HOW TO SHOOT FILM PHOTOS WITHOUT A LIGHT METER
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SO TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST I FEEL LIKE THE BEST WAY TO LEARN TO SHOOT WITHOUT A LIGHT METER IS TO JUST GO OUT AND EXPERIMENT I DON'T THINK ITS HARD OR ANYTHING TO PRAISE BUT I THINK IT MIGHT SAVE SOME PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AND STRESS
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Awesome video! Came across this wow looking for resources to share with someone. This is exactly the way that I meter as well... I kind of think of it as the sunny 16 rule in reverse. I typically shoot with a 50 mm f2 or a 28 mm f2.8 and typically shoot wide open as well.
1/500- sunny
1/250- shade
1/125- cloudy
1/60- indoors,dusk
I use these shutter speeds as a general starting point when shooting 400 speed film and simply shift it a bit to adjust my exposure if shooting with a different speed of film.
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Wow I've been waiting for someone to talk about this and you're the first one I'm seeing to do that. Ultimately it's all about exposure and stops of light. ISO isn't variable when using film so really it's just shutter speed and aperture that are variable. 1/500th f16 is the same as 1/250th f22 because all you're doing is compensating one with the other.
@@vizprave6721 I'm glad it has helped. I use a similar rule when exposing shooting digital as well by using the zone system and spot metering, because the meter reads everything as middle gray, each stop of light represents a tone brighter or darker. I learned this on a Pentax k1000 which only had these particular shutter speeds with the addition of 1/1000 like most basic manual film cameras, so I learned early on to set the aperture first according to the amount of depth of field I want and then simply closed down or open the shutter as necessary, this is just a general guide I have developed for myself over the years.
@@vizprave6721 I will also add that I did learn the sunny 16 rule early on but always had a problem with it because sometimes I want a shallow depth of field in a daytime shot and you're just not going to get that using the sunny 16 rule, so the only other option is to compensate my closing down the shutter and using a higher shutter speed, it's a great way for anyone to learn the exposure triangle.
This video came right 👏🏾 on 👏🏾 time👏🏾. Love your explanation about not over complicating light. Excited to learn through trial and error when it comes to my film photography
I've seen a lot of Photographers exposing with their aperture and this is something I was taught not to do. I was told to have a depth of field in mind for the shot I'm taking and work around that.
u were told the right thing, they werent.. also they overexpose by 6 stops which hopefully you werent taught too
how does the photo at 9:40 make sense? if you look at sunny 16 rule, at iso 400 and kinda sunny you should be at f8 to f16 at 1/400th, you got f3.5 and 125th and its correct? howwww is it not like 7 stops overexposed?
"I can just breathe and people be mad at me"...keep going my dude, those ppl don't matter. As a beginner, taking up film this was very helpful! much love
Reading light without a meter is only possible with experience. You first need to learn how to spot meter and shoot in manual mode especially. You can also learn from trial and error. (You can use Matrix or Center)
General light rule of thumb
F1, iso 100 at 1sec is perfect candle light exposure in a dark room.
So if you are going to attempt to learn how to. Find a iso and don't change it (iso 100). Find a aperture of F2 - F16 and don't change it (F5.6). The only value you will change is shutter speed in full stops (if your camera allows you to switch to full shutter speed stops use it).
Find a base exposure somewhere; outside is the easiest. Set to Matrix or Evaluative metering and go to 0 on your meter. Take a picture. Now go inside where it should be darker. Count how many stops you increased to get a proper exposure. Back to 0 or middle grey.
Now physically go back outside and look at the light, really take it in, then go back inside and look around at the overall light inside now knowing how many stops you needed to get a proper exposure.
Say it was a 5 stop difference between outside and inside. If it's clicking in your mind yet, continue to go to different environments with various lighting and compare it to daylight. You'll start to see light as a thing and not just available light.
If you keep taking mental notes on how many stops difference between outside and inside or wherever you will start counting stops. This worked for me. Basically I would be inside and go to a brighter room and count how many stops I decreased then back outside, and say to myself oh ok I need to decrease 4 more stops. Go to the mall and challenge myself at what the settings would be to get back to 0 or middle grey under the parking garage.
Because I was only changing the shutter speed, it made learning simple easy and having gone a bunch of different environments and guessing I started to be more and more accurate because I started seeing light as a value and not just light.
I'd say outside 1/1000 or 1/2000 done. Go under the garage, ok this looks like minus -3 stops, so 1/125. Then I would from that mental calculation adjust the other values based on effect and not exposure.
I think still to this day most people don't know how to use a meter or what +1 or -1 on the scale actually means with context.
Here's an ex. White person +1ev, Black person -1ev midtone.
If a nature photographer is in Alaska. He should set spot meter, meter for the snow. The snow should be +2 or +3. He sets his exposure to +3 on the meter in manual mode spot meter and as long as the light doesn't change, his settings the entire time don't change. If you used AP your setting would change and you'd be off.
If your camera is decent like a Nikon D3s you could set your camera for day light and shoot in raw with changing your settings as long as you weren't overexposing and adjust in post. If go to a really dark place just give yourself 2 to 3 stops of light putting you back in your cameras threshold.
you said that 1/1000 or 1/2000 is your shutter speed outside when its sunny so u go down to 1/125 / or like 1/250? because I see that when I use my light meter in the sun and I get confused like my shutter only goes to 1/1000 lol
@@youngyatta109 If your shutter speed only goes to 1/1000s, adjust Aperture. Especially if you're shooting film. I can go as high as 1/8000s if needed. I try to stay at F5.6 and iso 100 as a baseline during daylight. At night I swap profiles where my base iso is 800 going past golden hour.
Ask yourself what effect you want. Depth of field (more in focus or less in focus) or Grain and Contrast.
I sold my D3s and DF and went back to a D200 for the look. However now it only goes to iso 1600 (Hi = 3200). The controls are less customizable. I could get clean images well beyond 12,800. On the DF, b/w at over iso 102k it just looked like ilford 1600 film pushed to 12,800.
Year old question 🤣 well guess if someone else reads it, it may help.
I drive a lot and I just don't have time to fiddle with controls much so I just read the light. The D200 isn't as easy to use 1 handed as the D300 or D3s or DF.
Shooting in AP is easier, just adjust exp comp to -1 to -1.7 in Center weighted avg. and Auto ISO 100 for day time, Auto ISO 800 for night time. Point and Shoot.
-1.7 exp comp moves your LV down nearly 2 stops. A digital camera dynamic range typically only reads up to LV17 if shot 14bit raw and processed in 16bit or higher. -1.7 moves you to LV0. LV17 - 1.7 = LV15.3 which is basically a grey card in full sunlight. Digital retains shadows on good cameras 5 to 6 stops and with all these new software AI programs noise doesn't matter much anymore. Basically all that did was move highlights down nearly to 0 or +0.3 if you look at the 14bit vs 12bit EV table. People edit in LR, better to edit in Photoshop in 16bit mode or 32bit mode then convert once done. LR leaves a lot on the table, it's good for workflow.
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Honestly, you just gotta keep shooting more! Especially digital. If you’re constantly observing the numbers and seeing the instant correlation with your photography, eventually you’ll grow an eye for the exposure triangle. I’ve been shooting photos for so long I can walk into a room and say “this lighting situation looks like a 2.8, 1/125, ISO 800 kinda photo” and I’m usually correct. Keep shooting more!!!
I’m definitely a combination of “guessing” based off experience and Sunny 16 lol
I love your transparency and realism with shit bro. Just organic and genuine. You’ve helped me so much in my 6 months of shooting!
Truth, I pretty much switched entirely to UltraMax 400. Superia 400 always has these muddy green shadows that show up if the shot isn't basically overexposed. Maybe just my experience with my setup. Great video! 👌
I love Fuji's film stocks, but the green shadows can definitely be a pain in the ass.
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been using the sunny 16 rule for 3 years and just realized my fav photo ive ever taken was when i forgot to reset aperture at sunset and thought it was gonna be underexposed.. just connected the dots after watching this vid lmaooo good looks!
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Impeccable timing-- i JUST have become very concerned with this topic just starting a few days ago because my film cameras are giving me a lot of inconsistency. THANK YOU FOR THIS!
Just thrifted a few old cameras and have no light meter so thank you!
Hi I just found you through Casey Neistat and I love your videos. I began shooting 40 years ago with film and I love your presets! I've been shooting digital for last twenty years but you're inspiring me to go back to my Nikon and great glass lenses. :)
Peace, king! Well deserved! I usually just watch your content, hit like and move on. Had to take a moment to say congratulations and keep on keepin' on!
💛 loved the video. the examples of the shots you took and your exposure was helpful. thank you for sharing your experience and understanding.
If you made online classes for film beginners I’d totally throw down $$$. Some classes I’ve seen “teach you the story telling of photography”.... I don’t need to know that! 🤣🤣🤣
Stay tuned .... 🤔
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@@Atlas92936 Wise words sir
I do use a meter and started on shooting film before digital existed (yep I am old). I understand what you are essentially saying, experience matters. I often look at the light on the back of my hand and can nail an exposure from that.
One thing I would like to see is your processed film and how dense the negatives or saturated the positives are depending on stock.
I shoot an RZ67Pro II but no prism and will meter for that. Part of the metering process for me is ritual and settles me into the shoot.
Keep up tye nice work.
This is freaking helpful, thank you. I have a lightmeter, but I can’t handle it yet and I can’t trust it fully so...
Everything does make sense and my college prof told us similar things; but I am yet unable to get the right look. I need more practice and that’s why I needed this video. Thanks
I like these help videos because it's like comparing notes and tips. Don't feel like I'm being told what to do like other producers 😊
Just got a new film camera as a early Christmas gift and I am so excited to shoot, so this video was perfect and inspiring!! Thank you for sharing your advice, experience and trial and errors, it’s appreciated 👌🏽
Appreciate your time bro! As a new photographer, I'm glad I found your content. This video was simple and clear 💥
Great start mate! Props on the plaque 👌🏻💪🏻💪🏻
I relate to this, I didn't actually know what sunny 16 was until this year and I've been shooting for about 4 years! Doing digital first before film definitely helped know when to use which settings. It kind of becomes like muscle memory
I'm confused. I dont see how it could of been a bright sunny day. Iso 400 film shot at 1/125 at f 3.5. It would have to be blown out. Ive had my phone light meter on a sunny day for 4.0 and I'll still be around 1/000 or 800.
I was confused too lol
Most professional film can handle about 6 stops of being over exposed. For portra 400 shooting 2 stops over exposed is ok and results in a pastel color tones.
Portra eats up that over exposure
he also uses a full step black pro mist filter which i believe affects exposure by around one-stop
@@chilledtones9541 yeh but that was around 6 stops over, not a couple. I don't believe this.
one of the most useful videos you made yet. love from the uk
Those that want this info:
Sunny 16 should be seen as a guide and not a rule.
400 ISO film. 400th at f16 or 800th f11 or 1600th f8 or 3200th f5.6. It's a scale to use and not just how to get to f16.
Congrats! Well deserved. Your videos have me interested in trying something different and shooting film. Thank you for sharing your process and wisdom.
I’ve been waiting for this video 🙏🏾
Always looking forward to your videos. Saw the pics on Twitter, the lighting is delightful!
Ill Will!!! That's tuff. Bro thank you as always for the motivation
Dope video! Fuck the haters because obviously they aren’t doing what you’re doing or even putting in the work that you are. Let em talk and keep it Moving. Really enjoy you channel bro! Much love!
my friends always tell me i "freeball" with my light too much. i tell them "please just trust the process" photos come out very nice almost every single time.
Great video and explanation, but are all your example photos raw with no highlight/shadow editing? That would help to see what your camera settings are really doing straight out the camera.
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Great video. Very helpful! Thanks!!
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I’m shooting on hasselblad been trynna figure this out for the longest you just helped me a shit ton Thanks fam
Just started film photography and this was mad helpful Brotha
Beautiful shots bro. That PVC desk in the studio space was pretty cool too.
I really admire your reading of light without even falling back on a light meter for low light. Overexposing by more than 2 stops isn’t exactly my cup of tea, but you make it work with color negative film (higher latitude). What adjustments do you personally make for slide film?
Hi! I have a question about the outdoor shots you took in this video video. Based on the light conditions and the film you're shooting, Sunny 16 would say to use f/11 (partly cloudy) and 1/500 speed (reciprocal of the ISO). Taking f/11 and 1/500 as the starting point, the equivalent exposure for your 1/125 speed would be f/22. You shot at 1/125 and *f/3.5* and the result looks great. That's, like, 5 whole stops above the Sunny 16 suggestion. Is Sunny 16 just that useless? Or was it a lot darker outside than it looks in the video? I'm very impressed by your ability to guess exposure while bucking conventional wisdom. Thanks! Love your channel.
🥳 Congratulations!!!!!!! The gold plaque next! I use a light meter but when I don't feel like bothering with it I'll wing it based on the lighting and what I want in focus... Tell M to drop that already too, I peeped 👀!
brooo i love the educational type of videos!
You process works! Nough said. "Just do it!" Okay Nike.
all these shots were cooold af. good shit mane.
SO happy I found your channel. You have some great content.
Been waiting on this video
do more videos like this ! thank you so helpful
On the opposite with digital you want to shoot slightly underexposed to save your highlights
"i can just breathe and ppl be mad at me"....lmao well im not mad at you bro. thanks for this video hahaha
Wow, overexposing 4 stops of light if you used sunny 16. I would have never done that. Thats insane, I really gotta experiment more. The pictures look amazing
Thanks for this video. I have just got myself a 1979 Zenit B camera. My last film camera I got about 42 years ago (Olympus Trip 35) and really wanted to go back to some film shooting. My camera does not have a light meter at all, seriously basic but that's what I wanted. Useful video, but wonder if I should have got myself some portra 400.
I wish you did a Skillshare class on shooting medium format.
Just hoped on youtube and got blessed with this video. Love your work man. hopefully, we can work together in the future.
Thanks for inspiring us man . Much love woe 🖤🎞
I enjoyed this video bro...I'm going to just go out and not be afraid to fuck it up honestly..m great video G ✌🏿🖤👊🏿💯
Congrats bro. You deserve it 👍
I loved this video... thanks for the inspo and the info!
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Congrats on the accomplishment!
Man you inspiring me to get my own film camera.
I just got my first film camera over the weekend and tbh I’m just imagining what my settings would be using a digital camera 💀😂😂 probably not the best thing to do but it kinda gives me an idea, idk I guess I’ll find out when I’m done shooting the roll 🤷🏻♂️😂
needed this video, great video bro!
Talk to em cuh 🔥
Correct me if I’m wrong but is the sunny 16 rule more for the average consumer? Just to get a properly exposed photo.
Usually on 400iso film on my Minolta x700 I shoot at 500 shutter and aperture around f/1.4-2.8 with my exposure adjuster +2 stops. Comes out great
P.s. when I first started with film I would just run shutter 1000 and just adjuster my aperture around 8 daylight and 4-6 in the evenings and shadows. Awesome to see the progress I’ve made though, so fun!
As always, great video.
I don‘t get the point why not using an external light meter. If you are shooting with a 6x7 medium format camera youre already dedicated to a slowed down shooting process. So there is more then enough time to pull the lightmeter out of your pocket and press one button. And these things are not even that expensive, for 150 bucks you‘ll get a decent one. Yes, film is forgiving regarding messing up exposure but never the less with a correct metering you won‘t waist any frame. Since every frame costs a few bucks I would highly recommend everyone out there using a lightmeter just to make sure that exposure won’t be source of error. No matter how much experience you have or how well your eyes are trained there will always be a complex lighting situation where you have to guess. Peace ✌🏻
You definitely deserve that and more!!! 👍🏽 😉
We here NEW VUH ALERT!
-how do you shoot film without a light meter?
-just guess and eventually you'll be a good guesser
🤦♂
thx for the video man it was nice and smooth ....
I doubt it you are right.
I deny the correctness of the rule of Sunny 16.
Which aperture in the snow and on the beach in the summer?
My carton Agfa Berlin two ruler exposure meter made in 1920 is better.
Hey, Vuhlandes. After seeing some of the results here I am both curious and a bit confused. Sunny 16 was the only thing I have been using with my meterless Vito-C and It's been... okay, not great, just okay.
Say that picture from 9:42 in the field. According to the sunny 16, that looks to be lightly cloudy, so ISO 400, 1/400 and F11.
But you used 1/125 and F3.5. That's like. Roughly 5-ish stops over. And it still looks great, the subject is dressed in white, and it isn't blown out. So, does the rule tend to underexpose that much or is Portra just that good at handling overexposure? I am curious, if you had to shoot something like say Ektachrome that doesn't have so much latitude, what settings would you have gone for in that particular field scene?
How would you modify the Sunny 16 chart to get it closer to your preference and experience? Just shift the exposure on the chart 4-5 stops over and call it good? or is that not always suitable?
I thought the same exact thing!!! I thought, How on earth is it exposed so correctly? I thought it had to be done in post production and that he darkened the image exponentially?? I hope he answers these questions 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Same for me. I don't use a lightmeter but I still calculate from Sunny 16... No way this is possible without special treatment in developing.
You’re giving great advice!
I gotta agree man. I short digital and am transitioning to film. I’ve been on M the whole time shooting and I just kinda judge stuff and shoot
He basically shoots at shutter priority at box speed. And adjust shutter speed accordingly
Next lets get that gold button!
thank you!!!
preciate you for being a real one g
Real talk all these acessories and toools are for people who just dont have the innate talent and ability in some areas. Not a bad thing by any means but experience, patience and the will to follow your intuition is a true testament to what we can do as creators. Everyone is different and its a new time. Everyone shine in being themselves instead of one person making it seem like there is only one way to do something.
You will end up teaching alternative paths just watch lol
Great! Medium format + aperture 3.5= no focus problem, omg, how do you do it?
You dope asf! Don't have the money to be developing all the rolls I take, but Im tryna take more pics and see them. Do yall suggest I get a digital camera?
Good point in letting people experiment and do their own thing, but I do think it's as the saying goes, you need to know the rules before you break them.
Bright sun, f16 @ 1/iso
Bright overcast f11
Indoors or dusk f5.6
If in doubt, over expose 1 stop.
had to grab my fuji before the video starts
LOVE this
When you overexpose are you telling the lab you overexposed or are you developing at box speed?
I’m from Seattle so we call it the cloudy f8 rule 😂