Why It’s Almost Impossible to Make a 7-10 Split in Bowling | WIRED
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- The dreaded 7-10 split is by many accounts the toughest shot in bowling. WIRED's Robbie Gonzalez went to the U.S. Bowling Congress to meet a pro bowler, an engineer, and a robot named Earl, to find out why it's actually Almost Impossible.
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Why It’s Almost Impossible to Make a 7-10 Split in Bowling | WIRED - Sport
my parents split when I was between 7 & 10
Nice one dude. Funny
Nice spare
wow, dude did you really just say that? lol
underrated comment 💀💀
XD i love this
It isn’t that hard. I hit those kinds of splits all the time.
lmao
Lmfao
These types of comments are always the best 😂
Lmfao 😂😂
Bro i slapped u up in boxing
When I was a kid I managed to get a gutter ball with the lane’s bumper setting on. I’m kind of a big deal in bowling.
big deal? that's actually Bill O'Neill's nickname, one of the best players :D
Nice.
God bless you and your family 🙏🏾
im ur 500th like btw
who tf asked broski
One HUGE thing about converting the 7-10 you failed to mention is the walls beside the pins. If you are bowling on Lane 1 the wall left of the 7 pin is a solid wall. The wall right of the 10 pin is hallow because of the ball return. This plays a HUGE roll in converting the 7-10. You should ALWAYS shoot at whatever pin is closest to the solid wall. Or in other words if you leave the split on the left lane, you want to hit the right side of the 7 pin. Hitting it as hard as possible into the solid wall causing a much stronger ricochet. I grew up working in a bowling alley, and noticed this myself when working on the pin decks. I have converted the 7-10 twice, both in league play but once on the left lane hitting the 7 pin first and once on the right lane hitting the 10 pin first. Ironically the first time I converted the 7-10 it was on lane 15 just like it is shown in this video at 3:15 notice he hits the 7 pin just right of center and into the solid wall. I can guarantee you if that exact shot was replicated on lane 16 he would not have converted it.
Agreed. I've picked up a 7-10 twice; once when my ball fell in the gutter at a high rate and hit the pin on the left side to kick it over and second hitting on the right side of the 7 kicking it into the left wall and ricocheting it back over to the 10. This video definitely doesn't cover all the angles; funny how it mentioned pool but didn't test any of those principles.
@@hyperjason if it went in the gutter before it hit the pin, it only counts as a zero.
What about a stick of Dynamite yah jack asses??? 😤
I came to point that out. My strategy has always been to clip the inside of the 7 pin. No idea why that strategy wasn’t discussed
You saved me a lot of writing😂
When a professional has only done it 3 times in his life and you have all these people in the comments saying that they've done it. Tells you how much luck has to do with it.
It tells me they're full o'shit.
@@TheBatugan77 Possible, but given a big enough audience there are bound to be a lot of people that have done the improbable.
@@TheBatugan77 nope hes 100% right, ive hit 2 7-10's and they were completel luck, had nothing to do with my skill, just got lucky with the pin bounce/deflection, my brother, who doesnt really bowl that regularly or well has hit one too, again, out of complete luck of the pin bounce.
Literally played bowling 4 or 5 times in my life, 7-10 split was one of my first spares.
I did once by extreme luck never made it again came close a few times but so far that’s my one and only
When I’ve gone bowling, I never hit 7-10 split but I always gone through the middle, calling it a “field goal”
Exactly! It's even worth one more point than just picking up the spare.
Lol same
Me too
In professional bowling in my league I say field goal lmao
We used to do that all the time in league including referee gesture
He keeps saying that the Greek Church can only be converted by hitting the two pins. But at 9:21 we see an example of a spare converted after hitting the three pins first.
I picked one of these up when I was really young. Maybe like 7 or 8 yrs old. I had NO idea what I had done, but everyone was freaking out. I threw at the 10 pin and my ball went into the gutter just before the pin. The curvature of the gutter caused my ball to roll back toward the 10 pin just enough to bump it and make it wobble. It fell, and rolled across the lane, taking out the 7 pin. I got awards, patches and whatever else they gave for league play and I had no comprehension that what I'd done was nearly impossible until years later. I was just having fun, bowling with friends on Saturday mornings, lol! Truly luck.
lies
@@genos1969 Touch grass.
@@shellshockedbros4458 You could say the same argument with you. You are wasting your time just to tell someone who is probably saying the truth to touch grass you are just as bad as him which what he did is not that bad but if you’re gonna make it a big deal how about you touch some grass.
@@kaingussky7596 how is typing two words wasting time
That's nice but the thing is that if it hits the gutter first before it hits any pin, it's not a legal strike / spare
It's always possible for Matt on Wii Sports
xD
Well he's a extreme pro
Matt >>>>>> everybody
I made it once in will sports😂😂
Only if Matt decides that he doesn't want to get a strike
I saw a 16 year old girl make the 7-10 during league play in pocatello idaho, tough guy lanes, late 80's. She had a sub 100 average, totally luck shot, but the most magical thing I've seen while bowling
Nice story! Both the girl who made the shot and you will always remember that moment.
Now that's a story to come out of Pocatello.
That’s where we play now, lol!
What's a 7 10. Anybody
@@deanfitzgerald8063 that’s the name of the pins.
Roy Munson hit it back in ‘96 at the championships in Reno. He had been out of the game for 20 years and had this epic come back going head to head with the “Muhammad Ali of bowling” ‘Ernie McCraken’. Unfortunately Munson came up short in the epic match but he did hit the 7 10 split during competition. He did all this with a rubber hand over a hook mind you. He’s definitely the 🐐
Big Ern. Classic
Unfortunately they were wrong in saying it was the hardest spare
As a high school bowler, I hit a 7-10 split once during regionals. My teammate freaked out when it happened. I can agree that it is difficult and the ball would have to hit one of the pins hard enough. Just enough to fly and hit the other.
Worked an alley for 3 years. Bowled on leagues that entire time. I've seen a 7-10 cover twice. One of which, was the first one the gentleman had ever gotten in almost 40 years of bowling
I was about 7 and did it. I bowled a lot as a kid. No one cared except my grandfather.
I got it twice in my life. My family was proud, and the family next to me looked really impressed. Pure luck man, pure luck.
I've picked it up more times than I can count, of course I was chucking it at about 26mph, usually shooting for the 7 pin (right hander)
ive got one 7-10 conversion, and they really are just pure luck. like obv there are better and worse ways to hit the pin, but when its going to happen is very random.
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There's something appropriate about the probability for a 7/10 split being seven-tenths of percent. :-)
J Cortese: The odds of making the 4, 6 is much slimmer. Jimmy Keeth was living proof of that when he bowled on tour. No one on tour threw harder at a spare than Jimmy Keeth.
J Cortese this has 666 likes
yes
@@swayturtle6793 Not anymore. :-D
I haven’t watched yet, but I’m going to say the 7/10 requires just as much luck as it does skill.
I've been bowling since I was four, and I somehow made this spare when I was seven. The ten pin bounced right off the back of lane (black part) and came back to hit the seven pin. I've never been able to do it again and it's been 10 years.
bowling since four...?
@@samusaran13372 yeah, what's confusing about that?
I got one totally by accident when I was with my best friend at his Birthday party; I was around 13/14 years old. First time ten pin bowling, I just chucked the ball without a thought about what was going to happen, but the thing I remember more than making this shot was the people in the lane next to ours that were all wearing those bowling gloves and decked out in their kit just stopped and all four of them started clapping. I had no idea why until years later lol
For anyone in the U.K it was at Bitterne Bowl in Southampton.
if the ball went in the gutter and popped out of the gutter and hit pins.. it's still considered a gutter. as cool as it might of been that you hit the 7 -10 split. technically in your case this wouldnt count in a game.. the score would be erased and a gutter would show.
@@firebird68cougar69 it’s still impressive though
I hate to be that guy but I did it once. The guy working at the alley said he'd never seen anyone do it before. One of the most proud moments of my life
man I would hate to be that guy too
Yup i did it once too. My high score is 241 not great but not bad
Oi! I'll just stick with some of the 5-7 and 5-10 splits I've converted
@@TheLobsterBurger i did the split once. it was 100% luck. my record is like 140 really bad.
and fun fact once i meet someone who said the ball "bite" him
My high is 130 and never hit a 7-10 but I’m only 12 and it is something on my bucket list
"Nobody on earth can hit a 7-10 hit"
Me who plays WiiSports: my intelligence is almost frightening
hahaha, same for me with xbox kinect sports
This is golden
@@Korne127 I see we had the same childhood
So was i the only one who would aim close to the gutters to use the pin the hit the other pin on the other side?
@@adamayawaya2592 I did that too
Robbie, great video. I'm in my early 70's. My Dad was a huge bowler and I was able to go to the lanes back in the 1950's to watch him bowl in leagues. I did set pins in Buffalo, NY (Grant Street Lanes - above Molin Taylor Motor Parts) in the early 60's but was clueless as to how the machines operated after the mid 60's. Really enjoyed your presentation. I have seen the 7-10 picked up as well as 'box-cars' split. Bowlers today are insane! Also, never knew 'Earl' existed but very cool indeed! TY!
I just bowled and pretty often hit it into the gutter so it bounced out and hit the 7 or 10 (or other) pins, maybe this technique is more consistant for hitting both pins by getting the right angle?
The problem with that method is that it's illegal in sanctioned play. By PBA/USBC rules, the second the ball hits the gutter, it's out of play. Any pins hit after it goes in the gutter are not to be counted.
@@SuperMetalhead96 the rules of bowling should be PHYSICS
@@dylansylvester4719 Not necessarily. Like any other sport, you need defined out of bounds zones. Once a ball is out of bounds, it's a dead ball. Same with football, basketball, tennis, literally any other sport.
@@SuperMetalhead96 nonsense
@@dylansylvester4719 not really. Rugby bans forward passing but it is physically possible.
Dude that’s so easy did it in wii sports so many times
Harry li I don't get it I always got strikes in wifi sports those where my golden years
lol don’t wanna brag but I’ve done this a few times irl and I’m 11
@@placeholder1915 did you really tho lol
john defrancis yea 3 4 or 5 times
MistakenBacon no u
There is a strat
I've been working for months trying to figure it out and I did
I call it using 2 balls at once
Oh yeah, it’s big brain time
I have one that actually works with one bowling ball. So here it is: You have to throw the ball at just the right angle upwards so it hits the ceiling panels causing one to fall off and bounce onto the pins.
movie info no that glitch has been patched mine hasnt
LMAO
@@digi3218 Throw the ball in the gutter with sideways spin, so that it jumps at the end, and it converts. :)
Seems like you have to do one of two things to have any chance, especially with the newer curtains:
1) Instead of aiming for a glancing blow on the outside where you'll land in the gutter, you should aim for a glancing blow on the inside of either pin instead, which is even more achievable since you can use spin to curve it in, the idea being to bounce the pin hard into the wall on the side and causing it to ricochet back, all in order to avoid the pin hitting the curtain and losing its kinetic energy there.
2) Hit the pin straight on with a fast throw, the goal being to achieve a double bounce as mentioned in passing in the video, where the pin hits the ball a second time after colliding with the curtain, regaining kinetic energy and bouncing unpredictably in one of any number of directions.
One time I literally was with my family and I got a 7-10 split and I just went for one of them. Apparently I hit the back end and it skyrocketed and knocked the other pin down. That was in a clutch round where I was losing 30 points down and won.
WIRED: it is impossible, not even a robot can do it predictably!
Mark Rober: But a human can.
Lmao
Ayyyy
You referring to that bowling ball Rober made that will turn when you lean? LMFAO!
Vxxl heck yeh! That so good!
Todd Rogers can
So you’re telling me that when I did this on accident it was nearly impossible?
Ben4TheWin yeah same happened to me when i was 11 haha
I've done it once on accident as well. Don't think I will ever do it again.
yes, i play professional bowling now for 3,5 years and i never got it once.
lol word, i knew it was hard but didn't realize how hard it actually was XD
r/thathappened ya’ll
There was a dude who chucked a 10lb ball at 24mph next to me two nights ago, which caused the 7 pin to just launch it to the wall then ricochet to the other end of the lane into the 10 pin
I've only been bowling a couple dozen times. I hit this shot once and didn't realize how insane that is. I missed the 10 pin wide right completely, but the ball bounced back out of the gutter enough to cut the 10 pin straight across the lane into the 7
dead ball as soon as it hits gutter
@bubblesburst1220 interesting I honestly did not know that hahaha. But I'll tell you what, the computers they had at the alley couldn't tell the difference, so I got the spare though 😜
Then u didn't actually convert it it doesn't count if it bounced out of gutter
The Greek Church vs 7-10 pick up statistics makes for a very good cautionary tale about statistical data interpretation.
You're right! Data means nothing without proper context and interpretation
yeah, because good bowlers hardly ever leave that many pins up...
@@Sir_Leelord Not true whatsoever. Each one is easily left with a shot that isn't terrible. Pocket 7-10 where the ball either lacks energy or has too much angle isn't rare, nor is a Greek Church where the ball is about one or so boards higher on entry.
Greek church is the hardest split to make
Daniel Gonzalez exactly. Church has lower conversion rate because many times they don’t try and make it. 7-10 is attempted ever time, because they’re just trying to hit 1 and get lucky.
Someone at WIRED is just salty that they lost a bowling game
300+likes and not a comment
Highlights hi
@@ghazishmeissem4785 hi
Bruh
@@ruddyreporter8862 That just means people like the comment but have nothing to say.
this was an interesting experiment and I now know of the greek church, its really fascinating that even a robot cannot factor in luck on hitting virtually one of the most difficult shots of the 7/10 split. great video
actually you can calculate anything you want, just you need really good representation and simulation of the environment
"Nobody is able to hit a 7-10 hit"
Meanwhile: Mark Rober go side to side
Ive made it only twice in 22 yrs. Started bowling at 7yrs old in team League in So. Fla. First 300 at 14yrs old.then joined Jr. PBA @15.5-19yrs old . Then only 1 yr on PBA & had to drop out. Had a total of 6 300 games since 14yrs old. My 2 '7/10s' were only in W/end practicing but great memories.
When I was like 8 my older cousin hit a picture perfect 7-10 split. The pin he hit flew perfectly sideways into the other. All the adults went a little nuts and us kids just sat there like "yeah that was pretty cool I guess"
Physics says that's not possible. For the ball to hit the 10 pin on the side so that it slide directly across the lane, the ball would have to come out of the gutter. If the ball goes in the gutter, it is a dead ball and any pin count is negated.
@@brownro214 guy that always plays bowling like its a pro match coming in here and trying to ruin someone saying they hit it because physics says its not possible. But remember physics has been proven wrong before. Technically there is always a chance even if it is 1 in several quintillion etc.
@@TheWa1rusGod no lol
@@brownro214 I don't know what materials the sides are made of, but if he hit the inside of the pin in a way that it bounced off of the side to actually fly perfectly sideways, I guess it's possible
In order for a 7-10 split to be possible, the ball needs to hit the first pin with enough force and accuracy that it bounces off the back curtain and into the other pin. As of now, all other instances regarding a perfect 7-10 split have been made using this method. In order for the pin to fly sideways in the way you described, it would need to be hit nearly perfectly on its side. Theoretically, if the bowling lane were bigger, this would be possible. But, for the pin to be hit perfectly on its side, the bowling ball would be in the gutter. So no, it’s not possible.
This is one of the first ACCURATE bowling videos I’ve seen made by a (non bowling) multimedia company. Very well done
And by wired no less. I’m surprised as well
900rpm, triple most pros. Most pros are at 400-500. I’d say double.
Chevster wrong comment my guy
@@chevster6290 thats what i was thinking
Parker DeKubber Bowling they always do a good job looking into hobbies, they did really good with the cubing one.
They forgot another method getting the 7 10 split, which im surprised they didnt mention. You can throw the ball hard into the gutter and hope it bounces back up into the side of a pin, which would slide it straight sideways into the other.
i think they didnt mention that because its technically illegal in bowling
@@Dave-kl8wp Yea that would make sense then. A pro bowler would obviously know about that lol
@@pumpkin9916 I've actually had a conversion revoked in a tournament for this exact reason. Heartbreaking, lemme tell you.
You could also just eat the remaining pins
However, that sort of thing doesn’t count during tournaments
This was so much more in depth than I expected
i find it funny that i done a 7-10 split on wii sports when i was like 8 by accident
GalaxyGrape294 I KNOW SAME
i call BS
I was 4 fight me
Same😂
I did that ones in real life by accident
why its almost impossible to jump off a cliff and survive
This is unbelievabley stupid
Demon Cat so is your response
@@user-qe6zm6wj3e how
Demon Cat jokes and sarcasm aren’t your forté huh
Louis use a parachute, you didn’t say I couldn’t
Thank you for clarifying that case of the Greek Church. It would be rarer cause that formation is less common which is why it came up less on records
In difficulty 7-10 takes it.
No
It’s the conversion percentage for every time it appeared, so out of every frame that ever had a Greek church it was only converters 0.3% of the time
If you ever played Candlepin, Spread Eagle and "Hi Lo Jack" would rank as one of the hardest.
8:15 The bowler converting the Greek Church still continues to aim for the 3, and not the 2. He gets both count and picks up the spare. Where the robot and drawings aim for the 2.
When i was a kid my bowling coach spoke of another way to pick up a 7-10, he said you could hit the inside edge of either pin to send it outword toward the hard wall instead of the curtain and you had more of a chance to bounce the pin back across to hit the other pin. I never could do it, but i have seen him do it.
eric fortson I did something similar. I curved the ball into the gutter right before the pins. It hit the wall and bounced back into the lane hitting the 7 pin. The pin flew across hitting the 10 pin. I was honestly trying to do what your instructor said, but I put a little too much spin on the ball.
eric fortson you went to a bowling coach ?? I didn’t even know that existed
It doesn't surprise me that at least one person in the world got unusually good at them. Millions of people in decades.
At least one grandpa with a chip on his shoulder and some time to think and practice could do it.
It takes not only luck. It takes skill, and obsession.
I think people discount that some of us are smarter than others. Some of us have better blood pressure. Some of us really are more dedicated even only looking at leaguers and pros.
All of these factors can't just be washed away by watching videos.
By obsession i mean getting it in your muscles. Getting 300 is supposed to be impossiblish bc of fatigue.
The same things that turn 275, 285 scores into 300 would help with the 7-10.
What you ate matters for a 300. That's technically randomness of your body chemistry staying equally alert but you can do things about it.
And they said what, .o75%?
7 hundredths of a hundredth.
Or in other words in 10,000 7-10s, 1 is going down at least.
100 frames is 10 games.
A league/pro bowler should be able to get 20 games a week.
50 weeks a year.
1000.
10 years like that and you can do it.
40 years like that and if you tried to game the math you ought to have gotten it at least 4 times.
My dad made a 7-10 split in a league once and that’s how he did it - he didn’t use the back wall or “curtain” at all.
@@coveyhough2524 and that is why bowling is stupid
He's not saying it's impossible to make, he's saying it's impossible to consistently make.
he should change the title then
@@hopperj6 almost impossible
@@hopperj6 it says almost pal
"It's hard to argue with his assessment"
@@hopperj6 you should learn to read then
I made a 7-10 once in my 25 years of league bowling. Pure luck.
Same been bowling for almost 30 years, picked it 3 times... covered it twice out of league and once in league. Got me a patch for it. No skill was involved. 😂
With a Greek Church, you have a clear choice: go for count, by knocking down the three, or go for the spare. Except in very special circumstances, a bowler is going to want to go for the count. As a result, the spare is converted very rarely. With a 7-10 split, you might as well TRY to convert; you are no worse off if you miss.
"Jim tried converting the greek church." Well, I imagine that didnt go well. The greeks are very solid in their religion.
John Taylor r/dadjokes
nah but fr that was good 😂
Boss witticism
@@SlashoftheGreatnessOfficial r/ihavereddit
Orthodox even.
“Not even a robot can engineer luck”
What a great line.
a good one can. we just don't have robots that can dynamically analyze everything instantaneously but scientific advancement is pretty much engineered luck. like the rube goldberg machines
@@Matty80822 angular trajectory.
luck doesn't exist though? im confused
@@bluefate2159 not the luck your thinking of
@@Packarddd chance doesn't exist everything is calculated
I think this is the first time in my life that a physics class has helped me athletically. But studying all those elastic and inelastic collisions in dynamics I can definitely feel just how difficult the angles required to pull this off would be, especially considering the weight of a bowling ball. Bowling balls are very heavy to help knock down all the pins in the first throw but that makes this shot near impossible
I have been bowling all of my life and I have only seen the 7-10 split picked up once and that was on the ABC tv pro bowlers tour.
"I only built the arm"
"Coz that's all you needed right"
nice tbbt reference
@@lingy69
:)
Big Bang
Winnie the Poo is out of the honey tree!
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I am certainly not touching you honey tree. :)
5:46 me introducing my boyfriend to my family
underrated
Oliver Prendergast
Was gonna say that
I cackled
i clicked the timestamp not knowing what to expect, but im glad i did
I got the joke in two different ways lmfaooooo L I K E if u know what I mean
In tournament bowling-as a right-handed bowler-I would convert the 7-10 split by purposely throwing a gutterball to the left, releasing the ball without spin above the beginning of the right gutter and directing the ball to bounce hard against the side wall, ricochet off that and then bump the seven pin. You practice this on a throw-away game by just striking only this seven pin for ten frames. It's difficult to say whether this would qualify at the national level but I assure you that it was good enough for league play.
Very well produced content.
I like this guy a lot, he makes the videos interesting. He gets enthusiastic and goes all in on the topics.
He's a real Weiner though, if you see his other videos he throws a baseball like a shot put.
guy crawls inside bowling machinery
my mind: mission impossible 1 elevator scene
Hasta lasagna, don't get any on ya.
😂😂😂😂😂 you ain't right!
I hit a 7-10 split before it felt more liberating than any strike ever
I hit it once with a house ball at Splitsville in Channelside (Tampa, FL) I was 14 I think. I had just told my Dad to take notes too. It’s a good feeling hitting that split because you never know if you’ll ever hit it again.
9:13 lmao “tried converting the Greek church”
Converting a whole church is an impossible feat, because they are set in their religious ways and no one in the congregation would go for it. I just saw your comment and realized the alternative meaning of that statement that has nothing to do with bowling. I didn't catch that hearing him saying it in the video.
outtake: "and immediately got denounced by Pericles"
Omg, the best comment ever!
Bowling. A sport for malakas.
Heathen! OFF with his heaD!
I remember once bowling on a lane with an uneven right-hand gutter. If you bowled hard enough, the ball would hop up just enough at the right spot to knock the 10 pin across the lane. That’s the only time I ever got that split.
Yeah one of my local bowling alleys have uneven gutters, so much that if you get a gutter ball, you have about a 50% chance of it hopping up and hitting at least 1 pin
@@nologicneeded1476 According to the rules of bowling, once the ball goes in the gutter, it is a dead ball. If the ball bounces out of the gutter, any pins knocked down don't count.
@@brownro214 I know, but it would happen when I'm just bowling casually, and I was just saying that the gutter lane at that place is pretty uneven in certain lanes.
Was the surface of the gutter not flush near the end, or did the surrounding framework at the end of the lane protrude into the gutter slightly?
@@E1craZ4life it wasn’t flush.
Professional bowler: 7 10 is so hard
Me who never played bowling: I bet i can do it
I rarely get left with a 7-10 split but when it happens what I've started trying to do, and I need to actually just practice this more, is hook the ball in almost behind the 7 pin to kick it either directly into the side wall or a little forward and hope it has enough energy to come back across the deck and nail the 10. This method seems a little more reliable, if you can do it, than going straight at it and trying to get the pin to bounce off the curtain or something else in the pit. You also will have the sweep coming down in front of the deck so that is another thing that can help the 7 (or 10 for a southpaw) ricochet across the deck.
Of course hooking a ball BEHIND the 7 or 10 pin would be a feat in and of itself. Happy bowling!
With the combined power the of the Wii Remote and the Wii Motion Plus, this shot is almost impossible to miss.
I average around 220 in league and have been bowling for around ten years, now. I've made the 7-10 split once in my life, and that was in October of 2016. I've left the split probably around 150 times and I've only converted it once.
I have never picked it up before. Congrats on your conversion!!!!
Are any of you willing to buy me a bowling ball?
I've been bowling in leagues for 35 years and I still have never picked it up.
The PBA analysis found 7-10 is picked up 1 in 145 times, so your anecdote is pretty consistent with that!
Like getting holes in one in gold
what is not say here is the type of pin used , you would be less likely making the 7-10 spare with the Brunswick pins because
those have no hollow space inside witch some other brand have thus making the pins more likely to rebound
I've made the 7/10 split twice. Once was done with the bounce they show. The other was by tapping the right pin (10 pin) on the outside just as the ball was heading toward the gutter. It shot across the lane and took out the left pin (7 pin). But yes, most times I just get one or the other.
Ya I did the same. I sent that ball so fast. It went into the gutter bounced back and hit the pin at the side and it.just flew into the other one.
I've made it exactly once in about 20 years. I've almost made it many times, sending the 10 over towards the 7. For me, the idea is to hit the 10 on the LEFT side with as much speed as possible, so that the 10 hits the right sidewall, then the ball that's in the pit. The 10 will squirt over to the left after hitting the ball pretty consistently. Chances are still low, but getting the 10 to go left increases your chances greatly, as opposed to hitting the curtain which kills the speed off (which is what it is designed to do.)
yeah even in the footage thats more or less what happened. i don't know why they kept harping on about the back curtain. bouncing off the sidewall as long as you don't get the pin caught in the gutter has much more chance of success. the pin needs to bounce and get caught up in spinning like a top to maximise the chances of collecting the 7. so it helps if your rev rate can knock the pin to the right and add a little bit of a lift to clear the gutters lip so the pin makes it back onto the lane. i'm still not calling that easy. such a glancing blow to the side of a pin wont inject much energy but it's much more likely than using the backstop designed to kill momentum
How did it feel when you finally got it?
@@pippincovington1348 I smacked it out so hard, I almost couldn't throw the fill in the 10th LOLOL... and we needed it to win!
I've never made it since I bowl a 300 every game :p
@@MrOsmodeus I think the point is that banking off the curtain ensures that you pick up at least one pin where putting enough spin on the bowl and/or angling it to impact the side of the 7 or 10 pin carries a much higher risk of missing the pin entirely. That'd be the same as trying to get the ball to cut so hard that it goes into the gutter with enough speed to pop back out and catch a pin on its outer edge and likely a bunch of other crazy throws.
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I don't have any fancy story of getting or seeing some miraculous shot in bowling but I can confidently say when I play with the gutter barrier's up, I almost never hit them but when I play with the gutter barriers down the ball almost always falls into the gutter. Bowling is very much in the mind as it is in the technique.
I managed to get it several times of over the years I played, my trick is to throw the ball in a way that it starts to spin really late, you hold the ball backwards and give it back spin, thumb down ring and middle up, this, with the right force, has it spin, in my case, to the left when its about 5/6ths the way to the pins, I won't call it reliable, or even a good method, but I found it easier to throw this and try to hit the inside then throw the ball straight at the pin
Wait, they say the greek church is made less often because people go for the 3 pins instead of the 2 for count yet you need to go for the 2 to get the split BUT the pro bowler literally makes the spare in this video by aiming at the 3 pins.
7-10 still harder.
There are 2 versions of the greek church for a right handed player. 2:3 and 3:2. If you get 2:3, you can go for count and spare in the same shot. If you get 3:2, you have to choose
It's case of being possible on either side, but the 2 pins is considered more likely to collect the whole spare. I'm no expert, so I can't explain the details, but that's the basics.
Easier to pick it up aiming for the 3 pins... aim to the outside edge of the front pin and the front pin deflects off the inside back pin over to the 2 set. I have about a 25% conversion rate on that split using this strat.
You can convert it both ways, going for the 2 or the 3. But physics-wise, it's higher chance of converting by going for the 2. Right-handed, we'd normally leave it 2 on the left, 3 on the right. The way to convert it by going for the 2 pins is basically going for the 4-9, but slightly thinner (think going between a 4-9 and 4-10), and hoping for some nice pin action. But aiming for the 3 on the right side, you don't have that back 8 pin to bounce things off, so you have to slide the 6 between the 4 and the 7, so your angle is even thinner. Basically the angles. Going for the 2 side, your angle needed to slide the pin across is greater than going for the 3 side.
2-8-10 is the hardest of em all though
It's actually really impressive that Wes has made it three times.
ive done it twice
Osku palermaa: but wait there's more
I bowl twice a decade and did it once. I assumed professional bowler could do it all the time. First time I realized that was lucky.
I’ve went bowling twice and I saw a guy do it some how
I took out a 6,7,10 split with a full sliding 6, but never a 7-10. But then I never tried on a tricked up lane where the lane mechanic had reversed the rear cushion's function by setting it forward.
I made a 6-7-10 when I was 8 in a league I was in doing the exact same thing. At least with that one you can send the 6 into the 7.
With the 7-10, you just close your eyes and hope for the best.
Why did I watch this the last time I bowled was like 15 years ago lmao
Cause you’re gacked out on WIRED
Last time I went bowling was on my brother's 8th birthday almost 6 years ago
Probably been about 21 years for me. Now I'm thinking about becoming a pro bowler.
I nevwe bowling lmao
I like bowling but I don't like to do it. I'm left handed so the holes in the balls screw up my thumb since the holes are drilled for right handers. Being left handed it makes you move your thumb over your ring finger instead of your middle finger, and when the bowling ball comes off of your hand a few times it really makes your thumb start to hurt.
Analyzing half a million frames completely messed up the man's eyes
I was looking in the comments for this...
Bad Perception same 🤣
You are the Very Reason the Internet is Undefeated. I thank you for the Laugh
Hahahaha I know right, I thought the same thing.
Another factor is the circumference of the gutter; get enough momentum of the ball going back and forth and time it right, the ball can go up the lip of the gutter with enough speed to send one pin into the other.
It's how I've seen a 7-10 split ever be accomplished in real life
him crawling under the pin setter gives me SUCH BAD ANXIETY that it's just gonna somehow turn on and crush him
I have an interest of around 0.01% in Bowling
CZcams : That's enough for me
go watch Oprah.
@@elliottmoore4835 What?
@@cheeseboi588 duh
@Sand Hanitizer I still don’t get it
@@elliottmoore4835 Duh what?
I tried to convert the Greek Church several years ago, but I ended up becoming Orthodox instead.
solid
bro im Orthodox and I just wanted to let you know I laughed because of this, good day sir
Me: *slow clap*
I made the 7 10 SPLIT about 25yrs ago at Yorktown Lanes. The 7pin bounced off the back wall, landed in the gutter, then slid over to the right and knocked down the 10pin. I received a patch for this conversion. My bowling average was 162.
Skull Snaps - “It’s a New Day” one of the most heavily sampled beats of all time 👍
Running a TAS to try to crack the 7-10.
Bot: Not possible, sorry
Roses are red
The sky is clear
I don’t even bowl
So why am I here?
Try it at least once in your mortal life!
Enjoyed this vid learned a lot, makes me want to try hitting a 7 10 split now
I picked one of these up during league night, got a nice little patch for it.
2am at night
- Why it's impossible to make a 7-10 split?
- I dunno youtube, show me
Exactly.
its 1:27 am rn
Watching at 2am...
2:35 rn
You mean 2am in the afternoon
bowling really is the most underrated way to spend a week night
Bowling alleys are disappearing in town too
@@romiarkan450 And they're really expensive in countries where bowling is not a common thing.
The problem with Bowling is its insanely expensive to run, and as such, insanely expensive to play.
You could always play with your balls instead... it's a lot cheaper. xD
It's really the shoes that are what make the price go up. You can find a pair for like 30$ on Amazon. Go bowling 6 times and they pay for themselves.
Use a light ball like a 6.
Only put 2 finger tips in. Stand all the way to the left and throw it all the way cross lane to the right while lofting it high in the air with as much spin as possible so that the spin kicks in right as you hit the 10. Aim for the left side of the pin so the spin is going with the bounce off the 10 and hit the 7 with the ball.
I always thought going for the 7-10 the best way was to hit the _inner_ edge of the pin and attempt to have it ricochet off the wall and back.
You know something’s hard when a robot can’t do it.
I reckon the robot can. They just didn't try all of the possible parameters
@@callumdavies1093 only if the other factors are controlled. They aren't though, thus the robot can't reliably do a 7 - 10....but for real, I'm sure they could have picked up at least one if they stayed at tweaking the values a while longer.
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Or pooping.
"I've played a few frames with a professional bowler"
- Cuts to shot with Professional NFL Linebacker
I can’t be the only one who doesn’t get this joke
Yea I don’t get it
Don't get it
@@michaelziegler9337 Don't worry. I get it as well.
@@michaelziegler9337 cause he's a big dude, I guess
You have to start on the far side so the ball curves out across the middle and then back and into the back side of the pin so the pin gets knocked sideways and slightly forward. If you go straight at it it's a lot harder because the pin always goes backwards.
I always considered the 2-8-10 (3-9-7 for lefties) to be the toughest to convert. You cant convert it like a normal 2-10 split because the 9 pin gets left behind. A lefty can convert the 2-8-10 by hooking into the 2-8 to send the 2 into the 10 and carry the 8, but a righty hooks the wrong way. Plus its one that rarely gets attempted bc going for the 2-8 is certainly better than risking 1 or 0 pins trying to pick it up.
7:36 Blink 100 times if they forced you to say that.
Its a rare condition that doesn’t allow you to control eye movements and in some people other random movements, i have it in my eyes, its common in people with ADHD
@@wowperson1708 the more you know
Ty for doing something with that profile picture, uurgh Ur rare, almost impossible in fact
@@CL0WN yes
Thats mad diserspect bro he can't control it
nah, all you need is a _"lucky bounce"_
*if you know you know lol*
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@@nocapbrudda6232
Lol 😃
Is that a wii bowling reference?
These nuts in yo faith
So funny story, one of my first times bowling I hit a 7-10 split by simply trying to emulate what they do in the movies. Hit the corner and hope it bounces across the way, and sure enough, it worked. Little did I know what I did back then lol. I think only the couple in the next lane saw while the people in my group were busy talking.
Imagine lying
Robbie Gonzalez is for sure an up and comping journalist. This was very well done and yes, the Greek Church is a really hard shot in bowling. 7-10? Hammer it down at one of them.
"It's impossible to hit the 7 10 split."
Me: *Hold my Wii remote*
then how are you going to play?
Safety strap!
SpeedySnake I know I said the same thing
I like this wired guy, he's rly dedicated, I've seen him a few times. If you're seeing this, thanks man!
"No one can pick up a 7-10 split that easily!"
Pin sweep: "You think so?"
:D
One question: Why isn't the "Three Stooges Split" (5, 7, 10 pins remaining) mentioned at all? It's one I have gotten before in real life bowling, but it's not even given a mention in this video.
I’m guessing it’d be a little easier to hit considering the 5 is in the middle, so with the right trajectory, the pin could bounce one way with the ball toward the other, getting all three
Me: As long as i get a strike i'm fine,
Lol 8m happy whe. I get 1 point
{Fhonix} your name is just perfect 😂
@@funnylittlecharacter692 what do you mean?