Botallack Mine. Whats still to see Undergrond?

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
  • In this video we explore Cornwalls most iconic mine. Botallack.
    We have been meaning to do this one for ages and we finally got a chance.
    Be aware this one is exceptionally dangerous and we would highly recommend that you do not repeat this trip underground.
    Thanks for watching if you enjoyed this video why no leave a comment.
    Plenty of other mine videos to watch on my channel.
    Ben

Komentáře • 137

  • @DoodlesMcpooh
    @DoodlesMcpooh Před rokem +25

    I watch your videos so I don't have to go down these places myself. Thanks for doing all the hard work for us.

    • @Yoinkington
      @Yoinkington Před rokem +5

      "I'd love to go in there" I thought right until he vanished into the hole, at which point watching someone else do it on CZcams with my slippers on seemed like a much better idea!

  • @neilfurby555
    @neilfurby555 Před 5 dny +1

    Excellent explore, great commentary as always. Thanks.

  • @chrisb9360
    @chrisb9360 Před rokem +13

    Still blows my mind the thought of those tunnels extending out under the ocean. It must have been some experience being in that scenario.

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před rokem +13

      They said In rough weather on the upper levels you could hear boulders rolling around and getting smashed on the sea floor

    • @chrisb9360
      @chrisb9360 Před rokem +4

      @@BenoCam terrifying! Would be amazing (albeit unlikely) if one was reopened for heritage purposes. Incredible feats of manual labour.

    • @johnbarker77715
      @johnbarker77715 Před rokem +6

      I went down Geevor on a school trip when I was 11 years old. 1500 feet down and 3/4 of a mile out to sea. Water always dripping through the cracks in the rock even that far down.

    • @johnbarker77715
      @johnbarker77715 Před rokem +5

      Also I knew a safety inspector and he said some of the old shafts came within 6 feet of the sea bed. And yes you would hear the rocks rolling around

  • @densalbeach1
    @densalbeach1 Před rokem +5

    Many thanks, incredible insight into the lives of Cornish tin miners. What a hard life they had.

  • @rickhowell3847
    @rickhowell3847 Před 8 měsíci +3

    we worked for Thyssens in '85 and put in the section in the Hazard adit held up with steel beams from 4.19 on, hence the airline as we cut the beams in with CP9s. The old beams from 1907 were still there. Plenty of attle above hanging like grapes (and probably below) so we used a fixed line to anchor onto, and loaded the rubbish into plastic bags and heaved up over the roof which was corrugated iron. The shaft water looks lower than when we were there, there was a bit of an incident using the sinking cage (which we used to get down from the surface, is still probably resting on hockey sticks at the top of the shaft) when the cage struck that bridge and nearly pitched the riders into the shaft.

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Cheers Rick all interesting stuff ! Love hearing all the stories from the old miners who worked down them. 👍

  • @potrzebieneuman4702
    @potrzebieneuman4702 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Reminds me of caving with mates back in the ate 70's in Queensland. I was the skinny bloke and used to get a rope tied to my ankles and sent into narrow crawlways to see if a way through was possible. Great video and that is the BIGGEST figure 8 descender I've ever seen.

  • @corinnebrown3695
    @corinnebrown3695 Před rokem +4

    It's beautiful there, I love it, but my legs went like jelly when they first went down & walked over that bridge! Brave people 😮

  • @royfellows5468
    @royfellows5468 Před rokem +10

    Hia Ben. I did that trip many years ago by roping down below the engine houses and it was then a 10 foot handline up to the adit, a definate low spring tide job, adit was in much better condition than now. The wooden bridge over Allens Shaft was also good, I just strolled over it with confidence. The shaft is also cut by an upper adit which you would have passed on your long abseil. Over the shaft was blocked, I heard about it being dug through a few years alter but did not get around to a return trip. Nice video.

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před rokem +4

      Cheers Roy ! I didn’t realise it has been dug until recently. A shame the rock down there is so weak. There are other adits down that way but they are all very narrow and pretty dodgy !

  • @louisesouthgate5231
    @louisesouthgate5231 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Always been fascinated by this place and its history. Great to see whats down there.... thanks guys. 👍

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Cheers. Glad you enjoyed

  • @richieixtar5849
    @richieixtar5849 Před měsícem +1

    Well done

  • @paulfranklin6747
    @paulfranklin6747 Před 4 měsíci +2

    often stood there ,and a few other sites and wondered,thanks guys, proper job, interesting colour in the backs, can see why they were there.

  • @roger1uk676
    @roger1uk676 Před rokem +4

    Been there today! So loved watching this!

  • @timwright8785
    @timwright8785 Před rokem +3

    Been here so many times my favourite area of Cornwall there's an old zig zag path goes down the cliff which has eroded over the years must be more adits down on the beach

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před rokem +1

      The remains of the paths are still there although a little dodgy and it’s likely now you may fall off the cliff! There’s a couple more adits along there but they are very small and crawly.

  • @glyn829
    @glyn829 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Brilliant guys well done 👍 been there many times but no way could I go down those workings lol .. your very brave 👍 Glyn

  • @paulmanta
    @paulmanta Před rokem +3

    Its great down there. I got in a very long while ago and its nice to see some of it again.

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před rokem +1

      Ideal. I didn’t realise it was open. We looked years ago and didn’t fancy crawling in through that adit (in winter it’s often a big puddle there to crawl through) then I got told the adit in had collapsed so didn’t even go to take a look

    • @paulmanta
      @paulmanta Před rokem +1

      @@BenoCam Around 25 years ago when I was younger and much more stupid me and a mate spent the night at Botallack exploring. we got into a lot of adits that have since collapsed or been sealed up.
      The other good place to go is around the coast at Cot Valley. There were a few good adits there worth a peek.
      Not sure about Portherras cove adit in the other direction toward Zennor either, we used to go down that one all the time, we only went there to see if there was anything left of the Alacrity that grounded there with a cargo of coal in 1963
      Far West Cornwall is a happy hunting ground

  • @nigelridgeway2579
    @nigelridgeway2579 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Hi Ben, nice video, didn't Dominic Hudson dig this, I know he was on a long time but not sure if he finished it, when are you going to come to Rosevale? We are there every Saturday. Be good to meet you.

  • @dominicgandy8360
    @dominicgandy8360 Před 2 měsíci +1

    That Bull was fierce.

  • @StuFliesAroundCornwall
    @StuFliesAroundCornwall Před měsícem

    Amazing exploration - far braver than me! I think I’ll stick to exploring from above 😂
    Just subbed👍

  • @stevedrane2364
    @stevedrane2364 Před rokem +2

    Oh good grief. . You chaps are brave . . . It must have been hard work in the past to drive those roads through that’s hard granite. .
    Thank you for the video 👍👍

  • @christianmclean3331
    @christianmclean3331 Před rokem +2

    Great video Beno cam.
    The bridge of death was in such a huge chasm and Echo ey .
    The old timers removed so much rock , it's hard to get a scale on the Enormity . Thanks for uploading for all to see ❤ 🪖🔦🪜

  • @robindale846
    @robindale846 Před měsícem

    A missed opportunity at the bridge to film a recreation, YOU SHALL NOT PASS

  • @Doug-tp7pf
    @Doug-tp7pf Před 4 měsíci +3

    If CZcams had a “I’m Jealous”button I’d be pressing it.

  • @duncan.scobie
    @duncan.scobie Před 11 měsíci +2

    Brilliant...amazing to think what's under your feet in so many parts of Cornwall. Well done. Very good filming quality and dialogue .

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 11 měsíci

      Cheers Duncan 👍🙂

  • @JeffoJonJ
    @JeffoJonJ Před 7 měsíci +3

    ..You guys have had way too many spingo's haha
    Thanks for giving me vertigo 😨😨

  • @StavTech
    @StavTech Před rokem +2

    Brilliant! Those super tight places were sketchy as anything, that’s the bit I’d not do even if I did fit, which I defo wouldn’t 😂

  • @brianpentecostaldeplorable9841
    @brianpentecostaldeplorable9841 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great job ! With only an unhappy bearing and a couple of small leaks, I'd say a very great job ! Well done !!

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 5 měsíci

      Haha I know what your referring too but you managed to comment on a different video 🤣

  • @darreno9874
    @darreno9874 Před rokem +4

    Hi Ben you could do another video there all about the higher workings open to surface

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před rokem +4

      Plenty there to look at ! Will get some more done when I have a chance

  • @qldabandonedmines
    @qldabandonedmines Před rokem +3

    One of your best ever Benno! Punching out of that beach adit was really cool. Love your mine adventures, please keep them coming. Watching from QLD, Australia.

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před rokem +1

      Ha cheers that’s very kind. Will try and get some more put together !

  • @MerlinKernow75
    @MerlinKernow75 Před rokem +2

    I was there a couple of weeks ago. Nice to see underground.

  • @samanthapenbridgecourt5190
    @samanthapenbridgecourt5190 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Love watching your videos.

  • @GLK-London
    @GLK-London Před 2 měsíci

    Wonderful

  • @twin40dave
    @twin40dave Před rokem +2

    Thats amazing well done guys

  • @SteveW139
    @SteveW139 Před rokem

    I read Cyril Noall’s book on Botallack back in the 1970s and still have it. A fascinating mine and my favourite part of Cornwall.

  • @cebusapella9125
    @cebusapella9125 Před rokem +2

    Just watched a video by Cornish Xplora of the same place uploaded at the same time as yours - looks a fascinating explore, if rather dodgy! Botallack is one of my favourite places. Many thanks

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před rokem

      Yes we did it last weekend and I think he did it Friday or sat. He’s just a lot quicker at making videos than me 🤣

  • @wideyxyz2271
    @wideyxyz2271 Před 5 měsíci

    Love it. The price of Tin will rise to a point where some of this will be viable again. Bloody good explore lads 👍

  • @Carolb66
    @Carolb66 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hi Ben, yes this mine is so famous but very few including me knew its name. Stunning location in beautiful Cornwall. This video is absolutely fantastic ! So interesting, entertaining & bloody scary too! I just love your videos they are some of the the best mine explorations I've seen. I thought they are never going to cross that rickety wooden plank bridge in the mine with the drop pf 100's of feet? Yes you did! Amazing Ben & team stay safe. ❤😊

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Haha thanks Carol

  • @mirkatu3249
    @mirkatu3249 Před rokem

    Love seeing the old photos, thanks!

  • @TheNorthernTsar
    @TheNorthernTsar Před rokem

    Another great Cornish Tin Mine underground video!!
    You accomplished all of your missions & goals stated at the beginning

  • @lindathomas5500
    @lindathomas5500 Před rokem

    Wish you would upload more lol.. I always get excited when I see one of your videos has been uploaded!

  • @KernowekTim
    @KernowekTim Před rokem +1

    Righton Ben. i hope the Carnsew Clan are all well. Been waiting for this one for a brev while. Cheers, Timmy R.

  • @AdventureWithAsh
    @AdventureWithAsh Před 9 měsíci +1

    This is my fav place in Cornwall 😍 managed to climb the tower when I was there last but didn’t head into the mines as didn’t have a head torch - had no idea this was here

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 9 měsíci +1

      It is a truely horrible way in / out off the beach that puts most people off

    • @AdventureWithAsh
      @AdventureWithAsh Před 9 měsíci

      @@BenoCam looked pretty extreme - haven’t owned any climbing gear for a few years now so don’t think I’ll be attempting this one 🤣

  • @philleggitt3005
    @philleggitt3005 Před rokem +1

    Even the props have history, as i believe they could well be from dismantled wooden ships...

  • @AlexRayyy
    @AlexRayyy Před rokem

    Love this Ben, fantastic video to see what's still there and not flooded! If you're doing any more soon, I'd love to see you abseil down/where you go!

  • @Daniel-S1
    @Daniel-S1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thanks + wild horses wouldn't get me to try and repeat that.

  • @jakesgreatadventures
    @jakesgreatadventures Před rokem +3

    Amazing video you gotta visit the box mine in corsham

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před rokem +2

      Done it around 10 years ago back when you could rent a key from the pub… thought it had all been locked up ? Would like to go back with the more modern go pros !

    • @jakesgreatadventures
      @jakesgreatadventures Před rokem

      @@BenoCam did you get to the red door?

    • @jakesgreatadventures
      @jakesgreatadventures Před rokem +1

      @@BenoCam it’s still their you have to get in a back entrance

  • @darylbarnes1437
    @darylbarnes1437 Před rokem +1

    Brilliant..

  • @chrisbray1640
    @chrisbray1640 Před rokem +1

    Fantastic video

  • @JenifAR87
    @JenifAR87 Před 3 měsíci +1

    @8:48 Yeeeeeeeah

  • @kingkonut
    @kingkonut Před 2 měsíci

    i met some people coming out of there once they had no kit and had got lost in the mine they seemed very excited to have reached daylight againj

  • @kernow..exp.
    @kernow..exp. Před rokem

    I always wondered what it was like down there mate what a great video

  • @jasonhatton2122
    @jasonhatton2122 Před rokem +1

    As always great content, it'd be awesome for you to give a tour at Crofty, while they're draining it!

    • @darreno9874
      @darreno9874 Před rokem

      Please don't do that without permission, it can cause problems for the mining company especially insurance and hse.

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před rokem +3

      Haha that would be awesome. I can’t imagine they would want us anywhere near it though !

    • @DoodlesMcpooh
      @DoodlesMcpooh Před rokem +1

      @@BenoCam Could be exactly what they want. They could possibly give you a supervised tour to drum up more investment instead of claiming to find gold or other in demand ore like they usually do.

  • @steveetches6013
    @steveetches6013 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Wonderful video, thank you for making it. I visit Botallack every year with my family and it is fantastic to see what part of the workings look like. You mentioned that the area has been "shored up recently" I was just wondering has that work been done by other explorers like yourselves?

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Yes there’s a small group that go around doing things like that. Thought it was best not to name them but I’m sure they know we are grateful for their efforts. Interestingly these workings have been dug before and sadly it’s only a matter of time before they collapse and this area is no longer accessible again. It’s the nature of the ground down there. Even steel beams can’t hold up hundreds of tons of ground pushing down.

  • @simongilbert2704
    @simongilbert2704 Před rokem

    very interesting . great job .

  • @buffplums
    @buffplums Před rokem

    Yes good to see your new vid Ben

  • @AnitaDil
    @AnitaDil Před rokem +1

    Great place with breathtaking views too. I haven’t dared ever to go down that path and get close yet in all my years in Cornwall!

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před rokem

      Now you can see what your missing out on !

  • @deanmc178
    @deanmc178 Před rokem +2

    my wife just said to me , how do you not get lost , i explained the right hand rule...if you go riight right right ,,,its left ,left left to go back to where you came from

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před rokem +4

      I usually tell people we take a massive loaf of bread with us and keep ripping off bits and drop them along the way 🤣🤣🤣

  • @NicSkerten
    @NicSkerten Před rokem

    I made it down to just below the engine houses back in the late 70s before they were restored. Bit sketchy as it was a wet day and they are not the best rocks to scramble over. Never made it down to the beach as the tide had turned and was coming in. Didn't know there was a way in at the base of the cliffs which I should imagine must flood in the spring tides and storms. I believe that Botallack was always known to have "soft" rock and was one of the reasons why the undersea tunnel collapsed and flooded. You used to be able to see the red staining in the water when the seas were a bit rough but I understand that this isn't as evident nowadays - so has the breach sealed itself? Haven't been down there for nearly 20 years! Was planning a trip down to the blessed county in May with some planned photography around St Just and Pendeen but temporary health issues put paid to that!

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před rokem

      I think the breach was at Geevor as there was a job years ago where they grouted it sub sea. It’s certainly a beautiful part of the world and there’s plenty down that way to look at.

    • @NicSkerten
      @NicSkerten Před rokem

      @@BenoCam I think I remember when there was some efforts to reopen Geevor that they were looking at linking in to the old workings of some of the adjacent mines - so that may have been it.
      Yes it is my favourite part of Cornwall - I grew up down there and still regard it as home even though I've not lived there for 50 years.

  • @leemartin5878
    @leemartin5878 Před rokem

    Very interesting

  • @evanrichards3015
    @evanrichards3015 Před rokem

    I love it when you go undergrond

  • @kingofthemountainstdf1370
    @kingofthemountainstdf1370 Před 5 měsíci +1

    How do you if the air quality is good the deeper down you go ? It is clear from the video your comments say you can feel the sea breeze. But deeper down, if you do not have a air monitor, how can you be sure there is sufficient 02

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 5 měsíci

      Well that’s a good question. Metal mines tend to be very good for air quality but that’s no guarantee it’s going to be ok. Especially down west with adits on the cliff like that even small, with the constantly windy weather (especially winter ) any tiny hole in the shafts behind and the wind will find its way up the mine and clean the air. An air monitor is a great idea though I would recommend taking one.

  • @Carolb66
    @Carolb66 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thanks

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 9 měsíci

      🙂 That’s the first time anyones ever done that 😍
      It is appreciated. I do make a little bit of money from the adverts but it rarely covers the yearly amount of kit I kill in the process of filming them all. I have already killed one GoPro and two video lights so far this year 🤣

    • @Carolb66
      @Carolb66 Před 9 měsíci

      @@BenoCam it's not much but I just want to show my appreciation of what you do. I will definitely get you more coffees or some like cake! 🥰🍰☕️

    • @xlaptopx
      @xlaptopx Před 8 měsíci

      Carol, they need to take you along as tea and sandwich lady! 🤣@@Carolb66

    • @Carolb66
      @Carolb66 Před 8 měsíci

      @@xlaptopx 🤣👍🥰

  • @petepaine5331
    @petepaine5331 Před rokem

    Brilliant vid, thanks Ben. Just been upto Minions and had a look at some engine houses and Gold digging quarry. Was Botallack the mine the queen Victoria when down ?

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před rokem +2

      King Edward visited and went on a underground tour with queen Alexandria in 1905 ! Not sure about Victoria but possible. One of the kings also went down the iron mine at Restormal so it must have been a popular trip at the time.

  • @abyssaljam441
    @abyssaljam441 Před měsícem

    The national trust not being okay with you going into an old mine makes little sense to me. Yes a random guy showing up with a phone light crawling in would be incredibly stupid but it's a different thing with experienced cavers doing it. Like mines are meant to be accessed by humans so must be more safe than a cave as they have all the same hazards but you can fit through all the tunnels (assuming they haven't collapsed)...

  • @zaf9834
    @zaf9834 Před 8 měsíci +1

    The way you came back up at the end has that way mostly been eroded now? I was wanting to go down to the lower area but there was a notice up restricting anyone to go down.

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 8 měsíci

      There’s been a notice there for a number of years it’s just a tick in the box for the national trust so they can wash their hands of any liability from anything that happens the other side of that notice. If you think it’s a suitable risk and you are happy with it just simply step over the wire and continue on down but go steady especially if the rocks are wet.

  • @petertrevorah7689
    @petertrevorah7689 Před 3 měsíci

    Gonn meur ras a’th gwydheo splann. Byttegyns, nyns yw da genev an spasow mar dynn. Nebes ownek ov y’ga hever!😫

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 3 měsíci

      What language is that ?!

  • @lindathomas5500
    @lindathomas5500 Před rokem +1

    Who do you think shored it up?

    • @lindathomas5500
      @lindathomas5500 Před rokem +1

      Also a couple of modern lights (blue and pink) left there on the rock, wonder who left them behind. 😀 6:58

  • @HighWealder
    @HighWealder Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hazard by name, hazard by nature 😂

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 7 měsíci

      Wheal hazard is right up there with my all time favourite “wheal busy” which is between chacewater and scorrier ! 🤣

  • @FirstNameLastName-ev3jk

    Interesting video.
    Do you know how recently the shoring up work was done?

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před rokem +1

      The last year I think , maybe even last 6 months. It’s been collapsed a long time

  • @darren-dxn-106
    @darren-dxn-106 Před rokem

    Great trip Ben & crew, There is and use to be a slightly easier way of getting into the main shaft under the head gear, It was not passable last time i looked, Entrance a bit further along, Do you know of it?

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před rokem

      Is that the collapsed adit up high on the way down ? That’s heading towards it . Looks well collapsed !

    • @darren-dxn-106
      @darren-dxn-106 Před rokem

      On your right as you walk back up the miners path.

    • @darren-dxn-106
      @darren-dxn-106 Před 9 měsíci

      yes, if you don't mind me coming along sometime on trips like this i'd be up for it. cheers

  • @dougodgers2650
    @dougodgers2650 Před 5 měsíci +2

    With great respect- you're mad !

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 5 měsíci

      😍🤣🤣👍👍

  • @sailingona
    @sailingona Před 11 měsíci

    Ace

  • @SimenRenslemo
    @SimenRenslemo Před 7 měsíci

    Do you think the tunnels that extend out under the sea are flooded or could they still be dry?

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 7 měsíci +1

      They are most definitely underwater !

  • @kernowbysvyken5600
    @kernowbysvyken5600 Před 10 měsíci

    whats that behind you at the start of the video

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 10 měsíci

      It’s the site of one of the old buildings. It was a little breezy and I was just using it to get some shelter. It does look a bit like a shallow adit, there are a few there but they all go to collapses a short distance in.

  • @caitlynray5118
    @caitlynray5118 Před 9 měsíci

    Ok where can I do this for my birthday ? In January I’m in Florida

  • @vince6299
    @vince6299 Před rokem

    Hi Ben . any ghosts in these Cornish mines .?

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před rokem +4

      No. Ghosts don’t exist.

  • @andreask6230
    @andreask6230 Před 4 měsíci

    Interesting video, that's for sure. However, if you ever find yourself stuck in one of these holes, I will completely understand if there is no one willing to go in and search you. Sometimes you just have to take responsibility for your own stupidity.

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 4 měsíci

      Well thankfully there are people who would be willing to come look for us just like I would happily go and look for another lost or trapped underground explorer. I would do this because of all the people like you, who either wouldn’t or couldn’t because they don’t have the skill set.

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před 4 měsíci

      Let’s not forget the dogs that’s people like myself have rescued or looked for down mine shafts too. Done a few of them. Maybe we should have left them down there, after all the dog was stupid enough to fall down.

    • @andreask6230
      @andreask6230 Před 4 měsíci

      @@BenoCam Sure, any firefighter or other rescue staff is happy to jump into a crumbling hole to save someone who is looking for CZcams fame.

    • @andreask6230
      @andreask6230 Před 4 měsíci

      But anyway, you are smarter than a dog. It’s your choice. I confirm videos are very exciting and I like to watch

  • @martinriley106
    @martinriley106 Před měsícem

    This is not brave this is stupid and often ends up putting our RNLI at risk when you people get into trouble?

    • @BenoCam
      @BenoCam  Před měsícem

      Have you accidentally commented on the wrong video Martin?
      This has absolutely nothing to do with the RNLI, they rescue people out at sea.
      Plus no one said anything about it being brave.
      Most people watch this and are just fascinated what’s underground which is still accessible by those suitably well trained and equipped (that would be us by the way)

  • @IgnorantNortherntwat
    @IgnorantNortherntwat Před rokem

    Excellent video, thanks! I used to go caving with Plymouth Caving Club, but never got down to the Cornish mines. You should have eaten a pasty down there for tradition😊