Ogre Kingdoms in The Old World

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Komentáře • 50

  • @harrybrass734
    @harrybrass734 Před 5 měsíci +16

    I'm pretty sure you could get 2 ogre vangaurds from AoS and like 1 more box of stuff and have a decent 2k list, may be the cheapest army in the old world!

    • @tonk84
      @tonk84 Před 5 měsíci +6

      2 vanguard boxes and a couple of firebellys/butchers and you're grand

    • @ThisIsMonkeyy
      @ThisIsMonkeyy Před 5 měsíci

      I checked and you definitely can as long as you take a couple of magic items.You actually end up HAVING to take magic standards in both units of Bulls as otherwise you don't have enough Core unit points. You also have to limit yourself on upgrades for the Leadbelchers/Mournfangs, as otherwise they end up taking too great a % of your points. I'm not sure it would be a GOOD list or not, but hey that's a low barrier to entry and you can add stuff from there.

  • @cheekibreeki3039
    @cheekibreeki3039 Před 5 měsíci +10

    Luv me Ogres, simple as. Had a chance to see you on Saturday, regret not saying hello still was good to meet you from a distance. Who won in the end Beastmen/WoC or Empire/Dwarfs? Keep up the old world content.

  • @thegametroll6264
    @thegametroll6264 Před 5 měsíci +1

    They are definitely one of my most favorite legacy factions from old world warhammer and age of sigmar. Take what you want? Smash what you want? Eat what you want? Fans of food and wealth? My kind of faction!

  • @sarahhillary7698
    @sarahhillary7698 Před 5 měsíci +5

    No Gorkamorka nonsense here. Only the MAW!

    • @sassyviking6003
      @sassyviking6003 Před 5 měsíci

      Praise be the ravenous one. I have become much less salty about AoS over the years but how they did ogres dirty is an insult that still stings.

  • @feuerklinge9004
    @feuerklinge9004 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I found the Firebelly worked great on an Araby Carpet in 8th. He becomes basiclly an afforable dragon. Don't know if it still works in ToW tho.

  • @keitholiver6152
    @keitholiver6152 Před 5 měsíci

    The strongest army in this edition right now for me, and an amazingly fun playstyle. Got it all

  • @eskhaphey2873
    @eskhaphey2873 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Well you caught that Daemon Sayer Scars are 20 points common item... but you didn't pick up that you can give it to some unit champions, like Ironguts :D

    • @MountainMiniatures
      @MountainMiniatures  Před 5 měsíci +4

      oooooh good catch! that's one of them their Auto-Includes.

    • @peisenxu952
      @peisenxu952 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I was just wondering what to get for 25 or less pts last night. Jesus.

    • @eskhaphey2873
      @eskhaphey2873 Před 5 měsíci

      I'm currently working on completing a list with 7 units: Tyrant on Stonehorn, 2 Firebellies, a Bruiser in bull unit, 2 irongut units, and a mournfang unit... all cause Terror :D

  • @Rubymagicalgirl88
    @Rubymagicalgirl88 Před 5 měsíci

    I run chaos Ogres, this version of ogre charge is seriously making me want to run more the 6 ogres. It's 3-15 in the chaos army I think expensive but tempting

  • @cameochris
    @cameochris Před 3 měsíci

    I think a good player could win a tournament with ogres cause they are slept on Bretonnia and Empire armies would get chewed up by Yehtees

  • @Rogov8
    @Rogov8 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Shame Sabretusks are no longer s tier screener (min 2 unit), leadbelchers cannon is weaker. Gorgers, manhunters, yhetees are all very expensive. Cheaper heroes, better ironfist and ironguts is not bad though

  • @Last_March_of_the_Gents
    @Last_March_of_the_Gents Před 5 měsíci

    The 4 pts between ironguts and bulls with ironfists does also mean thatvthe bulls have 4 attacks. Also inititive 5 instead of 4 on a charge
    Against low armour horde, bulls have there place.
    Chucking veteran in you have a 6 pts difference, so basically 6 iron guts vs 7 bulls. Id take at least one healthy unit of bulls rsther than a throw away 3 man unit, and then an irongut unit.

  • @wolowizard4441
    @wolowizard4441 Před 5 měsíci +4

    What size ranks would be best for ogres? Typically in fantasy they were in ranks of 3 models but now base sizes have gone up I feel ranks of 4 would be better, like a unit of 8/9 bulls or ironguts would benefit more from a 4x2 or even 4x3 set up rather than a 3x3 or 3x4

    • @peisenxu952
      @peisenxu952 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Ogres stayed on 40s and from the moment I saw that on the FW post I thought 4xX was the right way to go. You can strike against 5xX 25mm units with your entire front rank that way - and you want to maximise to win those combats.

    • @wolowizard4441
      @wolowizard4441 Před 5 měsíci

      @@peisenxu952 This is what I was thinking too mate, because everyone got wider ogres need to go at least 1 wider too to counter this, I still haven’t gone over the rules but I’m not sure how many models they need to count as a rank, if it’s 3 then that’s great because you can go 4xX and if one dies (3 wounds tough 4) you’ve still got your rank bonus

    • @peisenxu952
      @peisenxu952 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@wolowizard4441 you also need 4 to be able to place characters in the fighting rank if you have full command I think

    • @wolowizard4441
      @wolowizard4441 Před 5 měsíci

      @@peisenxu952 I did not think of that!! Very good point!! That’s sold then, 4 it is

  • @peisenxu952
    @peisenxu952 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I wouldn't be so quick to call Ironguts always better than Bulls. I'm not sure if you already considered this but when you say "4 pts gets you great weapons and LD" I don't know if you included the -1 attack. I mean, as an I2 unit I do think they might just be better with great weapons, but still.

    • @mattl2k6
      @mattl2k6 Před 5 měsíci

      I would think the extra strength and AP values of the great weapon would more than mitigate the 3 attacks they get instead of 4 from the bulls.

    • @sassyviking6003
      @sassyviking6003 Před 5 měsíci

      That one stuck in my craw a bit too. Like in 8th edition I honestly think itonfist bulls were better value for cost. The strength from greatweapons will be overkill and wasted value against any T3 foes you face and damage has never been what ogres struggle with. They hit hard. But survivability can be an issue. So the parry in 8th making bulls tankier than ironguts was a big deal.
      In this edition I also think that extra attack will be more worth it than the great weapons against most targets.
      He also completely ignored how dangerous a little bomb of trappers causing dangerous terrain checks can be. That was devastating back in 8th. You don't have to do much damage to earn your value back when you only cost 5 pts per model.

  • @3_ogres_in_a_trenchoat
    @3_ogres_in_a_trenchoat Před 5 měsíci +1

    I'm so excited for ogres

  • @warp_machine9141
    @warp_machine9141 Před 5 měsíci

    Might be wrong but i believe hunters always were on 50x50, at least my 6th edition model came with a 50x50

  • @SkinkChief
    @SkinkChief Před 5 měsíci

    Great content as always bud ♥

  • @vidking999
    @vidking999 Před 5 měsíci

    Hi, you mentioned the Tyrant has 100 points if magic items, my pdf didnt have any points values on for any of the tyrant upgrades or the Hunters. Can you advise any corrections for the pdf??

    • @mateuszgrzyb8922
      @mateuszgrzyb8922 Před 5 měsíci

      You can buy up to 100p of magic items for your Tyrant. List of magic items is on page 21 of official OgreKingodms pdf.

  • @squarehammer9349
    @squarehammer9349 Před 5 měsíci

    Watching now!

  • @oukt237
    @oukt237 Před 5 měsíci

    👍

  • @johnbailey8567
    @johnbailey8567 Před 5 měsíci

    FOR ALGORYTHMO! FOR THE STEVE! FOR LUGNUT MCGILLYGULLY JR THE BESTIGOR!

  • @cristianvinuela6513
    @cristianvinuela6513 Před 5 měsíci

    Can you dispel only one spell at conjuration phase or you can dispel all of them "remains in play" ?

  • @thomassaxon8254
    @thomassaxon8254 Před 5 měsíci

    Hunters have always been 50 by 50 so they can rank up with the sabretusks.

  • @grff
    @grff Před 5 měsíci

    How do mercenaries work? Not heard it mentioned elsewhere i dont think

  • @feuerklinge9004
    @feuerklinge9004 Před 5 měsíci

    17:50 Can someone explain that? Is the Initiative bonus for charging new?

    • @AceRenegade-te4xk
      @AceRenegade-te4xk Před 5 měsíci

      Yes it's new, you can gain a bonus to initiative depending on how far you charge. You can get up to +3 Initiative for charging in front arc (1 point for every 3 inches of movement) and +4 initiative for charging flank and rear (1 point for every inch of movement) if I remember correctly

  • @Zgredu666
    @Zgredu666 Před 5 měsíci

    Could you please redo the dwarfs? Pretty please 🥺

  • @lcmiracle
    @lcmiracle Před 5 měsíci

    I dunno how much thought they put into the legacy lists when it comes to the setting itself -- I myself am most disappoint with the Chaos Dwarf legacy list for using only the Tamurkhan army list, very sad, very sad.
    Though I wonder if they are gonna release an Ogre Mercenary "arcane journal" or "army book" in the future, like, it's perfectly justifiable to have Ogres over in the Old World at this time, since older army books also stated that Ogre Mercs were widely used on both sides during the Great War -- not to mention Mordheim. I hope they do keep the 8th edition timeline for the Leadbelchers, if this happens, and exclude the Leadbelchers for not being in existence until 2420 IC (like they did the Luminark and Hurricanum).

  • @jolamber
    @jolamber Před 5 měsíci

    Did i miss gorgers?

  • @jackruby6696
    @jackruby6696 Před 5 měsíci +3

    No Rhinox riders

    • @feuerklinge9004
      @feuerklinge9004 Před 5 měsíci

      Sad day for ogres....

    • @darwinfowler8877
      @darwinfowler8877 Před 5 měsíci

      Felt like Rhinox Riders were an add-on that the army didnt really need. IMO GW should have invested more time into the army's hero pool and making the army more interesting instead of creating larger units that were a little redundant. They were cool models for sure, probably deserved their own book and fully fledged out roster. Hell they could take the Yetis, hounds, and hunters and I would be okay with that.

    • @Bog_Dog
      @Bog_Dog Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah sad to see, but will save me money trying to buy some lol

    • @AJMalice90
      @AJMalice90 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Rhinox riders were forge world, but you never needed them. I used to run a gutstar and mournfang..... Everything died.... Good old days

    • @sassyviking6003
      @sassyviking6003 Před 5 měsíci

      Rhinox were always a forge world add on. They really aren't needed. If you want legendarily punishing super cav Mournfang rill the role.

  • @sassyviking6003
    @sassyviking6003 Před 5 měsíci

    Man, I really disagree with some of your takes here. Back in 8th, with the parry riles, I honestly think bulls were better than ironguts. They were tankier, cheaper, and hit almost as hard against most targets. Strength 6 was overkill and wasted value on toughness 3 enemy infantry. In this edition I can see them having a place. The ironfist granting armor and extra attack at the same time ses really good.
    And if dangerous terrain is anything like it was in 8th (I haven't seen those rules yet) then the gnoblar trappers will be real good. Of course they die if anything so much as looks at them, but they are also incredibly cheap. They are like an explosive, 1 use, but doing significantly more points in damage than they cost. And they will also be good warmachine hunters, sure.
    I really like mournfang here. In 8th they could get 2+ armor and parry saves. Thwy were real hard to put down on top of being monster damage dealers. Woth the general reduction in AP in ToW i think with 3+ armor they should be just as tanky.