The Expanse 4x3 Reaction | Subduction
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43:59 Murtry sucks
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David Straithairn had so much fun on the show in the 3rd season he asked if he could be in another season. And so the show runners extended Ashford's story line into this season. When an actor like him asks to be in your show you say 'Yes!'
I never thought about Amos liking Avasarala’s outfits because he grew up with people who dressed up a lot. That makes sense.
Yeah, I think Amos wore a variety of costumes as a child. While going on dates with pedophiles.
Hence the comment about wearing high heels.
I do like that you had a more innocent take on that scene than I did.
There's more back story on Amos in the novellas but let's just say he has mommy issues.
He grew up with people who ALSO dressed up a lot. He didn't always work in space, his past isn't so much checkered as chiffon.
I think "How about now, I'm free right now" is easily one of the best lines in the show.
I am that guy.
@@n1c2c8 Yep, another brilliant line delivered by Wes Chatham.
I always enjoyed "Everybody gets a pony and a blowjob" - just Chrissy being her true self.
"I'm free right now" second favorite Amos line. It's right up there with "I am that guy"
Honorable mention goes to "Does that mean we're not fuckin' anymore?"
I don't know if you had noticed, but Chandra Wei (the Earther military that gets it on with Amos) is played by Jess Salgueiro, who was Robin Ward in The Boys (Hughie's girlfriend who dies in episode 1).
😲😲😲 Robin!!!!
She wrapped her arms around Amos..... Too soon? 🤣
I just started watching Boys recently, on season 2 now and I always thought Robin looked familiar but never knew where I have seen her before. 😂
She also plays one of the captains of the women's hockey team in "Letterkenny," which you haven't watched, but which I recommend to everyone.
Yes! She was great on Letterkenny.
Amos offering to shoot Murtry was hilarious. Just perfect line delivery.
It's weird. The swarm of razor bugs, the lightning, the tiller in this episode. Ever since the Roci showed up, all of this dormant protomolecule tech keeps turning on like someones going around flipping all of the switches.
That's just a coincidence. :D
Those were Earthers that got spaced. That’s a rather important detail, considering that it was Marcos who did it.
19:40 Those weren't Belters. Those were Inner emigrants waiting to enter the Ring Gate an leave the Solar system. They were murdered by Belter Terrorist (they weren't just pirates), the crime of being Inners .
"Someday I think you and I are going to end up bloody." to which Amos replies "How about now? I am free right now" 35:48 that was the teaser commercial for this season if I remember correctly.
firefly and bsg are absolutely good picks for the future, but one more you might want to consider is babylon 5. it pioneered multi-year arcs and cgi instead of models, as well as spaceships that don't move like airplanes. lots of amazing characters to love and very intense stories and mysteries with big payoffs later. i've been watching another reactor (medusa cascade) remind me how much i loved it during the initial run and would love to see your take on the series.
"Clarissa mouth switch" is her rage mode trigger word 🤣🤣🤣
Haven't watched the reaction yet but I just wanted to say, yesterday afternoon a family friend (the happiest and most giggly man ive ever known) took his own life due to the abuse of his wife for years, your reactions are definitely helpful when I have tough days but yesterday and today have been especially hard for me. Thank you for helping us get through our days!
To anyone reading, you never know what someone is growing through and even if you do, you don't really know how hard it is for them, so cherish every moment you can. I only knew him for 4 years but he was the best person i'd ever met, always willing to give the shirt off his back to anyone without ever expecting anything in return, always laughing and just genuinely a great guy.
I’m so sorry for your loss 🖤 I’m happy that I can help you get through a hard time. Please know that I’m thinking of you.
“A heavy hand in the underground world.” Just put a pin in that.
One of the little things not many notice but really does wonders for Season 4 here is the Change in Aspect Ratio between areas.
To really sell the Frontier/Western like theme you may notice the Aspect Ratio when on planet changes. its a normal 16:9 everywhere else BUT on Ilus it has that cinimatic widescreen ratio. I thought that was a really neat little detail.
Anamorphic lenses and many dramatic camera angles that recall Spaghetti Westerns too
You may not have noticed. But your brain did.
When Naomi got back to the Rosci, she found Amos unconscious and wounded.
I'm pretty sure that the only reason Amos wasn't as excited as he ever gets is because he could barely think, at all.
Naomi is also struggling with disappointment in this part of the season.
The subtext, here, is that while a visit to Earth may not thrill Naomi, generally, she'd very much like to visit Holden's family, in his childhood home, and it's becoming increasingly obvious, to her, that she may never be able to do that.
At some point, if you'd like to see some of the inspiration for this season, you might enjoy, "A Fistful of Dollars," and Sergio Leone's magnum opus, "Once Upon a Time in the West."
In the latter, you might have fun comparing Henry Fonda's character with Burn Gorman's, and both are great films, all by themselves.
A tight-beam encryption module would allow someone to send an encrypted message via a tight-beam laser to an antenna with one of those things, and it could forward the signal on, also with a tight-beam laser, to any other module, and bounce the message from one to the next, until it reached its destination.
It's basically like using an highly-encrypted VPN tunnel that stretches across the Solar System, to anywhere that has one of those devices and, unlike a modern VPN, nobody could even tell you're using it, because it acts as its own network.
Just because this season is *mostly* a Western doesn't mean it isn't also a spy-thriller. 😁
Hrm. Hard science fiction is really hard to do, and very few even try.
Movies would be The Martian, Gravity, and Moon.
There aren't any hard sci-fi TV series I can think of, but if you want beautifully-written, character-driven, gritty, high-stakes space-operas, try Babylon 5 in addition to the two you mentioned.
I'll second Babylon 5. In many ways, The Expanse feels like a successor to Babylon 5. I know many people who thought that Babylon 5 was their favorite scifi show until The Expanse came along and edged it out.
The DNA of B5 shows up in both this show and nBSG (which FLG has recently started reacting to).
Amos and Chandra were probably the first Earthers to bang in another solar system
I really liked how Amos is just screwing with Morty….Murray….Murty intentionally mispronouncing his name until the crapola’s about to hit the fan - Then he looks at him directly & emphasizes “Murtry”.
(Murdery is an awesome name for him by the way) 😘
Just like that quote from Corinthian in The Sandman: people only use your full name when you're in trouble.
yeah Murdery 's perfect in so many ways. I'm now wishing Amos would have used it.
Its a common psychological trope to mispronpunce an egomaniacs name to unsettle them
Everyone always says that their favorite Amos moment is "I AM that guy", but for me it always been "how 'bout now? I'm free right now". Cold as ice, totally intimidating. So awesome. I like it better because it's two dangerous killer types measuring up against each other whereas the other was a straight one sided execution, much deserved of course, but less badass
my favorite moment wasn't "I AM that guy", but the previous "you're not that guy", but this "how 'bout now? I'm free right now" definitely tops my charts.
I also enjoyed he's whole story arc on Earth in the final season, and now a certain event involving a bottle of whiskey on the moon comes to mind :)))
@@e1123581321345589144 Spoilers dude.
@@e1123581321345589144 No spoilers please!
Yeah, as viscerally satisfying as the scene and line of "I AM that guy!" is because of how deserving of execution Strickland was, and how awesome it was that Amos IS that guy, to spare Prax forcing himself to be, this scene is better.
And that's because of what you say. This is Amos, looking at another killer who believes he's tougher than he is, and basically saying, "Spare me the talk, punk!"...😉😏
I knew you'd love the "How about now? I'm free right now," scene. Amos being Amos (along with the Wei conversation).
The tightbeam encryption module is what MCRN ships use to encrypt and decrypt tightbeam messages between ships. So what would belters want with that? I like your theory and can neither confirm nor deny how close you are. Sometimes you're right, sometimes you're off...
Lightning stopped at the islands on the other side of the planet. You may or may not be right when you say it's probably not the end of that story.
I also missed Drummer and Ashford. Hopefully we'll see those two again soon.
As for other shows, I'm all in on Battlestar Galactica and Firefly. Peaky Blinders. I loved Raised By Wolves. Station Eleven is fantastic. Severance is one of the best things I've seen this year. For All Mankind is great. Chernobyl is fantastic (and stars Jared Harris and Stellan Skarsgard). Better Call Saul is a masterclass in long-form, multi-season TV writing and production. Animal Kingdom is a great 4 (edit: 6 season) season story, too.
For movies, I second Sunshine. Edge of Tomorrow is awesome. Can't think of too many more off the top of my head but Dune is a masterpiece. Don't miss that one.
Alien and Aliens if you have not already seen them. Die Hard for Xmas 😁
This person knows what's up, seconded!
"Fun" fact: Felcia had a little Brother, called "Katoa". Remember where these People came from ?^^ It is something the series doesn't go into. What they sadly also didn' do:
In the books we meet one of the first characters we ever see in this show: Millers Buddy Havelock :)
I liked book 4 better than S4 of the show but not by much. Naomi and Havelock in space was pretty tense and awesome. But the way it is in the show is probably much better for a visual media.
The other show I watch all reactions for is The Last Kingdom. Nothing like The Expanse theme-wise, it's closer to Vikings, but it's also built on perspectives and relationships. Very character-driven.
Better history than Vikings. Much better. So much better. I mean, dear God . . .
Best medieval show i ve seen. Uthred and Alfred together? Gold.
It has always amused me that the end of season 3 has Holden giving the big speech about always reaching for violence when there are things that we don't understand, and that they shouldn't. Three episodes later, he's like, 'this machine we don't understand? Let's shoot it with a torpedo.'
The complicated situation Bobbie found herself in on Mars, with organized crime (which eventually is linked to....uh...major story elements that I will not spoil cuz the books end a bit different)....it was actually so compelling that the authors published a short-story detailing exactly what she and her family went through. There's several of those short stories that fill in the time gap between novels for fan-fave characters. Definitely a recommended reading. The show did a good job of incorporating those stories into the main plotline, but the books are far more detailed.
Love your reaction vids of The Expanse! Apart from making the show feel new again, it's nice to see it from someone else's perspective. Hold on tight, you think you want more seasons now?!😁 Tis a wild ride. :) The moment where Amos was all nonchalant like "Okay, you want me to shoot Morty?" will always be a treasured Amos moment🤣 Great episode!
If only Holden relented 😣
Ok, a couple of points: 1. it’s interesting how different the takeaway or perception of interactions can be from different viewers. You refer to the scene when Naomi came back to the ship and Amos asked if she was here to stay. She said yes, and he replied “Ok.” Amos was still injured, perhaps concussed and Amos is famous for his short, very matter of fact answers. I read this as Amos thinking “Ok, you’re back, it’s settled, going back to sleep now, but simply stated as “Ok.” 2. The Expanse writers are masters at developing some of the best villains in SCI-FI.
Regarding other shows, I highly recommend "For All Mankind" on Apple TV. Amazing character-driven drama about an alternative past/present/future, based on the premise that the Soviets made it to the Moon before the US back in 1969.
Think of it as a prequel to The Expanse :)
Been suggesting this show to several reactors, but it seems that anything on the AppleTV+ streaming service has a bad standing because it is yet another and rather new service you need to pay for. But they also have the intriguing and visually stunning sci-fi show "Foundation" (1 season so far) which is loosely based on Isaac Asimov's novels of the same name. The actor Jared Harris who played Anderson Dawes in The Expanse has a major role in it (also the reason why he never came back).
I’d also get Apple TV + for Ted Lasso. The show is great and it actually makes you happy (especially in these trying times)
Your face during every Amos scene was my face when I was watching the show and I'm a straight man.
The Amos scenes do not disappoint 😬
Angela, as much as you're loving this season of the TV show, you are going to _really_ love the book it's adapted from. There's _so_ many more scientific discoveries, descriptions of animals, weather, terrain, etc. Elvie Okoye (the scientist) is probably second only to Holden in terms of the amount she's in the book (literary screen time? book time?). While book 3's adaptation suffered from time crunch (they figured they were going to get more time to tell that story), I think book 4 suffered from the adaptation process the most of any of them. That is, the story contains a lot more stuff that doesn't adapt well (mostly internal monologues) than the other books which, while still having internal monologues, have a lot more action and intreague.
Yaaaas, so much this! Elvie and Fayez are my favorite lol. As a side note, I just started book 9 and she should totally read them! It gets crazier and crazier, and after book 6 I was like there's no way they can keep topping this stuff, man was I wrong. So far book 8 was my favorite.
It is easy to dislike Murtry because of both the writing and the good acting by Burn Gorman ( He plays a really good bad guy/asshole in a lot of shows and movies). However just remember who drew first blood. The Belters did try to kill not only him but a lot of innocent people before they even landed, including the scientist working with Holden and Alex. A lot of innocent people did die because of the attack on the ship. Now I do not excuse his execution of the first Belter but it is easy to understand why he did it. Plus the group were planning to kill him and several others during that meeting before the ambush. That is not right either. They have no more to play judge, jury and executioner than Murtry does.
Fun fact, Lucia is a recast of sorts.
In the books the role she plays (more or less) was taken by Basia, Katoa's dad.
Btw, that "Earthquake" ought to be terrifying for Alex (and all Belters including Naomi ofc), no Tectonics on Mars either.
I didn’t think of that! The ground shaking should’ve terrified all of them
Yeah I was looking forward to see Basia back after his brief appearance earlier in the show. But then again Show Basia did not feel like the sort of guy we had in the book so I wasn't sure if that would work out. The Basia I imagined when listening to the book is a lot more like the Cyn character from Season 5 mixed with that Belter that shot Havelock with a pipe.
I don't see why you dislike Murtry. I guess he just has one of those faces
Lets not forget another reason Amos was asking how Avasarala looked
Shes gorgeous!😍🤣
She always looks spectacular!!!
I don't think going to the island chain was even an option. Those islands are on the opposite side of the planet.
Two favorite scenes on this episode were both badasses refusing to be intimidated.
Bobby: bring a gun, I don't wanna kill an unarmed man.
Amos: what about now? I'm free right now.
Remember when the scientists thought it was a good idea to jam this alien tech into little kids. Now we're colonizing it. Probably a good idea, right?
Babylon 5 is old, the special effects aren't that great, particularly at first, but it's the show that's closest to The Expanse in terms of high stakes, character-driven scifi with an ongoing, epic story. Many people consider The Expanse a spiritual successor to Babylon 5. Each season of that show was essentially a book, even though it was a TV original. The entire plot for the five seasons of the show was planned out in advance, and it shows. It was really the first television series to do anything like it, and nothing has quite been like it since, although The Expanse is probably closest.
Babylon 5 fans will come to your channel if you start watching it. There are not many reactions for it, but the fandom is very dedicated and they'll be very excited to see anyone new watching it. The series has 22 episode seasons, so you'll get lots of content out of it, too. I think you'll enjoy speculating on all the many mysteries, and like The Expanse, Babylon 5 does have answers to questions it raises, but you'll have to be a bit patient to get them.
Some non-spoiler notes if you decide to watch it, so you get the best possible experience...
The first season can be a little rough. Some of the acting is, well, as bad as some Star Trek shows in their first season or two. But it's an important season to the characters and plot, and season 2 really takes off like a rocket and the show is great after that. That's not to say the first season is bad, but there are a few scenes, characters, and episodes that are not that amazing. But there are also some actors and stories that absolutely kill it, even in season 1. Just remember it's merely the first act of a five act story; it's mostly about introductions.
Another thing to look out for is the TV movies, that were a part of the show's continuity. Most notable in this is the TV movie "The Gathering", which served as the series pilot. Some people mistakenly skip it, and watch the first episode "Midnight on the Firing Line" first instead, but you'll want to watch the movie pilot first if you watch the series.
Then there's the TV movie "In the Beginning". Very important: do not watch it in the beginning! Typically it is watched right after season 4, which corresponds to broadcast order. Without spoiling anything, it's a movie where one of the characters is much older and is telling the story of some things that happened before the time period in which Babylon 5 takes place. It reveals some interesting details about events that we've heard about throughout the series, but it also shows a little of the future because of the way the story is framed. It can be watched after season 5 if you want to avoid any of these future hints, but I think there's value in watching it after season 4 as intended.
Chronologically, the TV movie "Thirdspace" takes place during the events of the fourth season episode "Moments of Transition". You can watch it after that episode and not spoil anything for yourself. It's also a TV movie you can skip until later, as it doesn't really have anything to do with the main plot of the series, although the movie does refer to those events. Same with the TV movie "River of Souls", which chronologically takes place after the fifth season episode "Objects at Rest". You can wait until after watching the end of the series and it won't affect anything.
The remaining two movies both tried to work as pilots for spin-off series. One of these was a successful effort ("A Call to Arms"), and the other was not ("The Legend of the Rangers"). I would suggest waiting to decide if you want to watch the spin-off (called Crusade) before watching either one. I'll note here that Crusade got really screwed over by the network in truly spectacular fashion. So, if you do watch it, don't watch it in original broadcast order. The creator of both series, J. Michael Straczynski, gave an official viewing order that can be found online.
And finally there are direct-to-DVD episodes called "The Lost Tales", which are a pair of 40 minute episodes with a couple additional stories from the Babylon 5 universe, which should be watched last.
Amos shines in this season.
Knew you would enjoy Amos this season. 😉
I love how you always know where you stand with Amos.
Other sci-fi movies: The Martian (could easily exist in the same timeline as The Expanse) and Moon.
Other sci-fi shows: Firefly and Babylon 5 (somewhat dated but the spiritual predecessor to the Expanse, especially progressive natural character arcs and grand interconnected five season long story line).
"The Martian (could easily exist in the same timeline as The Expanse)"
The Martian *does* exist in the same timeline. There is a ship called "Mark Watney" in The Expanse, in honor of the first colonist of Mars:
"Mark Watney is a colony ship that operated out of Mars. It was seized by the Free Navy's Michio Pa fleet during the Free Navy Conflict."
The lesson of the previous season was "don't just blow stuff up" and Holden is saying "hold my torpedo" - I know you covered this, but, c'mon Holden
the thing with Murty is that in the book at this point he is much more understable cause more things happen (not tryng to spoil) .. they cut most of the parts of the Belter side in the TV series but left Murty's stuff untouched so he appears much more evil in TV .. since both versions end up in the same place at the end (no spoiler) its not much character change tough ..i guess they did that for TV pace porpouses
He's understandable now. These assholes murdered 23 people and thought they could get away with it. Murtry is just trying to do good by his people.
I like season 4 for a similar reason. I enjoy the politics, the protomolecule mystery, etc. of The Expanse but have missed sci-fi shows that are just exploring the galaxy. I grew up with Stargate and loved that aspect of it.
As for other movies/shows, 1 recommendation I'd have is Sunshine 2007. I'll just say it's a sci-fi movie if you haven't seen it. Despite some of the flaws it may have, it's one of my favorite. The soundtrack is just amazing as well.
Sunshine is effin brilliant. It has one of the most misunderstood third acts in film history. Most people think the third ac goes off the rails, not realizing the thematic brilliance of it. For clarification of what um talking about a youtuber "Movies with Mikey" for Filmjoy does a great breakdown of it. Plus "Sunshine" is one of the most beautifully shot movies of all time! That and the acting alone make the movie worth watching.
Season 4 is my favorite Season, it's more self contained clean and direct history, but it's so well executed.
I didn't like it was much the first watch, but I was amazed in my second watch,
Definitely, I think Netflix's Lost in Space is fun and captures something about just exploring / solving problems with science. Although it's aimed at teens/ family viewing, not adults. Still fun though
The Season 4 Mars arc very closely parallels the fall of the old Soviet Union.
As far as recommendations go (without being well-versed in your current oeuvre), I'll always recommend FRINGE, BABYLON 5 (albeit a bit dated), SENSE8, BATTLESTAR GALACTICA (remake), THE BLETCHLEY CIRCLE, and THE GOOD PLACE. They may not garner the views, though. And there's always THE OA, but it's run was abruptly cut short after a giant cliffhanger. Remarkable storytelling, though.
Movies aplenty: THE ABYSS (4K remaster coming next year!), THE CROW, THE USUAL SUSPECTS, SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDERVERSE, and THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI are today's five mentions.
To add to the Mars situation and what's not really talked on much in the show is that fact that Mars and its colony's are in a system where everyone is to contribute to Mars though either service, the terraforming project or whoever else all in the service of Mars. So you have to think of why the ring gates change that, Once the rings became a thing, it puts in the questions why Martians still are trying to terraform there rock when there are so many options now. Bobbies storyline reflects the mentality of many martians that previously gave everything in service of Mars and how that has changed where people see a new alternative.Its completely filled the power dynamics and politics of the place though one factor outside of Mars's control which makes this show feel so alive and believable.
Ah, Burn Gorman (Murtry), remember him best from the Dr Who spinoff, Torchwood as Dr Owen Harper. Role on "Peaches" too... so much to look forward to.
The first I saw of him was in Pacific Rim. He played the other half of the eccentric scientist duo (the other was played by Charlie Day).
Crisjen hates being right, because she's the one who sees the problem and she's right about it. It's like most other people think she's overanalyzing or jumping to obscure possibilities, so they are ignoring the problem she sees, and she ends up being right.
I think the better term for the "truth pills" are "focus" or "observation" pills because they heighten focus and attention to details, thus enabling better observation of subtle clues and micro expressions. (Like did the person being questioned just consciously block a twitch of their eyes)
Gao "grew up on basic" but then managed to cut in front of everyone on basic who applied to the vocational lottery weeks, months, years even decades before her. She had to do something to get that special access, which just colors her as "just another self-serving political opportunist"
Farscape, Firefly, Battlestar will all be up your alley.
I know you are watching Firefly and there are already many recommendations for the Battlestar redo but I'd second the recommendation for Farscape, a very enjoyable sci-fi show. Not sure as to how many people know about Farscape though.
I'd also recommend The Good Place if you haven't seen it, a comedy but which tells one story over 4 seasons.
The book this season is based on actually had Havelock back as a member of the security team on board the Edward Israel. They had already skipped one story beat involving Havelock (he was the one who pointed them toward Thoth station in the books) so they probably didn't have plans for him in the series. Even if they had, the actor (Jay Hernandez) was quite busy at the time of S4 starring in the remake of Magnum PI.
in the books, the relationship between 'peeches' and Amos was more fleshed out, was like a six month ride back to earth when the ring gates opened up, can't include everything into the TV version unfortunately
*Peaches.
From "Peach Melba'
(It's a famous desert)
Something that's rarely considered about Amos when he says the "three types of people line."
People you follow: Jim and Naomi
People you protect: Alex
Where does that leave Amos in his own mind?
Lol Murtry is great. Burn Gorman is an amazing actor.
I'd normally recommend Fringe but you mentioned recognizing Lance Reddick from it during your John Wick reaction, so I guess that's out. For non-SF shows that I don't see a lot of reactions to I would recommend The Wire (another Reddick show) or Justified (fantastic dialogue throughout).
I absolutely enjoy watching your journey in this story!
So many good moments in this one! But most of all is that Amos doesn't have a lot of lines but they are the best lines! " So does this mean we're not f**king anymore?" Or " How about now? I'm free right now!"
I want to give you a quote from a previous episode from Dawes " Good and bad, don't let that confuse you!" I also want to say something that isn't meant as a dig at you. Just because someone is perceived as an underdog, you might think of them as the " Good guys?" Just food for thought!
Looking forward to the next one!
Amos and Murtry are opposites in more ways than one. You'll get to watch and understand Amos a lot better for their interactions.
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Movies: Sunshine, Gattaca, Event Horizon, District 9, Pitch Black
Shows: Killjoys*, The OA, Travelers (and for something completely different) Yellowjackets, Castlevania 😁
* - Killjoys and Dark Matter share a lot of actors and extras with The Expanse because they were all filmed in Toronto around the same time. Off the top of my head, Monica, Marco, Katoa and a bunch of Martians including some of those that tried to take over the Roci were all on Killjoys.
Dark Matter, in particular, was really good. I enjoyed Killjoys, and it seemed more popular with audiences, but Dark Matter was just a really cool concept for a show and did some great world building.
@@fakecubed For sure. I watched both too, but it's just hard to recommend Dark Matter because of that not-an-ending.
@@douglas2938 I still think it’s worth watching. I don’t regret starting it, when it was in its original run. Anyway, it got more of an ending than Firefly.
You can tell that the show is filmed in the Toronto area like The Boys by local actors like Simu liu and Jess Salgueiro showing up. Also the quarry that they film Ilus in has been used in Star Trek discovery, killjoys as well as the beach where Holden had his vision and Vought hq is the same building as the UN (Roy Thompson hall in downtown Toronto)
Recommendations for shows:
BSG and firefly- keep in mind that BSG reactions get copyright strikes regularly so alter your footage accordingly. I’m not the biggest Firefly fan (imho it’s overhyped) but it’ll get you a lot of views!
Babylon 5- like The Expanse the story was planned out in advance by J Michael Strazynski so it tells a complete story and it’s well worth the journey. 90s Video Toaster fx but the story makes up for it!
Westworld- very interesting ideas about AI and robotics and the effects on society.
Foundation- Based on the Asimov books and the awesome Jared Harris as Hari Seldon!
Person of Interest- amazing series that explores the ideas of the surveillance state, moral implications of an AI, hacking and information collection by both electronic and human interactions; one of my favourite shows in the past 20 years
The Peripheral- I’m biased because I’m a big fan of William Gibson but the show is probably one of the best adaptations of his books. An exploration of virtual reality, time travel and the bleeding of the virtual world into the real one. Really great stuff.
For All Mankind- you said you already saw the first season so I propose that you react to all 10 episodes and get Xander to edit it all into an abridged single reaction where you can express your thoughts on each episode and you could make the uncut reactions patreon exclusive for those who want to see more. I’m hoping you’ll react to it because it gets so much more intriguing and exciting as it goes on
Stargate everything- I’m recommending it but I think you’ve already seen it all!
Ted Lasso- just because we really need something positive in our lives these days 😊
Total Mandella effect where I blanked on Arjun being swapped by different actors.! Doh! Had to look it up and there was a 1 1/2 yr gap and the switch from SyFy to Amazon. Still, I watched the series 2x at least and didn't catch on. (And yes, there's a reason) 🙂
I don't know if you still see new comments on these videos, but, if you are looking for movies to react that is sci-fi and fires similar themes and juices, there are two movies that come to mind:
- Equilibrium
- Sunshine
As for other movies/series: Expanse is sort of in a league of its own. Can’t think of anything in that same hard-sci-fi-with-great-characters vein. But…
I know you didn’t think Andor was good for reactions, and I totally get that, but I hope you had a chance to enjoy it on your own. I personally love that it’s not nostalgia-wank and cameo bingo, but is instead overtly political, morally grey (still anti-fascist, thankfully) and “grounded”.
In the more popcorny sci-fi department, Star Trek Strange New Worlds is pretty good, and Star Trek Lower Decks is both hilarious and has a lot of heart. Kinda like Futurama, which is an evergreen of course.
In the non-sci-fi shortlist there’s Chernobyl, which is just so damn good. It’s bleak and horrifying of course and all the more so since it’s fairly historically accurate. It’s a must-see that I don’t wish on anyone. It’s just brilliant.
And I’ve said it before but I really think you’d enjoy Midnight Mass :)
As for those you yourself mentioned:
Firefly is good fun of course - be sure to watch the Serenity movie (sort of series finale) too at the end.
Battlestar is pretty good too. Was a big fan back in the day, but I gotta admit it has aged somewhat. You kinda have to cast your mind back to the Bush years to contextualize certain parts, since it’s a product of its time. It’s also got an uneasy mix of bottle episodes and overarching-story episodes which detracts a little.
So Naren Shankar, who was the show runner for The Expanse, was also a writer and producer on my vote for the greatest scifi TV show of all time. Which would be Farscape. It is full on space-opera (where as The Expanse is a more grounded harder scifi space-opera), but full of amazing characters with brilliant character arcs and a lot of truly alien looking and acting aliens (in addition to some of the more traditional "bumpy forehead" Star Trek style aliens). It is sort of like if you took Buck Rogers, Blake's Seven, Firefly, Star Trek, and The Expanse and put it in a giant technicolor blender.
Babylon 5..
Babylon 5 is really good as a whole series, though is has that 90s sci Fi rough start.
Second Chernobyl. It would fit her sensibilities as a reactor perfectly 👌
@@jasondolph2785 agreed.
And there are also a bunch of problems with seasons 4 and 5 that came about due to the early cancellation. Season 4 wound up fast forwarding the main plot and season 5 wound up having to stretch what was meant to be the B plot of seasons 4 and 5 into the main plot for 5.
It is still a fantastic show and an important piece of scifi television. But it is also a bit more "of its time" than even Farscape.
Anyone can lay on their back under high G. Her not laying down is causing more trouble.
Just finished this season. Hoo, man. The Expanse does not disappoint!
If you haven't seen it, I think that you could appreciate "Person of Interest."
Nancy Gao jumped the line, using connections, and then she helped the people who she jumped ahead of get into positions that compounds the offense.
I know Adolphus Murtry is a piece of shit in the show, but I love the actor who plays him. I think its a proof of how good he is cause he's a fun guy in real life.
I would probably recommend a show that is quite unique, weird, funny and has great characters. "Dirk gentlys holistic detective agency". The show isn't going to make much sense in the beginning, but that's part of the fun and as is mentioned very early on: everything is connected. If you find the opening scenes interesting, you'll like the whole show
Li'l correction: Cara Gee is pronounced _KER-a Jee_ not CAR-a Gee. She rarely corrects people - she is kind to a fault - but I'm happy to spread the word.
Amos is such fun.
Movies you'd like: Inrerstellar (99% chance you've seen it already), and
Tucker and Dale vs Evil (a good one for October).
Hoping your heart is healthy and happy this day (or evening, or morning).
I have a Tucker and Dale reaction! It was fantastic!
@@funnylilgalreacts Cool! I'll have to check it out.
Something that didn’t really get extrapolated on which was made more clear in the book was the Belters’ logistic situation. They aren’t self-sufficient on Ilus, they don’t have a manufacturing base to replace anything that wears out or the Earth biomatter available to grow enough food for themselves; they need their ship, the Barbapicolla, to make the months-long run back to Sol, sell the lithium they’ve been mining, and bring back food and other necessities. They have to plan months and years in advance.
Also one small error I noticed, the people who were spaced in the last episode weren’t Belters, they were Earthers on a colony ship who were waiting at the blockade at the ring, wanting to go through but not allowed to. Think of it like wagon trains wanting to go west - there’s actually a lot of parallels to that in this season, with the OPA taking a role akin to First Nations, trying to hold on to their sovereignty and identity while a larger power takes what it wants and demands more and more concessions.
I think of his name like a mermaid tree, Mertree, Murtry
This was such a great episode, one of my favourites of this season, and that moment with Amos and Murtry was so damn good.
And yeah, knowing what we know about the protomolecule, attacking it runs the risk of it fighting back. Was definitely a hell of a risk by Holden.
You're likely on the mark with Nancy re: her coming from basic and potentially cheating her way into a higher position. If the system is rigged against the poor and disenfranchised, you have to imagine a lot of folks wouldn't hate someone for gaming it and getting to the top so long as they remembered to fix what was wrong in the first place. Crisjen's never had that struggle, she comes from a powerful family (which we learned in S1), and the power of nepotism saw her safely onto her current career track and into her current position of power, she has no room to criticize Nancy for skipping the line when she skipped it as well by the nature of the class she was born into. In a hypothetical future like The Expanse, with the world so heavily populated and with so many having no real future progression or dreams within reach, the process of inheritance is so much more pronounced, not just in material wealth, but also connections. I'm not sure Crisjen, for all her intelligence and wit, has the wisdom to realize the full scope of this.
And yes, we need more Miller so we can get answers!
As for other shows, I'll second the recommendations for The Leftovers(mystery drama/philosophical character study; 3 seasons and 28 episodes), and also forward Sense8 (sci-fi/mystery; 2 seasons and 24 episodes), season 1 of True Detective (character study/mystery; 8 episodes), and Battlestar Galactica (sci-fi/drama; 77-ish episodes/movies), and an underdog in Justified (Crime Drama; 6 seasons and 78 episodes) one of the best shows of the past 20 years (I am not typically a fan of crime dramas, they usually bore me to tears, but the writing in the show is impeccable and the acting is top notch), but the length of the show is a bit intimidating and not many have reacted to it.
For movies, if you haven't seen Arrival, I can't recommend it highly enough. It's a sci-fi drama and it's visually one of the most stunning films, and narratively wonderful. IMO Denis Villeneuve's best film, and possibly Amy Adams' best performance. Keeping with Denis, if you haven't seen Bladerunner 2049, it's a fantastic sci-fi drama as well (you'd want to see the original fist if you haven't, though, it's essentially required to fully understand this one), and Ryan Gosling is fantastic in it.
Definitely second Arrival as a movie to watch!
This isn't covered much if at all in the show so I don't consider it a spoiler...but Illus is rich in minerals, especially lithium. Lithium can be used in battery construction and material construction, which is why the Belter settlement popped up. It's also why the Builders set up their tech on Illus; to mine the minerals and make use of them.
The discussion of Belters who could not survive on the surface and had to go back into orbit was actually about the people from the Barb and not about other ships/planets.
I don't think it's a lack of war that's ailing Mars, but maybe the death of the dream of terraforming it.
After all, why spend centuries trying to make Mars green when there's thousands of worlds waiting just through the ring?
I think maybe the writers were channeling the feelings of the collapse of the Soviet Union in the 90's?🤔
I think Mars no longer needing to go to war with the Earth is why the ships are being scrapped, so yeah, it does really hurt their economy
@@funnylilgalreacts you can see in the intro that there's loads of ships leaving Mars for the Ring
I feel like xander is a hair's breadth from starting a "marcos counter" like the old donkey balls counter
Next episode it is remedied 😂
New drinking game for every time you think, "It's Miller time." Just drink something better instead.
I'm guessing you've already seen it, but if you haven't, I'd love to see your reaction to "The Boondock Saints." Not really relevant to what I just said, but it did make me think of it. And if you've been enjoying John Wick, I think you might enjoy that as well.
Oh don't worry. Amos and Murtry will give you considerable joy.
a really cool sci-fi movie is "prospect", it's pretty original and has an amazing soundtrack, too! and pedro pascal :)
Last year I was diagnosed with severe hypertension. Been healthy all my life, but age does stuff to you. I'm 50 and had to make immediate and drastic changes if I want to see 51. Take care of your heart.
Murtry doesn't do a single thing wrong, I am FLOORED that anyone can't see that, let alone apparently everyone
Absoloutly! Season 4 is basically expanse does Space Western, which is basically Star Trek! Season 4 is one of my favourites for this reason.
He's really good as a villain. I'm used to him as the medical officer on Torchwood. What I didn't know is that he won the first International Beatox convention in 2003 with this performance. czcams.com/video/Guo2Q424td4/video.html&pp=ygUTYnVybiBnb3JtYW4gYmVhdGJveA%3D%3D
One of the authors/show-runners said on Twitter awhile ago that Amos continually getting Murty's name wrong was because Amos despises "alpha males" and will never give them the respect they think they deserve. He always takes them down a peg.
And him getting it right in that moment was his way of saying "I'm not dumb, I'm doing it on purpose, and I know who you are"
Except that he said Murtry’s name wrong ("Murty") to his face only once, in E2, at the crash site, and got immediately corrected. He said "Marty" to the bartender (E2), and "Morty" and "Murphy" (E3) to Holden, with Murtry being nowhere near enough to hear it. So how are those last 3 instances of getting the name wrong "taking him down a peg"?
@@nonman3634 I'm only telling you what the author of the books said. Amos shows Murtry zero respect and that includes when he's talking about him to other people.
@@nonman3634 you can undermine people behind their backs too
Amos and his special friend Wei always make me laugh.
It’s a weird yet lovely relationship.
@@funnylilgalreacts Someone's going to end up handcuffed to a bed if this keeps up.
When Amos said "Okay" about Naomi coming back, first, he was in pain and barely conscious. He'd been slammed nearly to death (the equivalent of falling a couple of stories) and had just awakened from a short coma. How much smiling was he likely to be doing? Second, Amos has zero subtext. If he says, "Okay" he means he's fully "okay" with it, or he'd have said otherwise. He even noticed instantly that she'd changed her hair (which is a shadow of a personality fault she had in the book that they thankfully did not include in the series).
You said something interesting about Esai (LeeLee's boss) that I hadn't though of before, but I'll have to tell you later. The tightbeam modulator Esai made available to the undercover Belters is used for encrypted communication between ships.
I think that like with the Ring Sphere, Miller can communicate with the planet but not control it. Miller is just a tool of the Ring building component, which doesn't mean he knows anything about the devices on Ilus...except that the Ring building component is still prodding him to contact its masters.
Amazon had posted some "campaign spots" from Avasarala and Gao on CZcams...very interesting. But, alas, they've removed them. Maybe they're still available somewhere.
In addition to things others have mentioned, I'd add "Travellers," which is a very smart time travel drama that uses the Quantum Leap method in an intriguing manner. A team from the dystopic future has traveled to the past to prevent their future. They have each occupied the body of someone in the "present" (yes, it kills that person, but they select people who they know had been actually been killed in the last seconds before they occupied the body). But they don't really know much more than that about the bodies they occupy...and they still have to continue that person's life to remain undercover. So, for instance, the team assassin has occupied the body of an abused housewife, and must go on being the abused housewife. The team philosopher (technically, the oldest man alive) has occupied the body of a popular-but-shallow high school jock.
At 19:40 you said those were belters that were spaced... they were actually inners who were spaced by belter pirates.
31:59 (Wei) - the face you make encountering Amos world for the first time...
Other shows to react to: Battlestar Galactica, Battlestar Galactica, Battlestar Galactica, Battlestar Galactica, and Battlestar Galactica. Oh yeah, and Battlestar Galactica.
I'm referring to the 2004-09 remake, not the 1978-79 original. BSG shares the title with The Expanse for best sci-fi series of the past 20 years. A must-see for anyone who loves the genre, who appreciates plot complexity and extraordinary character arcs, and who likes being challenged with existential themes and moral dilemmas that force them to think.
It’s not quite clear what you want me to watch…. 😂😂😂🖤🖤
@@funnylilgalreacts Firefly. He wants you to watch Firefly. And maybe you've seen Firefly, but we've never seen you watch Firefly. A show you would absolutely love.
Did you ever get your answer on gravity and how it would effect someone from zero g? I know the explanation from other stories and shows about colonization
Other shows: Station Eleven and Midnight Mass for short, limited series, The Leftovers, Severance, or The Path (Aaron Paul in a cult).
You mentioned that you're a big Star Trek fan- it'd be great to see you go through your favorites of the four series- particularly DS9, which I think is as close to the Expanse's politics and close knit crew as Trek gets.
Star Trek fans, particularly Deep Space Nine fans, owe it to themselves to watch Babylon 5 if they haven't seen it. It is not Star Trek, it's not trying to be Star Trek although many Star Trek fans mistakenly compare the two a lot (the similarities are there, but only in the most superficial ways). As a fan of both, who was a fan of Star Trek first, I really wish I had gotten into Babylon 5 sooner than I did. It really is great.
I think you might like 12 Monkeys (the TV show) i wouldn't put as high as The Expanse, the bar is quite high to reach, but it has great world building/science building with a really great take on time travel
Oh, Firefly absolutely and BSG! You haven't watched them before???? Oh you have much to enjoy... :D
RE shows similar to The Expanse - Babylon 5, a space opera with elements of political thriller. Rings a bell, right?
As for other sci-fi and fantasy shows - I, for one, would love to see your reactions to Firefly (+ Serenity full-length movie), Warehouse 13 (lighthearted, even silly sometimes, but with great story and awesome characters), Neil Gaiman's Good Omens and maybe The Good Place (though I get an impression it's a hard one to get through copyright issues).
The Dresden Files (stories about a wizard PI) and Almost Human (police procedural set in future with androids and electric sheep) are two of my other favourite shows, but both were cancelled after just one season. Though they provide great entertainment, they also leave me with a feeling of slight incompleteness - if you're OK with that, I definitely recommend to check them out. Altered carbon is another, even more controversial one (first season is great, second season is quite meh).
Judging by the previous content on your channel I'm led to beleive you're not into war and history dramas - but if you are, Chernobyl and Band of Brothers are the ones I'd like to see you watch.
oh, and the movies - here are some of my favourite sci-fi/sci-fi action movies: District 9, Tom Cruise's Oblivion and Edge of Tomorrow, The Martian, Moon (2009), Source Code
Who is Miller talking to? Indeed. Who is it? ^_^
We need more relaxing. Yes. Yes we do. xD
I love calling Murtree Murdery. :D
Mars is indeed changing. Pay attention to that story thread - not that I expect less, but just emphasizing. Word of the day is “ramifications” but that’s all I’ll say.
And yeah, Nancy Gao - anyone willing to go toe to toe with Chrisjen is not to be trifled with, no matter if you agree or disagree. Honestly, if her whole campaign is just “I’m not scared of Avasarala” and no policy platform I’d still be plenty impressed.
Shows I think go well with the Expanse: For All Mankind, The Orville (for the contrast), Raised By Wolves, Foundation, BSG (as mentioned). And on a slightly different note, Orphan Black was mostly good.
For All of Mankind is so good! I wish I never watched the first season so I could watch it for the channel!! It’s such an amazing concept!
It’s Marco not Marcos. As in Marco Polo.
Are you finishing Andor? There are still 9 episodes you haven’t gone through. It’s the best Star Wars TV series, IMO.
There’s also Space: Above and Beyond (1995). It unfortunately did not get renewed after the 1st season so it ends on a cliffhanger but it’s worth a watch.
Amos misstates Murtry's name intentionally as you notice by seeing the times when he does get the name right.
OMFG, watching in your opening how you react to Naomi keeping her condition a secret from Holden is just...YES! YES! YES! It's as if we have ONE mind on this...😋🤣
If I was gonna recommend shows, I'd recommend Raised By Wolves, sense8, The Magicians, Lost in Space, Black Mirror, and Altered Carbon...😏