When I got the 33 1.4 it blew my mind with its image quality. I got even more impressed with the 18 1.4, because it gives images special, unique rendering (sharper in small details and generally dreamy look) and the lens can focus a lot closer than the 33 1.4. However, I know you're not a fan of 18 1.4.
Great, I ordered both! Have received the 33 and waiting for the 18 this week. Got the JJC square hood for both. They feel great quality and I am glad I didn't buy the original at double the price.
I've owned the 33mm F1.4 for quite some time, but recently decided to pick up the 23mm F2 as well. I was lacking something a little bit wider, AND was missing something TINY and light, for when I'm gonna be walking around a lot on whatever holiday destination. I've had limited testing with the 23mm F2, but so far, really enjoying it. 23mm is definitely a vibe and I think I'm fine with just having the F2 and not the F1.4
I got the 56mm f1.2 R WR as my first prime and it was so difficult to use as my only lens. Jumped on the 33mm f1.4 R LM WR and it has been on my camera 80% of the time now i love it. Also love your shirt.
Same here. The new 23 just lacks a certain wow factor in the rendering that the old lens had. The sharpness and close focussing is certainly it's own wow factor, but that's more of a party trick that for a 23 that is a very versatile focal length and I just don't feel it's as well rounded. It feels like it's designed for another purpose. The viltrox 27 feels closer to the original 23. The close focussing is a lot of fun though and I prefer it to the 30 2.8 for this. But I pretty much build any kit around the 18+33 now.
@@brownbear100I am also thinking of getting the Fuji 18 or the 27 Viltrox - But usually I went for the 23 and 56APD… maybe 18 33 and 56 would be a better fit now for my work. I also loved the 50/1.0 but I already to not take the 75 out too much
I got the 23 mm lm wr 1.4 and the 35 mm f2 and the Sigma 56 mm 1.4 Perfect . But the 33mm 1.4 is a very nice lens. If I would start I would take the 33 f 1.4 ❤
Great video as always. I will probably have to get both after I get x-t5… I am just curios to find out how great they are on the x-trans t sensor… At the moment Fujicrons 23/35 f2 I used very often on my x-t2/x-t3 and I love both focal lengths and I hope I will add these new ones sometime in the future
The 23mm lens has been my go to lens since 2018. I started with the f2 and transitioned to the 1.4 WR and 80% of the time it's on my XH1, now on my XH2s. I love the 35mm look (focal length) because it is more versatile, even with portraits. I just got a 33mm 1.4 recently but I rarely use it. It does not give a certain "bang" to my photos. Might sell off the 33mm.
With the 18mm on 40mp sensor if you shoot at f/1.4 and crop it to a 6000x4000 (24mp) image, you pretty much get a 23mm f/1.8 equivalent. Image quality will be a little downgraded compared to using the new 23mm, including at high ISO comparisons. I think 23 & 33 is a bit close together, but every lens has its purpose. 😇 I currently prefer seeing the 23 & 56 used for portraits and 18 & 33 for scenery, and I'm split when it comes to 16 and wider (I love funky wide-angle portraits). 🙈I love seeing the 18 used for establishing scenes in a neutral way (nothing shouting for your attention, save that for wider lenses), the 23 for portraits/scenes with symmetry, the 33 for capturing abstract details that tells a larger story, and the 56 for capturing candid moments between 2+ people. ☺ Edit: Fixed the aperture equivalence.
Actually, I think cropping the 18mm f/1.4 to a 23mm will result in something equivalent to an f/1.8 and not f/2.2. The respective ISO would be 8000. You would have 31MP left. I did the math because I use my 18mm f/1.4 to crop it to 23mm and works very well!
@@pithaupert I shot both lenses on a tripod from the same spot, and I can confirm that I needed to crop the 18 to 23.9mp to match the 23. 🥲 Maybe we're using different methods.
Your crop factor from 18mm to 23mm is determined by dividing 23mm by 18mm = 1,27778. Since you crop into the sensor you divide the amount of pixels 40MP by the Crop Factor 1,27778 = 31,3 MP. That's the amount of resolution you have left. If you have less then you simply crop to more than 23mm leading to less resolution being available. But in the end the whole math is not important as long as you frame and crop your shot in a compositionally appealing way! 😆@@SquirrelHybrid
@@pithaupert I think you need to do 23² ÷ 18² = 1.63 because you're calculating for a square instead of a line. 🙂 40mp ÷ 1.63 = 24.5mp -f/1.4 x 1.63 = f/2.28- (edit: this is wrong)
Great post.. I also feel a reason to own both 23 and 35. I would like to try the 18 and pair with with 35 but I've been using the 23 for so long now and comfortable with the focal length and feels wide enough.my dream would be to get the 100vi and have 35 and 56 with xt line..but that might be tricky convincing my wife.ahahaha
@Iamtongue ahahaha..Maybe fuji will release a 23 pancake lens down the road.then the x-t is close enough to the v.but maybe I'm dreaming. Either way I agree that having both 23 and 33 is great.high five...
@@Iamtongue I loved it but got the sigma 18-50 and most of the time I was shooting with the 1.4 was at 2.8 or so, and I missed the 35mm field of view from when I had the Sony!
Without discussing specific lenses does a photographer need a 23mm (35mm) and a 33mm (50mm) in his collection... I guess that is down to the photographer, can he make do with one or the other, Probably The Distortion from the 23mm is so hard to notice when a photo is looked at on its own but it is present, maybe not enough that it matters, and the slight distortion can be used creatively. For years I shot almost exclusively with the old XF 35mm F/1.4, portraits, landscapes, city everything why, it was the only lens I had. Now I shoot with a 23mm and 56mm, the 35mm is still there and still get used, just not part of my everyday carry kit. I don't think the focal lengths are too close to be one or the other they can't do the same job to the same standard, both have limitations. If the issue is budget.... there are probably other options that are better suited. E.g. pick up one fast prime from a 3rd party, then pick up a 3rd party F/2.8 zoom. If you are on a budget, the price of the XF 23mm F/1.4 will probably get you the Sigma 23mm F/1.4 DC DN and the 18-50 F/2.8 DC DN zoom, is the Sigma 23mm as good as the Fuji... I honestly don't know, I've never shot them side by side but it is a very nice lens in my opinion that I happily use for professional work
I prefer to think in kits, not lenses, so while I have certainly have some overlap especially around the 14-55 range, it doesn't feel that way to me as these lenses can be the backbone of a number of kits. It also helps be to avoid lens paralysis to have go-to kits. So for a lightweight fun kit, I might build a kit around the 16+30. Travel and documentary: 18+33 or 14+23+56 Casual nature and wildlife: 23 + 70-300 Etc. I'mf love to trim down the lenses, but I fimd it really difficult to let any of the new 1.4 lenses go. I do debate swapping back to the 35 and old 23 for the character, but actually the viltrox 27 offers that character and sits between the two. The small lenses will probably go for the x100vi though, and I certainly can imagine having two 23s!
That's the path I have gone! You can easily crop the 18mm f/1.4 to 23mm without much compromise while benefitting from its wider field of view if required!
Great video! I’m still torn between the 2. I have a 16-50 F2.8 already. And I don’t do professional work, just travel shots (streets, landscape, portraits). Do you recommend 23 or 33 for my use case?
@@Iamtongue Thanks! I got the 23mm now and also bought a 56mm. Together with my 16-50, I’m gonna try these on my next trip and decide which one to keep
Would not worry too much about sharpness, the only consideration to make is the aperture. An f/1.4 aperture will separate better and it will half your ISO value which is significant.
The Viltrox is easier to compose and separates a bit better. The 23mm is a bit more versatile and more compact. It really comes down to preferences I think!
it really is preferences. THe viltrox I feel is sharper than the XF 23mm... If i can choose between the 2 it would be the xf 23mm for the size. But Viltrox at this price cannot be beat.
FROM THAILAND >> U ARE CORRECT ITS NOT THE SAME AND I HAVE 16mm 23mm 33mm all F1.4 these two are fuji new generations lens >>and i also has 50mmf2.0 on my prime corrections and i feel that fuji 56mm f1.2 wr not that class ??
The 30mm macro might not have the prettiest bokeh, the fastest aperture, the sharpest edges, the best vignette control, or dramatic sunstars... but it runs circles around the 33 when it comes to size & weight, chromatic aberration control, smooth manual focusing, and macro. 😄
I'm torn between 23 f1.4 lm wr or the 33 f1.4 lm wr.. 😵💫 i watched almost all the review videos on youtube to help me decide which one to get. Gggrrr.... I got the 16mm f1.4 and the old 56mm 1.2. I need to complete my trio combo. 😵💫😵💫😵💫
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I love both! 23mm for group shots or landscape and 33mm for portraits
The XF 23mm f1.4 LM has insane clarity. That with the minimum focus distance makes it one of my favourite lenses I have used.
When I got the 33 1.4 it blew my mind with its image quality. I got even more impressed with the 18 1.4, because it gives images special, unique rendering (sharper in small details and generally dreamy look) and the lens can focus a lot closer than the 33 1.4. However, I know you're not a fan of 18 1.4.
Interesting... i will need to revisit that lens one day.
Great, I ordered both! Have received the 33 and waiting for the 18 this week. Got the JJC square hood for both. They feel great quality and I am glad I didn't buy the original at double the price.
@@lighthunter1980 I have the original for 33 1.4 and it's too heavy so I do not use it. The x-t5 leans forward with that lenscap.
I've owned the 33mm F1.4 for quite some time, but recently decided to pick up the 23mm F2 as well. I was lacking something a little bit wider, AND was missing something TINY and light, for when I'm gonna be walking around a lot on whatever holiday destination. I've had limited testing with the 23mm F2, but so far, really enjoying it. 23mm is definitely a vibe and I think I'm fine with just having the F2 and not the F1.4
Its most definitely a vibe!
I got the 56mm f1.2 R WR as my first prime and it was so difficult to use as my only lens. Jumped on the 33mm f1.4 R LM WR and it has been on my camera 80% of the time now i love it.
Also love your shirt.
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i love that stat! 😜🤭
I got both and for some reason I pick the 33 more often although I shot with the previous 23 for years as my single lens only.
me too....
Same here. The new 23 just lacks a certain wow factor in the rendering that the old lens had. The sharpness and close focussing is certainly it's own wow factor, but that's more of a party trick that for a 23 that is a very versatile focal length and I just don't feel it's as well rounded. It feels like it's designed for another purpose. The viltrox 27 feels closer to the original 23. The close focussing is a lot of fun though and I prefer it to the 30 2.8 for this. But I pretty much build any kit around the 18+33 now.
@@brownbear100I am also thinking of getting the Fuji 18 or the 27 Viltrox - But usually I went for the 23 and 56APD… maybe 18 33 and 56 would be a better fit now for my work. I also loved the 50/1.0 but I already to not take the 75 out too much
Easy going for the 23mm ! ❤
Like Julia Trotti once said: 23mm is versatile, while 33mm is romantic. Couldn't have said it better.
Myself I prefer Fujifilm 35mm f 1.4.
That's very good haha im going to actually use this next time :D
I love her videos as well!
5:32 that toneh, I laughed like crazy
I got the 23 mm lm wr 1.4 and the 35 mm f2 and the Sigma 56 mm 1.4 Perfect . But the 33mm 1.4 is a very nice lens. If I would start I would take the 33 f 1.4 ❤
I love my 23mm 1.4LM - together with my 35mm 1.4 ❤
I just got the 23 in the mail yesterday. Pairs well with my 56 1.2
It sure does!
Used to own the same combo. Amazing!
The 33 for sure 👍
yes!
Viltrox 27mm f/1.2. Falls in between both. 40mm Full frame equivalent.
Great video as always. I will probably have to get both after I get x-t5… I am just curios to find out how great they are on the x-trans t sensor…
At the moment Fujicrons 23/35 f2 I used very often on my x-t2/x-t3 and I love both focal lengths and I hope I will add these new ones sometime in the future
I ended up with the 18mm f1.4, 23mm f2 and 33mm f1.5. I thought they might have been too close so went with a cheaper middle ground
The review that we need.. thank you for your review on this two lens. 😊
Glad it was helpful!
I have 23 1.4 LM, it is perfect for my need 👌
Which lense is better for video ? Your Photos are all topnotch 😍
The 23mm is more versatile for video!
The 23mm lens has been my go to lens since 2018. I started with the f2 and transitioned to the 1.4 WR and 80% of the time it's on my XH1, now on my XH2s. I love the 35mm look (focal length) because it is more versatile, even with portraits. I just got a 33mm 1.4 recently but I rarely use it. It does not give a certain "bang" to my photos. Might sell off the 33mm.
With the 18mm on 40mp sensor if you shoot at f/1.4 and crop it to a 6000x4000 (24mp) image, you pretty much get a 23mm f/1.8 equivalent. Image quality will be a little downgraded compared to using the new 23mm, including at high ISO comparisons.
I think 23 & 33 is a bit close together, but every lens has its purpose. 😇 I currently prefer seeing the 23 & 56 used for portraits and 18 & 33 for scenery, and I'm split when it comes to 16 and wider (I love funky wide-angle portraits). 🙈I love seeing the 18 used for establishing scenes in a neutral way (nothing shouting for your attention, save that for wider lenses), the 23 for portraits/scenes with symmetry, the 33 for capturing abstract details that tells a larger story, and the 56 for capturing candid moments between 2+ people. ☺
Edit: Fixed the aperture equivalence.
Actually, I think cropping the 18mm f/1.4 to a 23mm will result in something equivalent to an f/1.8 and not f/2.2. The respective ISO would be 8000. You would have 31MP left. I did the math because I use my 18mm f/1.4 to crop it to 23mm and works very well!
@@pithaupert I shot both lenses on a tripod from the same spot, and I can confirm that I needed to crop the 18 to 23.9mp to match the 23. 🥲 Maybe we're using different methods.
both yall are nerds and I love it it's cuz i would have never think of doing this stuff. It aint mathing in my brain LOL
Your crop factor from 18mm to 23mm is determined by dividing 23mm by 18mm = 1,27778. Since you crop into the sensor you divide the amount of pixels 40MP by the Crop Factor 1,27778 = 31,3 MP. That's the amount of resolution you have left. If you have less then you simply crop to more than 23mm leading to less resolution being available. But in the end the whole math is not important as long as you frame and crop your shot in a compositionally appealing way! 😆@@SquirrelHybrid
@@pithaupert I think you need to do 23² ÷ 18² = 1.63 because you're calculating for a square instead of a line. 🙂
40mp ÷ 1.63 = 24.5mp
-f/1.4 x 1.63 = f/2.28- (edit: this is wrong)
Alternatively, one might get the Viltrox 27mm f/1.2 to replace both😉
that too!
Great post.. I also feel a reason to own both 23 and 35. I would like to try the 18 and pair with with 35 but I've been using the 23 for so long now and comfortable with the focal length and feels wide enough.my dream would be to get the 100vi and have 35 and 56 with xt line..but that might be tricky convincing my wife.ahahaha
it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission ;) LOL jk don't do that....
@Iamtongue ahahaha..Maybe fuji will release a 23 pancake lens down the road.then the x-t is close enough to the v.but maybe I'm dreaming. Either way I agree that having both 23 and 33 is great.high five...
I choose both😂, those are my only 2 primes!!! I let go the 18mm 1.4 for the 23mm
Oh no way! What was wrong with the 18mm?
@@Iamtongue I loved it but got the sigma 18-50 and most of the time I was shooting with the 1.4 was at 2.8 or so, and I missed the 35mm field of view from when I had the Sony!
Regardless of the lens, your images just look dope! 👏
thank you!
A curveball, but im getting the 18 1.4 for my filmmaking
i wasn't expecting that hahaha
Without discussing specific lenses does a photographer need a 23mm (35mm) and a 33mm (50mm) in his collection...
I guess that is down to the photographer, can he make do with one or the other, Probably
The Distortion from the 23mm is so hard to notice when a photo is looked at on its own but it is present, maybe not enough that it matters, and the slight distortion can be used creatively.
For years I shot almost exclusively with the old XF 35mm F/1.4, portraits, landscapes, city everything why, it was the only lens I had.
Now I shoot with a 23mm and 56mm, the 35mm is still there and still get used, just not part of my everyday carry kit.
I don't think the focal lengths are too close to be one or the other they can't do the same job to the same standard, both have limitations.
If the issue is budget.... there are probably other options that are better suited.
E.g. pick up one fast prime from a 3rd party, then pick up a 3rd party F/2.8 zoom. If you are on a budget, the price of the XF 23mm F/1.4 will probably get you the Sigma 23mm F/1.4 DC DN and the 18-50 F/2.8 DC DN zoom, is the Sigma 23mm as good as the Fuji... I honestly don't know, I've never shot them side by side but it is a very nice lens in my opinion that I happily use for professional work
I prefer to think in kits, not lenses, so while I have certainly have some overlap especially around the 14-55 range, it doesn't feel that way to me as these lenses can be the backbone of a number of kits. It also helps be to avoid lens paralysis to have go-to kits.
So for a lightweight fun kit, I might build a kit around the 16+30.
Travel and documentary: 18+33 or 14+23+56
Casual nature and wildlife: 23 + 70-300
Etc.
I'mf love to trim down the lenses, but I fimd it really difficult to let any of the new 1.4 lenses go. I do debate swapping back to the 35 and old 23 for the character, but actually the viltrox 27 offers that character and sits between the two. The small lenses will probably go for the x100vi though, and I certainly can imagine having two 23s!
If you already own the 35 1.4 would you suggest going for the 18 1.4 instead of the 23 1.4?
That's the path I have gone! You can easily crop the 18mm f/1.4 to 23mm without much compromise while benefitting from its wider field of view if required!
Makes sense!@@pithaupert
I don't know which lens I would pick but I would 100% go with that shirt!
HAH thank you
35 1.4 :)
❤
great work, keep it up
you got it!
I have the 23mm f1.4 - a bit too heavy to lug around.
Great video! I’m still torn between the 2. I have a 16-50 F2.8 already. And I don’t do professional work, just travel shots (streets, landscape, portraits). Do you recommend 23 or 33 for my use case?
Oh and I don’t mind selling off the 16-50 if maybe a 18mm + 33mm create nicer shots
23mm, its more versatile imo
@@Iamtongue Thanks! I got the 23mm now and also bought a 56mm. Together with my 16-50, I’m gonna try these on my next trip and decide which one to keep
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cheers hoang :D
What happened to the Viltrox 27? And if you kept all three, what gets used for what?
It's around, i don't use mostly because of the size.
Plan to buy Fujifilm xt-30 ii, which lens should i started, please help me ❤
kit lens
What you think about the 23mm and 56mm if u got that in my kit for portraits and events
its a good combo
A bigger question is 23mm lm wr vs x100vi, in terms of image quality and bokeh
IQ on the 23mm lmwr is obviously much better using the same sensor (XT5). The VI lens doesn’t hold up at 40MP.
Would not worry too much about sharpness, the only consideration to make is the aperture. An f/1.4 aperture will separate better and it will half your ISO value which is significant.
...or the one you can afford! LOL! Love the shirt man, just need a cool hat to go with it. 🙂 Great lenses though, beautiful images...
Ohh I GOT SOME HATS haha
Fujinon 23mm 1.4 LM WR or Viltrox 27mm 1.2
Which one? ☝️
The Viltrox is easier to compose and separates a bit better. The 23mm is a bit more versatile and more compact. It really comes down to preferences I think!
it really is preferences. THe viltrox I feel is sharper than the XF 23mm... If i can choose between the 2 it would be the xf 23mm for the size. But Viltrox at this price cannot be beat.
Thanks 🙏🏼
Last comparison with the most popular 23mm trio
Viltrox 23mm 1.4 / sigma 23mm 1.4 / Fuji 23mm 1.4
What do you think?
Viltrox 27mm 1.2 Pro 💪
XF,33mm
f 1.4 BEST !!!
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FROM THAILAND >> U ARE CORRECT ITS NOT THE SAME AND I HAVE 16mm 23mm 33mm all F1.4 these two are fuji new generations lens >>and i also has 50mmf2.0 on my prime corrections and i feel that fuji 56mm f1.2 wr not that class ??
fuji 56mm f1.2 wr is not in the same class no. There is no LM
forget both..get the 30 mm 2.8 macro while you can..and thank me later..
haha
The 30mm macro might not have the prettiest bokeh, the fastest aperture, the sharpest edges, the best vignette control, or dramatic sunstars... but it runs circles around the 33 when it comes to size & weight, chromatic aberration control, smooth manual focusing, and macro. 😄
why do you end the clips so badly. It's like cutting them with scissors
I'm torn between 23 f1.4 lm wr or the 33 f1.4 lm wr.. 😵💫 i watched almost all the review videos on youtube to help me decide which one to get. Gggrrr....
I got the 16mm f1.4 and the old 56mm 1.2. I need to complete my trio combo. 😵💫😵💫😵💫
what's your heart telling you
@@Iamtongue i decided to get the 23 tho🤩
yay! congrats dude enjoyI love that lens@@thotsofficial3171
@@Iamtongue thanks! 🙃
why do you end the clips so badly. It's like cutting them with scissors
If peter mckinnon can start with "PPPPBBBWHATSUP EVERYBODY" Why can't I end it with something like? -
@@Iamtonguei love it, it’s unique
ahha thanks so....