The Closest Cy Young Races in MLB History…

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  • čas přidán 9. 09. 2023
  • Last week, we discussed the NL MVP race between Mookie Betts and Ronald Acuña Jr. With Justin Steele, Blake Snell, Spencer Steele and Zac Gallen all neck and neck for the NL Cy Young, we’re running it back with the closest Cy Young Races in MLB history…
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  • @DaWARRoom
    @DaWARRoom  Před 9 měsíci +9

    Who’s your pick?🍿

    • @titi12370
      @titi12370 Před 9 měsíci

      my balls

    • @rdjmario3627
      @rdjmario3627 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Justin Steele. GO CUBBIES!!

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Před 9 měsíci +1

      Steele is the most complete pitcher, this year at least. Snell walks too many guys and pitches too few innings, Strider is inconsistent, and Webb and Gallen just aren’t as good as Steele.

    • @999spot5
      @999spot5 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@rdjmario3627as a dbacks fan, Steele deserves it

    • @MLB_KID
      @MLB_KID Před 9 měsíci

      Snell should win it because he has the lower ERA

  • @Jamochashakenbake
    @Jamochashakenbake Před 8 měsíci +5

    As a tigers fan… 2:49 hurt me 😂😂
    Edit: 3:29 also 😭

  • @shoukatsukai
    @shoukatsukai Před 9 měsíci +15

    Verlander had a strong case for winning of winning Cy young in 2012, 2016, and 2018. Mike Trout level award finishing.

    • @TheLastPrime38
      @TheLastPrime38 Před měsícem

      Exactly why I personally consider Verlander the best pitcher of the generation.

  • @stumason7003
    @stumason7003 Před 9 měsíci +13

    Only correction is that Felix Hernandez broke the barrier of W-L record

    • @PopRox
      @PopRox Před 8 měsíci

      For real. Those mariner teams were hard to watch.

  • @SmoothCriminal12
    @SmoothCriminal12 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Even as a Red Sox fan, Porcello had absolutely no business winning that award. Those 22 wins were a result of him having the best run support in the AL more than anything else. And that snub inadvertently led to Cole getting robbed in 2019.

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Před 9 měsíci +2

      Porcello had some business winning that award…but not as much as Verlander

  • @talmanyoung1431
    @talmanyoung1431 Před 9 měsíci +2

    My tigers caught hella strays 😭

  • @chriscampbell3417
    @chriscampbell3417 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Adam Wainwright has the Cy Young award all locked up! The others need not apply 🤣

  • @ticnatz
    @ticnatz Před 9 měsíci +2

    Interesting side note about Cuellar. I know being a 20 game winner is not a thing anymore, but Mike Cuellar was part of an interesting situation in 1971 (not his CY Young season). The Orioles rotation had 4 20-game winners that year (Cuellar, Dave McNally, Jim Palmer, & Pat Dobson). Only the 1920 White Sox can say that. Of course, 2 members of that staff never pitched again after 1920 because the were banned because of the Black Sox scandal.

  • @ghy201
    @ghy201 Před 9 měsíci +18

    2:20 king Felix had already started removing the stigma of not having many wins in 2010

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Před 9 měsíci

      That’s exactly what I first thought of as well. 2016 was already an aberration.

    • @unkledoda420
      @unkledoda420 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Soon as i heard it i thought the same thing, didn't King Felix win a CY with like 13 wins several years before Degrom?

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@unkledoda420
      13-12 record, iirc

    • @GizmoBeach
      @GizmoBeach Před 5 měsíci

      Nolan Ryan was every bit one of the best NL pitchers the year he went 8-16. His 2.76 led the league as did his 270 K's and his WHIP was 3rd best. Not bad for a 40-year old on a 76-86 team w/ poor offense.

  • @adamd5849
    @adamd5849 Před 9 měsíci +9

    I think that Steele is gonna be the Cy Young. His numbers are fantastic, but more than that, he's been pretty consistent all season. You're getting quality starts almost every time, giving the Cubs chances to win.
    Either way, this and the MVP race are giving us a meal with discussions. Baseball is in a good place

    • @loljuliowrld
      @loljuliowrld Před 9 měsíci

      i agree man. justin steele is a fantastic pitcher. the way he shut down the giants in a huge start was incredible as well.

    • @tractorcannon8487
      @tractorcannon8487 Před 8 měsíci

      @@loljuliowrldBlake snell just gave up only 1 hit to the dodgers.

    • @tractorcannon8487
      @tractorcannon8487 Před 8 měsíci

      Snells wins and walks don’t matter, because his walks usually don’t turn into runs because he has the lowest era and his wins aren’t his fault. The padres offense is just terrible.

    • @loljuliowrld
      @loljuliowrld Před 8 měsíci

      @@tractorcannon8487 I agree about the wins. Snell has been terrific but his hitters don't help him out at all. his walks are a different story tho, but i see what you mean. his walks don't matter cause they don't turn into runs

    • @loljuliowrld
      @loljuliowrld Před 8 měsíci

      @@tractorcannon8487 Steele did it in an important game in the heat of the playoff chase, that's why I mentioned it, but hats off

  • @tractorcannon8487
    @tractorcannon8487 Před 8 měsíci +2

    The only thing Justin Steele currently has on Blake snell is WHIP and Wins, that is not enough to win a CY young. At least it shouldn’t be enough.

  • @clutchdubs1051
    @clutchdubs1051 Před 9 měsíci +36

    Right now Justin Steele is leading the MLB in era. He is tied for the most wins in MLB. He has the 3rd most quality starts in the mlb. He deserves the cy young. Snell has the most walks in the MLB and his whip is horrendous. Without Justin Steele the cubs aren’t in the playoffs. I don’t think there is an argument against Justin Steele for the CY young

    • @PeteJones-ot8yg
      @PeteJones-ot8yg Před 9 měsíci

      Yes

    • @keijif1267
      @keijif1267 Před 9 měsíci +1

      completely agree

    • @mainmosquito1539
      @mainmosquito1539 Před 8 měsíci

      I might be a bit biased but I think gallen does still have strong contention if he doesn't throw away his last few starts, Steele has like 160 innings compared to his around 190 and I think the 200 ip mark might be the x factor

    • @tractorcannon8487
      @tractorcannon8487 Před 8 měsíci

      He’s not leading in era anymore

    • @tractorcannon8487
      @tractorcannon8487 Před 8 měsíci

      Yes there is. Snell’s era is currently better, has way more strikeouts, and has a .187 OBA while Steeles is horrendous at .242 the only thing Steele has on snell is WHIP and wins. That is not enough to win a CY young….

  • @mysic59
    @mysic59 Před 8 měsíci +1

    As a tigers fan, im in pain

  • @GizmoBeach
    @GizmoBeach Před 5 měsíci

    It'll be close next year when Joe Blow goes 7-8 in 38 starts w/ an ERA of 2.76 vs. Tom Shmucklehead and his 39 saves and 1.57 ERA across a whopping 36 innings. Remember when you had to WIN some games vs. having made-up WAR stats to smoke-mirror your stats?

  • @gm2723
    @gm2723 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Then there's the AL who handed out the cy young like a month ago and the MVP one judge got hurt.

  • @AlexMathiesen
    @AlexMathiesen Před 9 měsíci

    1:50 "Wainwright had the wins..." lol

  • @ccr35582
    @ccr35582 Před 8 měsíci

    Verlander absolutely should have won in 2016. Don’t get me wrong, his career accomplishments are ridiculous. But, that should have also been in there.

  • @muddylord1897
    @muddylord1897 Před 9 měsíci

    cant believe you would forget logan webb like this

  • @hibiskus2096
    @hibiskus2096 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I think Kodai Senga is 3rd right now in the Cy Young discussion, can't believe you ignored him.

    • @chuggaroo
      @chuggaroo Před 9 měsíci +2

      he’s up there but I wouldn’t say that far up there

    • @hibiskus2096
      @hibiskus2096 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@chuggaroo He is, better ERA than Strider and Gallen. Better SO/9 than Gallen, Steele. Better FIP than Snell. Better/Same HR/9 as Snell, Strider, Gallen. And finally a better ERA+ than Strider, Gallen.
      So yeah he is pretty clearly the number 3 guy to me. I'd say the thing that hurts him the most is his BB/9.

  • @noahargo9990
    @noahargo9990 Před 9 měsíci

    Moral of the story, Verlander has been close many times to winning even more Cy Young’s.

    • @GizmoBeach
      @GizmoBeach Před 5 měsíci

      Moral of the story: Verlander has earned about 72 trillion dollars throwing a baseball. I doubt he gives a crap about awards but would prefer not to be known as the guy who's gone 1-6 5.63 in the World Series despite his regular season success.

  • @threestwos
    @threestwos Před 9 měsíci +4

    Strider should not be in CY contention, when you have a 6 and 7 ERA in NDs and Ls I don't care how many Ks you get. Strikeouts and theoretical runs are not as important as real runs.

  • @davidberg3154
    @davidberg3154 Před 9 měsíci +1

    If Snell wins with all those walks then this award is tarnished forever

  • @dontbelikethesun
    @dontbelikethesun Před 8 měsíci

    Kodai senga has entered the chat. Don't think he will win but he should Garner votes.

  • @MikeyT1600
    @MikeyT1600 Před 9 měsíci

    Wheeler dark horse

  • @LennyRdr
    @LennyRdr Před 9 měsíci

    If Spencer can get his era down by 1 which is pretty much impossible he would win

  • @seen48
    @seen48 Před 9 měsíci

    Great content. Hey Tigers fans….howd’ya like those flash back pictures?!? Sorry…..

  • @vincentrussell6442
    @vincentrussell6442 Před 8 měsíci

    Justin steel all day

  • @samfish6841
    @samfish6841 Před 9 měsíci

    Adam wainwrights winning for sure

  • @Kluker7
    @Kluker7 Před 8 měsíci

    I am a Braves fan I also think snell should win

  • @nicholasrehmeier3273
    @nicholasrehmeier3273 Před 8 měsíci

    Gallen

  • @keijif1267
    @keijif1267 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Justin Steele for Cy Young. All of his stats have already been mentioned, so I'll just leave it at that.

  • @henrygagnon1547
    @henrygagnon1547 Před 9 měsíci

    Spencer Strider the strike out leader ❤❤❤

  • @XanderBlue720
    @XanderBlue720 Před 9 měsíci

    steele is going to win

  • @loljuliowrld
    @loljuliowrld Před 9 měsíci +1

    i think zack britton was robbed of the american league cy young in 2016

  • @mattpearss
    @mattpearss Před 9 měsíci +2

    Strider got Ks, Snell got more war than them all, Webb got the innings, and Steele got the ERA, ERA+, and wins but lacks innings though. Honestly, I go for Steele.

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Před 9 měsíci

      I don’t see how anyone could prefer Snell of these four, if only because he’s leading the league in walks.

  • @concertboots6718
    @concertboots6718 Před 9 měsíci

    Blake Snell has over 5 walks per 9 and is well on his way to leading the MLB with 100 walks this season. Saying that deserves a cy young is like saying Kyle Schwarber is having an MVP season.

    • @glusur76
      @glusur76 Před 9 měsíci

      Doesn't really matter if they don't score though the fact he has these numbers with that many walks is unheard of

    • @concertboots6718
      @concertboots6718 Před 8 měsíci

      @@glusur76 it costs him pitches and therefore innings. Yes it’s impressive that he allows so many runners without letting them score, but is that really as impressive as the guy that just allows less runners?

  • @kenny.brendan
    @kenny.brendan Před 9 měsíci +2

    I pray Steele doesn't get it. I smell for Snell!

  • @BraxtonMeyer
    @BraxtonMeyer Před 9 měsíci

    waht's important in cy young races isn't era. it's wins. strider has the most wins and most strikeouts so he's clearly going to win

  • @brianhunter4860
    @brianhunter4860 Před 9 měsíci

    Steele > Snell