@Mal Aquila interesting hypothetical planet your mind lives on. On planet Earth Chris Brown has songs that came out well over a year ago that are still top charting.
chris brown got a lot of shit for that and apparently was blackballed from the industry and nobody would play his new music. He just kept releasing music, being friends with popular people in music to collab with and then eventually they started promoting his music again because young girls generate lots of money.
@Mal Aquila So not being at the height of popularity = no one supports anything he does anymore. He's still relevant. It's easy to say "he's not relevant anymore" when you're the one that stopped paying attention. That's like people telling me I live under a rock because I don't think Keanu Reeves is relevant anymore. Shit, lil Dicky brought him back to the spotlight even if for a month with Freaky Friday. But hey, even rapists make bad arguments sometimes.
One time I replied to someone correcting them after they called Louis a sexual predator. They said “are you gonna defend Jeffrey Epstein now too?” It’s sad how many people value being right over the truth.
We live in strange times now. I don't talk to people at work AT ALL except necessary business- related talk. Someone was fired for sexual harassment. I heard he asked a secretary on a date.
They associate the two as the same thing because they're privileged valley girls who want their lives to appear harder than it is. Both situations share a surface level theme so they're obviously the same.
WetToesAndSandscrapedKnees tbh I think a lot of people are just very misinformed about the whole Louis situation. I’d like to think that they are just ignorant and not intentionally malicious.
Because at what point does a man look at a woman, trying to figure out if they went to high school together or not, she misunderstands it as being "undressed w/his eyes," hashtags the thing #MeToo, & ends up ruining a man's career for, literally, nothing, ya know?
@@ryanmozert So not believing in a magic man in the sky who loves you unconditionally, EXCEPT with a bunch of conditions... Not believing in the magic man in the clouds makes one "not brilliant?!!" Damn, son! That is fucking rich! 😂😆 SMFH 💯
It's unfortunate that we are now mistaking consensual kink with sexual threat. This creates a girl who cried wolf situation and is insulting to actual victims.
@@dougrogan379 That's nonsense. Tons of people date coworkers, as an adult it's the number one place you meet and get to know other people. That's like saying high school or college students shouldn't date each other.
I'm a straight guy. But if a dude starts jerking it across the room, I'm gonna laugh my ass off. As long as it doesn't touch me or sling rope in my direction, I'm almost cool with it. Male nudity is always funny, especially when it's shocking. If those two parameters are broken tho....it's assault lol. I have a buddy that used to bend over and show just his asshole to people at random. That shit was hilarious.
Boofer T. Washington except he didn’t just pull his Dick out and start jacking off. From how Sarah Silverman explained it, he asked permission first...
or rewrite the circumstances and context to fit your agenda. On this thread alone you can see people claiming CK did it to employees. The story I heard was 2 fellow comics at a comedy festival. Those aren't employees.
@@thebiowatchlist there was one woman who was working on a show with him, but I can't remember if she was a direct employee or not. I like Louis CK but I think what he did was wrong. I also don't think he should have been lumped in with the actual rapists like Cosby and Weinstein. The only reason it ruined his career is because of the timing. We were stringing predators up at the time and he got washed in with the wave.
@@laythadrian5705 were "we" stringing predators up at the time? Well then why did the woman that came out and said when she was secretary to joe biden he raped her and groped her get canceled?
@@krotchlickmeugh627 for the same reason Trump didn't get canceled despite having multiple accusations against him. But you probably demand undeniable proof for those and are willing to accept only a testimony when it comes to Biden.
Completely agree!! Rarely have I ever pissed myself laughing as when I was watching that show. Very well written and directed. Loved seeing Stanhope and Robin Williams on it too. It seems to be based off of circumstances in his own life but jazzed up for TV into a unique narrative.
@@LucasNauan the fact she complained means something was awry. Wanking in front of a lady who's not keen smacks of desperation to me. Are you upset that I insulted your hero? 😅
Louis CK needs to quit having his name brought out every time Me Too is brought out. He’s not a rapist, nor is he a child molester. Let’s be realistic as to what he did comparative to others.
@@MyPrayingmantis The small percentage of a Twitter users that attack him are just hoping to open doors for their shitty careers. Real Americans dont give two fucks about METOO!
@@MyPrayingmantis he got his knob out with young women, stripped naked, and they felt awkward, lacking power and didn't know what to do. That's wrong. He knew he was "asking" and they would find it difficult to say know because they wanted the work. He was abusing his power. Then if the women started talkingv about it then his manager would tell them to stop talking. www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.amp.html
Well it's exhibitionism which is usually nonconsentual but also pretty common, it's a common kink and you can find millions of examples of it happening on pornhub. Definitely inappropriate but it's weird that he is being so singled out on it. It hurts his case that he is a man and a powerful older man to be specific, because there is less tolerance for that, a woman would have gotten away with it and nobody would care.
@@DeclinedMercy True, and I get that women could somehow be in a position where they feel that they have to say yes, but from what we know of Louis, it seems like he would have stopped right away if they changed their mind.
It raises a question of if you're a man, particularly a man with power, are you even able to ask someone something like this or will it immediately be an abuse of power? Personally, I feel it's a bit ridiculous. The feminist community needs to come up with realistic standards that apply equally to men and women and which are fair to people who do have positions of power. There's no standard, what Polly does is fine but Paul gets ridiculed.
What about a woman's sexual kinks?? Would a Woman be permitted to ask permission? The most privilaged position is being a young, beautiful, sexy women. She can have anything with very little effort,,,, then take offence years later
I think the concern was that he was in a somewhat powerful position over the women he did this with, then it's not necessarily a purely consensual act, like if a woman consented to sex with her boss for fear of losing her job. This isn't exactly that and not saying I agree with this whole thing, but that seems to be the concern.
Not that simple. If you are in the workplace, you shouldn't have to worry about random people asking if they can jerk off in front of you. If it is someone that has a say in who gets promoted, who gets less hours, even worse. Even Louis has said he regrets ever doing it. He was doing something wrong. The point is, he has been punished much worse than others that have done worse and there seems to be no path for redemption.
If you have a random person in power that asks if they can jerk off in front of you and you say yes that's weak mindedness. There's a million things you could do to avoid that. And press charges and get him fired. If I worked in a place where some whale kept asking to fingerblast herself in front of meI would gtfo of that workplace and report her. But all you care about is the end result which is a better advantage over other people. I guess we're all vain
As someone who has 17 employees, mostly women, I can say he did something terribly wrong as a professional. I have power over my employees lives and livelihood. If I ask to do something that bothers them, they may naturally have a fear that if they reject me, they could receive negative treatment or lose their livelihood. That places a responsibility on me to not put them in those positions as a boss.
@@killinit913 yeah but that's you being wise as a boss and that's how great businesses are made but imagine that you are an employee wouldn't it be better to stand up to what's right even if the person is powerful I mean is livelihood and money that important that one would just allow themselves to be abused for it I mean there are many ways to make money and most of them don't have some creep pressuring you for sexual reasons
I saw Louis CK tonight in Reading PA for a huge show and he got a standing ovation before AND after the show. He addressed his controversy in a hilarious 10 minute bit and it was the hardest I've ever laughed at a stand up show. Louis is back everyone. Special is definitely coming.
Saw that show in Omaha and working in newsroom, I got a lot of sighs from those who knew I was going but almost half assed like they knew it had all gone too far. Got to see him again on his last one at the same club six months back and the crowd’s love for him was fucking inspiring.
@@matthewhaave3735 Right? I had a bunch of "friends" who stopped following him after the controversy. All of these lefties who ride the same wave have become devoid of being able to enjoy laughter, it's been sad to watch. Comedy is all we have left to cope through this wacky world, take that away and we have nothing but depression and loneliness.
Rembrandt van Rijn Not all feminist or woman think way you suggested. I feel and think Louis did something not so right... I also think the media punishment has been severely hardshh on him and it’s enough. I don’t like when people still talking bad and treating him bad. 🤦🏼♀️
There is an episode of Seinfeld where Jerry dirty talks with a woman he is dating. After she says something filthy to him, he says "you mean the panties you're mother laid out for you?" The woman ended up flipping out and leaving. George says "that's not offensive. It's abnormal, but it's not offensive." Kinda sums up the Louie CK situation.
tyler norton my dude, that logic is so illogical and very sexist, why do dudes NEED TO BE SO AGRESSIVELY SEXUAL, your the type that makes these situations worse between gender relations I would completely say this all you and whoever u propagate these ideas of “ofc HES gonna take his dick out” while also saying that women have their TÎTS out which YOU have no control over THAT IS THEIR CHOICE! IT IS ALSO UR CHOICE TO RESPECT SOMEONE ELSES CHOICE FOR SEXUAL ACTIVITIES
Marko Nikolic I laughed my ass off. Our phones were locked into this magnetic bag thing and you weren’t allowed to have ANYTHING on you that you could transcribe his material with. His openers were great except the one that came on right before him, that guy was like every hack late 80’s “wild man” comic you’ve ever seen. Anyways, he did like 20 minutes on the word retarded and I kid you not I was crying. He’s just so freaking smart. It’s hysterical stuff. I’m praying he does a special. He addressed his “thing” at the end and it’s pretty solid. I don’t know how people are gonna find fault with how he addresses it. It’s still Louie so it’s vulgar and so over the line but it’s solidly funny and you can see his side of it. How it’s affected him. If he’s anywhere near you I’d say run buy a ticket. I won’t ruin any bits, but he did ten minutes on what body swapping movie would be like if it were a drama about a son and his mom.......lol. Gold. Just filthy and hysterical.
@@tobysgamingworld1550 In a weird way I think this was good for him because he was starting to take this filmic genius shit way too seriously. I didn't find his shows that great, but standup, at least since 2000, is what this guy was born to do.
@@tobysgamingworld1550 i saw that bit on CZcams recently about the mother and son. Jesus lmao all I gotta say haha I found a good amount of his special on CZcams, can't afford tickets or even the $7 lol but it was just like old Louie man. He hasn't missed a step.
Louie C.K. needs to come back. One of the best comedians of all time, at the top of his game, AND on the verge of becoming even bigger since he had gotten a lot of praise for his serious acting roles.
Don't forget Alyssa Milano, who ruined metoo with a hashtag. Rose is a better actor though. It was created in 2006 by Tarana Burke. She meant it as an international movement for justice for marginalized people in marginalized communities too, not just privileged white women lol
I agree. He asked for and got consent and then years later the women wanted attention and came forward publicly. If it was truly as upsetting and devastating as they claim, blindsiding the guy in a public forum isn't the way to do it.
@@ThunderDomeBoxingTalk As far as I know, he wasn't in a position to hire/fire them. They were all independent contractors performing at a festival together. He was one of the headliners so in terms of industry standing they made the case that he had more power but in terms of the actual employment for the booking, they were on equal footing.
Quartknee K you shouldn’t agree. It’s wrong for the same reason that a teacher can’t fuck a student, a person in power (or with authority) over someone should not be putting them in a situation like that. If you were a 20 year old intern that has your 1 shot working with him, and he says hey let me jerk off in front of you, you gonna say no? Probably not becuasue 1) fear. Fear of losing your job, fear of being forced, etc... 2) most women are smaller than men, so obviously when in a tense situation they can, and should feel a bit uncomfortable since they know in the back of their mind that they can be overpowered. Not saying Louie should be hung, but he’s not some innocent man that’s a victim of lying women, he’s basically a perv that has weird kink’s & he did some shady stuff. Let him keep doing comedy, that’s fine. But nobody should be pissed that TV networks don’t want to work with him, why would you give Louie a special after all this, when there’s 100’s of people just as funny that don’t have baggage
Yeah there’s nothing wrong about what he did I think people for the most part are scared to say that. People like joe rogan and bill here have reputations they have to uphold for the sake of their income. So nobody you will see on mainstream channels will argue it, when reality he had full consent and it’s the same as having consensual sex with someone..
I always found it strange that a girl gets peed on and its “comedy” to say she could have moved out the way, but grown adults didn’t leave an uncomfortable situation.
Aziz Ansari needs to be un-canceled as well. The girl he dated could have left ANY time and she claims she gave “non-verbal” hints she didn’t like the date but went from dinner to his apartment to undressing herself naked to hanging out and smoking weed with him while still naked. WTF. Like what sort of non-verbal “I don’t like this date” could be there while she’s intentionally hanging out with you naked? She could just get up and put on her clothes and leave if she wanted, at any time. Or VERBALIZE. It’s insane.
@@BScott7220 Saw him this summer in Greece, it was the first thing he joked about , everyone found it hilarious , he moved on with the rest of his skit , he ended up getting a standing ovation at the end. Was a great time , he did recycle a couple of recent jokes but it was mostly new content, im sure most of that has already been thrown in the bin by now and that he already has bunch of new material
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I just saw Louis last night and he's absolutely getting his groove back. He's lost weight, his more misjudged jokes are gone from the set, and he does address his kink. And really, that's what it is - like Joe says in the clip, he wasn't blocking doors or raping people, as his out of control detractors insist.
Name one business you could be in besides comedy or movies where I could jerk off in front of people and keep my job? Believe me i like his comedy and have for years but how do you defend someone who does this?
@@MattSmith-vl8zp "So you asked a coworker if you could beat off in front of her in a bathroom? And then you said you'd get her fired if she said anything about it? Yeah, you're fired" Sounds about right to me.
@@evanwestendorf9667 He never said he would get anyone fired for mentioning it.
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@@brometheus4621 Oh, I can name a lot of businesses where you could privately ask someone to jack off in front of them in private and keep your job: all of them. Look, his kink is fucking weird, and it's pretty gross, as Joe and Bill attest in this clip, but it's also a far cry from assault. I feel like context has completely flown the coop in the 21st Century, and it's making us a dumber and less forgiving society.
Matt Smith because we don’t fucking care! I don’t care if he jerked off, it doesn’t fucking matter! The more you act like a bitch about it the more I have to defend his actions “Name one business you can jerk off at” how about Pornhub you dumb fuck! You really didn’t think that one through. Not to mention a LOT WORSE goes on in Hollywood that makes jerking off in front of people consensually almost look like a non-issue
Neither do. I also don’t understand what’s wrong with him wanting to jerk off while consenting adult women watch. I also don’t understand why it’s creepy or shocking. What boring vanilla missionary only sex is everyone having? Btw I’m a women.
The issue is that they claim they only said yes because of the IMPLICATION of what he might do if they declined. He is, of course, a big and dangerous man and showbiz can be pretty political and his word could have harmed their careers. Nevermind that he isn't at all physically imposing and there is zero evidence of him ever using his clout to damage someone's career.
When you’re in jail and then get out, you’re not really “allowed back”. You can physically leave the prison, but most jobs won’t take you on. Most people look down upon you. You’re not really allowed back into society.
@@nitrojanks2977 one SHOULD apologize for anything they regret no matter the political standing of who it is they hurt. One should never apologize for anything they do not regret.
This whole Me Too movement is a very complicated thing. Because, as Bill Maher very well said, most of us can agree that this is a legit movement, that's been helping to reveal a lot of shady stuff but on the other hand there's a lot of bad people taking advantage on it and ruining other people lives.
we all know that, the trick is to make every stupid fuck out there to believe that, so that CK becomes mainstream again, so that we have more CK specials
@@rosecullen4429 Attacks arrived even from girls that given verbal consent. This whole "position of power" thing does not work if he clearly does not use that as a threat, and most of the girls were comedians, so there was no position of power. Still people's "jury" placed him next to wenstein, or to Cosby
he is selling out more shows now then ever before. I'd say he has been forgiven. he will be back as soon as they realize most of the public still love him
If 'uncomfortable feelings' accounts as rape than we are all both rapists and victims 'cause there's no way in hell any of us hasn't been responsible for them at some point, both as giver or receiver, so no.
Sometimes I think women just make a huge drama on their privileges. 2 women made me uncomfortable too. They were my Mom & Sister. Hitting on my ass like Everytime & Rubbing on chest. MAYBE they do it in a 'Mommy' & 'Sistery' way, but I'm frickin 20 year grown. Not a little boy anymore. They KNOW that it makes me uncomfortable, but they STILL do it. What should I say? "Stop hitting on my ass & rubbing on chest"? They'll say "Oh I'm your mother/sister. You thought me I was doing it like that way?" Ok so what? Can you imagine a dad/brother doing this to their sister? Instant police. Stop just stop doing it just because men body isn't much sexualized. STOP IT 🖐️😤
@@MiskyMBA privileges of being able to get protection inmediatly at any situation because that's how society says things have to be (not in every country, i know). Meanwhile, in the men's case, there are situation where you would be judged, doubted or laughed at just because of the sole fact that you have a penis. And of course, you can get fucked by the law thanks to this sickness called "believe women" at all cost. That's almost a gun to every man's head.
As much as I hate a lot of the things Bill Maher has said and believes, I can’t help but like him. He has also said a lot of things I agree with and he’s at least a stand up guy about what he believes.....which is respectable.
This is the problem.....there should be no concern for a man for a freaking bunch cunts to come trying to target him if there is no legitimate criminal or serious morally devoid action
@@Sam-gn6og and there isn't. It's almost explicitly a celebrity/famous person problem, they are just like to pretend like it's a global problem when it affects them. For normal people whose jobs don't depend on being liked this s*** blows over, and sometimes the only punishment is people talking behind your back for a while.
There was zero debt to society to be paid in the case of Louis CK. The women, however, should be held accountable. They CLEARLY thought 'yayy! we're getting in with Louis.. we're gonna be famous!!' , and when THAT didn't work in their favour, they decided to go public, hoping that, by damaging Louis, they would, somehow, elevate their own profiles in the comedy sphere. They took a positive necessary movement like #metoo, and exploited it for their own gains. Shameful.
Maher: Charlie Sheen did WAY worse stuff 10 seconds later Maher: didn't he?...that one time in Aspen...with his third wife or something? Something happened I don't know... Sounds just like Maher.
He threatened his wife with a knife. And allegedly slept with people when he knew he was HIV+ etc. But I think Bill was likely skirting around very bad rumors. He probably didn't want to get sued. He didn't want to explicitly say something about Charlie Sheen.... probably. You guys don't get it.
Mr. Sensible regardless of whether it’s true or not, why insinuate that Sheen did something terrible if you don’t know or aren’t willing to divulge what actually happened? That’s how metoo got out of hand
"Charlie Sheen ... he has no shame" "Louis did apologize and own-up to it..." These are the two key statements in the clip that explain everything about why Charlie has a super-bowl commercial and Louis is ostracized. It isn't about justice or fairness; its about exploiting any/all vulnerability for the sake of displaying the power of the mob, and in doing so expanding that power via consensus (legitimate or otherwise). Capitulation and apology does not grant forgiveness or relief, rather it the equivalent to pleading 'guilty-as-charged' to the worst interpretation possible for any and all claims made against you now or in the future. Your punishment is automatically the absolute maximum the mob can apply, with your capitulation and apology serving as your endorsement for whatever the mob demand. Your job, your marriage, your kids, your home, vigilante violence against you; you could literally be murdered in public and a large portion of the mob will conclude you had it coming. This sort of "justice" is exactly why civilization birthed our imperfect but far preferable court system, and what progressives see today as progress is exactly the opposite. Listed charges, the right to confront your accuser in court, a defined range of possible punishments, a jury of your peers or at the very least a trained and certified judge; this is civilized and fair. If accusers aren't willing to make it official and take the proper legal path, the ONLY response any targeted person should provide is GO FUCK YOURSELF
Not true. I’ve heard Charlie apologize for things. Other actors also apologize and everybody forgets a what the fuss was about 3 days later. While other people refuse to apologize and are punished for life. There is no science or methodology behind it. Some things “stick” and some things don’t. Depending on how the stars align, how you handle it, and what else is in the news at the time all play factors. Americans’ expectations are also constantly evolving. Before social media’s rise the public absolutely LOVED the “confess and repent” schtick where all the cameras caught the moment. It gave “closure” and the public loved to see the “comeback” after they publicly repented for their sins. But now most the PR firms would all discourage this type of thing because it’s too scripted & inauthentic and will just add fuel to feed the social media fire. But still there’s some celebs and politicians who can “ride the storm and direct the whirlwind” and come out unscathed. It just depends...
@tipseason Rex I think, if I'm remembering correctly, it was people that were working under him. Whether they were a part of production staff, openers, etc. People were saying that they were "forced to say yes" because their jobs were at stake. I think that's dumb. They totally could've said no and left. But that's what was going around before all the twitter idiots started calling him a rapist.
There is a vocal minority that will never feel he deserves to move on with his professional life, no matter what. Unfortunately, they are so vocal that people in positions of power seem to think they are a majority and that their opinion matters.
Good thing Kevin Spacey is innocent because his accusers killed themselves, also I guess Epstein was only guilty of 2 counts of underage prostitution since he only ever pleaded to that.
That is absolutely not at all factual. Our severely broken, sexist, racist and biased judicial system is so lacking when it comes to the rights and protections of specific groups of people. A woman who is raped confronts her attacker in court and more times than not she ends up being shamed, attacked and accused of somehow provoking it. Nothing a woman could possible do justifies her being raped. So to say that if it's not deemed illegal in court then it's not an attack against someone is naive and part of the reason why woman and people of color have had enough and are getting justice for themselves since our justice system and society don't seemed concerned enough to help them. Just like everything some people will abuse it and some will take it way to far but that doesn't negate the fact that we have some serious issues in this country and the world that we as a species need to address and stop looking the other way because it doesn't directly affect us.
Think people are forgetting that Louis vehemently denied it at first. He only admitted to it once he was backed into a corner with multiple accusations. That made it alot worse.
@@gheller2261 or when they feel guilty of something. I know alot of people are hinging on the women that consented to it, but there were a couple who werent given the chance to. He just dropped trow and got to business according to them. Not tryin to keep the man cancelled here, just tryin to call it how i see it.
We get mad about men “slut shaming” women, but if what Louis C K did was consensual, then why are we punishing him? We canceling him for being a kinky dude.
austin M I can see yo don’t think very deep. You can be in a situation on your own accord and still feel forced. I can imagine a woman being with him having fun thinking wow I’m with my idol! This is Loui freaking CK, then he asks the question, can I beat off in front of you. As a man we think just leave, but the way people handle tense situations especially when feeling inferior is going to vary. And I can see women just going with it on sheer fear and mixed emotions in an atmosphere they would never predicted would have happened, Louie has a power because of who he is that he has to be more responsible with. Like I said it’s not a huge deal but he did something wrong. Bottom line, if he didn’t do anything wrong, nothing would have happened it’s that simple.
@@franciscososa3441 They went back to his fucking hotel room late at night you moron. What situation did they think was going arise? A friendly cup of tea and some banter?
@@danh4724 as far as iv'e understod he didn't do any thing illigal. What he did was damage his image, which he needs to be successful as a celebrity. He f'****ed up and has to live with the consequences, what he did isn't stoping him from changing carers, it's not a human right to be a comedian or a celebrity. Diffrent jobs requier diffrent skils and personal traits, it just so happens that jerking off whenever your alone in the rom with someone is not a desirable trait when part of your job is to be liked.
Arturo Fair enough. Nobody is stopping him from releasing material on his own or continue touring where people will book him. But as far as all these metoo cases, if somebody does something illegal, then women should go to the police and hash it out in the legal system. Otherwise, there are just accusations of wrongdoing and smearing.
TipTheScales27 Not sure if it was the same one but that bit you mentioned was brilliant. He has a way of tap dancing around a dangerous topic and getting lots of laughs doing it.
onee Yeah, but he was in a position of power to the women professionally, so it put them in a bind. Not a cool thing to do, but nowhere close to sexual assault.
@@brainmind4070 that's like saying that if a popular musician hooks up with an aspiring musician (even back stage) consent can't be made because there is a power dynamic -one being popular with resources/connections and the other without-. The aspiring musician's career would not have ended because they said 'no'; though it's fair to say it may not take off in the same way. Furthermore, not all forms of employment operate in the same medium. In this case, there was no discrete promotion or demotion to be had. By giving verbal consent, but not actually "meaning it" their behavior is just sycophantic when viewed through the lens of power dynamics.
This is true. Another important factor is people keep mentioning "in the workplace" but it was in his own personal hotel room after 2am, and after the 3 of them decided to go into his room following a night of them drinking.
Joe Byrne It really depends on how it happens, but a popular musician abusing his fame to get another aspiring musician to watch him masturbate would be the same deal.
@@brainmind4070 Context matters always, that should go without saying. Regardless, as joe Rogan said it is not sexual assault. It's not even indecent exposure because they gave verbal consent. If I asked you for money and you willingly gave it to me - but you didnt really want to and were just uncomfortable with me asking- did steal from you? No. Now add a power dynamic into it, but I haven't promised you anything whether it be reward or punishment. It's still not stealing. It's still not a crime, nor should it be.
we should get Louis CK on Joe Rogan now
Let's like this shit until Jamie sees it
Absolutely
Louie doesn’t really seem like the podcast guest type lol
@@joeybrisk1869 i've seen him on podcasts before doing just fine. And with a friend of his like Joe I think it'd be even better
He doesn't have to
"You can't change the definition of a word because it makes you feel better about hating someone." -- brilliant line.
BippityBoopity yeah he must be a genius for putting that sentence together... let me guess.... you’re an atheist
@@zevyzevness3800 I'm an atheist! It's fun!
zevyzev ness What does that have to do with religion? It’s a really smart and factual statement.
Says who?
Danny Diaz oh. Have you attended?
Louie CK asked, had permission no harm. He’s cancelled. Chris Brown beats Rihanna bad, still here touring making videos.
Liberals are terrified of criticizing black people
@Mal Aquila interesting hypothetical planet your mind lives on. On planet Earth Chris Brown has songs that came out well over a year ago that are still top charting.
chris brown got a lot of shit for that and apparently was blackballed from the industry and nobody would play his new music. He just kept releasing music, being friends with popular people in music to collab with and then eventually they started promoting his music again because young girls generate lots of money.
@Mal Aquila The "height of his popular" was past 2009. I couldn't stop hearing his music around 2012 or so.
@Mal Aquila So not being at the height of popularity = no one supports anything he does anymore. He's still relevant. It's easy to say "he's not relevant anymore" when you're the one that stopped paying attention. That's like people telling me I live under a rock because I don't think Keanu Reeves is relevant anymore. Shit, lil Dicky brought him back to the spotlight even if for a month with Freaky Friday. But hey, even rapists make bad arguments sometimes.
One time I replied to someone correcting them after they called Louis a sexual predator. They said “are you gonna defend Jeffrey Epstein now too?” It’s sad how many people value being right over the truth.
Yeah you get it all the time or you mention Jordan Peterson and they say next you'll be defending Hitler, it's a tactic used by weak minded clowns
We live in strange times now. I don't talk to people at work AT ALL except necessary business- related talk. Someone was fired for sexual harassment. I heard he asked a secretary on a date.
They associate the two as the same thing because they're privileged valley girls who want their lives to appear harder than it is. Both situations share a surface level theme so they're obviously the same.
WetToesAndSandscrapedKnees tbh I think a lot of people are just very misinformed about the whole Louis situation. I’d like to think that they are just ignorant and not intentionally malicious.
@@geraldsmalton2420 I don't.
Get Ja Rule on the show, I'm sure he could make sense of all this.
WHERE IS JA!
WE NEED TO KNOW HOW JA FEELS ABOUT THIS!!
🤣🤣
He's in shaq's toilet
Ja Rule is kind of an idiot
Fuckin classic EPIC!!!😂😂😂😂
One of the BEST and my favorite lines of Mahers is
“I’m down with MeToo, but I’m not down with MeCarthyism”
Just Brilliant.
Same!!!!
He is absolutely right.
Because at what point does a man look at a woman, trying to figure out if they went to high school together or not, she misunderstands it as being "undressed w/his eyes," hashtags the thing #MeToo, & ends up ruining a man's career for, literally, nothing, ya know?
he's an atheist.
he's not
brilliant....
@@ryanmozert So not believing in a magic man in the sky who loves you unconditionally, EXCEPT with a bunch of conditions... Not believing in the magic man in the clouds makes one "not brilliant?!!" Damn, son! That is fucking rich! 😂😆 SMFH 💯
It's unfortunate that we are now mistaking consensual kink with sexual threat. This creates a girl who cried wolf situation and is insulting to actual victims.
Yeah but it shouldn't be done between people who work together or for one another. That creates a conflict of interest etc
@@dougrogan379 That's nonsense. Tons of people date coworkers, as an adult it's the number one place you meet and get to know other people. That's like saying high school or college students shouldn't date each other.
Well said
I'm a straight guy. But if a dude starts jerking it across the room, I'm gonna laugh my ass off. As long as it doesn't touch me or sling rope in my direction, I'm almost cool with it. Male nudity is always funny, especially when it's shocking. If those two parameters are broken tho....it's assault lol. I have a buddy that used to bend over and show just his asshole to people at random. That shit was hilarious.
Boofer T. Washington except he didn’t just pull his Dick out and start jacking off. From how Sarah Silverman explained it, he asked permission first...
A JRE clip that gets to the point right away. My dreams have come true.
"You can't just change the definition of a word because it makes you feel better about hating someone" a lesson for this generation.
or rewrite the circumstances and context to fit your agenda. On this thread alone you can see people claiming CK did it to employees. The story I heard was 2 fellow comics at a comedy festival. Those aren't employees.
@@thebiowatchlist there was one woman who was working on a show with him, but I can't remember if she was a direct employee or not. I like Louis CK but I think what he did was wrong. I also don't think he should have been lumped in with the actual rapists like Cosby and Weinstein. The only reason it ruined his career is because of the timing. We were stringing predators up at the time and he got washed in with the wave.
Maybe THE lesson. Here's hoping....
@@laythadrian5705 were "we" stringing predators up at the time? Well then why did the woman that came out and said when she was secretary to joe biden he raped her and groped her get canceled?
@@krotchlickmeugh627 for the same reason Trump didn't get canceled despite having multiple accusations against him. But you probably demand undeniable proof for those and are willing to accept only a testimony when it comes to Biden.
Louis CK needs to bring back his show Louie. Best shit on TV when it was on.
Completely agree!!
Rarely have I ever pissed myself laughing as when I was watching that show.
Very well written and directed.
Loved seeing Stanhope and Robin Williams on it too.
It seems to be based off of circumstances in his own life but jazzed up for TV into a unique narrative.
Lucky Louie was better, not so hard up it’s own privileged and successful but “depressed “ ass
Baskets is great too!
The ep when Louie CK went to 🇨🇳 was ✔...
Horace and Pete is also fire if you guys haven't seen it
Louis on the podcast would be awesome
That'll be the day.
E Karsens Hes always good on Mark Marrons podcast before.. great on stern too. I’d love him to do JRE too
@tipseason Rex you're clearly new
That has to happen.
It wouldn't make a difference. The people that have judged Louis are not gonna change their mind.
I saw him in Toronto last September, and his opener was:
"So how's your life going"
Killer
I saw him here in slovakia in november and the whole show was so fucking hillarious
Can’t wait to see him live!
Elizabeth Parada : Can’t wait you see him dead 🙂
Ash Roskell stupid
“Fuck it, I lost millions of dollars” lmao
Get Norm macdonald on the show. He could clear this whole thing up, I'm sure of it!
Even if he doesn't I'll die laughing at the attempt
He will definitely need some detailed explanation before he can fix it.
you know ive heard that guy is a real JERK
I heard that before Norm goes on, Joe is going to book... you guessed it, Frank Stallone!
Norm Macdonald? seems like a real.....nah Norms alright
If only you guys had shows that you could invite Louis CK to be on.
Exactly, pair of pussys
Rogan would clearly have him on, Louis probably just doesn't wanna do it yet
He’s probably been invited to both I doubt Louis wants to be on anything like that.
Pretty sure Rogen has invited him at least once.
You don’t think it’s most likely Louis has been invited and declined?
I miss Louis C.K and want him back
doesn't the image of him as a pathetic middle aged man wanking off in front of a helpless woman put you off, though? 😆
@@LucasNauan the fact she complained means something was awry. Wanking in front of a lady who's not keen smacks of desperation to me. Are you upset that I insulted your hero? 😅
I went to see him last summer. He was hilarious.
He is back. New hour on the website. So funny.
Ali H “ helpless “ 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Louis CK needs to quit having his name brought out every time Me Too is brought out.
He’s not a rapist, nor is he a child molester. Let’s be realistic as to what he did comparative to others.
I put his lewd acts on the level of Paul Ruebens. I just hope Louis comes back bc he's the funniest comedian out there today.
@@MyPrayingmantis The small percentage of a Twitter users that attack him are just hoping to open doors for their shitty careers. Real Americans dont give two fucks about METOO!
@@yanbrushfire5917 Real Americans should give plenty of fucks about genuine cases of genuine MeToo.
@@MyPrayingmantis he got his knob out with young women, stripped naked, and they felt awkward, lacking power and didn't know what to do. That's wrong. He knew he was "asking" and they would find it difficult to say know because they wanted the work. He was abusing his power. Then if the women started talkingv about it then his manager would tell them to stop talking.
www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.amp.html
That's why they bring him and Aziz up, because it's on the margins... nobody debates the rapists.
The real crime is people have been deprived of Louis CK’s comedy
Maybe you have. I saw him at a sold out show last week. Most of the tour is sold out.
@@santadog9 Way to go. It's great his shows are selling out.
@@santadog9 True. But, I'm talking about his specials. We use to get an hour long Louis CK special every year. Also, the Louie on FX show.
Amen!!!
@@JoshuaFrick3 yeah, the Louie show on fx. My favorite show. Totally deprived. Best show on tv. That and Better Things.
Why cant Bill Maher be like this on his show? He's so real when he's not pandering
he is a coward,he doesnt have the balls to say what he really thinks.
An opinion someone can only hold if he doesnt watch his show.
He is way more rational off his show
Even here he is a coward and pandering.
@@Shatter84 nah, dude is a d-bag
"Judge Rose McGowan presiding" LMAOOOO
What Louis did was weird but he didn’t do anything non-consensual. He should be forgiven already.
Well it's exhibitionism which is usually nonconsentual but also pretty common, it's a common kink and you can find millions of examples of it happening on pornhub. Definitely inappropriate but it's weird that he is being so singled out on it. It hurts his case that he is a man and a powerful older man to be specific, because there is less tolerance for that, a woman would have gotten away with it and nobody would care.
@@DeclinedMercy True, and I get that women could somehow be in a position where they feel that they have to say yes, but from what we know of Louis, it seems like he would have stopped right away if they changed their mind.
It raises a question of if you're a man, particularly a man with power, are you even able to ask someone something like this or will it immediately be an abuse of power?
Personally, I feel it's a bit ridiculous. The feminist community needs to come up with realistic standards that apply equally to men and women and which are fair to people who do have positions of power. There's no standard, what Polly does is fine but Paul gets ridiculed.
What about a woman's sexual kinks??
Would a Woman be permitted to ask permission?
The most privilaged position is being a young, beautiful, sexy women.
She can have anything with very little effort,,,, then take offence years later
@@DeclinedMercy actually he asked them if he could masturbate in front of them and they consented. literally all of them.
Consent is a huge factor. If it was consensual, then wtf.
I think the concern was that he was in a somewhat powerful position over the women he did this with, then it's not necessarily a purely consensual act, like if a woman consented to sex with her boss for fear of losing her job. This isn't exactly that and not saying I agree with this whole thing, but that seems to be the concern.
He was not their boss. Period.
Louie has to come back, his genius in standup and also tv/movie making was out of this world
you can go to his website right this second and buy a ticket to go and see him perform
@@KD-ib4qq I'm seeing him tonight at a sold out show in Akron Ohio.
MickeRamone 100%
@G Walker Yes excactly =/
The FX Louis show was so damned dark & depressing, but somehow also hilarious, & unique.
Louis CK was collateral damage. He’s not in the same league as any of the other guys called out that year. He deserves to be back on stage.
Max Maloney he is back thank goodness
Max Maloney someone with wisdom writing ! Finally!!!
gore You're an idiot. Fuck you.
Max Maloney -- Just Like James Franco
@ricky gore He is not a sex offender, he's a perv.
'You can't just change the definition of a word because it makes you feel better about hating someone' - well said Joe.
"I got dreams too baby!" - Chappelle, Dave
''If a man cannot pee on his fans...''😂
MS8three how old is 15 really?
Krunkler he asked a very good question😂
He asked her and she Said yes.with that Said he did nothing wrong.
Not that simple. If you are in the workplace, you shouldn't have to worry about random people asking if they can jerk off in front of you. If it is someone that has a say in who gets promoted, who gets less hours, even worse. Even Louis has said he regrets ever doing it. He was doing something wrong. The point is, he has been punished much worse than others that have done worse and there seems to be no path for redemption.
If you have a random person in power that asks if they can jerk off in front of you and you say yes that's weak mindedness. There's a million things you could do to avoid that. And press charges and get him fired. If I worked in a place where some whale kept asking to fingerblast herself in front of meI would gtfo of that workplace and report her. But all you care about is the end result which is a better advantage over other people. I guess we're all vain
As someone who has 17 employees, mostly women, I can say he did something terribly wrong as a professional. I have power over my employees lives and livelihood. If I ask to do something that bothers them, they may naturally have a fear that if they reject me, they could receive negative treatment or lose their livelihood. That places a responsibility on me to not put them in those positions as a boss.
@@ModeratelyAmused It wasn’t in the workplace. He was a middle tier road comic when all the allegations occurred.
@@killinit913 yeah but that's you being wise as a boss and that's how great businesses are made but imagine that you are an employee wouldn't it be better to stand up to what's right even if the person is powerful I mean is livelihood and money that important that one would just allow themselves to be abused for it I mean there are many ways to make money and most of them don't have some creep pressuring you for sexual reasons
Charlie Sheen comes from a Hollywood family. Louis CK made it on his own. There's the difference and I'm all for CK. Waiting for his tour so I can go.
one word. Chris Brown. Way worse than any of the metoo shit. Still one of the biggest celebrities
*Louis
@@bobthebear1246 Thanks! Typo. I'll fix.
I'm surprised Bill let Joe on his podcast.
Yeah he‘s a talker :)
yeah, i like my guests to be people who say very little too.
🤣
Lol...
Lol.
When Bill whispered “WAY WORSE” that had me dead
Because everyone knows he's right LoL
LOL
He’s judge and jury 🙄
Charlie destroyed kids lives.. kids. I'd say that's way worse.
So... he's Real life Bojack Horseman
I'm glad to see that there is somewhere on the internet where this discussion can take place without people losing their jobs.
I saw Louis CK tonight in Reading PA for a huge show and he got a standing ovation before AND after the show. He addressed his controversy in a hilarious 10 minute bit and it was the hardest I've ever laughed at a stand up show. Louis is back everyone. Special is definitely coming.
Saw that show in Omaha and working in newsroom, I got a lot of sighs from those who knew I was going but almost half assed like they knew it had all gone too far. Got to see him again on his last one at the same club six months back and the crowd’s love for him was fucking inspiring.
@@matthewhaave3735 Right? I had a bunch of "friends" who stopped following him after the controversy. All of these lefties who ride the same wave have become devoid of being able to enjoy laughter, it's been sad to watch. Comedy is all we have left to cope through this wacky world, take that away and we have nothing but depression and loneliness.
The MeToo movement quickly declined into a grievance victimhood group. A feminist even wrote an article saying she didn't care innocent men were hurt.
Rembrandt van Rijn Not all feminist or woman think way you suggested. I feel and think Louis did something not so right...
I also think the media punishment has been severely hardshh on him and it’s enough. I don’t like when people still talking bad and treating him bad. 🤦🏼♀️
An Incel also wrote that he doesnt care if innocent women got hurt. So whats your point.
@@kilalawak70 Probably that both are a couple of twats
@@mrsconsolelog you think asking for consent and getting it and then doing the act is wrong?
yes
There is an episode of Seinfeld where Jerry dirty talks with a woman he is dating. After she says something filthy to him, he says "you mean the panties you're mother laid out for you?" The woman ended up flipping out and leaving. George says "that's not offensive. It's abnormal, but it's not offensive." Kinda sums up the Louie CK situation.
I thought it was George who said it.
@@thebiowatchlist who said what?
I can’t wait for Louie to make a come back. He’s too honest with himself to be an actual danger to anyone.
you can go online right this second and buy a ticket to go and see him perform
Yea he keeps adding dates. I’m seeing him in Phoenix
Just drove from Toronto to Ohio to go see him last night. Was amazing.
If I wanted any come back ....
K D Is Tyuh bbhhhuuiioo
I agree with him, there is a lot of double standards
Bill Maher is the King of Double Standards
tyler norton my dude, that logic is so illogical and very sexist, why do dudes NEED TO BE SO AGRESSIVELY SEXUAL, your the type that makes these situations worse between gender relations I would completely say this all you and whoever u propagate these ideas of “ofc HES gonna take his dick out” while also saying that women have their TÎTS out which YOU have no control over THAT IS THEIR CHOICE! IT IS ALSO UR CHOICE TO RESPECT SOMEONE ELSES CHOICE FOR SEXUAL ACTIVITIES
Seeing Louie in like 5 days. I can’t wait. He didn’t pull a Bill Cosby or even a Matt Lauer. I think he’s paid enough.
Have you seen him?
How was it?
Marko Nikolic I laughed my ass off. Our phones were locked into this magnetic bag thing and you weren’t allowed to have ANYTHING on you that you could transcribe his material with. His openers were great except the one that came on right before him, that guy was like every hack late 80’s “wild man” comic you’ve ever seen. Anyways, he did like 20 minutes on the word retarded and I kid you not I was crying. He’s just so freaking smart. It’s hysterical stuff. I’m praying he does a special. He addressed his “thing” at the end and it’s pretty solid. I don’t know how people are gonna find fault with how he addresses it. It’s still Louie so it’s vulgar and so over the line but it’s solidly funny and you can see his side of it. How it’s affected him. If he’s anywhere near you I’d say run buy a ticket. I won’t ruin any bits, but he did ten minutes on what body swapping movie would be like if it were a drama about a son and his mom.......lol. Gold. Just filthy and hysterical.
@@tobysgamingworld1550 In a weird way I think this was good for him because he was starting to take this filmic genius shit way too seriously. I didn't find his shows that great, but standup, at least since 2000, is what this guy was born to do.
@Rowan Melton I can’t see why. The opener was ten times more funny. That guy was BRUTAL. I actually Louie did it just to troll the audience.
@@tobysgamingworld1550 i saw that bit on CZcams recently about the mother and son. Jesus lmao all I gotta say haha
I found a good amount of his special on CZcams, can't afford tickets or even the $7 lol but it was just like old Louie man. He hasn't missed a step.
Louie C.K. needs to come back. One of the best comedians of all time, at the top of his game, AND on the verge of becoming even bigger since he had gotten a lot of praise for his serious acting roles.
"You cant change the definition of words to justify hating someone" woah felt that lol.
"judge rose mcgowan residing" hahhahaa i'm dying
presiding
Don't forget Alyssa Milano, who ruined metoo with a hashtag. Rose is a better actor though. It was created in 2006 by Tarana Burke. She meant it as an international movement for justice for marginalized people in marginalized communities too, not just privileged white women lol
I like how Bill butted in to answer his question he asked Joe...
Lol i thought the exact thing. Talking over each other is rampant on this episode
jscriv he’s unapologetic deal with it
@@nunyabizwacks6711 Talking over each other has been the norm for the last 10 years on every news, talk and podcast show.
You think this is bad? I can’t watch 30 seconds of Howard Stern anymore…
He’s a fruitcake.
He didn’t do anything wrong ! He asked everyone as weird as it was. He talked about this shit for years in his stand up
I agree. He asked for and got consent and then years later the women wanted attention and came forward publicly. If it was truly as upsetting and devastating as they claim, blindsiding the guy in a public forum isn't the way to do it.
@@ThunderDomeBoxingTalk As far as I know, he wasn't in a position to hire/fire them. They were all independent contractors performing at a festival together. He was one of the headliners so in terms of industry standing they made the case that he had more power but in terms of the actual employment for the booking, they were on equal footing.
Quartknee K you shouldn’t agree. It’s wrong for the same reason that a teacher can’t fuck a student, a person in power (or with authority) over someone should not be putting them in a situation like that. If you were a 20 year old intern that has your 1 shot working with him, and he says hey let me jerk off in front of you, you gonna say no? Probably not becuasue 1) fear. Fear of losing your job, fear of being forced, etc... 2) most women are smaller than men, so obviously when in a tense situation they can, and should feel a bit uncomfortable since they know in the back of their mind that they can be overpowered.
Not saying Louie should be hung, but he’s not some innocent man that’s a victim of lying women, he’s basically a perv that has weird kink’s & he did some shady stuff. Let him keep doing comedy, that’s fine. But nobody should be pissed that TV networks don’t want to work with him, why would you give Louie a special after all this, when there’s 100’s of people just as funny that don’t have baggage
@@rb3k157 lmao if you think any of this is weird, kinky, shady you must live under a rock and go to church 4 days a week
Yeah there’s nothing wrong about what he did I think people for the most part are scared to say that. People like joe rogan and bill here have reputations they have to uphold for the sake of their income. So nobody you will see on mainstream channels will argue it, when reality he had full consent and it’s the same as having consensual sex with someone..
I always found it strange that a girl gets peed on and its “comedy” to say she could have moved out the way, but grown adults didn’t leave an uncomfortable situation.
Aziz Ansari needs to be un-canceled as well. The girl he dated could have left ANY time and she claims she gave “non-verbal” hints she didn’t like the date but went from dinner to his apartment to undressing herself naked to hanging out and smoking weed with him while still naked. WTF. Like what sort of non-verbal “I don’t like this date” could be there while she’s intentionally hanging out with you naked? She could just get up and put on her clothes and leave if she wanted, at any time. Or VERBALIZE. It’s insane.
My phone now has dead pixels from trying to display the shine on Joe's head.
Seriously Joe is getting darker and darker. He looks biracial now almost.
If you squint your eyes the shining pattern kinda sorta looks like Hellboy actually
blackmesaresearch lol
I didn’t notice it UNTIL you brought it up. Haha. Now I have to change the color tone on this.
LOL you guys 😅😂🤣
"You can't change the definition of assault" lmfao. I love Joe Rogan
BM: What do you think about Louis CK?
JR: Well-
BM: HERE'S WHAT I THINK
😂😂😂
Kurt Antonini it’s not an interview, it’s a podcast. A podcast is a conversation by nature. Plus Bill is the one who asked the question
bill probably has adhd and cant figure out the proper time to interject in a convo. i do this all the time
Saw Louis 2 weeks ago. Fucjin great.
did he directly or indirectly address any of this stuff?
Brandon Weidner pretty sure the comment on the “whole new hour” probably would point in the yes direction.
@@BScott7220 Saw him this summer in Greece, it was the first thing he joked about , everyone found it hilarious , he moved on with the rest of his skit , he ended up getting a standing ovation at the end. Was a great time , he did recycle a couple of recent jokes but it was mostly new content, im sure most of that has already been thrown in the bin by now and that he already has bunch of new material
I just saw Louis last night and he's absolutely getting his groove back. He's lost weight, his more misjudged jokes are gone from the set, and he does address his kink. And really, that's what it is - like Joe says in the clip, he wasn't blocking doors or raping people, as his out of control detractors insist.
Name one business you could be in besides comedy or movies where I could jerk off in front of people and keep my job? Believe me i like his comedy and have for years but how do you defend someone who does this?
@@MattSmith-vl8zp "So you asked a coworker if you could beat off in front of her in a bathroom? And then you said you'd get her fired if she said anything about it? Yeah, you're fired"
Sounds about right to me.
@@evanwestendorf9667 He never said he would get anyone fired for mentioning it.
@@brometheus4621 Oh, I can name a lot of businesses where you could privately ask someone to jack off in front of them in private and keep your job: all of them.
Look, his kink is fucking weird, and it's pretty gross, as Joe and Bill attest in this clip, but it's also a far cry from assault. I feel like context has completely flown the coop in the 21st Century, and it's making us a dumber and less forgiving society.
Matt Smith because we don’t fucking care! I don’t care if he jerked off, it doesn’t fucking matter! The more you act like a bitch about it the more I have to defend his actions
“Name one business you can jerk off at” how about Pornhub you dumb fuck! You really didn’t think that one through.
Not to mention a LOT WORSE goes on in Hollywood that makes jerking off in front of people consensually almost look like a non-issue
Pee Wee Herman and Louis CK walk into a Cinema...
And the Mexican standoff commences...
@@DavidMendoza-pd3pr And fred willard.
One jerked off...the other is a jerkoff
Dwight Clark and Dwight Clark walks out with white cream on his face.
Bill Maher Experience has Joe Rogan on today.
Those women, allegedly, said “yes”. I don’t see the crime here.
Yes means no in woman speak apparently
Yes only means yes temporarily. But if you have money, then eventually yes will mean no and she will try to steal it from you.
Neither do. I also don’t understand what’s wrong with him wanting to jerk off while consenting adult women watch. I also don’t understand why it’s creepy or shocking. What boring vanilla missionary only sex is everyone having? Btw I’m a women.
The issue is that they claim they only said yes because of the IMPLICATION of what he might do if they declined. He is, of course, a big and dangerous man and showbiz can be pretty political and his word could have harmed their careers. Nevermind that he isn't at all physically imposing and there is zero evidence of him ever using his clout to damage someone's career.
That's the bizarre thing.. he had consent.
When you’re in jail and then get out, you’re not really “allowed back”. You can physically leave the prison, but most jobs won’t take you on. Most people look down upon you. You’re not really allowed back into society.
Wimp. "OOOOOH you can't come back." lmao
I think that depends on the crime you're doing time for, as well as the how much time you are doing.
You can always get a messenger job, they don’t give a shit and pay shit.!
not always true
The only thing Louis CK did wrong
was apologize
Same as norm mcdonald. You have to keep your frame as a dark Humor comedian
Logical Reason you should never apologise to the far left
@@nitrojanks2977 one SHOULD apologize for anything they regret no matter the political standing of who it is they hurt. One should never apologize for anything they do not regret.
@@nitrojanks2977 you think the sjw lynch mob is the far left? You sweet summer child
Nah, he fucked up. He definitely got an unfair punishment, but he fucked up.
This whole Me Too movement is a very complicated thing. Because, as Bill Maher very well said, most of us can agree that this is a legit movement, that's been helping to reveal a lot of shady stuff but on the other hand there's a lot of bad people taking advantage on it and ruining other people lives.
“Yeah he held a knife.. to that one.. there was that one time wasn’t he... didn’t he....” nice bill
He's not wrong
Charlie denied it
Joseph Strings Yeah like Charlie Sheen is the most reliable witness
michealangelo12865 well who knows
I thought it was a gun or something and he was high out of his mind.
Louis didn’t break any laws and basically had consent. Uncouth, likely, but actual assault, no.
we all know that, the trick is to make every stupid fuck out there to believe that, so that CK becomes mainstream again, so that we have more CK specials
But he didn't have consent? Laughing when someone asks you if they can take out their cock isn't consent
@@rosecullen4429 Attacks arrived even from girls that given verbal consent. This whole "position of power" thing does not work if he clearly does not use that as a threat, and most of the girls were comedians, so there was no position of power. Still people's "jury" placed him next to wenstein, or to Cosby
he is selling out more shows now then ever before. I'd say he has been forgiven. he will be back as soon as they realize most of the public still love him
Proof that 'cancel culture' isn't as bad as everyone thinks. In fact, it can be lucrative.
He's gotta release stuff independently. That way it's up to the people to support him.
b/c now people who actually like his comedy are only going. people go to big named canadians b/c they are big named.
@@squatch545 yeah not to people with no star power
@@dannydelacruz7303 But Louie has star power, so I don't get your point.
"Get consent, but not all consent is consent. Uncomfortable feelings are a form of rape." Thanks, but I'll just avoid the whole mess entirely.
Uncomfortable feeling is also rape? Well damn, I've been raped a multitude of times then. 😂
If 'uncomfortable feelings' accounts as rape than we are all both rapists and victims 'cause there's no way in hell any of us hasn't been responsible for them at some point, both as giver or receiver, so no.
Sometimes I think women just make a huge drama on their privileges.
2 women made me uncomfortable too. They were my Mom & Sister. Hitting on my ass like Everytime & Rubbing on chest. MAYBE they do it in a 'Mommy' & 'Sistery' way, but I'm frickin 20 year grown. Not a little boy anymore. They KNOW that it makes me uncomfortable, but they STILL do it. What should I say? "Stop hitting on my ass & rubbing on chest"? They'll say "Oh I'm your mother/sister. You thought me I was doing it like that way?" Ok so what? Can you imagine a dad/brother doing this to their sister? Instant police. Stop just stop doing it just because men body isn't much sexualized. STOP IT 🖐️😤
@@supreet6331 If they make you feel uncomfortable talk to them about it, What are these privileges women have btw?
@@MiskyMBA privileges of being able to get protection inmediatly at any situation because that's how society says things have to be (not in every country, i know). Meanwhile, in the men's case, there are situation where you would be judged, doubted or laughed at just because of the sole fact that you have a penis.
And of course, you can get fucked by the law thanks to this sickness called "believe women" at all cost. That's almost a gun to every man's head.
A "me too" court?!! That is a DISASTROUS idea
obviously tongue in cheek when he said that
Better than the current reality we have now
My jaw hit the floor when he said that
@johnny walker so.....wanna date me?
Louis is so funny and this we need his insights and comedy.
Damn, this interview was in the "before times"...
Louie CK is one of the funniest Mexican comics ever
If by Mexican you mean human , yes
Lol look it up, his first language was Spanish! His dad’s Mexican, and so ya he! He’s joked and talked about it in his standup before
the dude he even goes to Mexico City every year. He’s more Mexican than Carlos Mencia
@@JampackGaming707 yeah I know he is Mexican , are you Al right dude?
Louis CK is Mexican. I don't know why people think he is some typical White American dude...
As much as I hate a lot of the things Bill Maher has said and believes, I can’t help but like him. He has also said a lot of things I agree with and he’s at least a stand up guy about what he believes.....which is respectable.
The only thing more impressive than a cancer survivor is a cancel survivor.
This is the stupidest thing you could say
Cringe
Lmao I love it
And yet neither Maher or Rogan have had Louis as a guest after the accusations.
Yep
Who’s to say he wasn’t invited you doofus
He's been invited, publicly, to both shows, multiple times. But great job being ignorant.
You assume they haven't asked and Louis didn't say no.
@@Valeriazane Then people shouldn't be stupid.
Bill sounds like he’s doing PRE damage control for the 10 women who are going to be coming after him lol
They would have already by now.
He likes black chicks I heard
Nino Bless playboy mansion days....
This is the problem.....there should be no concern for a man for a freaking bunch cunts to come trying to target him if there is no legitimate criminal or serious morally devoid action
@@Sam-gn6og and there isn't.
It's almost explicitly a celebrity/famous person problem, they are just like to pretend like it's a global problem when it affects them.
For normal people whose jobs don't depend on being liked this s*** blows over, and sometimes the only punishment is people talking behind your back for a while.
There was zero debt to society to be paid in the case of Louis CK. The women, however, should be held accountable. They CLEARLY thought 'yayy! we're getting in with Louis.. we're gonna be famous!!' , and when THAT didn't work in their favour, they decided to go public, hoping that, by damaging Louis, they would, somehow, elevate their own profiles in the comedy sphere. They took a positive necessary movement like #metoo, and exploited it for their own gains. Shameful.
Charlie Sheen is better looking than Louie CK, so he’s instantly forgiven lmfao
And it's totally not fair because Charlie is able to keep the weight off on account of the AIDS.
The3Stooges wow maybe I should get some AIDS myself
Works for women!!!
Not by much!
And both are Mexican
Seeing louis live on Wednesday.
Bet you wish ypu had dat jew gold money back
Conner have fun!
Where is it?
Just saw him last night it was incredible. You'll be happy
@@shelbytomy07 reading PA
OMG IM SO HAPPY HE WILL HAVE A NEW HOUR. I'm dying for new Louis c k material
Maher: Charlie Sheen did WAY worse stuff
10 seconds later
Maher: didn't he?...that one time in Aspen...with his third wife or something? Something happened I don't know...
Sounds just like Maher.
And a minute before that he was complaining about how there is no recourse for when people say things about you that aren’t true
What a douche
He threatened his wife with a knife. And allegedly slept with people when he knew he was HIV+ etc.
But I think Bill was likely skirting around very bad rumors. He probably didn't want to get sued. He didn't want to explicitly say something about Charlie Sheen.... probably. You guys don't get it.
Mr. Sensible regardless of whether it’s true or not, why insinuate that Sheen did something terrible if you don’t know or aren’t willing to divulge what actually happened? That’s how metoo got out of hand
I thought he was gonna mention that Lucas kid sheen was rumored to have diddled
@@CM-fk3or Corey Haim
"Charlie Sheen ... he has no shame"
"Louis did apologize and own-up to it..."
These are the two key statements in the clip that explain everything about why Charlie has a super-bowl commercial and Louis is ostracized.
It isn't about justice or fairness; its about exploiting any/all vulnerability for the sake of displaying the power of the mob, and in doing so expanding that power via consensus (legitimate or otherwise).
Capitulation and apology does not grant forgiveness or relief, rather it the equivalent to pleading 'guilty-as-charged' to the worst interpretation possible for any and all claims made against you now or in the future.
Your punishment is automatically the absolute maximum the mob can apply, with your capitulation and apology serving as your endorsement for whatever the mob demand.
Your job, your marriage, your kids, your home, vigilante violence against you; you could literally be murdered in public and a large portion of the mob will conclude you had it coming.
This sort of "justice" is exactly why civilization birthed our imperfect but far preferable court system, and what progressives see today as progress is exactly the opposite.
Listed charges, the right to confront your accuser in court, a defined range of possible punishments, a jury of your peers or at the very least a trained and certified judge; this is civilized and fair.
If accusers aren't willing to make it official and take the proper legal path, the ONLY response any targeted person should provide is GO FUCK YOURSELF
Indeed, then the hate mob comes for you NEVER aplogise. It like blood in the water to them. Its their lifeblood.
Too long buddy.
Amen
Not true. I’ve heard Charlie apologize for things. Other actors also apologize and everybody forgets a what the fuss was about 3 days later. While other people refuse to apologize and are punished for life. There is no science or methodology behind it. Some things “stick” and some things don’t. Depending on how the stars align, how you handle it, and what else is in the news at the time all play factors. Americans’ expectations are also constantly evolving. Before social media’s rise the public absolutely LOVED the “confess and repent” schtick where all the cameras caught the moment. It gave “closure” and the public loved to see the “comeback” after they publicly repented for their sins. But now most the PR firms would all discourage this type of thing because it’s too scripted & inauthentic and will just add fuel to feed the social media fire. But still there’s some celebs and politicians who can “ride the storm and direct the whirlwind” and come out unscathed. It just depends...
Som Guy how about never asking women over whom one has power if one may jerk off in front of them? Then you one may never have to worry.
Fracking and McDonalds! LOL.
Bill "👃🏻" Maher
He can smell a story from a mile away!!!
@@denverscott37 he can smell a coin from a mile away. 😉Get it
Nasal.
Lawl
😂😂😂
Bill Maher is afraid about what people think of him
Who isnt? Not many people.
Aren’t we all
Most people are
This is clear as day
I would be worried too if I was connected to a company called kid love productions🤭🤭
Saw Louie in December at a nice large theater venue in the Detroit area. He is as good as ever. Four shows all sold out.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I feel like every man is haunted by something they’ve done that they’re not particularly proud of.
I'm afraid that is an absolute truth
I was just binge watching your videos Bob
Uncle Boobs hey thanks man!
Every human **
Long live Louie.
🙏🏽 facts
Dude he ASKED and they said sure. I don't understand the problem with that
NO MEANS NO BUT I GUESS YES DOESN'T MEAN YES
@tipseason Rex EXACTLY MY POINT
This "I take back my consent" shit is fucking stupid!
@tipseason Rex I think, if I'm remembering correctly, it was people that were working under him. Whether they were a part of production staff, openers, etc. People were saying that they were "forced to say yes" because their jobs were at stake. I think that's dumb. They totally could've said no and left. But that's what was going around before all the twitter idiots started calling him a rapist.
@tipseason Rex right
@@imnottoiletbare9051 its wrong you mean
Joe didn’t understand the ‘5 fouls’ comment
Pls explain :(
Victor Borges
I didn’t either
Bill was talking about ‘5 fouls’ referring to basketball.. your 6th foul, you’re out of the game
Basketball reference to being out of the game
Lol. Ya kinda true. Ive seen guests reference bball, football and baseball and he just moves on to next question.
i laughed my ass off at "judge rose mcgowan presiding"
There is a vocal minority that will never feel he deserves to move on with his professional life, no matter what. Unfortunately, they are so vocal that people in positions of power seem to think they are a majority and that their opinion matters.
Yes, very sad.
Joe "I know more about it then most people" Rogan
"We need a metoo court" we do. It's called court. If you can't take someone to court they didn't do anything wrong.
Good thing Kevin Spacey is innocent because his accusers killed themselves, also I guess Epstein was only guilty of 2 counts of underage prostitution since he only ever pleaded to that.
That is absolutely not at all factual. Our severely broken, sexist, racist and biased judicial system is so lacking when it comes to the rights and protections of specific groups of people. A woman who is raped confronts her attacker in court and more times than not she ends up being shamed, attacked and accused of somehow provoking it. Nothing a woman could possible do justifies her being raped. So to say that if it's not deemed illegal in court then it's not an attack against someone is naive and part of the reason why woman and people of color have had enough and are getting justice for themselves since our justice system and society don't seemed concerned enough to help them.
Just like everything some people will abuse it and some will take it way to far but that doesn't negate the fact that we have some serious issues in this country and the world that we as a species need to address and stop looking the other way because it doesn't directly affect us.
Absolutely, completely agree on this one
I'm loving this episode, bring Rogan back on next time!
I thought this video was going to be about how if you combine the faces of Joe Rogan and and Bill Maher you get Louis CK.
Gmail com no sense of humour
"You can't change the meaning of words because it makes you feel better about hating someone"...
3:48 "Judge Rose McGowan"
That old Scarecrow would be like: "Your guilt has already been determined. This is merely a sentencing hearing."
Think people are forgetting that Louis vehemently denied it at first.
He only admitted to it once he was backed into a corner with multiple accusations.
That made it alot worse.
That's what people do when facing something embarrassing.
@@gheller2261 or when they feel guilty of something.
I know alot of people are hinging on the women that consented to it, but there were a couple who werent given the chance to. He just dropped trow and got to business according to them.
Not tryin to keep the man cancelled here, just tryin to call it how i see it.
Just yesterday i bought tickets to see Louie, im going to see him in may
Cant wait!
Haha awesome name and pic!! 👍👍
Pancakes Flying in buffalo
We get mad about men “slut shaming” women, but if what Louis C K did was consensual, then why are we punishing him? We canceling him for being a kinky dude.
I'm fairly certain it wasn't consensual. It's not assault, either. I love his standup, but what he did is still creepy and gross.
I defend CK, love him, but to be fair what he did wasnt consensual
Really? 2 grown men over 40 & they rationalize CK’s behavior? If it was a wife or adult daughter of either, they would b unhinged.
Louie is innocent. They need to give him back his show and his creative freedom. He literally did nothing
except jack off in front of women
He did something wrong bro but the punishment is way to severe
He had consent so whats the problem. If he wanted to shit on them thats their business
austin M I can see yo don’t think very deep. You can be in a situation on your own accord and still feel forced. I can imagine a woman being with him having fun thinking wow I’m with my idol! This is Loui freaking CK, then he asks the question, can I beat off in front of you. As a man we think just leave, but the way people handle tense situations especially when feeling inferior is going to vary. And I can see women just going with it on sheer fear and mixed emotions in an atmosphere they would never predicted would have happened, Louie has a power because of who he is that he has to be more responsible with. Like I said it’s not a huge deal but he did something wrong. Bottom line, if he didn’t do anything wrong, nothing would have happened it’s that simple.
@@franciscososa3441 They went back to his fucking hotel room late at night you moron. What situation did they think was going arise? A friendly cup of tea and some banter?
This court exists. It's called "The Court of Public Opinion".
Va Vo No, we actual courts in this country. You know, like one where you’re able to face your accusers with a judge and a jury of your peers.
Yeah, that's called vigilantism.
@@danh4724 as far as iv'e understod he didn't do any thing illigal. What he did was damage his image, which he needs to be successful as a celebrity.
He f'****ed up and has to live with the consequences, what he did isn't stoping him from changing carers, it's not a human right to be a comedian or a celebrity.
Diffrent jobs requier diffrent skils and personal traits, it just so happens that jerking off whenever your alone in the rom with someone is not a desirable trait when part of your job is to be liked.
Arturo Fair enough. Nobody is stopping him from releasing material on his own or continue touring where people will book him.
But as far as all these metoo cases, if somebody does something illegal, then women should go to the police and hash it out in the legal system. Otherwise, there are just accusations of wrongdoing and smearing.
@@danh4724 I agree
Kyle Dunnigan nailed Maher impression so well I thought it was the real one!
Joe Rogan needs to get Charlie Sheen on his podcast...that’ll be fun
Eric Barnard That would be great. We could get the real story on him leaving “Two and a Half Men” and also his actions leading him to where he is now.
Alexander James-Palmer exactly! And so much more
Eric Barnard fascinating!
ABSOLUTELY!!!😎✌
There are podcasts with charlie sheen explaining these things actually. It was pretty good. Sheen would be one of the best guests joe ever had imo
I'm being a little unfair as I haven't listened to the whole podcast but, Bill has to have an audience clapping to help break up his monologue
James Smith Yeah. 30 of ingrained habit.
Louis C.K.’s SNL episode where he did the “Last Call” sketch had me laughing so hard I was crying. That guy is a brilliant comedian.
Steven Taylor Is that the one where he talks about child molesters? That bit was brilliant!
TipTheScales27 Not sure if it was the same one but that bit you mentioned was brilliant. He has a way of tap dancing around a dangerous topic and getting lots of laughs doing it.
It was with consent. Period. End of story.
onee Yeah, but he was in a position of power to the women professionally, so it put them in a bind. Not a cool thing to do, but nowhere close to sexual assault.
@@brainmind4070 that's like saying that if a popular musician hooks up with an aspiring musician (even back stage) consent can't be made because there is a power dynamic -one being popular with resources/connections and the other without-. The aspiring musician's career would not have ended because they said 'no'; though it's fair to say it may not take off in the same way. Furthermore, not all forms of employment operate in the same medium. In this case, there was no discrete promotion or demotion to be had. By giving verbal consent, but not actually "meaning it" their behavior is just sycophantic when viewed through the lens of power dynamics.
This is true. Another important factor is people keep mentioning "in the workplace" but it was in his own personal hotel room after 2am, and after the 3 of them decided to go into his room following a night of them drinking.
Joe Byrne It really depends on how it happens, but a popular musician abusing his fame to get another aspiring musician to watch him masturbate would be the same deal.
@@brainmind4070 Context matters always, that should go without saying. Regardless, as joe Rogan said it is not sexual assault. It's not even indecent exposure because they gave verbal consent. If I asked you for money and you willingly gave it to me - but you didnt really want to and were just uncomfortable with me asking- did steal from you? No.
Now add a power dynamic into it, but I haven't promised you anything whether it be reward or punishment. It's still not stealing. It's still not a crime, nor should it be.