I love ND filters I normally use Hoya which I fine are generally good without breaking the bank but just brought some Lee ND grads but it seems anything with Lee on means remortgaging your house. Great and honest review.
I just purchased K&F ND2-ND32 for $65 from AMAZON with 82mm diameter and also bought step- down/step-up adapter rings to fit my Canon and other and other primes. Waiting for delivery this week.
My K&F filter arrived today. Amazing quality for the price of AUD $43.00 for a 67mm. There is no play in mine at all. Its just right for our strong daylight in Australia. I love their adaptors too, they fit really well. Thanks for your video.
Hey! Great review. Unless I’m bonkers, you mentioned that the Tiffen has no noticeable color shift in-use . . . And yet when I look at the test brick wall comparison, I can definitely see a yellow shift in the Tiffen shot. Am I crazy? Or are you? Hahahahaha
Great video. Thank you. I can't get over how many folks are pushing the Polar Pro line? Yes they are great, but it's almost like buying music gear. Will a $2,000 compressor sound better than a $400 compressor on a singers voice? The answer is no. I'm going K & F and if it's not great I'm only out $30 and not $260.
Yeah I'm also curious to know how it turned out. I'm currently looking at cheap ND filter reviews and I also shoot on a Sony APS-C camera so it would definitely help me make a decision
I own two _Singh-Ray Vari ND_ filters, a 77 and an 82mm. They were super expensive and I've never been happy with them. I don't like the cross-x effect and the color shifting. They remained mostly unused in their faux leather pouch. I think the traditional single strength NDs are better and far less expensive.
NDs are much like prime Vs zoom lenses, the variables have more limitations in terms of performance but offer the great flexibility of effectively having several strengths in one
@Allen Carter It's so good but it leaves a heavy green tint which I like as it makes it look more of like an Arri Alexa, I'm using it on my Canon SL2, I can send you an examples of how it looks like when I'm using it.
K&F Concept is not a main manufacturer company. They and others sell same products with their brand name. For example K&F Concept, Zomei, Viltrox, Neewer etc. You will find common products under each of these brands. Mainly Tripods, Bags, Filters, Cleaning Kit. led lights, accessories etc.
I just ordered the K&F filter you have a few days ago. Has to be better than the neewer one I got in a kit. I'm new to photography but I am familiar with optical coatings neewer has 0. Great video!
Bought the K&F ND Filter, it took a month to arrive, they sent the wrong item, a FD to M4/3 adapter that I have no use for and it costs much cheaper. Their costumer service is shit too
Thanks. With respect to your statement about videos, I just ran into that. I am new to the DSLR world , and I just bought a nifty fifty, and filming during the day with a snow-covered background, yeah not working..
You shouldn't get such a small size for filters, especially for variable ND because the bigger the size the less amount of side effects you get like vignetting. It is highly recommended to get 82mm size filters and use step up rings on your lenses. This way the lens only uses the center portion of the filter (the best part).
I have the K&F Variable ND filter on my 24mm tilt shift lens and i love it.I didnt notice any image loss that is obvious,very versitile filter and for my other lenses im using polaroid UV filters (£20 each)...Once again they look good,most likely there is image loss but i dont really see it.
That's exactly what I found Bill. I only did comparison tests at the end of my review time and that was when I noticed a very minor difference. But when actually using the lens, pixel peeping the images I took with it I was very happy with the results
Hi, thanks to share the interesting video. Out of curiosity: do you not think a variable ND filer is more convenient if it has a lever on the ring to be able to move the lens more easily to shoot videos? Thank you
While I buying fujifilm x-t20, authorised fujifilm dealer sells me k&f uv, nd and polarised filter set. They discount it very good and I didn't say no. Lets watch what i bought after i bought already :D
I plan on buying a more expensive ND filter, for now I will stick with the ones i purchased from NEEWER. They aren't too bad for the price, but I'm sure an expensive variable ND filter will blow mines out the water.
Alan Currie the company is chinese tho, I think. I was on the chinese aliexpress ( what chinese people actually use, but you’ll have to find special ways to ship it overseas) I’m not sure what price christaki found it for but it was only around 10 USD !
I hope you can read this. I film at 24p shutter at 1/50sec but my footage is still too bright even with ND filter. We have the same exact filter the k&f nd2-400 isn't powerful enough for me because my footage is still too bright even at f3.5 and i can't push my nd filter any further because X mark will start to show up. Help me what should i do Please help me i want to keep my shallow depth of field without sacrificing my shutter speed?
If you want to keep your aperture wide open, your shutter speed unchanged and your ISO is at its lowest setting then the only other option is to further reduce how much light is entering your lens This can either be done by reducing the amount of like around or by using a stronger ND filter ND400 is already 8 stops less light but if that's not enough then maybe look at getting a 10 stop fixed strength filter
I used a test image for comparison of your filter being on the lens and off the lens. First test was without your filter to make sure I was getting a sharp image also tried it with multiple lenses to make sure I did not have a problem with getting a sharp image with any of the lenses. All the images with the Two lenses I used were perfectly sharp without your filter. I then use your filter on the lenses using the same settings and got terrible results. The image was completely unusable blurry after installing the filter. Also the color shift was not acceptable. The lenses I used were of high quality Canon L glass series lenses.
Not tried the 2 in 1 personally, however so far I have only heard positive things about it In terms of if can use it with a hood, that's really down to the individual lenses, some lenses with bigger hoods should allow the filter to mount inside however I generally just shoot without the hood
Lenses usually state the filter size on them, look for a circle with a line through it and then a number of mm's next to it - this will tell you what size filter screws onto the lens
It's generally best to get a filter at least the size of your biggest lens. You can get step down rings to get it to fit your smaller lenses if needed.
67! Then you can buy a cheap set of step-up rings to adapt it onto the rest of your lenses. Then you don’t have to buy multiple filters, because you can’t put a smaller filter on a bigger size lens, obviously. For example a 58mm filter on a 67mm lens diameter lens. Wouldn’t work. The filter is too small. But, if the filter’s too big then that’s a quick fix (the step-up/step-down filters)
I'm wondering why they have a nd 2-400 for $25, 99 and a nd 2-32 for $51,99 (72mm size). I would prefer the range of a 2-400 but looking at the price it must be shit compared to this one?
Do you know how this compares to a cheap, non-variable ND filter from Altura. They are $15 and if it wasn't for stellar reviews on Amazon, I wouldn't even consider them. They are only 3 stops though but they maybe of decent optical quality since they are fixed. Any experience with them?
I'm trying the NEEWER brand and did a video on it if you'd like to see what they look like. I didn't think it looked too bad, but to each is on and I spent under $20 for them on Amazon
Depends how many stops you need, the weaker filters are generally favoured for video as you're more restricted with how fast a shutter you can use to control exposure The heavier stops are favoured more for photography for long exposures but the ranges are a bit like zoom lenses, the greater you make the range then generally the greater the impact on image quality
The mm refers to what size the lens the filter will screw on to so ideally you'll want a filter the same size as the front diameter of your lens If your lenses have different sized fronts then it's normally wise to buy filters at the size of the widest front lens that you're likely to use the filter on and then use step up rings to put the filter on your smaller lenses Hope that made some sense
@@DaveMcKeegan that made total sense but where can i find step up rings because it seems to me that i can just buy a really wide lens and adjust it accordingly. Or is that not the case?
Sort of depends on the environment but ND32 is equal to 5 stops reduction which is the difference between having to shoot at f16 Vs being able to shoot at f2.8 So it might not allow you to shoot at very fast apertures when in environments with strong light but it will definitely help a lot
K&N filters for your car
K&F filters for your camera 😂😂
Haha nice one!
@@gymathletenl7488 x
I love ND filters I normally use Hoya which I fine are generally good without breaking the bank but just brought some Lee ND grads but it seems anything with Lee on means remortgaging your house. Great and honest review.
I just purchased K&F ND2-ND32 for $65 from AMAZON with 82mm diameter and also bought step- down/step-up adapter rings to fit my Canon and other and other primes. Waiting for delivery this week.
Could you let us know how is your experience with K&F. Especially being on cheaper end of filters, how is the image quality?
Can you please update?
ND2-ND32 should be sufficient for most of the videography work. For photography work just get non-variable ones.
Interesting review man! And as extra you added a nice little pun at the end: "thank you so much for STOPPING by" 👌
I just bought one. I can’t wait to try it out 🥳 . I’ve never done daytime long exposure 🤩
My K&F filter arrived today. Amazing quality for the price of AUD $43.00 for a 67mm. There is no play in mine at all. Its just right for our strong daylight in Australia. I love their adaptors too, they fit really well. Thanks for your video.
Can you tell us the model parameters? Which one exactly.
Thanks!
@@gepinomus ND2-ND32 NanoX
Thanks a lot! I'm buying ND8-ND128 Variable Neutral Density ND Filter Nano.
How is it? Im looking to buy one as well
Hey! Great review. Unless I’m bonkers, you mentioned that the Tiffen has no noticeable color shift in-use . . . And yet when I look at the test brick wall comparison, I can definitely see a yellow shift in the Tiffen shot. Am I crazy? Or are you? Hahahahaha
I seen it too, and I’ve actually seen similar yellow tinting on quite a few of the Tiffen ND and polarizing filters
I see it too
Great video. Thank you. I can't get over how many folks are pushing the Polar Pro line? Yes they are great, but it's almost like buying music gear. Will a $2,000 compressor sound better than a $400 compressor on a singers voice? The answer is no. I'm going K & F and if it's not great I'm only out $30 and not $260.
just ordered a K&F filter for my sony a6300 kit lens 16-50mm. I"m going to try it out and see how good the filter is, thanks for the review
How did you end up liking it? Was thinking about going with one for a a6400
Yeah I'm also curious to know how it turned out. I'm currently looking at cheap ND filter reviews and I also shoot on a Sony APS-C camera so it would definitely help me make a decision
Been after ND filter and looking at the K&F one's. After watching this will give them a try. Thanks for sharing buddy. 👍👍👍👍
I own two _Singh-Ray Vari ND_ filters, a 77 and an 82mm. They were super expensive and I've never been happy with them. I don't like the cross-x effect and the color shifting. They remained mostly unused in their faux leather pouch. I think the traditional single strength NDs are better and far less expensive.
NDs are much like prime Vs zoom lenses, the variables have more limitations in terms of performance but offer the great flexibility of effectively having several strengths in one
big facts about the twisting off the filter for the tiffin. I think imma go with the K&F.
I bought a K&F 49mm slim fader ND 2-400 variable :)
@Allen Carter It's so good but it leaves a heavy green tint which I like as it makes it look more of like an Arri Alexa, I'm using it on my Canon SL2, I can send you an examples of how it looks like when I'm using it.
K&F Concept is not a main manufacturer company. They and others sell same products with their brand name. For example K&F Concept, Zomei, Viltrox, Neewer etc. You will find common products under each of these brands. Mainly Tripods, Bags, Filters, Cleaning Kit. led lights, accessories etc.
Exactly. I even found a review of Manfrotto tripod that was basically generic chinese one (same ballhead as Zomei etc...)
What is best K&F concent nd filter or ZOMEI ?
I just ordered the K&F filter you have a few days ago. Has to be better than the neewer one I got in a kit. I'm new to photography but I am familiar with optical coatings neewer has 0. Great video!
Bought the K&F ND Filter, it took a month to arrive, they sent the wrong item, a FD to M4/3 adapter that I have no use for and it costs much cheaper. Their costumer service is shit too
Thanks. With respect to your statement about videos, I just ran into that. I am new to the DSLR world , and I just bought a nifty fifty, and filming during the day with a snow-covered background, yeah not working..
Sold. Just ordered one on Amazon. Thanks!
How is K&F ND8 - ND2000 nd filter, does it has X cross at higher stops?
Great video and explanation, thanks! Do both filters have front threads? Allowing you to add , say, a black pro mist? Thanks again!
Brutally honest...I love it...
My 49mm K&F does not have the min/max hard stops you mentioned. Really wish it did.
You shouldn't get such a small size for filters, especially for variable ND because the bigger the size the less amount of side effects you get like vignetting. It is highly recommended to get 82mm size filters and use step up rings on your lenses. This way the lens only uses the center portion of the filter (the best part).
Wow, really great points and honest review. Instant sub and bell hit!!!
I have the K&F Variable ND filter on my 24mm tilt shift lens and i love it.I didnt notice any image loss that is obvious,very versitile filter and for my other lenses im using polaroid UV filters (£20 each)...Once again they look good,most likely there is image loss but i dont really see it.
That's exactly what I found Bill.
I only did comparison tests at the end of my review time and that was when I noticed a very minor difference. But when actually using the lens, pixel peeping the images I took with it I was very happy with the results
Hi, thanks to share the interesting video. Out of curiosity: do you not think a variable ND filer is more convenient if it has a lever on the ring to be able to move the lens more easily to shoot videos? Thank you
The orange aspect of the K&F filter could be a cuestion of white balances?
thanks. looking to buy one
Is it D-Series or Nano series or K-Series filter?
I don't know what's the optical difference?
What about clarity, sharpness & vignetting?
While I buying fujifilm x-t20, authorised fujifilm dealer sells me k&f uv, nd and polarised filter set. They discount it very good and I didn't say no. Lets watch what i bought after i bought already :D
Thank you very much
I wonder what inspired this thumbnail... 👀
anyone know the difference between the K series vs B Series VS D Series? Im getting super lost.....
Gobe are also great filters 50- 100 bucks.
I plan on buying a more expensive ND filter, for now I will stick with the ones i purchased from NEEWER. They aren't too bad for the price, but I'm sure an expensive variable ND filter will blow mines out the water.
You'd think Zeiss would play in this game.
K+F is much cheaper on AliExpress 💸
So many counterfeits though, it's a gamble
Alan Currie the company is chinese tho, I think. I was on the chinese aliexpress ( what chinese people actually use, but you’ll have to find special ways to ship it overseas) I’m not sure what price christaki found it for but it was only around 10 USD !
Precisely, the 2-400 one for $12 and the one he has for $60
@@huij1099 yes I use the site, look at reviews from buyers, it is a sea of counterfeits when it comes to buying filters
What size should i put for 50mm lens sony 1.8? I only see 49 and 53mm
Is there any decent lens cap to use other the top?
Tiffen 72mm varialbe. But the glas got loose ion one of the sides and some how it got a crasck right at the ring so I am looking for a replacement.
I’m considering this and the Gobe 3 peak. Any thoughts on which one is optically superior?
Any suggestions on how to unscrew the damn thing off my lens?... Ive tried everything except hammer and oxy torch
Don’t know...I’ve already tried the tiffen’s and on his maximum level I always notice a tinge of green in my footage. It’s really annoying :/
Will I get vignetting
I found some ND for like $15 decided what the heck if its really that bad I can just Chuck it out, delivery is 2nd of July lol
6 months later... how's it been bro?? haha im debating exactly this
11 months later, how's it been?
July 3 for me 2020
16 months later, how it's been bro?
2021... lol
Thanks for a great video! Dose all vb nd filters make the pictures apear warmer?:)
There is usually at least a slight shift with all but the highest quality filters
I'm using the Zomei MD-800 varible
Zomei is that good ? I mean vigneting or color shift?
For long exposure
How did you go about correcting the color for the k&f filter? for future reference.
Moved the colour temp about 300K towards blue
If you're using capture one, a simple adjust with tool levels will fix any color cast.
Hey Dave, any recommendations for a polariser filter
No. Don’t get one. Unless you have water or glass reflecting light.
I hope you can read this. I film at 24p shutter at 1/50sec but my footage is still too bright even with ND filter. We have the same exact filter the k&f nd2-400 isn't powerful enough for me because my footage is still too bright even at f3.5 and i can't push my nd filter any further
because X mark will start to show up. Help me what should i do Please help me i want to keep my shallow depth of field without sacrificing my shutter speed?
If you want to keep your aperture wide open, your shutter speed unchanged and your ISO is at its lowest setting then the only other option is to further reduce how much light is entering your lens
This can either be done by reducing the amount of like around or by using a stronger ND filter
ND400 is already 8 stops less light but if that's not enough then maybe look at getting a 10 stop fixed strength filter
I used a test image for comparison of your filter being on the lens and off the lens. First test was without your filter to make sure I was getting a sharp image also tried it with multiple lenses to make sure I did not have a problem with getting a sharp image with any of the lenses. All the images with the Two lenses I used were perfectly sharp without your filter. I then use your filter on the lenses using the same settings and got terrible results. The image was completely unusable blurry after installing the filter. Also the color shift was not acceptable. The lenses I used were of high quality Canon L glass series lenses.
sounds like perhaps you got a bad copy and should return it because that was far from what I experienced with that filter
Is the 2 in 1 version any good?? (nd&cpl). Also can you use the filter and the hood at the Same time??
Not tried the 2 in 1 personally, however so far I have only heard positive things about it
In terms of if can use it with a hood, that's really down to the individual lenses, some lenses with bigger hoods should allow the filter to mount inside however I generally just shoot without the hood
@@DaveMcKeegan awesome! Thank you!
What millimeters nd filter should i buy if i have nifty 50 thank u and inadvance
Lenses usually state the filter size on them, look for a circle with a line through it and then a number of mm's next to it - this will tell you what size filter screws onto the lens
@@DaveMcKeegan thank you dude!
is this compatible with canon m50 kit lens 15 -45 mm ? please help
Yes, for the 15-45 ideally you'll want to get the filter in 49mm size
@@DaveMcKeegan are you sure bro?
@@SurajTiwariMusic the Canon 15-45 has a 49mm filter thread diameter, so any 49mm filter will screw onto the front of the lens.
@@DaveMcKeegan thanks a ton bro❣️❣️❣️
I have 3 lenses 67mm 58mm 49mm. What size ND filter do I buy?
It's generally best to get a filter at least the size of your biggest lens. You can get step down rings to get it to fit your smaller lenses if needed.
67! Then you can buy a cheap set of step-up rings to adapt it onto the rest of your lenses. Then you don’t have to buy multiple filters, because you can’t put a smaller filter on a bigger size lens, obviously. For example a 58mm filter on a 67mm lens diameter lens. Wouldn’t work. The filter is too small. But, if the filter’s too big then that’s a quick fix (the step-up/step-down filters)
Can i use a 67mm nd filter on 72mm lens size
You can as long as you put a step down ring on, however with the filter being smaller than the lens there is a very high risk of strong vignetting
@@DaveMcKeegan okay dude. Thanks for replying.
Got a nd2-400 for 10 quid. Now that's a price
Good vid
I'm wondering why they have a nd 2-400 for $25, 99 and a nd 2-32 for $51,99 (72mm size). I would prefer the range of a 2-400 but looking at the price it must be shit compared to this one?
Yes it will likely be down to optical quality.
Do you know how this compares to a cheap, non-variable ND filter from Altura. They are $15 and if it wasn't for stellar reviews on Amazon, I wouldn't even consider them. They are only 3 stops though but they maybe of decent optical quality since they are fixed. Any experience with them?
Unfortunately not. The last cheap ND filter I bought was a Kood and the it was so soft I thought my lens was misfocusing :D
Haha. My guess is Altura ones are like that too. Thank you
I'm trying the NEEWER brand and did a video on it if you'd like to see what they look like. I didn't think it looked too bad, but to each is on and I spent under $20 for them on Amazon
Hi. What range do you recommend for those K&F filters? ND2-32, ND2-400 or ND8-128?
Depends how many stops you need, the weaker filters are generally favoured for video as you're more restricted with how fast a shutter you can use to control exposure
The heavier stops are favoured more for photography for long exposures but the ranges are a bit like zoom lenses, the greater you make the range then generally the greater the impact on image quality
@@DaveMcKeegan Thanks, man.
Does the mm matter on the filter?
The mm refers to what size the lens the filter will screw on to so ideally you'll want a filter the same size as the front diameter of your lens
If your lenses have different sized fronts then it's normally wise to buy filters at the size of the widest front lens that you're likely to use the filter on and then use step up rings to put the filter on your smaller lenses
Hope that made some sense
@@DaveMcKeegan that made total sense but where can i find step up rings because it seems to me that i can just buy a really wide lens and adjust it accordingly. Or is that not the case?
really wide filter i meant and adjust it to the lens
Do you get any X pattern this lens filter?
Not a with this one because it has hard stops at minimum and maximum, you only get X patterns when you go beyond what the filter is designed to
@@DaveMcKeegan thanks for the response! Picking up a 82mm version.
Subbed 👍
Welcome 😁
Wondering why they didnt send him there nd2-400 filter 🤔.
Anyway cant wait to get my one 😁. Hop that is not garbage O:).
No sure, I didn't get a choice.
So can't comment on the ND2-400, but this one isn't garbage
Was a coincident that you review a filter from them,a week after i ordert one. I cant wait for my filter. Like to try out long exposure 😁
is 32 is good enough in shooting videos?
Sort of depends on the environment but ND32 is equal to 5 stops reduction which is the difference between having to shoot at f16 Vs being able to shoot at f2.8
So it might not allow you to shoot at very fast apertures when in environments with strong light but it will definitely help a lot
@@DaveMcKeegan 2 - 5 stops means nd2 nd4 nd8 nd16 nd32?
Almost
ND4 - 2 stops
ND8 - 3 stops
ND16 - 4 stops
ND32 - 5 stops
Etc etc
thanks a lot... you saved me
Plz tell me how to directly connect camera to andriod for editing!!!
Even though you don't know how to spell android... here it is.
bfy.tw/MKLF
You shoot at 25 frames per second? 😮
Yes, PAL counties run at 25fps rather than the 30fps of NTSC
Thanks Dave, great vid, I bought the K&F THEN looked at reviews lol , not the best way around but hey ho
good review …………………………….
the play will mean water can get in there
I am getting nd2 to nd400 haha
Köln Germany ❤️
A beautiful city indeed 😊
@@DaveMcKeegan and very useful video of course 😊
Hello sir... Where's your giveaway......😁i m waiting
haha, you are very keen aren't you :D
sir....u r very kind.....Nice to see u again...
Made of plastic?!
The outer casing, not the optics themselves
This is not really a review. Move on.
This channel is becoming an ordinary sales channel, time to unsubscribe. Bye!
Hahahaha, I review 3 things in and around other videos and suddenly now I'm a sales channel?
Bye
Why not if it is? Explaination is clear and in depth...I'm happy especially that dave recommend cheaper products