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Take These Broken Wings -- Healing from Schizophrenia, Cure without Medication (FULL FILM)
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- čas přidán 7. 04. 2014
- This film is in 22 languages on CZcams:
日本語 (Japanese): • 統合失調症についてのドキュメンタリー、薬なし...
Deutsch (German): • TAKE THESE BROKEN WING...
Español (Spanish): • 'Toma Estas Alas Rotas...
Français (French): • « Des ailes brisées »,...
العربية (Arabic): • فيلم وثائقي عن الفصام,...
עברית (Hebrew): • סכיזופרניה, דוקומנטרי,...
简体中文 (Simplified Chinese): • 精神分裂症纪录片，无药物康复，乔安.格林伯格...
繁體中文 (Traditional Chinese): • 精神分裂症紀錄片，無藥物康復，喬安.格林伯格...
Nederlands (Dutch): • VLIEGEN MET GEBROKEN V...
Ελληνικά (Greek): • Πάρε Αυτά τα Σπασμένα ...
Italiano (Italian): • "Ali spezzate", Docume...
Português (Portuguese): • "Pegue essas Asas Part...
Hrvatski (Croatian): • „Uzmi ova slomljena kr...
Svenska (Swedish): • "Håll Mina Brutna Ving...
Dansk (Danish): • "Take These Broken Win...
Suomi (Finnish): • Nouse näille murtuneil...
Norsk (Norwegian): • «TA DISSE BRUKNE VINGE...
Lietuvių (Lithuanian): • "Paimk šiuos sulaužytu...
Русский (Russian): • "Сломав крылья, вновь ...
Čeština (Czech): • Let na zlámaných křídl...
Български (Bulgarian): • Полетѝ с прекършени кр...
English subtitles: • Take These Broken Wing...
Featuring Joanne Greenberg (bestselling author of "I Never Promised You a Rose Garden"), recovered for over fifty years. Interviews with Peter Breggin, Robert Whitaker, Bertram Karon, and Catherine Penney. Directed by Daniel Mackler.
My website: wildtruth.net
My Patreon: / danielmackler
I've watched this film dozens of times and it gives me so much hope. I can't thank you enough for making and sharing it with us
Stay strong Julia!
@@kubasniak same like Julia Murphy ...this video I started watching three weeks ago and I'm watching again and again and it's giving me lots of hope....
@@kubasniak can you tell me ..what ever they are saying in the video,Is it possible?
@Zeb Ra best documentary on sczophernia...
@@aaymathebest4705 I see you popping up all over the place i hope your well
She talks about how her therapist always appealed to the good parts in her. That is so amazing. In Buddhism they say the same thing: "Don't try to fix what's 'wrong' with a person. Recognize what's good and right and it will grow."
We live in a world where we always try to fix the "wrong" without recognizing that there is nothing wrong.
Beautiful Bastian
I have schizophrenia. My mother also had it too. It might seem terrible. But its really not the worst thing in the world. I have seen and felt far worse things than schizophrenia. Don't be a victim of the misunderstandings or insecurities of this dark world. More importantly Don't ever give up .
Sending you love of the universe
@@albertoascari2542 it's the same I just reword in case someone has religious trauma
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Pharmaceutical companies disliked this video
lol
This is very important information!! 15 years ago I suffered a diagnosis for schizophrenia, and after around 9 months of heavy medication (including Haldol) was lucky enough to escape (I refused medication on the grounds of being pregnant, and then moved to a different country). Through sheer will-power and without any form of therapy or medication (which I found myself averse to) I recovered (it took years), studied, have a job, a son and no-one can take away the sense of strength it has given me to know that I have the internal resources and know the patterns of my own mind well enough to be healthy.
My brother is diagnosed with schezophernia..he refuses to admit it wont take medication..he moved out doesnot talk with family..how did you recovered without medication? how to deal with my brother please suggest
Hi Hargun, thank you for the message. Schizophrenia is a very complex disorder and part of the problem is that those afflicted (myself included) misrecognise the fact that there is anything wrong with them. To me, the fact that I seemed to hear people's thoughts (one of the symptoms in my case) seemed perfectly normal. I couldn't accept people (including medical professionals) around me telling me that this was not the case. A lot of people argue that medication can stabilise these symptoms and I would support that (but some medications Haldol for example, which they gave me) have next to barbaric side-effects. I think the newer generation of neuroleptics are better in that respect. The problem with thinking that this can be cured by popping pills ONLY or MAINLY is a folly because the danger is that it does not treat the root cause of the onset, often a traumatic event or bad childhood / family dynamic etc. and it does not teach people mental strategies for coping with the condition. (It is cheaper though and pharmaceuticals make more profit from this approach, but that's a different story).
The most important and critical thing for your brother will be some form of healthy human contact, be that with a therapist or other healthy human being. Schizophrenics are at risk of surrounding themselves with similarly disturbed or dangerous people who could compound the condition and not provide a model for mental and behavioural health (indeed, unhealthy social/familial relationships / traumatic social experience and drug consumption as a maladaptive coping strategy are often triggers for schizophrenia or psychosis). This is where you/your family (as long as the family dynamic is healthy and not abusive or sick)/healthy friends could be really important. In my case, I had a pregnancy and decided to completely focus all my mental energy of bringing a healthy baby into this world. I became really focused on looking after myself during the pregnancy.. I ditched all medication including antidepressants, I stopped watching TV (I was getting what I thought were subliminal messages from TV/radio/internet etc) I focused on healthy eating and not putting myself into risky situations (taking things really easy) and stopped smoking and taking any forms of intoxicants. Part of it was also that I taught myself to recognise schizoid thoughts in my head (for example, thinking that there was an "external" force guiding me etc.)...that really helped. But it took me over a decade :)
Thank you soo much for your reply. The problem we are facing now is he moved out and he wont let any of the members to visit him, he changed his phone number. We are soo much worried for him. Last year he was in a state like coma/catatonia for almost 2 weeks...he was on IV he didnt even move, all he was doing was breathe and sleep. Doctor prescribed him resprodine, he has not insight he is sick, he is soo aggresive towards the family, he thinks we are planning a conspiracy against him. We doesnt even listen to doctors.
Hello Alex Smith,
Thx you for sharing. Do you still have the voices in your head today?
Check this out. I totally believe this man is correct. I had similar experience to his. czcams.com/video/Nn6hqqY7x2E/video.html
Seeing these ladies talk rationally, gives me hope for my son. ❤️
This is exactly what I just thought about! 🤍🤍💙
Yes don't give up hope. Please
Be supportive as you can...
I am 24 and have schizoaffective disorder. I went from being a hospital patient when I was 19 to being a behavior therapist now. If someone has good family and medical support, I think anyone can live beyond the disease. I hope that gives you some hope for the future.
There is way more value in this documentary than all the lectures i've attended in my abnormal psychology classes this term - this information needs to be more known. Thankyou for the great work your spreading!
+Caitlin Black why thank you, Caitlin. glad to hear!!
the perspective of schizophrenia from theory is not the same from the point of view of experience when i was diagnose my worst nightmare was not that i was not able to listen but that the ones that diagnose me were not able to listen to me
I hope you have people that can hear you now.
Caitlin Black I would like to commend you for you common sense approach. I have a mental illness, it began at age 20. Scizoaffective, bipolar type. You would be an excellent Doctor. Your empathy, being true to your self not selling out. The character strength, is valuable. The mentally ill need you. God speed Caitlin. Harold
lets start a healing home resort . team up . need one here doctors nuts and deadly evil .
I bet "schizophrenia" can be caused by stress in a person's environment. Other people (abusive spouse, parents, for instance) and situations can make you feel crazy. Suppose you didn't have any way to get away, anyone to listen to you or you did tell people what was going on and they thought you were just delusional or something. You could go crazy just being told there was nothing wrong when you knew there was.
Exactly !
Isolation..
Uhh i think that's what the film is implying...
Poverty, war too.
I was labeled schizophrenic because my actual problem wasn't billable in the 1970's and 80s. It worked out for the psychiatrists just fine. They medicated me with strong chemicals that gave me the symptoms of schizophrenia and sedated me beyond the point of being able to describe what I was experiencing. I was forced permanently damaging toxic treatment. The harm yet lingers.
What is your actual diagnosis? Are you still on the meds?
I'm sorry to hear of that cruelty. Wishing you well.
This is such a wonderful video! As a teenager I developed paranoia and somehow I cured myself using my intelligence, nobody knew about it. I work as a frontline worker in a transition house for women fleeing violence. I’m going to do my best for my coworkers to see it. Thank you so much Daniel
Brilliant💗🌪
Wow. Just wow.
I am healing from multiple personality. 17 ys tormenting brain damage. I am at peace now. Just looking for a career to support myself. The world is all brand new. I am on my own. From Florida USA. God bless. I love you all.
Awesome. How are you doing now?
AWESOME!!! HOW IS LIFE GOING FOR YOU TODAY:) I PRAY THAT YOU DIDNT ALLOW YOURSELF TO REVERT BACKWARDS:)
When someone is in this kind of pain, it helps to watch others actually recover,,, what a gift!! THIS IS SO GOOD!! THIS is RIGHT ON!! This is great validation for so many "CRAZY" People!! :)
Drink 8 cups of water per day to be healed of mental illness. Taper off your medicine slowly. Jesus loves you!!!
wow it saddens me so much that everyday people think such negative things about people with schizophrenia
right... the prejudice on mental health is just horrible, they make you feel even more isolated than you already feel.
@@8scatterbrain8 exactly.
Acceptance and love is the foundation of all healing.
people are idiots, the majority don't think because they are too warped up in themselves
Yes! Me, too Eza .... it just makes me sad. I have a relative with schizophrenia. I'm proud of him. I love him.
Yep.just like a broken down car, that's been neglected, and abandoned, all it needs is someone to see that broken down cars potential; and help the car become the luxury car that it has always been. 😊
Although I've never been psychotic, I fully relate to these patients in my recovery experience from stifling trauma. This is fantastic material.
I have schizophrenia and this documentary is right on. I am forced to take meds by the government. I think me taking meds for this illness is likened to blood leading in the past.
Michigan Politics try a super healthy whole foods diet with no animal products, methylated B12, vitamin D3, zinc, K2, magnesium.daily meditation and hard daily exercise
How blessed the world would be with more compassionate people as these.
"I Never Promised You A Rose Garden" is one of my favorite books, so it was awesome to see Joanne Greenberg be featured in this doc and see how her life turned out.
One of the best documentaries I've ever seen. Thanks for your work. I wish more people suffering from schizophrenia would be exposed to this type of content. Keep up the good work!
thanks!
One of my fave films, ever!
Didn't know how much I had been unconsciously "brainwashed"
both as a person and a Psychologist,
Until I saw this film.
TOP RECOMMENDATIONS!
why thank you!
The same for me :) As a psychologist I love to see this movie!
I am so glad that I found this video. My son has been so ill for almost three years that I thought he could never get well again. I now have HOPE!
I love the two woman you chose to do this documentary about, and their stories are so inspirational. I just love the work you are doing making these videos....
I have a lot of friends with schizophrenia and I absolutely love them. I think they are some of the most fascinating people that exist. They are stronger than most to endure what they do. It's my belief that schizophrenics are extra sensitive to other realms and frequencies. I think they are savants with extreme ESP. It seems like they are tapped into the spirit realm that the rest of us are unable to perceive. They can see beyond the veil that most humans are oblivious to. It would certainly be difficult to function in this realm if you were constantly perceiving another and it would make you seem insane. That's just my own personal theory based on what I have seen from my many friends who have this. They ALL seem able to perceive things that are spiritual in nature and distracted by otherworldly things not perceived by the rest of us. Just because we don't experience what they do, doesn't mean there is something wrong with them. It may be that they are just uniquely wired and in a way they are like X-Men. They have superhuman abilities that ostracize them from the rest of us who are neuro-typical.
Danial, a lady in my apartment complex screams, yells, (basically has this so called Schizophrenia) she yells, screams, and cusses all the time. I’ve yelled at her, my neighbors have yelled at her but I recently talked to my cousin about her and he said, “she just needs someone to talk to to figure out all the thoughts she has in her head because they are all jumbled. He said once he took the time to talk with her she did a lot better. He’s been a good help but sense he is on a high does of pain medication he’s probably not the best person to do so but it’s interesting how if you make a person feel normal and take the time to listen they’ll feel safe. It’s a great documentary. I’m gonna change my mind set on how I see this lady.
As a child I was diagnosed with schizophrenia and exposed to Thorazine and stelazine and was also given Ritalin to counteract sedation. .
It made me extremely anxious .at age 40 I was diagnosed with autism and finally i realized I was never psychotic in first place .
Long term effects of meds was increased chronic anxiety and increased sensory issues especially to sound .anti psychic meds made my life harder.thankfully I was taken off meds by the time I was 13 .had I been on them from age 11 on I doubt I’d be here and able to write this now .
I Never Promised You a Rose Garden is one of the best books I ever read .
I had an ex who turned out to be in psychosis. I had noticed some things but didn´t know what it was all about. After 6 months together this person told me about these voices and hallucinations. It was scary, we were both teenagers back then. It was very sad that when this person finally got help, they would only treat it with medication. It was not long after getting out of hospital with pills described, that this person went missing. Was found drowned in a river after 4 weeks and no one knew what had happened. It still haunts me. I think it´s sad that in a welfare state like Finland, someone diagnosed with psychosis/scitzofrenia ends up homeless and dies at the age of 19.
People are starting to realize the truth about what is going on more, although very slowly... in reality what is sad is that someone suffering from this is put on medication and ignored most of the time when what SHOULD be happening is the victim should be hugged and held and talked to often because of the 'mind rape' they endured and should work with other people until they learn their flaws in thinking that led up to the problem. Most of them try to commit suicide because believing that others are aware of your thoughts is humiliating! I was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and I have been on a path of recovery ever since I stopped taking the medication... all that I had to do to fix it was think more until everything that was off was back on track again. I have absolutely no fear of this condition returning to me out of my control. I BEAT IT WITHOUT MEDICATION!!! Its sad how many people think this cannot be done!
I stopped taking medication.. ate lots of raw organic food and felt like there was 'snaps' happening inside my head and the voices would die down, kind of like my ears were popping.. I'd do my best not to listen to voices by going where it is most quiet, not being around TV, etc. What helped more than anything was figure out how everything was just a hallucination and that my thoughts were private.. revisited all my scary memories of weird occurrences and find how I was off.. dismiss everything that I thought that I knew and start over with a scientific approach as someone who has a problem with hallucinating. I developed many exercises to help rid the voices.. after a couple months they were gone forever. I feel that they cannot come back.
Yeah I think diet has something to do with it... the last time that voices came back was when I lived off of pizza for a week. I felt tingling inside my head behind my ear on my right side on the last day and then started hearing a deep voice coming from the right. I think not having dairy for awhile helped.. but also garlic gives me sores and so I know that is not good for me either.. It felt like my head was clogged.. and then it started popping when I went to all organic raw food for a couple weeks. Why containers of salt?
For exercises.. one of them I'd interrupt the voice whenever it would start speaking by saying the first letter that I heard out loud over and over until it stopped.. and repeated this while meditating so I wouldn't be able to hear what was being said. Another exercise I did was put on music that reminded me of being a child (like nostalgic video game music) and played soduko as fast as I could for a few days straight and that would get rid of them too. While playing I would pretend that I was a child again playing the video game.
Congratulations on what you've done here, it gives me a little hope. I was diagnosed schizoeffective just two years ago after my first break. I too thought I didn't need the medication after my first hospital visit so I stopped taking them and was fine for six months or so. Then to my surprise it was like I was in the Trueman show and back to the hospital I went. Currently I get one shot per month to control my symptoms. Take only that one drug. Still though I wonder if I could function without it. If I wasn't so scared of the consequences like giving away nearly all my things(twice), I would stop the shot now. However when I go psychotic I go all out....I'm the messiah of the world here to lead a new world order of truth and love. Don't need that happening again, lol.
firstname lastname that is exactly how it feels mind rape. any pointers on how to overcome.
Fully support this. Will be looking to learn much more. As a psychologist I have huge concerns about the use of drugs to treat emotional woundedness.
Thanks, Daniel for creating a film with such a hopeful, rational perspective. Joanne and Catherine do a beautiful job of describing their experience and recovery. The clinicians you interviewed are also persuasive.
Take those broken wings, and learn to fly.
And the wings hurt yourself and you have to deal with it *ironic* its a thing to help you xD im just joking... Only body heals it self
i feel so bad for people suffering from this, i have complex-PTSD, completely different illness, but I can understand the nature and reality of mental illness.
I have cptsd too. But heeeealing:) hope you are too.
Same!!!! My good friend has schizoaffective and although i only have C-PTSD i can empathize so much with what they're going through as well as others that have psychotic disorders. I could have very easily developed a psychotic or personality disorder with the trauma i went through and i feel so grateful that i only came out of it with C-PTSD, as much as it does suck to have.
complex ptsd can lead to schizophrenia! Complex ptsd is the cause of all mental illnesses. If course, different conditions create different results!
Hello Daniel... I just want to let you know that I spent the entire evening listening to you. I've enjoyed hearing your experiences as a therapist, therapist-in-training, and person-at-large. I'm a counselor-in-training, and I've struggled with certain paradigms/assumptions/attitudes that dominate my little program such as diagnosis, drugs, arrogance, power, money, bureaucracy, hierarchy, academia. I relate deeply to your critique of the industry of therapy/counseling/psychiatry. Also, knowing definitively that schizophrenia has in fact been cured through therapeutic relationships is also helpful. Thank you for doing what you do...
Brian Hudson cool Brian -- and thanks. greetings to you!! Daniel
Thank you again Daniel, for illuminating the truth.
Well done. So very moving🙏
What an incredible film, so great to see these women thrive after such painful experiences, thanks to truly caring and imaginative therapists. Doesn’t surprise me at all about the recovery rates of those who came off medication vs those who stayed on it. My favorite quote was “I wanted Joanne to know, when she recovered, it was her and not the medication”. Jeez we need more therapists/medical professionals like that 🙌
Thank You to everyone who made and share this film. What stands out to me is the respect shown to the sufferers as being persons no less than any others. This is a huge boost over the usual viewpoint. I love the halo over Bertram Karon while he's promoting kindness and understanding as being basic in therapy! I love the fact that all the professionals were willing to abandon the lies that have been told so long. Gives me great hope for so many!
Daniel,
Thank-you for your skillfulness, in making such a compelling film. I love films in general, and this was masterful. It clearly came from your heart and soul, combined with your wonderful creativity and intelligence. Thank-you for uploading it, so that I can share it with some who would otherwise not be able to access it. I feel I have learned so much about myself and others and the human condition. Special thanks to Joanne and Catherine for bravely telling their stories, and bravely "fighting the good fight," finding meaning and purpose and value in life itself. Special thanks also to Robert Whitaker, for your amazingly clear and research backed work, offering us the "research antidote" to all the distorted "brainwashing" that we've received about mental illness and about how much medication will "profit the patient." Thanks also to all the mental health professionals, who have found the courage to offer better than the "normal standard of care." I guess I'm feeling pretty grateful from watching this movie, eh?!!
Deep Respect,
Suzanne Lerner, PhD
Clinical Psychologist
Thank you for this documentary, it was very interesting and i like how it's made. Definitely not one of those commercial documentaries with dramatic music and same material repeated over and over.
I came from a very dysfunctional family, including one schizophrenic patient who's old now and has been on medication for many years. It's so sad to know that there could be a way out.. I started therapy about a year ago and it really gives a hope to break the cycle of various disorders, depressions, addictions my family suffered from. It's unbelievable what can be achieved with a proper care and understanding. Faith in humanity has been restored!
thanks. i made it -- on my own budget, back in 2007 and 2008. here's an interview with me explaining how and why i made it: czcams.com/video/9-_sytUZV7o/video.html all the best, daniel
Choppy.
I just found out my daughter's got this. Im looking for hope.
Thank you for making this video. I was 11 in 1976 and diagnosed with borderline schizophrenia. I didn't exactly have as successful life as the two in film but I managed it pretty well considering I have lived with host of medical/mental issues from being confined in solitary confinement and drugged as child, other immune, pstd and depressions issues.
I have lived with voices and occasional hallucinations since I was toddler. I had very severe issues with antipsychotics and other psych meds so I quit taking them years ago.
My cousin and one of my first childhood friend I had(I never had many due to how I was treated or my differentness and tendency to isolate) who developed a very severe case of schizophrenia when I was teenager. She never fully recovered she died three months ago from cancer on my birthday. For her it seem to get worse and between adolescent and her first bout of cancer she got worse and worse.
I wanted to understand this more so I am glad I watched your video. Thanks
Dagon Xanith ❤️
Please consider the wool which has been pulled over my eyes for 63 years to be well and truly lifted. So glad to have found this - it’s a revelation.
Just inspiring beyond words. Love all these people and their stories. Heros in my book!!!
This was so beautiful, I didn't want it to end.
Very touching film - had me in tears throughout. Thank you.
The power of affirming, trying to understand, and seeing the best in someone rather than pathologizing them.
schizophrenia can arise from being over ambitious, being tough on yourself, and god willing it so, and being better can be from being on holiday from life, taking your meds. being somewhat creative...
Excellent documentary. Thank you for sharing. This gives me great hope for my family struggling with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.
This is a really wonderful documentary. I had known for a long time that if people were really supported and made to feel safe during what we call a 'psychosis', and if the process (it is a process if you let it be one) is allowed to work through to completion, then typically there's a kind of death and rebirth experience, and the person comes out the other end with a renewed sense of self and world. I knew some practitioners in the West call it a 'spiritual emergency', 'spiritual crisis' or 'spiritual emergence', and that other cultures tended to view it as a special spiritual initiation - and some would take the experience as indicative of a shamanic vocation. What I had never heard of is a patient Western psychiatrist admitting what should be obvious to us all - that they actually know nothing about the phenomenon - and using the patient (the only primary witness of the phenomenon) as a means of exploring and understanding the phenomenon, and by doing so I believe the patient loses the fear of the phenomenon, is able to observe it and acquire that wordless familiarity we call 'understanding', and through that quite understanding obviously the mind must transform, because understanding obviously transforms the mind (think about it - if I understand how a car works, obviously that changes the mind. If the mind understands how it itself works, then that understanding is likely to increase harmony and resolve contradictions and conflicts). Anyway, I can't help but do a little sermon when I leave messages on this subject because it is so important and so poorly understood. I even wonder if our medieval approach to madness was any less enlightened then that of the modern psychiatrist: certainly the latter hasn't made significant strides forward, and what enormous unwitting violence it commits on an industrial and global scale.
I am happy for these people who have been able to work through their issues Schizophrenia, and are well. I am happy that you have put this documentary up on CZcams to help people through their mental health issues. I do believe that healing Schizophrenia, is possible. But sadly many people are stuck in their diagnosis of Schizophrenia,
I’m only 4 min in and I can already tell this will be amazing… from the bottom of my heart and all the other “crazies” thank u for giving us a voice ❤
Wow, this is one of THE most incredible documentaries I've ever seen - period. Very eye-opening! Thank you.
This was so powerful and deeply touched me. It has changed my perspective in a very positive way. Catherine and Joanne are heroes and the strength of their spirit is beautiful and incredibly inspiring. Thank you for your wonderfully important work, Daniel!
Watching again as this is such an amazing and import film! So much truth. Schizophrenia is truly a protective mechanism against severe abuse and with patience and care (instead of drugs), these patients can truly become well!!!
This is one of the wonderful ground-breaking work ever done in relation to schizophrenia. Dr. Daniel - the amount of hard work that has gone into this video. The editing. Wow! The world needs to see this! Especially the caretakers of schizophrenics and so-called mental health care professionals and importantly, the general public. This video spreads so much awareness about that condition. The keyword is HOPE. That is what whoever that is suffering from this condition needs! Bravo!
Thank you from my heart and mind for sharing your documenaries freely.
I am truly blown away by your gift to the world - in this global world - global mental health - where millions of people can now find inspiration, hope, humane empowerment through your films 'Take These Broken Wings', 'Open Dialogue', 'Healing Homes', and 'Coming Off Psych Drugs'.
You are supporting millions people in dire need presenting and exploring alternatives for humane healing from severe distress and find means of collective action for social change. More gratitude than words of gratitude.
Thank you for posting this great video. Gives me hope for my son who is dealing with schizophrenia. It's been a long road for him and I pray he will get the help he needs soon.
Nothing is impossible with God.
Pl email vmnbs900 @gmail com we would like to start a support group for moms
Please let me know on his condition my nephew was just diagnosed with schizophrenia I looking for answers and some treatment that has worked for people suffering with the illness
Hugs not drugs.
You are a profound, empathetic, patient man, Daniel. You've done fantastic work in this life. I thank you for every video you have uploaded. I wish I could repay you in a substantial way. All I can give right now is my gratitude and recommending your videos to others.
I'm currently recovering from schizophrenia. I believe I am a schizogenic double-blind and that my schizophrenia was caused not born. I've found that reframing the voices was the key to my recovery along with getting back in touch and speaking to poignant people in my past.
Thank you from the deepest part of my soul. Your work has meaning.It is based on an ethic of compassion,empathy, most important love. As you ascend on your healing path, you are spreading truth, hope and again love- to those of us that need it most. The sick, and what society deems ' normal', in equal non judgemental measure. You are a beautiful human being.
I cannot believe…. They tell my story. You tell my truth.
I’m so excited there are others who know the truth.
How blessed I am to have stumbled on this video. There must be hope for me. Thank you so much Daniel and participants.
Truly inspirational (and emotional) on many levels. How wonderful to hear positive outcomes. We need a revolution in medicine and especially in mental health treatment (without drugs). Thank you for doing such a wonderful job in your film making and for sharing!
Fantastic stuff.
I love your editing, it's lighthearted yet respectful of the patients and the subject. It makes me feel your familiarity and love for this important topic and the people involved.
Thank you for your work Daniel!
Thank you so much for the video.. i diagnosed with schizophrenia since Nov 2020 . I refused take meds, move and live alone, meditate, 3 months after.. i just want to go traveling.. seeing new view. In this lifetime i got different label but, ok.. let's see what purpose of my life in future.. mila-32-indonesia.
This is the best overall documentary on this subject. No BS
I dont know a schizophrenic who has stopped medication without catastrophic results so this isnt feasible long term. Ive yet to meet a schizophrenic who fully recovered without mediation, close monitoring and a personal support system. I had a close friend from childhood whose life was obliterated as a result of this horrific disease. Now my child's playmate, now grown, struggles with schizophrenia and its painful to witness. There has to be laws put into place to offer continuity of care, rather than society and government turning their backs on these souls.
+Michelle B hi michelle. certainly the traditional paradigm of care (endorsed by most of the traditional medical community) has pretty disastrous results for people diagnosed with schizophrenia. and for a lot of people coming off meds is a hellish process with very negative results. but not for all, by any means, and there's lots of psychiatric research to back this up. also, it can be harder to get off the more modern medications. and often people are offered little support when coming off and come off way too fast -- in part because they hate the way the meds make them feel. this is common. and it's harder to come off the meds too if people have been on a while. worse withdrawal, etc. easier to come off for many people if they've been on a shorter time and at lower dose, and also if they have a really stable life and support system in place when they start coming off. having a supportive, knowledgeable psychiatrist (which is often rare) can be very helpful for people coming off or just reducing their meds. all this to say.....it actually is quite feasible for many people to come off their meds, to great improvements in their lives. and many people do it and have done it. usually not easy, but do-able. all the best -- daniel
+Daniel Mackler p.s. i see in the subtitle of your channel that you like to watch documentaries. you might like the documentary i made called "open dialogue" -- on the finnish open dialogue project, which gets the best results in the world for the treatment of psychosis. they work largely without meds, though they're not anti-meds. czcams.com/video/HDVhZHJagfQ/video.html (sorry to link to my own work, just trying to add to the dialogue :) ) -- daniel
As much as the medical community wants to discount the early childhood theories about schizophrenia and just make it a genetic thing, I've never seen a schizophrenic that came from a compassionate, loving home that didn't have some form of abuse or neglect. There may be a genetic component to how they deal with trauma, but there absolutely is an influence from the mother and father.
I agree on that I came from an verbally abusive mother who wasn't present later on ar formative moments she only used harsh words with me and made me feel worthless its no wonder I went on to hear the same thing from others that turned out to be my own delusions..I was also abused at school verbally...The brain eventually starts to create its own version of those formative abusive voices into adulthood..It ruined my career and family life ..I am surprised anyone married me..I was first diagnosed at 20 it can be a lifelong illness with good and bad times. Around that times and neighbours son started to develop the illness his parents were strict people not much love their either..Schizophrenics get a bad rap seen as dangerous or mad or just a nuisance I doubt many really are .
I was diagnosed with schizophrenia and i stopped medication after i stopped got a lot better mentally physically and i lost the weight i gained 40 pounds my metabolism sped back up i am waiting to be diagnosed competent to gain my life back but i have learned patience so i will talk for as long as it takes but i will never use legal or illegal drugs all drugs are horrible for you i would like to be an advocate for schizophrenia and let people know it can be cured
I have an INFJ personality. It’s rare. It is a really good personality to have. I also have schizo affective disorder. People tell me that I have it good. Some say that they would like my job too. I love my friends.
There aren't doctors like this around anymore. This is quite eye opening. Amazing what Universities teach these days. I was taught it was organic, too.
What a great film! I'm so glad I found your channel last week. I've been going through videos of yours ever since. In the late 70's there were pilgrims doing profound and meaningful work in psychoanalysis. It was so disheartening what big pHARMa has been doing to that work. I'm thrilled you are documenting that this is not lost and it will still be an option for healing.
Thank you so much for making/posting this movie. As a schizoaffective this has given me more hope to heal...
Do you watch " Living well with schizophrenia?" It is a CZcams channel. Very good imo!
And learn to fly again
And learn to live so free
And when we hear the voices sing
The book of love will open up
And let us in
So take these broken wings
wow, its so important that this documentary exists
How refreshing and inspirational these people are. I am a counsellor currently helping a friend which clozapine was killing. I believe that he will recover as since coming off clozapine, and being on other antipsychotics he has realized he is gay and does not have to feel shame and guilt. It will be a long road but this is life :)
There are 4 types of this paraphilia. 1. shizo- homosexuality- earlies phases of Mahlers stages, before separation individuation, 2. preoedipal type 1- difficulty holding ego strenght, thus prone to frustration and feeling empty, and having week sense of selfhood and self esteem, caused by problem with mother in rapprochment phase, combined with bad emotionally crippled dad, 3. preoedipal type 2- problem originated also with mother, severe narcissistic and borderline features, needs to cannibalized other mans masculinity as a narcissistic mirror for his depleted sense of Self, 4. oedipal- not really a perversion, only homosexual behaviour.
Offcourse this is all known, but not politically correct anymore. In rapprochement subphase of separation individuation a male child aquires a sense of both individuality and primordial sense of gender, realizing somehow, I am more like dad, and not like mom. If this important phase is interferred by possesive, seductive, intrusive mother and a weak and emotionally abdicating father, things get messy, as the child becomes gender nonconforming. This fact hightens its idea that it is different from other same sex peers in the period from 8-12 yrs. Intense masculinity inferiority complex accompanied with self pity causes by the end homosexual condition, meaning: They are so masculine, and I am not, poor me and so on.
Whilst interesting! the comments do not fit for my friend. They both sound absolute from medical models of how to manage a human.
I agree that the medication has terrible side effects, but wouldn't you not think that he would have reduced libido regarding sex with any sex?
Anyway he is happier then ever with his same sex partner and has come off further medication and continues to amaze me with his strength to endure through what I imagine is living with a nightmare.
Please be careful/mindful when putting people with any conditions into boxes as it is seldom useful for anyone except the psychiatrist.
How is he doing today? Does he still take medications?
Duje Stančić where can i read more on this? Thx
People who say they have schizophrenia and are functioning on no meds and are just controlling it. I would doubt a diagnosis of schizophrenia. I went undiagnosed for years and could not function, hold a job. I was full of anxiety from the voices and my life was in shambles. Now that I am on meds and counseling I am holding down a full time job and college. I do agree that some docs over prescribe, I have experienced this myself.
Child abuse is the cause of what is called "mental illness". Stefan Molyneux is correct when he talks about how most social and personal problems could be thwarted before they ever started by simply treating children well during their formative years
I think its one the best movies done on mental disorders.
yes,agreed absolutely.It needs much wider viewing.
I have watched this Movie multiple times, and shared it with many others.
so skillfully made Daniel. Great Thanks! Whether you have a family member who has been diagnosed "so called Schizophrenic", (how i now refer to this diagnosis, never without the "so called" prefix, ever since this Movie opened my eyes) If you are dealing with or considering this diagnosis yourself, or are just in the "human condition" and like most, harbor secret fears of "being crazy" and thus have straight-jacketed your normal uniqueness and vitality into dull lifeless "cultural conformity...this is an important,"Medicine Movie" to watch for almost all of us...
Deepest Gratitude to all who shared, especially Joanne Greenberg and Catherine Penney.
'FINALLY got to watch this!!! What a GREAT documentary! Thank you SO much Daniel! 'Looking forward to watching your other ones. 'So glad I made the decision to go off MY meds over 30 years ago.
Beautiful documentary. I was linked to your channel by a friend for the self-help section, but noticed you were a documentary maker and wanted some inspiration as I too am hoping to make a documentary in the future. I'm so glad I clicked this documentary.... it was brilliant. Incidentally I am a doctor and the highlighted issue with medication is inline with what I have felt to be true for some time now... chemically lobotomising people for their mental health issues is not the solution.... and its great to hear studies and other professionals aligning with that. But mostly, I loved the journey you told and the beauty and hope you portrayed. Thank you!
1:13:33 Thank you for making this film. What a tremendous view and I’m so happy this is on CZcams where people can just watch it, gratis. I started it getting progressively mad, and by the end here I am having my faith in humanity wholly restored. Thank you.
I would love to see more content like this. Though I was never schizophrenic, I did suffer a breakodwn and its taken me more than a year to get over. Now I'm med free, because I knew it was time.
A great documentary of hope and alternative thinking. Thank you for sharing it. I hope it reaches a lot of people.
This is so beautiful. A few times in my life I’ve encountered people in these psychotic waking life and I always found them so interesting. I felt a sense of understanding but I didn’t know why. This shows me that these people are no different from me or you, the only difference is their trauma was so difficult that they hid deep down for so long and so well that - it couldn’t keep it down and it came out in the form of psychosis. I feel when u can’t grief I’m your dreams it become your waking life. Deeply fascinated. I never believed any diagnosis is hopeless ❤
yes, it is cureable. Salvation will not be found in a magic molecule, it will be found in loving effort.Thanks again Daniel.
Whoever you are. I like you because of what you wrote. Thank you for the love. Florida survivor.
Wow ❤️ what an amazing documentary of hope and deep healing against all odds! Thankyou so much for making it and educating us all about how wrong the view and treatment of this disorder often is. Very inspiring❤️❤️❤️
Watched this video again-
Sorry my previous comments were somewhat crass,but..
The worst part of mental illness is how it shows the haughtiness of “ normal “ people…. It’s almost as if you can see the person conveying “ they are crazy- not me-THEM”
Like… throw away the trash--
But where is “away”?
You can really get a sense of the underlying human ego of a “normal “ when someone is afflicted with a disorder that renders them “abnormal “
In reality, the afflicted person is a hero - these people possess a level of strength that is incredible.
A so- called “ normal “ person would fall to pieces if they had to endure it for a minute-
The afflicted endure it for a lifetime and deserve the highest respect.
All people need love respect understanding care patience and TRUST!!!!
schizophrenia is caused by an inability to distinguish an internal critic from external cynics. the best treatment is NLP. CBT or DBT after doctors butcher them into oblivion. the hospitalization for most schizophrenics leaves them feeling abandoned by who ever hospitalizes them. what destroys people more than their initial illness is a bad hospitalization. persons that have been there dont want to go back. ive seen people breakdown from the thought of going to the hospital quicker than their schizophrenia was breaking them down before the mention of going back. most families are creating an environment or oppression with medication. bad hospitalizations will make you forget your entire personality. people in the schizophrenics life may be oppressing personality entirely. attempting to shove the person into suppression/submission is the double bind theory.
Great documentary, wish there was more content out there like this that was more publicized. I'd hope it'd become more normal for people to have a stronger belief in people and recovery, rather than having fear around the illness, and thinking there is no hope. I feel there doesn't have to be so much fear around the illness, and that recovery is possible. It's upsetting that some people still aren't very educated and therefore do not help or treat the illness properly. That makes me upset.
when she opened her eyes... i cannot imagine how beautiful that was
Yes. That may be my favorite moment in the film. Just wonderful!!!
@@dmackler58 have you ever made any attempt to appear on a podcast or to speak with anyone who could spread this message? I believe this documentary has the power to change all mental health treatment for the better and im shocked it isnt more popular or widely shared. There’s multiple layers of value to be found here.
I recently have moved forward from years of suffering. Never on medication. Didn’t trust mainstream psychology. Always took responsibility for myself to improve my health and i made drastic improvements while self documenting my progress and feelings and what worked and what didn’t. I found your channel recently and decided to poke around at how others have healed their traumas. I think you’ve struck gold with what you made here and the information as it was presented should be mainstream
Love is always the answer and the opposite of love isn’t hate it’s fear. That’s what i see so beautifully displayed here
I wish I could like this a thousand times. So valuable. Thank you.
I think it is the outline of the story for many people who have not had the diagnosis of schizophrenia nor the companionship, if I can use that word, of an open human contact to accompany the emergence. It is a symptom of the social world that some people have no one, ever, from the beginning, of human company, of acceptance, honesty, trust or fairness. I think so many live essentially alone all throughout life. Not extreme enough to garner serious attention and 'different' enough to garantee that all of life will be on the outside looking in or hiding.
I thought this was going to be some New Agey film at first about how a raw fruit diet will fix everything but was positively surprised! I'm glad I gave it a chance, now I'll tell people about this and hopefully more and more people will view schizofrenia differently.
I was like those people in the street that they interviewed, how sad that vulnerable people aren't cared for better with proven evidence as basis. It really goes to show how the world generally just want to get rid of anyone in pain...
DANIEL THIS WAS A BEAUTIFUL AND ENCOURAGING DOCUMENTARY. You did an awesome job here. Blessings to you Daniel. 5/26/23
Thank you so much for this extra-ordinary and honest film. It is so good to see Courtney Harding's long term research highlighted and the WHO research and that the thing those who recovered had in common was that they had been supported to come off their medication. It is the 21st century and we need radical action so that we as people can be supported to make helpful choices, to understand our trauma and to take back control over our life direction toward our recovery. This film will offer hope to so many and it has the potential to change our attitudes to human achievement. We all are recovering from something. when we invest in in things that help us feel good, we suddenly find we are just one thought away from feeling at one with our lives.
It's just heartbreaking that half of these people think:
"Insane"
"Psychopath"
"Disturbed"
Just so sad.. I struggle with this and I am told all the time I'm insane, and I'm a kid.
a lot of people do nt experience problems. I used to feel i was not ill mentally. ii was always interested in psychology. but when you actually get a problem. You realize, how stupid people are, and how crap psychological treatment and understanding is. All they do is medicate. they do not think of people as personalities with thoughts, more biological systems that can be manipulated with chemicals.
Angela Please don’t take it to heart. I have found most people are clueless and lack empathy and understanding. You’re none of these things, you are special and beautiful and god made you the way you are for a reason. Don’t lose hope seek to understand yourself and your past. Have compassion love and respect for yourself even if others don’t. Leave those behind you who hurt you and don’t respect you.You have developed adaptations in order to survive.
Really they’re projecting their ideas of themselves on you. You are strong, but they think they would be a psychopath and disturbed if they were faced with this reality. Not many people can go through what we have and manage to NOT think we are less than a decent human being. To me, it all makes sense why people with this diagnosis or others similar to it act the way they do. We’re normal everyday people... and any decent human being would be terrified if they were tricked by their senses to believe things that are not true or are not happening. Being terrified and feeling alone and the center of everything will make a person lose their sense of privacy. If people lost their sense of privacy, schizophrenia wouldn’t be a taboo. It would be the “norm”
Besides someone being religious, our senses are all we have to believe in since birth. I also think people lack the empathy and knowledge on these things so they appear and are insensitive to it.
Don’t let this get you down, you’ve got too much on your plate as it is. Stay strong and continue to persevere. 💚
Your videos are enthralling as well as healing. Great work
Enthralling and healing - I love your description.
@@adimeter thank you 😊
@@breh9243 You are welcome.
When the people on the streets are saying “chemical imbalance” most of them are either shaking their heads “no” or have a look of confusion as they’re saying it. It’s almost as if they don’t even believe what they’ve been told
Thanks for sharing this video. There is so much I want to learn about my diagnosis. I'm so glad to know people can recover and live life free, well and happy. It certainly gives me hope for the future.