jk" i was wtf
Man, I wish the algorithm god shoot this vid to the moon
It should not take you 5 months to go from gold 1 to plat 2, if it does your doing something very very wrong…
Yeah im just glad theres a refund system in place i got my money back fast at least.
Glad they honored their refund. I was going to test it to end the video, but decided not to.
I disagree with ur point where u said b player to c and a player to b instead of a player to c. Specific agents hold specific sites better than others and can slow or entirely stop a push. So this isn’t always the case. What if you had cypher anchoring a site but you tell him to rotate bcs its faster instead of a jett or raze. He loses all his util in the case they rehit cyphers site. My point is forcing agents that are already setup or good on one site to rotate to another bcs its faster than you or another player rotating is kind of stupid.
Your example makes sense, there will always be exceptions in a game like Valorant that is so situational. I was mainly talking about a case where someone on heaven A site would waste 15sec running in spawn and watching nothing.
I disagree, if enemy has committed on C it's very unlikely they rotate to be B, especially if they know a cypher is there.
As a cypher you should be ok with losing utility because it's more of an Investment. Your early rotation could literally win the round or give your team the advantage.
Jett will be able to hold B just fine as it's mostly lurker that are roaming about.
@@diwanthegreat but holding just fine isn’t enough at times. And I understand what you mean by a faster rotate is better sometimes.
@@Yorozuya4ever Yea it's completely situational, Cypher maybe the only agent that need not rotate.
This is the reality: All videos of improvements on youtube (Free) are actually enough for even a decent player to rank up. You dont need these paid coaching or VOD reviews unless you are a pro where I just assume players have to do these to be better than the best opponents in the game. But from iron to ascendant you dont actually need any of these coaching but to play the game. Dont worry about rank and just play for entertainment as the purpose of game is for entertainment. Silver or diamond is not a pro elo that you will need to stress and pay for these subscriptions. For very minority of people these paid things might work, but remember the word MINORITY. Instead go out and spend these $10 or $50 on something useful in real life. No offense to anyone, peace.
In case you wanna know: I am ascendant 2.
Even in league I always thought that by buying skillcapped or proguides i would improve glad i didnt buy it because i hit immortal without paying a single thing to anyone. All ineed now is a 1 on 1 coaching with a coach with a different perspective on the game because i cant find my mistakes if i think what im doing is right
Just warmup in a competitive game time and energy wasting in deathmatch and tapping heads me and my friends all dont warmup we immo3
opinion on jollztv's coaching?
Barely says anything. Should watch coaches like woohoojin and worthy for good coaching.
od26
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how to get good at valorant? get good aim... idk how to tell you but i just play chamber, last year got to plat, didnt play for a whole year, didnt play any other fps between but Dota 2, played my ranking games and got low diamond, no lineups... no bullshit just aim... played against high diamonds and the rank thats above diamond.. the fact idek what it is might tell u how little i know lol
Let me coach you instead ;)
Well, tey r betting on "they post their best videos, to make ppl feel wow, i get these for free, imagine what i get if i pay"
based opinion
Humanity has gone full circle (yes I know this is not the correct phrase)
Remember when we used to complain about services gatekeeping their best products behind a paywall while the free stuff was lame? We now complaining about their best products being free while the smaller, secondary things about the product are keept behind payment
Lol