Peter Panagore- Why I Stay
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- After the loss of a very close loved one or after a deeply spiritually transformative experience such as an NDE, many people feel an intense longing for Home. If we verbalize this, it can be seen as morose. It's a taboo subject, but I wanted to explore it. I asked Peter why he chose to stay after his NDE(s) where he experienced pure bliss. Nearly 40 years after his first NDE, Peter is still here.
I never tire of listening to either Peter Panagore or Brian. Spreading the message of love💕
"I cannot take my own life because it doesn't belong to me" Wow, that was a powerful statement that really hit me hard. This entire conversation was so beautiful to listen to and I shed tears hearing it. Thank you so much for sharing both of your stories.
I could of wrote what you did,word for word.I felt the same way.I she'd tears also!
Way to go Peter, I am eager to go home also and I do not talk about it with anybody, so it was quite the treat to hear you share so openly.
Resonates with me too. I'm not a NDEr, but I am so wiped out from all I have been through, and while I'm safe and healthy, I still feel lonely and tribeless. I Iong to feel loved and valued the way one does in the light!!!!
Hi Eve.
Thank you for a wonderfully human discussion of the ineffable but, I truly trust, fully true. Two men lifted through loss to higher vistas where the loss is transmuted into food for our dearest and universal hopes. In the Christian metaphor the mystery of faith is “ Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again”. That insight into the cosmic pattern seems to pervade all branches of human wisdom. Growth toward the eternal through “redeemed” pain comes alive for me in this conversation.
I’ve learned it’s all about unconditional love for everyone!
Our job is to take opportunities and make opportunities to be kind to others!
SO SIMPLE!💗
I find a lot of dignity in this, our life on Earth. Maybe that's the reason we are here, to spread the greatness of enduring and stubborn love.
Hi. I had my nde in 2001 from a fall from a horse and broke my neck. I too popped out and was immersed in such profound peace. I felt like I was being held tight by someone who loved me immensely. I was "in the clouds" but did get a glimpse of witnessing my head heading for a tree and not at all concerned. I asked in my head if I was dead. I do not remember any answer to that but then asked about my kids and KNEW they would be ok. Time did not exist there. I cried for the next 2 years when I thought about what I experienced. Even tho now I still get down my lifelong depression was gone. I also learned about loving myself and
Thank you,both of you. In these confusing, frightening,divisive times,hearing you guys talk is balm for the soul. Love and grief seem to be at the center of all the lessons for me. I'm sure the lessons are important,I just wish it didn't have to hurt so very much.
thankyou Peter love and peace ❤️
This is a great conversation full of insight. While I haven’t had an NDE experience, I have had experiences that have shown me that I and all other people are beings of light encased in a physical body and that the source of the light within us is in our heart: “...the effulgence of that light is within the hearts, yet it is hidden beneath the veils of selfish desires and earthly attachments...” A key part of the “spiritual” path involves removing those veils until we are consciously aware of the light that lives in our heart. Not an easy task in my experience!
When you have tasted the glory there is nothing better than that. One would be crazy if they didnt want to go home first and foremost. We are here for God to bless others but of course the bliss of heaven is our home and our longing though we are both removed and grounded here simultaneously
The good new is we all get there. Just at different times.
Mr. Smith, I am sorry to hear you have temporarily lost your daughter. That must be a very hard thing to deal with. I hope you have found some peace hearing about the wonderful place your daughter now gets to enjoy. Today, 1/25/22 is the first time I have watched this video. I will pray that you are blessed and have understanding of how happy your daughter is now that she is in her heavenly home with the Creator.
Thank you so much Brian and Peter...what a wonderful conversation !!!
You're welcome.
I lost my 17 yr old son. It's been many years ago now and yet it was yesterday. I am so unhappy here. I find myself saying, "I want to go home." I didn't know what I meant by that but I do now. And yet, I am terrified to die! Talk about feeling between a rock and a hard place....
I understand. I was terrified of death at one time myself. And, I find myself saying "I want to go home." all the time. Studying NDEs has helped with the fear of death. And, making it one day at a time helps with the homesickness.
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I briefly crossed over after suffering 2 sudden cardiac arrests. What I have brought back with me is a feeling of sorrow, that everyone has to go through the transition. From my experience - there is fear, there is a struggle for the last gasp, and there is a fear of departure. But once that transition has passed - consciousness . . . your being will continue. I know that our bodies are just a vessel, and our time is just a grain of sand slipping through clasped hands. With that said, I am happy to be back in the day to day struggle of life, to take care of my parents, my kids, and soon to come grandchildren.
Love thy self & love others
You have a wonderful and blessed rest of your life and make sure to continue on spreading the love and I hope down the line you get everything you ever wished for and more. much love.
Thank you very much.
For years I've combined the Jesus Prayer and "...God, please take me home or dissolve my sense of self before sunrise...", when getting into bed at night. No NDE, but my sense of self was removed from me for 4 or 5 days once about 10 years ago. Understood finally why Death was no threat. So I Know much of what he speaks.
There are so many people now who have no emotional intelligence and cannot handle having any emotions except pleasant ones and believe that Spirituality is synonymous with positive emotions.
30 years ago it wasn't like this.
How did we get here?
But I'm so not listening to any more rationalizations for why it sucks here.
Tuned out at 26:28.
Bye.
I can take my life to be in such a beautiful state! I am 66 and no one will miss me. But I will be in paradise....goodbye cruel world!
I do hope you watched the video. Peter said "I cannot take my own life because it does not belong to me."
If you're still here, it's for a reason
the talk on suicide was great, but The quick telling of this story.. relaly kind of ruins It..I loved it on buddha at the gas pump, and I know that was 2 hrs but it was worth it.
Thanks for the comment. This was a follow up to a previous conversation I had with Peter. That's why it was abbreviated.
@@Grief2Growth I get it.. have a great day.
Alas it's quite reasonable to assume that 'going home to bliss' is not forever - it's just a healing time so you can be later thrust back 'into the mix' .... BTW folks should prep a Q list with simple but potentially easy answers to bring back with NDEs. Such as "Who made my dreams every night?" and "why do some people have to suffer in intense soul destroying agony for so long b4 they die - how can that be a lesson?" (I haven't seen ANY good answers to that one yet)
Something is wrong with what happened to Peter. It doesn't line up with the bible. He doesnt really believe in Jesus the way a genuine Christian does. He's also a universalist which is a huge red flag. ..i think he has been deceived by the angel of light.
Maybe New Age also? I was looking for his encounter with Jesus Christ, but he described more of the light, divine light. He experienced love, and communicated with the creator. He shared what he really saw and experienced, but there is no emphasis on Christ or God of the bible. He said, he hasn't gone to the door yet, meaning that he was in the second heaven?where spirits roam, ie. the principalities, the spiritual hosts...in the heavenly. Eph 6. He does say some truths, quite a lot of truth, but....?? nothing on the message of salvation in Christ.
Crystal Ping Sim Lee would it ever occur to you that the bible is wrong? Who cares that it doesn’t line up with the bible. The bible is full of errors and was written by people, not god. He encountered a being of infinite love which is so much bigger and more powerful than the petty, man made god found in the bible.
This is a very disappointing and fear based response. The Bible says to test the spirits by the spirit. How can anything that communicates unconditional love and acceptance and brings hope and healing be of the "angel of light"?
God is love. If the message of love doesn't line up with your view of the Bible, maybe your view of the Bible is wrong, or the Bible is wrong.
Brian if Satan can transform himself into an angel of light he can promise lots of love & acceptance temporarily. As long as he can drag you to hell he can counterfeit anything. The Word of God is where Truth is. That said, Peter knows Christ, but imho he underplays Christ’s role in uniting humanity with God. And that’s why he doesn’t understand why he’s still here. He things everyone will go to God. Some won’t if they reject God in the Flesh sacrificed for us all.
I think Peter knows Christ bcz he went to divinity school & became a pastor. But unfortunately he underplays Christ’s role in how humanity is united with God. He still doesn’t see the purpose in being here and I think he is supposed to be showing others on earth that Christ is that Door to God the Supreme Being.