THE TRUTH ABOUT CLUTCHLESS SHIFTING ON A DIRT BIKE
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- čas přidán 26. 01. 2019
- Clutchless shifting on a dirt bike? Shifting gears without a clutch? Here's the truth about clutchless shifting on a dirt bike. After a dirt bike video on changing gears I uploaded a while ago started to gain some traction and some serious outrage about transmission damage etc, I decided to answer some of the questions and go over some points. Don't take this video too seriously. I'm just having some fun with it and I think the video needed a response.
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If people argue with you in the comments then you’re doing something right on CZcams. It’s part of the game.
your not wrong. lol
I never do it without clutch some times the down shifts without clutch but its rare
I’m subbed to u u might remember me u reply to me almost every time
Is it easy to ride a 140cc without clutch that has a racing cdi and other stuff as i dont wanna use the clutch just yet
Brah, this is literally me trying to explain dirtbikes to my parents
Same. But me trying to explain it to my mom. She dont know sheeit.
Lmaooo😂
Abhi Kosuri same
Lol I can understand if soo
Haha great video!😂 I fully agree with you. Some people that don’t even know how a dirtbike gear box works are talking as if they know whats good or bad for it
lmao exactly what im thinking
Facts bro lol
I drive a 18 wheeler and I only use clutch on complete stop and the start off that’s it
@@jay2times140 that’s not good
@@Blocanbentlyyahu yes it is you float the gears in em don’t need to use the clutch every time you shift it’ll burn the clutch
bro im 100% with you. I rarely use the clutch to change gears, when im just cruising i might without knowing but most commonly when riding hard or racing ill just bang gears while on full throttle without using the clutch, with 127 hours of doing that on a 450 it still has no signs of wear. ITS LITERALLY IN THE MANUAL THAT THE CLUTCH IT USED TO "MODULATE THE POWER" not change gear. Amazing video as always man
I had fun making this. Like I say, ride how you wanna ride. I like to use no clutch and that's my preference but when people keep saying it will destroy my transmission.....enough is enough haha. I guess the debate will never end
Had a feeling this video was bound to pop up haha. I was rather fed up with replying to people who wanted to argue why clutchless shifting is bad on a bike when they couldn’t provide any logical conclusion as to why it is necessary to use the clutch while shifting. But you made a great point in this video. Ride your own bike how you want to, shift how you want to. I tried to explain to people that if you don’t use the clutch while shifting, it’s not going to cause any harm. But some people will still argue until they are blue in the face for no other reason than to feel the satisfaction that they are somehow superior in their self-proclaimed knowledge. Can’t please everyone I suppose.
Yup. I saw all the comments. Quite funny to read. Just remember, you can’t argue with stupid 😂
Very good video, admiting to what you actually were wrong about is what I liked the most. People so rarely do that these days and if you can't admit to being wrong sometimes you will never be right. Subscribed.
I actually taught myself how to ride a motorcycle using this method at 14 years old because it was hard for me to reach the clutch, so I just happened to try up shifting clutchless and it worked fine and nothing bad ever happened to the few different bikes I rode that way. 😉
When I saw that video I felt that it has to be damaging your transmission to shift without clutch. Same thing as alot of other people were thinking. Instead of commenting though I did some research and it turns out I was wrong.
I think the reason is alot of people like me (Who doesnt know exactly how a transmission works) have kind of the same theory about what's going on in the transmission when you're pulling the clutch or changing gears. But the point is we obviously doesnt know how it works and I don't get why some people are trying to argue about something they don't understand until they've done atleast some research.
Someone in the comments said that they take the engine apart and shift the gear into place by hand to shift so they don't damage the gearbox
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Only use the clutch in three scenarios.
1. Shifting into gear from a dead stop.
2. The starting gate.
3. Clutching out of corners.
I agree with you on this, if done properly, clutchless shifting is a breeze and wont damage anything, using clutch excessively wears plates, springs and generates alot of unwanted heat.
I was the first like and viewer I love watching your videos keep up with it 👍
My last bike was a ltz250. Auto clutch. Was really helpful in training my ears to listen to the rpms to learn when to shift in order to get maximum power output. Now I ride a xr200r and I can shift gears smoothly all the way up back down to first. Really only use clutch for specific things like starting, stoping, wheelies and such
Great video . Very entertaining. Almost spit my morning coffee out a few times.
Super response video! Have fun!
Good work.You are totally right.You understand the transmission and how it works.The Clutch is a good helper to control the power especially on two strokes to keep the revs high...but not necessiary for shifting.Thumbs up Bro
I’ve been riding since I was 7 or 8 and I was taught by my dad who was a mechanic to not use clutch while shifting and and downshifting. I’m 44 now and after numerous bikes included dirt bikes and Harley’s I have never had a transmission go bad. I think those people don’t know any better but think they know everything! Lol
Was he a motorcycle mechanic?
I agree with you 100% about changing gears, no one should argue with you about how they ride!!!
I love this video :) so good man, enjoying your content
😂 your exasperated expressions and freeze frame edits are absolute gold. ride on! and keep shifting without the clutch as you clearly know when it makes sense to do it and how to do it well. peace.
and btw you can definitely shift a car’s manual transmission without the clutch; it’s not a routine/preferred action of course and takes some practice using the same exact principles of unloading transmission and finessing rpm’s.
Hey dude I found your vid about shifting really useful. And it is a lot smoother if u do it correctly
Clutch plates are strong 💪
I only ride my friend's bike on occasion, I use the clutch because I'm inexperienced and I don't want to damage his bike by mistake
Haha had a good laugh at this. Love your vids, keep them coming
Found the two videos interesting.. only time I switched without the clutch was accidental. However, my clutch work was pretty rapid yet smooth.
Just come across this! Funny video! Love your other vids, just got myself a wr450f so taking some inspiration from you 👍🍻
Glad u made this mate sort out the people who dont know what there on bout
Great video, been seeing this debate pop up a lot recently as well. Just FYI, MOST cars utilize a transmission with a very different shifting mechanism in the form of a synchromesh. Bikes use a sequential dogbox transmission. Dogbox transmissions are literally designed so you don't always have to use the clutch. It's design is bred from racing and you can 100% shift without the clutch if desired. Cars with a synchromesh (dumbing it down here guys) rely on friction materials to keep the next gears close to speed. If clutchless shifting is done properly, yeah you might not damage the transmission, BUT it's certainly not guaranteed. Very few cars have a dogbox type trans, mostly specialty built race cars. You can easily chew up gears, damage synchros, and bend/break shift forks in a non-dogbox synchro car. There's 100% a proper way to shift clutchless on bikes. 25+years riding, building, racing cars and bikes, former 17yrs Senior Master Ford tech/Roush Certified/Ford GT certified/8rys former Toyota certified/2yrs former Kawi certified.
Best line: "Just ride and have fun" Got off my a$$ and rode my 82 KZ750 for the first time in about a year. Much better than wearing out my couch watching videos. Shifted with and without clutch, just like I've been doing on street and dirt bikes since 84. Great videos.
Loved this video and keep up the good work
Was hoping you were going to discuss shifting with the kick starter. In my comment on last vid I fully explain the science of why it works. (It’s the top liked comment btw) plz make vid on this method.
@Jason Ricketts. This is by far the best way to shift. Won many races this way!
Love the video. I do and don't use clutch. It just depends on where I'm riding. I hardly use any clutch on the track and use it quite often when I'm on the trails. Video was great, I didn't even notice your fingers the first time around.
I know this video is fairly old, but I only just saw it after watching the one it's about. (I have only been subscribed for like 3 or 4 months I think) Anyways, just wanna say I loved this video. And you are my favorite vlogger XD
Thanks man. Appreciate it
Lol welcome to CZcams, you have made it big time! At least you’re getting attention, I’m still struggling to get more than 130 subs 🙄 there always a know it all no matter what, don’t take it to heart, water off a ducks back keep doing what you’re doing as it is working 👍🏻
Yeah it don't bother me that's why I tried to make light of it. The comment section is a fun thing to read haha. You will get there buddy. I had 123 subs for 3 years LOL
Haters gon hate
Love ur vids keep em coming good stuff bud!!!
I totally agree with you. I dont use clutch for past 25 years in supersport , motocross and enduro bikes. Never had a problem with transmition or never had yo replace clutch plates. Its actually benefitial less friction on clutch plates means less heat and less clutch dust floating in the engine oil. If you want to long life of your engine dont use clutch to change gears.
It’s hard to convince people but it’s true. A lot of people are stuck in the mindset that the clutch is there for changing gears but it’s not. Thanks for the comment buddy 👍
Lots of people dont have a clue how transmission and clutch works independently. But this uneducated always have most to say.
Your the best CZcamsr ever keep up the great work!
You're awesome
You’re awesome
Tbh ur dirt bike do what you want with it main thing is to have fun whatever u do on CZcams it’s gonna get some hate just ignore it and keep doing what ur doing 👍
Yeah I actually love the hate. Can;t please everyone but I had fun reading through them. funny
Nice😂 This was a great show. I thought would you please let us know your top 10 moto youtubers? Perhaps in your upcoming videos or something🤔
Nice idea 😀 you’re in my top 10 🤟
@@MidWestMX 😍😍😍
Good video man keep up the good work :)
Thanks man
Watched the first video and this one found it really helpful maybe give some cluchless up shifts today (I’m new to riding bikes lol)
Good Work man very funny, there's times when and when not to use the clutch its down to the individual rider and if they understand how to get the best from their bike. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Been riding bikes 40yrs never trashed a gearbox yet.
I agree buddy. Just ride how you feel comfortable.
Yeah man you tell them 😂 and good video btw 👍
I was doing a wheelie and I accidentally kept my hand on the accelerator and change gear with clutch does this damage your bike I want to know please
You shouldn't take this guys too serious,they just know how to talk some shit without even knowing what is it about...btw I really love your videos and your passion for the bikes,you have great contenct.Keep it up✊💨
Thanks man appreciate it
Loved both videos! Keep them coming! These clutchless videos are the BEST i have found so far. Cheers from Mexico!
I never worry to much about using the clutch. Some days I do use it some days I don't. I've had 4 different dual sports and none of them have ever had transmission problems.
Fun video. Without the hater trolls, their would not be successful youtube video/channels. Unfortunately we need them to go viral. Dont want them! but need them. Keep doing these types of videos.
The question is @Midwest.MX is out all the haters that put something on that video how many of them actually ride ignore the haters mate there trying to ride with no cluch and can't master it that's why there commenting as they are unlucky and can't do it keep riding the way ya do as we all love seeing ya videos
Hahahahaha had a laugh watching this one. 6:00 LMAO pure gold
This doesn’t have anything to do with clutches but I have been thinking about buying my first dirt bike I have been thinking about Yamaha yz 125, yz250f and Honda’s cr125 and 250f it would be my first dirt bike i have experience about 125cc 4t supermoto bikes and some atv s i have had a 50cc 4t mini bike . I am 16 years old. What are your recommendations? And i have a low budget.
Iv got a honda atc 200es. Its a 1985 in mint condition. It has high and low range gears and reverse. It hasnt even got a clutch and it still work perfectly after 33 years. Not sure if they work the same as a bike because im just getting in to dirt bikes but after that long it still work fine
Your response to Ziad 👌
Now I get this was for dirt bikes more then other bikes. With that said, most factory sportbikes are coming with quick shifters now a days, it doesn't release the clutch for you to shift. They cut the power for a millisecond once the computer senses pressure on the shift rod. Oh and they now auto blip for clutch less down shifts. Dirt vs street, the transmissions are the same style. Stopping and starting and or when ride conditions call for it are the only times you need to use the clutch lever.
Hey MidWest I love your videos keep up the good work do you have any advice on what bike I should get next that's a step ho p from a TTR 230
Try out a few and see what you like. It’s all down to what your comfortable with 🤟
Wr250f or yz250fx
Good video, patience is a virtue
Bro..... You did a gd demonstration on the previous video regarding changing gear on a mx bike i never use the clutch on down shifting and 90% of the time up shift with the throttle open and just kicking it up..... And 10% of the time power shifting with the throttle open depending on how the traction.....
Ps and yeah you was caught out on the 4 fingers on the clutch but as a regular viewer i do know that u use 2 fingers on the clutch..... Half of the people that have written negative comments arent dirtbike riders if they were they would of positively related to the video in question!!
Lol my comment was in there, I stand corrected, I actually don’t know that much about bikes(new to it) and I guess I learned something new
i just have a question does not using the cluch apply on older bikes like 2000 year models
Have raced dirtbikes for 4 years. One of my last bikes was a 2014 ktm 150xc. The bike had 400 hours on it. Did two full motor rebuilds in that time with the stock tranny still having 400hrs on it. To this day I do everything by feel. If I’m riding sand when there’s a lot of load on the bike, I’ll slightly pull in the clutch for a split second to let a bit of load off to find a gear (still with the throttle wide open). I’ve never had any transmission problems on my bikes. A a sequential gearbox. Not an H pattern😂
Personality i change up with the clutch and down the only time i don't use the clutch is down change on long hills but at the end of the day its all personal preference
I hear ya. Ride however you wish, as long as you have fun
Great job! Don't think of it as negative or positive comments, maybe think of it as feedback. Some will give you ideas for improvement some will show you how badly they are educated and why you need to keep making videos, either way lets ride.
This is how I feel when I tell my friends that I sometimes shift without the clutch 😂😂😂
Enduro A rider here on a 03cr250.
I Don’t always use the clutch to shift especially when you have arm pump. Learn to do it correctly and it will save you and your transmission.
So... should I or should I not be using a clutch while upshifting?
I got the 2019 yz250f and if you liked the 17’ don’t ride the 19’ cuz you’re going to love it. J/k I did give the crf 250r a look and it was not an easy decision. The Yamaha was cheaper so I went with the yz250f
I just wanted to know if it is ok to shift without clutch
Is it healthy for the bike to always shift without clutch
MidWest MX, i am a truck driver, and I do not use the clutch other than to stop, and go. Is it the same principle when swifting a dirt bike? Thanks for the help. Also first time rider.
Yes buddy. As long as you do it correctly and take the load off the transmission it’s fine. You can use the clutch also. However you find comfortable
😂🤣Don't let them annoy you.
Your vids are Good love to know were you ride so I can take trip and have a ride
I was just curious if you can use a dirtbike without clutch
Haters gona hate! I sent your vid to a bud of mine who i was in a debate with...vid was good and shut him up so its golden!
I'm currently building a slider (speedway bike) for my son. You don't have a traditional gear shift because when the bike is crossed up and laid down in the corners, there's no room for your foot.
The up shift is spring-loaded on a cable to a handle bar lever separateto the clutch lever. You physically can't use the clutch to shift gears with this set up.
All the people arguing with you in the comments just don't know what they're talking about dude. You tried to.teach them but they chose ignorance.
What if its a 2 stroke? Those dont have engine breaking i think.. so better with clutch?
Thanks I will remember this hopefully
As a very beginner in enduro can I ask you why my bike is stopping when I put it in the first gear? (It doesn't stop if I rev it very hard). And why does the motor seem to have no power at low revs? Thank you and sorry for my English!
That's pretty much the only reason to use the clutch. If you don't use the clutch when you shift up into first gear then it will stall. Also low power at low rpms assuming you have a smaller cc 2 stroke because they have a narrow powerband. Unless you mean like it barely moves at low rpm that might be a problem lol
I been riding dirtbikes since i was 7 years olds when i have like 11 i got a yz 125 and my uncle teach me how to shift gear with out cluch, i just get a lot more faster than i was. I agree with you and support you! some people just talk without any knowledge
I just recently got a 97 kx250 and had to change the 3rd and 4th cogs as the dogs on the 3rd gear cog had gone smooth on the edge that interlocks 4th cog I can only assume it's coz the person didn't let off the gas before shifting. Thought on this anyone ?
Your always gonna have them trolls just dust them of and keep making good vids bud.
You can shift with, or with out clutch. But how many people out there drag racing there dirt bike? To save .005 sec . I always up shift with clutch, down shift with out. When coming fast at corner I drop sometimes 2 gears down, no time for clutch. I had my 250 2stroke for long time. Down shifting with out clutch will not hurt ur gears. I think pro will shift with out it. This is same as 2stroke vs 4 stroke. 50% will say one thing and 50% other. Both ways are sounds good. Soon we will all ride electrical bike. No clutch :). So use it while u can.
I support you dude great Chanel and remember every great bridge has trolls under it 😜
I love the trolls
Comments are so funny! Great video :-)
So does this mean you don’t have to use the clutch to shift am new
Good stuff mate 👍🏻 People that actually ride or race motocross bikes will understand,people that don’t will pipe up! They should keep quiet and learn.
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It does count for 4 wheelers right?
6:17 I find that funny because my professional coach tell me to full throttle and no clutch to shift
Love your video's. I'm right there with you mate, there are idiots out there. I watched the video in question.
hey can you help me out im 25 and just getting into dirt-bikes what would you recommend 125 or 250f ? was looking at the 125 but power band looks crazy
A 125 will make you an awesome rider but hard to handle. A 250f is a lot easier and smoother for a first time rider. Easy maintenance also
@@MidWestMX thanks bro
Depends on where your riding. A yz250f is a track bike and is difficult on trails. A yz250fx is great on track and trail. And very easy to ride. Yz250fx would be my choice. Unless you plan to ride mx only.
Let me be clear. It’s not impossible on trails. Just not as easy especially for a beginner on trails. It will be a rougher ride and more prone to stalling when navigating tight areas.
Michael Charette was looking at the Ktm 250 Xcf and what’s the difference. Between yz250f and yz250fx ?
i remember being 5 years old and my dad saying "just hit it up and hit it down. These things are made for racing, you don't need the clutch unless you need to get the revs back up or do a wheelie."
My question is where are your fathers? and if they went out for smokes and never came back, who are these goobers that taught you how to ride?
stfu you are super lame
@@nerfmaster33 racist
do you have to rev then shift down
First off great come back video ! I was literally just having this same argument with a couple friends that clutchless shifting is okay if you do it correctly. This proved my point .
i found your video great if that makes u feel better 🥺
I have a yz85 and when i ride normally slow i use the clutch but when i need to be fast i change gears up with no clutch
I have a kx85 and i do the same.
I've never used the clutch after 1st gear. Never had transmission issues. I don't understand the die-hard "you must use the clutch or else destroy your bike" people. Perhaps certain bikes don't handle it as well
do you change gears 2 at a time? well up at least🤣 i will often catch myself doing this... why i don't know but is it harmful to my transmission or clutch?
I I support that you actually get out there and try, not like all these other people they just put a dislike but you actually work hard and do it and everybody makes mistakes so they can just get over there self
Flat shifting is the future 👌🏻 my current bike yzf 250 I do not shut the power off changing up I shift when the power peaks off at the top of the revs. Only some bikes are built well enough to handle the abuse. (KTM not a chance) But there is precious time and grip to be gained doing this method. Check out his last video you'll hear the seamless gear changing as I'm riding. It's a race bike and I race. Going fast is goal number 1!
You tell em Rob!
excatly right man, it doesnt work on your old ctx200 but on a modern performance bike it is just fine, thats the only way i shift at the track. Also i know you are just messing around about the ktm, a little banter is always fun when you still have to kick start your yz haha
I’m just getting into racing (uploaded my first vid last night) and info like this is essential!! Thanks
@@itzPaybacK drop over on my account and subscribe I'll be doing a video with Midwest Mx to go through the motions 👌🏻
WeRideLikeThis KTM banter will never stop. Just like people hating on the Honda 🤬😂😂
I am here LMFAO 😂😂😂 on the ridiculous comments but I will say one thing ur video actually helped me not a lie it seriously changed the way I ride is when I am goin motocross I use the 4th method which leaving the throttle wide open n using the clutch to shift
And I am extremely thankful to you man just keep up ur amazing work
N help more young riders
peace n stay safe😘😘💕💕🤗
Thanks man. At least someone appreciates it 😀 ride safe brother
this s such a great video
Man people just need to just ride lol... I keep it pinned and and pull the clutch in just enough to unload the transmission and grab the gear and let the clutch out. 2 stroke s for life! 🤙
I’ve never used the clutch to shift up or down, never had a problem.