What REALLY Happened To Ren.
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- čas přidán 6. 05. 2023
- Ren explains what actually happened to him, and why he ended up no longer signed to Sony Records. This an extract from my longform interview with him that you can watch here: • The Ren Interview.
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Very cool of you to do this interview and to aid in his journey! Your respect has been earned.
I just donated. 💷
Surprisingly, these illnesses seem too often misdiagnosed.
Thank you for posting this section of the interview. I am working on updating something written about Ren today and specifically this time period. You saved me from having to hunt for it. Are transcripts made of the interviews you do? If so where are they? Written sources are preferred and considered more reliable over video by the site the article is on. It is all about being able to check for accuracy
I just donated. Thank you Justin for your music and more recently for your content and views. Ren for the first time ever I believe I will listen to more of your music than I do the Gallagher's! I share your music with everyone I meet. I believe you are a generational talent.
here's how special this kids arms reach my mam is 75 she loves him i'm 56 i love him my daughter is 34 she loves him my grandson is 19 he loves him now that is spirit i can only put him on part with shakespear thanks for this interview you did a sterling job❤️
I appreciate you stopped talking to really let Ren get it all out! Realizing that's what he needed to do was very caring of you. I respect that!
He was also considerate enough to only start talking the one time so he didn't get too emotional where it was gonna make it harder to complete the interview.
As someone with both auto inflammatory and intractable pain, I look at young people like Ren and want to continue the fight for people with invisible illness in the US. Whether it be physical or mental illness, there are many of us out there without a voice. He tells the story of many, except we’re not brilliant lyricists with badass guitar skills.
Fantastic that you gave him such a big platform to address all the rumours and get the truth out there. Excellent interview in so many ways. Thank you both!
I agree he has really good skills as everyone else just talks about the artist who is sitting right in front of them . They don’t really allow them to answer as they are always over talking others .
@@charisselinnell-morton4137 I appreciate your sentiment but Ren already had a bigger "platform" here on CZcams =)
@@ryanzeigler9763 I don’t understand your comment. I was saying I enjoy the interview as he is letting Ren speak . I have noticed some people who interview others don’t listen and they just talk. I was just saying that it was an insightful and thoughtful conversation.
Thank you so much Ren & Justin 🙏🏽❤️
"such a big platform" Ren has double the subs this guy does. He didn't give him a big platform. He's trying to share the one Ren built.
Justin. I did watch the whole interview when it dropped. But re-watching this section, I'm reminded about how moved I was at how you took over and changed the subject when it was clear that Ren was becoming emotional about telling the story of his health issues. You could have milked it to get more emotional impact. But instead you did the kind thing so he could regain his composure. You are a gem mate!!!
I noticed a break in the video about the time the health issues were being discussed. I have a feeling it was edited out as Ren became emotional, although I don't think there's anything wrong with crying or breaking down when discussing such personal and painful topics, it just shows you're human.
I noticed that too.
Good man for helping our guy out ❤
That's really good to notice that too and of course, it should be not surprising that anyone or this man has integrity. I'm glad as well.
It’s amazing hearing Ren share his story. And he is becoming a voice for the countless people suffering in silence from chronic diseases and chronic pain that have been undiagnosed or misdiagnosed. So thank you for sharing this excerpt so that more people can see it.
I’m so proud of Ren for not giving up and for channeling his experiences so beautifully through his art. Not only through “Hi Ren” but “Sick Boi,” “Crutch,” “Patience,” “Diazepam,” “Chalk Outlines,” and many more.
Ren is becoming a voice of a generation with a strong message to share. And he is building an incredible community around him. It’s incredible what he’s been able to accomplish as an independent artist!
What amazes me and what I love is he reaches all ages, I've seen comments of appreciation from teens to people in their 60's and 70's
@@BrickNewton yes! It’s remarkable that Ren has touched such a broad demographic - age groups, ethnicities, backgrounds, walks of life. He has a gift
FFS. Its a Brit thing trying to be the biggest victim. Blah blah blah.
I'm in my 60s, and love Ren. I've always love music that tells stories about people, going back to The Kinks, Blockheads, lots of folk and country music. This is what's been missing from music for a while but the audience has always been there.
A very sensitive and compassionate interview between a very articulate Ren opening up fully, and the usual beautiful and articulate Justin sitting back and letting Ren vent. Powerful on a few levels.
I think Justin has the good sense to realise that all of the things Ren talks about here are what makes Ren Ren, and with Justin being an artist who's keen to understand a fellow artist's motivations, given the wholly confessional nature of that fellow artist's work, there's almost an inevitability to his stepping back, almost. It helps, of course, that Justin is also deliciously self-aware, which is an excellent trait for a rock star.
Ren is doing way more than "making waves", he is creating a worldwide tsunami that is rolling through and affecting so many on so many levels. ❤
It's amazing how often Lyme disease goes misdiagnosed or totally undiagnosed. His spirit to keep forcing the issue brings me hope.
Justin, I love that you let Ren speak. Most who interview him cut him off and want to hear themselves speak. Your questions were original, organic, and you listened for his answers which was amazing, you even let him pause and gave him room to continue on with another thought that we wouldn't have heard otherwise ♡ . Thanks Justin for this! Love the entire almost 2hr interview
I'm awe-struck listening to Ren's journey to discovering he had lyme disease. fuck, Ren's dogged tenacity in searching for an answer is amazing
I took care of a woman who had Lyme disease and being totally confused by it and how detrimental it is. I listened and learned and I commend him for getting all this done while sick. Takes a real soul.
For anyone who doesn't understand why we hardcore love Ren, this illuminates it perfectly. I, for one, love his heart & spirit. 💖 He shines. & that's not to mention he's impossibly musical and brilliant on every level! He shines like the truest star in the darkest skies. 💫
Agreed! His Spirit Shines!
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Ren has a sensitive and open spirit, plus he is humble. I think his health issues, have molded him into the person he is today. You don't see the obnoxious ego in him that you see in many celebrities today. He is down-to-earth and very human.
Ren you are amazing! You absolutely do shine!! You inspire! Thankyou for your openess to the ones who love you! Your talent inspires us!! Really, THANK YOU❤
The love of music has been with me ever since my early teens and I'm 64 now. Every now and again you come across someone who makes you stop and pay a little more attention to what they're doing and Ren is one of those guys.
He has a talent that comes across in so many ways both musically and lyrically and I feel he's destined to be remembered whether he becomes huge commercially or not.
He's a very articulate young man and expresses himself extremely well. Amazing that he's had to go through so much with his health problems and is still producing a unique body of work. I am really chuffed for him and wish him all the very best in his future endeavours.
Excellent interview Justin. I like how you just sit back and let Ren speak without constantly interrupting him. People like Jonathon Ross and Graham Norton could do with watching you.
You are so right. Mid fifties here and just discovered Ren for the first time yesterday… mind blown! Not just his music but the accompanying character…. What an amazing young lad. He deserves everything good to happen after all he’s been though. Well done Justin for giving him the space to tell his story and speak uninterrupted.
@@SchussinBoots I echo your comment, the only difference being that I'm a generation older than you. An intelligent friend introduced me to Ren less than three hours ago. There are many good things to learn from this exemplary human being.
Honestly, as someone who suffers from autoimmune disease… several actually. It typically takes 7 years to diagnosis, and if you are marginalized, even longer. We’ve all been there, having a doctor rely solely on a CBC and telling you there’s nothing wrong. I challenged a doctor, was called mentally ill for doing so, and let go from his practice with a scathing letter defiling my character, all because I refused to accept the little bit of diagnostics he’d done. I get the journey he’s been on, as do many others in the same boat, and it shouldn’t be that way. It just shouldn’t.
I’m right there with you. It’s a horrible life on the sidelines.
Yep...well said both of you. . We've been written off as collateral. The whole system in medicine needs a massive overhaul. Decades behind the cutting edge
Typical response from most Dr's. I completely understand. I have 7 autoimmune diseases and now suffer with cancer which is also typical from having specific types of autoimmune diseases. When I heard his song I cried for days because finally I met someone who understood that was releasing music which was huge. Good luck with your illnesses and make sure to get checkups for cancer often.
My doctor wouldn’t test for Lyme, despite my having been bitten by ticks.
I already have a number of autoimmune diseases, and feel like sh*t more often than not.
@@SuziQ. seems ridiculous that they wouldn't test. Not sure of your country, insurance, etc. But if you're paying, (or they're getting paid) is crazy that they wouldn't check. (Insert quotes from money game 1 or 2 and crucify your culture) so sad how humanity treats each other sometimes. I hope you're doing better
So unfortunate that Ren spent years finding only the worst of doctors, the ones who don't do a finger more than the minimum. His tears make me feel sorry for him, for me, for everyone struggling. If you feel "crazy", record stuff with your phone and use doctors and friends to show what's real and what's not, there are ways, keep fighting guys. Ren survived for us, let's live well
When he said "this is gonna be my contribution and I'll probably die in a few years... and um, yeah". I absolutely felt that. That pause and breath resonated in me. Be strong brother and I hope you find your strength and purpose to push forward.
This world needs people like Ren.
And you,
too.
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I only discovered Rens music a couple of months ago and quite frankly he's one of the best artists I've heard.....but not only that he's real.....he shares his inner self with us openly.....this makes him very special....no gimmicks no bs....just real art and raw talent.....amazing human being
I can't imagine how hard it must have been to have dealt with all those symptoms for so many years without having any answers... Just shows how strong he actually is to still be fighting and working through them rather than just giving up ...
Such an incredible talent that I hope gets the publicity and promotion he deserves in future.
I can .30 years. There's about a million of us if you include long COVID...no one cares
he deserves it for so long, not because of his illness.
@@j.w.213 Erm I never said he didn't deserve it and certainly never said anything about his illness being related to his success?
Kinda scary how you got that interpretation from what I wrote or are you getting confused with someone else's comments??
Thanks Justin for your support of Ren. He is a rare talent who deserves to be huge.
This man has been a tremendous inspiration to me since January. Thank you, Justin for sharing "Hi Ren" back then.
Justin, it was incredibly kind of you to give Ren positive affirmations, especially when he started to get emotional about the bleak state of his health. You are a gift, sir.
Its so hard to see Ren so hurt by these memories and his fear of genuinely feeling he would die at that time i just wanted to put my arms around him. Its amazing to see him doing better and can only hope he goes from strength to strength .Making up for lost time and using his struggle to fuel his creativity will set fire to the world ❤xx
🤟you amazing star dusted soul
U could see him start to choke up at a point but he got cut off. I think he was a bit relieved at the same time. He just shook it off like he wasn't about to get upset..smh.. he's such a beautiful human being. I do hope he gets better and gets to fulfill his dreams.. I think he'd be a wonderful actor as well.. he seems to be comfortable acting in his videos. I just can't get enough...still...lol.
Hope everyone is doing well and has a great day! ❤
@@jenniferedwards9005 I think Justin was wise to step in because Ren was faltering. As others said, it was a kind thing to do.
As someone who has suffered from autoimmune disease since 15 years old...and also suffers from profound mental illness I admire and recognize Ren's struggle to be an artist in spite of life and what it has dealt him. Being misunderstood by the medical community is heartbreaking....I am in a situation where they know what I have but not how to treat it....
It's saddening to hear the struggles one has to go through to stop suffering from illness... It's also absolutely insane and ridiculous in this day and age that people still have to go through that. Luckily Ren was strong and kept at it, others aren't as lucky as him. Docs think, oh sorry mate, we already spent so much money on you, we don't want to run another test. It's absolutely insane and the wrong way of doing things for someone in that profession of making people better.... I hope Ren's stories keep getting circulated and help bring awareness to the problems in the medical industry. And to just bring hope to those that suffer... there is always a way, it might be hard to find, but it's there. You can't give up.
REN probably saved my life by sharing this, because I've been suffering from the exact same shit and it's been a TRUE HELL. - THANK YOU SO MUCH REN! And for everyone who wonders who he is and if he's worth checking out; He's a true artist! Got a big spectrum of diversity in his songs, so don't judge one by the other... I really feel he treats his music as art and my favorites are very deep, authentic ARTistery!
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Found him Through Justin.
I really am a crotchety "they don't make em like they used to" kind of guy, but was blown away by him.
He's a genius.
Poor kid, he's actually very talented, listened to some of his songs after part of that full interview. Wish him the best, and good health - seems like such a nice guy.
I used to see Ren about Brighton all the time, busking and playing with The Big Push, mad to think how much shit he was going through those times. Glad he's doing good now. His track Money Game (part 2) is a banger by the way
I was finally able to listen to this whole interview, oh my gosh, Ren near identical Lyme story . You are my hero musically and as a Lyme survivor .
That moment where he confronts he may have died a couple of years from his album release, you can see the pain 🥺 there’s not many of us confront our own mortality like that so young
Thank you Justin for allowing Ren to talk. I think he was glad to get stuff off his chest.
Jesus Ren, its like a mirror of my life listening to you trying everything, searching everywhere. A pain specialist, after I'd asked about something I googled, said Stop looking for a cause or a cure and accept you've been unlucky. ! It broke me. ❤
I’m so sorry someone you hoped would help you, hurt you. Stay strong ❤🩹
Same, but the morphine patches help :(
My heart goes out to him
He’s such a courageous young man and persistent
And generous too for sharing his pain and learning with us
Dividing your activities between ‘content’ and ‘art’. Love that. Great conversation. 👍🏼
FOR ANYONE WHO CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW INCREDIBLE REN IS JUST RESEARCH HOW UTTERLY DEBILITATING LYMES DISEASE ACTUALLY IS AND YET HE GIVES US THE MOST AMAZING GIFTS OF HIS ALL ENCOMPASSING ART IS JUST BEYOND WHAT IVE SEEN ANY OTHER ARTIST DO
The full interview is a must watch even if it is nearly 2 hours
The full video is so good I didn’t even see the time fly by - its like HI Ren - everyone went - 9 min music vid ??!! I will give it a glance then before I knew it I had watched it 3 times in a row bawling my eyes out .
Especially*
Such a crazy and difficult journey. I'm so glad Ren is getting better. I believe he would've been great without his pain, but I appreciate the fact that he's not shy about using it. It's something that breaks a lot people. Now those people have a voice. I was one of those people. I've fought my own demons, I'm in a great place now, but I could've easily been someone who succumbed to them.
Thanks Justin, more clarity is much needed in the world.
Thanks a heap for sharing this again, Justin. ❤ Ren is loved and cherished by so many.
Great job Justin 😊 The whole interview was awesome.
I’ve only really discovered Ren a couple of months thanks to you Justin since then it’s been an ride I never expected I would take it’s been emotional and uplifting to hear everything so far all the best and I hope all the goals set out are achieved
I know exactly the frustration he felt. My doctors have been doing the same to me for 8 years so far. I'm not giving up.
Great interview again Justin! Such a refreshing experience to have someone let a guest share his story without a need to interject and lead the interview . Your both amazing talents ❤
This was a super engaging interview. Just watched the whole thing in one shot (a feat for me) well done Justin and Ren
Your so patient and understanding, so patient and listening, not just waiting for your turn to talk. I am tremendously thankful for you
This interview is awesome - I watched the full one and it was well worth a watch for anyone who admires Ren and is curious about his story and journey.
Wonderful interview. I have been noticing many online interviewers talk but don’t listen to the artist . I am so happy to see Ren talk as he is a genuine and talented man who is humble and has such a gift .Great content and always looking forward to seeing what Ren does next!
Much respect that you knew when to just listen, and let him speak his truth. You're a good man.
Thank you for a great interview mr hawkins. Happily donated. Clever title. Love it. Thanks again... 🎶🤘🏼
Great interview and glad Ren was able to get that out on the table with you...keep kickin ass!
Good interview. I haven’t heard REN talk about his dark period before this. I knew he had been seriously sick, but had no idea what it was like. I discovered REN years ago through the Big Push busking on CZcams. I liked his collaborations a lot. Such talent. Thanks Justin
Thanks for sharing Ren's go fund me page Justin, you are a lovely human being. Loved this interview.
What a fantastic interview. Justin you really brought the best out of Ren. You're relaxed style allowing Ren to express and explain the horrific journey he has been on was heartwarming. Ren is an incredible talent and an amazing human being who is now hopefully on the mend...hopefully!!
Good on you for getting Ren's trust with your patience and empathy.
Thank you...
Music is the food of love...❤🎶👍
I love Ren so much. I've never heard any other artist who gets so much of the pain in life. My life has been very similar except I don't have his talent. I can't wait to hear more from this major talent.
This broke my heart , so glad you found out what it was , you are a strong, amazing individual with so much talent and I’m completely blown away by your music x
Hi Justin! Good of you to highlight this snippet to help get the story straight. Also, FYI you linked this snippet in your description when you meant to point to the longer interview. I hope you can fix this ❤
What an amazing clarification.
It's tragic our health service is so bad at assessing sick patients properly. Ren's experiences are not uncommon and with Lyme Disease on the increase in the UK there needs to be competent services to deal with it. Unfortunately some people get diagnosed with fibromyalgia and get sent for pain management education rather than being given the care and support they need. The saddest thing of all is the gaslighting that goes on, which causes another layer of distress and mental health problems for people who are very sick and isolated already.
Ren is doing so much to bring hope and understanding while sharing his artistic brilliance.
Much love ❤x
@J When there's been injuries or a lot of ongoing pain that hasn't been treated properly, central sensitivity can kick in that gets written off as fibromyalgia too. The big problem is no one wants to manage these patients because they're often time consuming, costly and complicated. The success of 'pain management education' is highly questionable but still offered as the only service available to some. Even if a positive Lyme diagnosis is made outside the UK, it's still hard to get that recognised and treated. What's needed is more sensitive testing, comprehensive assessment and a management plan that works. As an ex nurse, I find the lack of care and competence shocking.
It is so good to see you and you seem to be doing well. Hopefully, that is true behind the scenes as well. Your music and message is important
He’s brilliant, independent, creative, unstoppable soul shaker & looks dapper in pink . Ren deserves the moon all health 🤌✨🖤🌙🥰
How rare and refreshing to see genuine honesty and humility. I love this guy.
I feel so sorry for you Ren, everything you had to go trough and still are going trough..and so proud of you for being such a fighter and still being there for your fans en keeping making music for us as well. Your an angel! ❤
Wonderful to hear this story.. fair play for being so persistent and resilient in that journey discovering lime disease. Such a epic human 🙌
Great that Ren was able to set the record straight, and thanks for giving the platform, Justin.
This made me really grateful for my health. Thankyou to both of you
Ty ten for such a vulnerable open interview. Ty Justin for listening. God bless you both❤
After recently discovering Ren thanks to you Justin, im absolutely in awe, his lyrics strike a chord in me and his story resonates so much, i was misdiagnosed and ignored for years until finally i collapsed with kidney failure leading to a diagnosis and many months of chemo, so many times ive nearly given up but now I'm a huge fan of Ren and he's helping me to fight on.❤
Thank you for this. Ren is phenomenal, and so many people relate to his mental health struggles and frustrations with “the system” being thoroughly dismissive of their situations. Much love to Ren, and thanks again for putting him in blast for people who haven’t heard of him yet.
I hope you do not die anytime soon. Your lyrics are profound and real and I have been very impressed by your artistry. Strangely, I have come to really respect and care for you personally because you put so much heart into your lyrics and share your soul so openly and honestly that it gives people a glimpse into who you are, which creates a kind of intimacy. I wish you health and happiness and I hope you thrive. And I hope you receive the recognition you deserve for your music.
Fascinating. What a great interview
Thank you for clearing the air on this topic. I'll admit I bought into the rumors. Good to hear the real story from the artist. Nice job, Sir!
Wow. What a journey. Glad Ren was strong enough to endure.
Ren, Thank you for persevering. I'm so sorry so many medical systems so deeply let you down. I am so grateful you finally learned what was going on in your body. So glad you are healing and able to share your music, you are a gift. Justin, thank you for this interview.
Hi Ren! So nice to hear your story. Keep being you and creating your unique and fantastic art.
Great interview! I'm so glad he was able to get some truth to his fans. It's been like a game of telephone with information about Ren on the internet. I'm not sure why people felt they needed to embellish it; the truth about his illness and how long it's taken to get answers and treatment is tragic enough. My heart breaks for him, but I'm so glad he's finally getting the right treatment now.
Thank you so much for this! It feels like first you are too young to get proper help, then too old. Too fat, too thin. Too everything but getting taken seriously. So many people have these issues, globally. Just not being taken seriously, while suffering. It is amazing that someone talks about it so publicly. Because healthy people have no idea, how bad this gets. I did not have a full picture until my best friend, whom I lost recently. Especially disabled people need a lot more support.
Wow. What a wild story. Glad he’s on the mend. What a talent. Thanks for posting!
Much Love to Ren!! Thank you Justin! God bless you both!
Thank you Justin, it's rly important people hear this. There have been a LOT of plain wrong comments about this topic. (as comments about Hi Ren and one-take)
What a sad sad journey he has been on, damn, I’m glad he’s turning that all around all by himself ❤
Thank you for this interview Justin. Listening to Ren's struggle has led me to donate to his gofundme page. I watched him busk in Brighton around 2016/17 and started following him but didn't know his back story. I think his music was ahead of its time back then but now the world is ready for Ren!
I would agree with Ren around the Google self diagnosis. I was prescribed a course of drugs that gave me negative life affecting symptoms that no one was expecting. After months of struggling to function normally, I decided to Google potential drug conflicts and sure enough, one of the drugs I was given, shouldn't have been taken with the other. The doctor's answer was...."oh yes, you shouldn't take that with that, you should stop that now"! No admission, just brush it aside and move on. I'm not saying Googling symptoms is right most of the time but sometimes, a little self check is worth it, particularly if no one seems to have the answer.
Good luck Ren!
YOU DONT NEED SONY - YOUR A GENIUS
AWESOME!!!
Press records also 👌🏽❤️
Glad to see you're now on top
Thank you for the interview! ❤
Great interview 👍 thanks Justin & Ren 😊
Cheers for giving time to not just music, what goes into it and tha peoples lives behind it. Rens story thus far is successful, but many know how different things can turn out. Dialogues like this are NEEDED.
What a lovely young man I'm sure Justin if needed is gonna be at the end of the phone. Thank you for your honesty
Thank you for sharing this important information. Sorry that Ren had to wait some more time . the limiting force was maybe a positive one for him to come up at the best time for us all and for the whole world.
Didn’t know who Ren was till Justin. His music has hit me deeply. Listening to Ren speak his truth, journey, and advocacy for himself brings light to the darkness. His strength and perseverance is inspiring and gives me hope. Continued success Ren.
This had me in tears for the trials of this genius young man, whose work just blows my over 50yo mind in its brilliance. My elderly mum had Lyme’s and it took her 15 months of begging GPs for a Lyme blood test which after so many refusals they relented and gave her and of course she was positive. It’s an awful and debilitating disease. It makes me so mad that medical professionals are so reluctant to test for it and would rather accuse people of hypochondria than actually investigate. It damaged mums heart and nerve tissues permanently and much of that damage could have been avoided by earlier action. I cannot applaud young Ren enough for his tenacity and courage. I hope he shares more of his creativity with the world, he deserves every success.
Hi, Ren. I love you for being so human. I just discovered you today and I think you are a genius. Thank you again and love for being so human.
Ren must be protected at all costs.
Excellent interview. Down to earth. 👍
Love you Ren, i found your music just in the darkest times of my life
We can't lose him
I have liked every one of the episodes, interviews... But as well my favourites are the ones where you and Jenny May Finn discuss about different things, i am really looking forward the next of them. Waiting for tomorrow evening!
wow, and i thought i went through a lot with so many doctors therapists and other conventional diagnostic channels! the way you kept fighting, and even going outside of 'traditional' theories and pracices to finally get the answer to most of your problems is awe inspiring!
It’s like watching a big brother, listening and genuinely caring. I love this…. ❤
🙌Superb interview!🙌
I’ve become a Ren fan thanks to Justin Hawkins Rides Again.
Same... I'm very thankful for the introduction
Also how I found Ren, top lad 😊
Bless you all ! Share his music if you could, it would help getting his amazing music out there
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