Transform office Laptop into a gaming with TH3P4G3
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- Today we'll test TH3P4G3 - eGPU from AliExpress,
Turn my office laptop into gaming with an RTX 4090.
Show the perfect scenario for using eGPU and some benchmarks.
In case you wanna get the same eGPU:
eGPU - s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DBq...
Case for it - s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DmH...
* This is an affiliate link, which means that if you buy items from this link, I get a percentage of that. Thanks :)
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
00:21 Unboxing
00:48 Connection
01:36 About laptop
02:17 eGPU Requirements
02:43 Laptop monitor vs external
03:00 Use eGPU Wisely
03:27 What it feels like to get a eGPU
04:14 Laptop problems
04:45 Conclusion
_ - Věda a technologie
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Wow thanks! Deal :)
agreed
Yeah agreed
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that core i5 have never ever dreamed to be pair with a rtx 4090
It's like you are doing porn , not watching it
im gonna pair an intel arc a750 to my intel i5 1035G1,
@@harjotjuve you might be joking but Arc performs really bad as eGPU because it relies on resizable BAR
Man, that music at 3:29 reminds me of the stickman videos people used to watch back in those days! Good content
Oh man I loved these type of videos so much!
I swear to god
Thanks GOD at least someone who did it so perfectly understandable and simple.
Definitely a nice option for those who have laptops with soldered gpus in them
Your video is of very good quality! And i was already looking to buy myself this AliExpress eGPU, so your video arrived at the right time! Keep going
Hey! That's nice to hear, thanks :)
Is there like a trade off with this? I have the a PSU as well as an old 1080Ti, but I haven't found a tutorial for my laptop yet and I don't wanna dabble in untested waters.
Thanks for this, I have a 1050ti lying around and was thinking of using it as an eGPU but all I could find was either an m.2 version ( I don't have an extra one) or really expensive enclosures for thunderbolt method. This is exactly what I needed.
using eGPU doesnt utilize the 100% performance of the gpu
@@Akira14496 No one said it does. You know that much but don’t know how to read….interesting.
@@teckniec2brother destroyed him 🙏
I love the fact the this egpu can fit a big fat graphics card like the 4090 🙌👍 definitely ordering this ASAP
It is awesome. I have an intel 8th gen 2 in 1 which is ultralight and portable and a Razer core at home with my GPU, of course the performance is less than with a proper desktop pc but the performance increment from the stock intel HD graphics is incredible, I play at 1440p and have everything I need with this set up
what gpu r u using?
@@SkyeReim I was using a rtx 3060
any office laptop:
Any office laptop with Egpu: "doom music plays"
Awesome experiment. Excellent production quality. Keep going 💪
underrated channel needs more attention!
Nice video, fun to see how far modern egpu's have gotten compared to the old school jank of modding custom wiring from internal connectors and still seeing at best ~60% of your gpu's capability due to severe bandwidth constraints. Personally would be curious what else one could use an external pcie connection for aside from gpu's.
Thanks!
Yeah, the eGPU is not yet for high-end gaming PCs, but can be pretty good for mid-range
Don't wanna be the "actually, ..." geek here, but currently the most high performance and least bottlenecking way to connect an eGPU is via a 4x PCIe 4.0 M.2 SSD slot. It used to be quite janky and inconvenient but recently people started using an interesting server port called OcuLink to make it much more convenient and almost OEM like. Of course TB5 will be at least the same performance if not better but it is not out yet and even more time will pass after it comes out and we start seeing laptops and eGPU cases with it. Still, even after TB5, OcuLink will be the cheaper option as no licensing is involved there to make cables, eGPU enclosures and laptops that have it more expensive. GPD have created the first consumer ready laptop/handheld and eGPU that support OcuLink so let's hope we see more OEMs hop on the train. I already used the second M.2 port on my Thinkbook Yoga 14s gen2 to add a side mounted OcuLink, but it would be nice if we start seeing thin and sleek ultrabooks and 2 in 1s include OcuLink out of the box. For example a Dell XPS 2in1 with OcuLink is my dream laptop right now. If by any chance I got you interested in OcuLink you can check out mine and other 64gb/s bandwidth builds on egpu .io . Also The Phawx made a video about OcuLink on his channel comparing it to TB4.
asus do this with their rog egpu, which connects to their rog laptops via PCIE. far greater bandwidth and performance
@@Blank-bq3wi yeah but that is not only expensive but also proprietary, unlike TB/USB and OcuLink
@@BalkanSlavinteresting
Awesome content! External SSD with games is a cool idea, I imagine those who use Linux on their laptops could put an entire Windows install on there
Thanks man! Did you mean entire OS on external SSD? Not sure that it's gonna work, but sounds interesting
@@trysometech52 Yeah, you can then launch that OS directly or mount it as VM, BlandManStudios YT channel has vids about it, don't remember the details but I think he puts an entire OS on a separate SSD for performance reasons
@@trysometech52 it works for me - MacMini 2018 and external SSD with Windows10 for games. Ie. "Bootcamp" on external drive. When I attach external SSD and restart Mac, Windows will start. Thanks for this video, presented solutions looks much better that my R43SG (unfortunately with same limitations).
@@petrtvarog273 hahahaha !! you'll be the man killing mac monopoly
@@trysometech52
Ohh ! sure you can, but "might" face some storage reading latency may be !
Let me tell you mine one ! My dell G5 gaming laptop went in coma last month. So I pulled its HDD off from its body, bought a Type C-HDD caddy, attached the HDD into it & connected it to 2nd laptop (Same ThinkPad with Ryzen 3 5300U 12GB RAM) in its Thunderbolt port & it is working fine ! Also thanks to "Win 10 adaptive adjustment in drivers"(This is what I call it, don't know the official name) which detected the pre-installed windows from previous system (Dell G5 Intel i5 8300H 16GB RAM NVIDIA GTX 1050) & installed the new drivers of AMD & other manufacturers.
Reason of latency in reading storage:- 1. Not Clean-installed windows, 2. HDD is connected to Docking station & which is further connected to Laptop's thunderbolt (A long path ), 3. My HDD have bad sectors in a partition though I have Unallocated it so that HDD header never read it & keeps the HDD running ..
So in such bad conditions if I can run things then why not on SSD ?
PS - commenting from same system.😁
Great solution, not limited by metal case walls, only the connection bottleneck.... I guess with this card it will make more sense to wait for thunderbol5 and equip oneself with compatible computer and docking station.
Your videos are of the highest quality man, good luck out there! you will go far
I appreciate that!
Thunderbolt 5 era will improve performance for eGPU because bandwidth will get around PCIe 3.0X8. By the way, the old school that Connected eGPU with M.2 PCIe 4.0x4 is interesting too.
Old school is not convenient :D
So i'll better wait for TB5
Thunderbolt 3 - Good enough
Thunderbolt 4 - Great
Thunderbolt 5 - Fantastic
Thunderbolt 6 - Desktop level performance
That's ganna be some *explosive* power delivery
LOL :D
No worries, that PSU was refunded
Looking so forward into using this with the Legion Go. Thanks for the video!
I would consider this if I was running something a bit newer than an i5 6300HQ. I'm not even sure if there's any ultrabook CPU out there at the moment that could beat out an i7 5930K which is what I have in my main PC.
I might just have to get one of these eGPU docks to try anyways, since they really aren't that expensive, especially compared to the other options on the market. Looking at you Razer....
Good CPUs on ultrabooks exist, for example i7 1280P with 14cores \ 20 threads, up to 4.8 GHz. I'm just not sure how it will behave under load in games
@@trysometech52 I'd imagine cooling a CPU like that would be a hard task.
@@whitebeartigtig actually it's power efficient and can keep good temps :)
Wich egpu would you recommend considering budget?
CPU overheating, throttling, stuttering, and slow data transfer speeds using Thunderbolt 3 are among the least of its issues. eGPUs simply aren't worth the trouble.
What are the other problems that are even worse?
I am using Aliexpress eGPU with a 6700XT for 1 year, and I am glad I did not follow advisers such as you ... super happy with it.
It depends on what you want.
If you want a light and portable laptop, that you can plug in when you get home and play on, it's your only option.
A desktop PC requires a setup in a room - a desk, monitor, peripherals etc. And while you could try a HTPC for couch gaming, the UI of many games doesn't scale on TVs properly, so become unplayable.
An eGPU or gaming laptop is the only option for couch gaming in many games and gaming laptops can't have their GPUs upgraded and are more expensive to run (and buy).
I just bought an ultrabook for £600 with a beautiful OLED screen. I'll only play PC games on my sofa, not at a desk. I can buy an eGPU case for £150 and an RTX 4070 for £570 (new), putting my total cost at £1320. For £1300, you're getting an RTX 4060 laptop which runs hotter, louder and is less portable. And in two years, when I want to replace my £600 laptop with one several years newer with more RAM and a better CPU (and sell my old one for a couple of hundred £), I'll still have a laptop with a powerful RTX 4070 eGPU.
eGPU is slightly more expensive initial setup, for more upgradability and flexibility in the short and long-run.
@@chryokohow can I find laptops with that thunderbolt 3 plug?
@@Cheeseguy738 Just get any used Intel Thinkpad newer than 2018 or something, it would most likely have them
Wow.... this is what I'm looking for. No bs... straight to the point. Thx serr.... you have new followers
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Thanks for the info!!! I've got a gaming laptop and was thinking of doing that. I just might do it 💪😎
the good thing about the TH3P4G3 compared to other thunderbolt enclosure is its transfer speed is a bit higher 24gbps vs 22gbps (razer, gigabyte egpus)
why is it only 22gbps instead of 32gbps is because intel thunderbolt controllers ensure the 10gbps for usb3.1
So a budget gaming laptop for good CPU and good cooling with thunderbolt port and high build quiality is meta for gaming while staying mobile! Asus Tuf Dash or Zephyrus will cool the nice gaming CPU and will still provide amazing build quality and portability.
Dash or Zephyrus already have pretty decent GPUs
@@cdromuser1 At the moment maybe, but after few years it can serve as an upgrade, which will increase the hardware potential of laptop.
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This might be the best video ever made
What do you think guys, can this replace desktop PC for you?
It won't replace an entire Desktop, but this is a good start! I remember Austin Evans doing a video similar to this and it worked very well for him...could just be his laptop though. czcams.com/video/18tqlbid0M4/video.html
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I believe getting a desktop is more flexible. Also, what game were you playing with the people on the motorcycles? Keep up the good work!
No because of the huge bottleneck and im pretty sure if you pay for everything including the pc and stuff, it would be much cheaper to build a desktop
@Joshh Well yeah, i wish i had a better laptop to test that. Maybe one day i'll do that
Game called "Days Gone"
@@skymoov i think it can work for middle-range PC, with better CPU on laptop and external GPU like 3070 it should work without any bottleneck :)
i guess if the laptop has a beast cpu cooler and lots of ram.
Awesome video! I’ve also seen users remove the Wi-Fi card slot with a cable to connect the gfx card that way and connect directly to the motherboard that way.
Thanks for the show!
I think it's for those laptops without a thunderbolt port, you can use the pcie slot instead
@@klvntmi yea that’s it. I need to grab one of those and do some testing on my laptop’s cpu with a gpu vs what I’m upgrading to.
@@imAgentR exactly what I wanna do. I've got an i5 11th gen laptop with an Intel iris xe. Wanna get the casing and probably a 2070 super to test and see if I can maximize my 2k monitor
@@klvntmi that sounds awesome! I hope it goes awesome!
Dood that Ken's Theme montage rocked!!
Love the high quality content man!
Here before 1k subs
Unless it was fixed recently - you will get even better results when you disable iGPU. All the stutter went away, I was using laptop with i7-8565U in foldable laptop.
Amazing! I was holding off on having to shell out 300$+ on the Razer Core X, this looks like a great cheaper option
Yeah, I had exactly the same situation and then decided to save some money. But keep in mind that Razer has PSU and case for that price
@@trysometech52 yea that's true, after all you aren't saving that much after buying a decent PSU.
@@joeysherrett you can save $265 just by using ADT-LINK M.2 PCIe eGPU. It's average around $35 and can deliver way faster speed than USB4 or Thunderbolt 4
Great video mate!! Keep going!!
This channel is gonna go far so I sub before the dream is completed.
The CZcams recommendation. Amazing video. I’m impressed of the information and video quality. 👍
Thanks man! Glad you liked it!
Quality videos man🔥 hoping to see u with 100k subscribers before this year end💯
Thanks, man! There is so much to improve for 100k, but I am working on it
Thank you for the video! Nice content!!!
Awesome content! Keep it up!
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Thank you for the video this is exactly what I was looking for. I subscribed !
Awesome, thank you!
Good content. Keep up the good work 🔥
awesome production
nice video, enough information, no stalling. i loved it!
Hey! Thanks a ton for the video! I plan on buying this and couldn't find many inexpensive options for thunderbolt 3, but this looks like it'll work perfectly! I plan on pairing an old gtx 970 (only extra GPU I have) with a Thinkpad t480s ^^
You can also connect via oculink by getting an adapter connecting to nvme slot. It’s much faster than usb.
the only video when someone asked for a sub i actually did thank you for the vid i wanted
Excellent video! Gained my sub
I’m almost finished doing an entire build like this but with a Radeon RX 6650 XT. I bought everything used aside from the TH3P4G2 and the total for all the components was like $500 less than a gaming laptop. Im still waiting for the laptop to be delivered but Im hopeful it runs well enough to game.
Do you think rtx io and direct storage would benefit from this? Typically the assets from ssd or game would go to cpu and then to ram. With rtx io and directstorage, those assets would go directly to gpu from storage and that's where the decompression happens and so on and thus improving performance getting rid of limited bandwidth. Would that also mean you can connect your monitors directly to external gpu in the future?
I don't know for sure, but i guess that bandwidth still will be limited. But RTX IO will decrease CPU load, which is great for the laptops.
But I didn't get question about monitors and eGPU. In my video monitors are connected directly to the GPU, which is best option. What benefits you can get if you'll connect monitor to eGPU board?
Thanks for this literally i have old my rtx 4080 and my dad office laptop lets go and also remember when u will be famous
You have very high quality videos man. I wonder why you have lower than 1k Subs. You deserve more my guy. Also remember me when you are famous😉
You gained a sub buddy 😉
Great video. Amazing job.
Great take on this.
I have a zenbook flip (12500H cpu) that I pair with a 3070 egpu for same reasons (I want the portability of the laptop when not gaming)..
Very informative and technical useful vid, both thumbs up, you got my subscription!! 😎
Awesome, thank you!
great video. i wanted something like this about 10 years ago when all i had was a laptop with crummy igpu. not including the 4090, how much did it cost?
Glad you liked it!
eGPU coast around 190 euros (I have a link to it in the description, you can check the price in your country)
And PSU is around 70 euros
Great content amazing quality u need more subscriber's ❤😊
Man, this thing just came to Indonesia. Glad you reviewed it 😁
Sounds great!
Only 242 you deserve way more. remember me when youre famous
Very helpful video. I have subscribed your channel.
Very useful video, informative
Can you make a video showing how to choose a portable laptop for egpu and work. ? Thank you
man you are a savior ❤❤❤
Could you do this with something like a SFF optiplex that doesn't have thunderbolt? How would you go about that?
Check the Framework laptop. You can plug in either a graphics card or cooler module. 😉
Have you tried not using an external monitor and directly getting video from the laptop's display? Hybrid GPU worked for me without having to tweak anything (rx6600 on rog g531gt), so I'm wondering if it would automatically use optimus in your case with a 4090.
Sure, here it works directly from the laptop's display 2:42
Remember me when you get famous! Love this vid!
Have you considered using a laptop cooler when pushing your laptop hard? Perhaps that would help bring down temperature and reduce throttling.
Yeah, of course, that will improve performance. No doubt.
Anyway, this laptop goes to my parents, and it was more like an experiment for me. Now I see how I can replace my desktop PC in the near future :)
You are frying your cpu with this setup and only 4 cores ?
Thank you for the vid ❤️
wow amazing video🔥
1.51k subscribers, really !? This channel is so underrated . Remember me when you are famous.
1.19k man u getting there remember me too
Incredible videos!
Asus y a pensé, pour avoir testé c'est pas mal même si les premiers x13 ont quelques défauts. De plus le gpu externe entraîne des problèmes si on souhaite jouer directement sur l'écran du pc ou faire du multiscreen, c'est bien d'avoir bcp expérimenté pour se faire un avis... Par contre en terme de style j'ai eu aucun regret merci Asus de l'innovation
I love to watch these hardware tinkering.
Thank for the video.
Hi! I have an HP ZBook workstation with an Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6820HQ CPU @ 2.70GHz and 64GB RAM. I want to connect to an NVIDIA Quadro P4000 8GB GDDR5. Is it possible with this model adapter, or which adapter model do you recommend?
Thanks for the great video.
Thanks for video!
New subscriber. Good video man srysly
Thanks and welcome!
Could you explain to me how I can do this but instead of laptop. Itx pc. I think i cant just connect the external psu to my gpu because it wont run
Good Work Man, more vidoes like this man, try out new new affordable options
Thanks! working on it
I am the 300 sub nice video also
yeey 🎉
Thanks!
Oh😮 thank you give me the idea 😊😊
my laptop doesnt have usb c port but if i buy a usb 3 to usb 4 will it work?
What power supply did u use? How many watts?
i also want to integrate a amd gpu to my amd integrated laptop how do i?need to buy new connector??
What was the problem you were having with the blue screen? Can you tell us how to avoid it?
Oh, that was totally my mistake. i tried to bundle the wires and accidentally disconnected the 8-pin connector, which is responsible for charging. I plugged it into my laptop without noticing -_-
Egpus have so much unexploited potential
can u explain more detail about your problem when accidentally disconnected the cpu power? how about if the electricity shutdown suddenly? What will happen?
Pause video at 0:54 and you'll see CPU connection from PSU to the eGPU. It wasn't connected all the way in, totally my mistake
BRO just saw that u only u got 277 sub like i was watching this video damn the quality of content was damn better then 200k sub user hats off to u and no worries bro u will be good and i am ur new subscriber hahaha :)
Glad to hear that, thanks man
And welcome!
im usually out, hated an alienware cause they become heavy after everyday holding them in a back pack, also cant aford having sitting at home another pc... i love the idea
May ask a question or some? I am really considering to retire my pc and use my laptop as my daily driver inclucing gaming.
1. You connect your thinkpad to the external gpu through thunderbolt and connect the monitor to the external GPU, right?
2. the keyboard and mouse are connected to your thinkpad, right or to the external gpu? so Keyboard and mouse can be used with the laptop and the screen is closed.
3. Do you set anything to make thinkpad not go to sleep when you close the screen? cause mine does everytime I close the screen.
Thanks.
Sure :)
1 - right
2 - you can connect it in a both ways
3 - that's just a Windows settings. Edit Plan Settings -> Change advanced power settings
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It makes some sense if you have a lot of laptops most with Thunderbolt ports.. otherwise i would suggest a laptop with 4080/4090 or a desktop with the gpu.. you just take the gpu out from the desktop
There is a lot ppl with old laptops that has TB port. They can buy eGPU + 1080 or something. It will be a cheap upgrade. Not everyone got money for new expensive laptops
This is an awesome video.
Noice content bro 👍 keep it up ...
Thanks 🔥
I keep hoping that someone at Aliexpress will build more, affordable, Mobile eGPU devices. I'd be thrilled with a 6800XT as egpu, or even a 5700xt