In this video I tested. 3 batteries for electronic furniture. They ranged from $80 to $230. Each said they would last 30-days before needing a recharge. Here are my results.
Very welcome Dan. I had never known about them either until we moved into the house and panicked about what I was going to do about my double recliner. Then I breathed a sigh of relief. I appreciate the comment sir.
You can only compare Wh (watt hours) for different batteries. mAh ratings are only comparable for batteries at the same voltage. Furniture batteries are 24V to 30V and 2500 mAh gives you around 50 to 70 Wh (watt hours). Those USB battery packs are only 5V (or less), so those huge 42,000mAh ratings are divided by 5 to 10 depending on the voltage for this application.
Wow...we were considering these when moved, but I'm thinking of just selling the furniture and going manual. It really depends on the house we buy. My wife likes these open floor-plans and many of them don't have the floor outlets.
This was something I completely missed when we were building. Now, I am still suffering with changing batteries. I will probably move to a non powered too when we replace this one. Only “problem” is we bought a good one and it may go a lot longer. Lol. Thanks for the comment Harold. I do hope you will help me out with subscribing if you have not already. Thank you so much. Hope you find other helpful content. Thanks again sir.
Very useful comparison, the battery pack on my single seat recliner is starting to lose capacity since a year ago, when I first bought this pack (2012) it used to last 3 weeks or so but nowadays is half that , after seeing the prices of more reliable packs, I've decided to buy the 18650 cells and replace them myself, I have all the necessary tools to do the job but the difference is the quality of the cells I'll be using is much better and with verified 3000mAh capacity. it seems to be the better option.
That's awesome. This one is starting to get weak too. It has to be charged every 3 days or so now. How difficult is it to replace the cells? I have a lot of tools just not sure on the knowledge to due that. Theirs not a lot I am intimidated by but anything electrical is where I lose confidence.
@@DadsGarageDIY I would watch a few videos on how to make e bike batteries, you also will need a spot welder but the actual, nickel strips,etc. job of replacing the cells is not hard at all.
@@DadsGarageDIY I understand your reluctance , but it is easier than you think ,BTW, your video is 2 years old so I assume you changed the battery pack around then, I expected a much longer life from that battery pack than 2 years , mine lasted 6-8 years before it started to get weak. the brand was KAIDI Electric. I'm not sure if they are still around. maybe it's worth looking for a better manufacturer. best of luck.
Great video, thanks for the info. I just bought two batteries for my 2 sofas. Have you found one where you can track the life of the battery of your phone through an app? I think that would be really good
I love the thing. Especially the head rest part. The leg part I don’t really care one way or the other because it’s a little slow. But be able to adjust your head is just a must.
These batteries are designed as a power failure/battery backup. If you lose AC power to your home while reclined, then you have no way to get out of the chair except to climb out/fall out. The battery allows you to lower the chair to its regular position so you can get out of it. Lazy-boy has a small battery in some of their chairs just for this reason. Choosing a different size battery pack would be based on how big your recliner(s) are and how long your power outages typically last.
Hi Stephen. These batteries are actually for either purpose. They can be used as a backup for a power outage but their main purpose is to be used as a replacement for 110v. In my case as with many people we have a power recliner that doesn't sit near a wall and options are limited. Anyway, I really appreciate you watching and the comment. Hope to hear more from you on this and/or other videos.
The Lazy-boy battery pack says that a sofa with 2 recliners will require 2 battery packs. But the sofa only has one electric plug-in. Do you know if this is true?
Hi Annie. I don't have a Lazy-boy. So, I really can't say. But, mine has only 1 place for a power source. Not quite sure how it could if when you plug it in directly to the wall it only has 1 plug. But, maybe we will get lucky and someone else can chime in that has a Lazy-boy. Thanks Annie. Sorry I wan't able to help more.
After 3 years , how is your true motion P50 battery pack performing? Any issues? I am about to place an order on Amazon , before I do it, could you provide some feedback? It will be highly appreciated.
Just died about 6 months ago. Ugh! I can't recall when I did this video. It went a while. But wish it had gone longer. I talked to my furniture store and they said they could get me one that would last longer. But $150??? Ouch.
If you only got 11 days, I am wondering if your recliner has a USB port which is a constant drain even if not charging a phone or tablet. My new recliner arrives tomorrow and first thing I'll do is locate the USB power supply and disconnect that. And eventually maybe add a switch, but first of all, I will disconnect it. Can you tell me if my guess is correct? I would like to know! Thx!
Mine does have usb ports but I have never used them. Now that the kids have moved out the battery lasted a little longer. I have now gone through a few more that will no longer charge. I'm tired of buying batteries and I'm now just running the cord across the floor and hoping not to trip. When I get another one I'm going to try one from my furniture store that I got the recliner from. He assured me his would last longer per charge and in general than these that I'm getting on Amazon. Please let me know how what you get and how it goes for you.
@@toddswisher It is pretty good. It's the best of the ones I've tried. But I would try a different one. 12-18 months just isn't reasonable for the cost in my opinion.
So you guys that have a lot of battery powered tools, why didn't you just buy the AC/DC adapter for the battery? A M-18 battery 12 AH is equivalent to 12000 mah. You already have the batteries so why no use them instead? Seems like it would work well if not better!
@Jason Padgett I am trying to find a work around so my grandmother can have powered recliners in a living room with very few outlets. Can you explain this a little more? I would like to know if this would work for us, what to get and how to set it up for her. Thanks in advance!
I thought this was a great idea so I looked into it. Unfortunately, Milwaukee's Top-Off inverter automatically times out after a period of inactivity. You have to push a button to turn it on, so not an ideal solution for a recliner.
I just bought a lazy boy recliner that also has two USB ports. My couch doesn’t have a switch to turn these off. I’ve read that just having the USB ports even though not in use will draw more from the battery. If this isn’t true I don’t have problem getting one of these batteries, as I figure if I really want to use the USB ports I’ll just unplug the battery and switch directly to cord while I’m using them. But I don’t want to buy a battery if just having the USB ports is going to drain the battery. How long will these batteries last for couches having a non switch off USB ports ?
Hi Brandon. Mine also has the USB's. I have forbid anyone from using them because I know the battery life will even be worse if they use them. Some of the batteries have like a little disconnect that you can pull up between a cushion. That way you can "kill" the battery power while you are not using it. I have never tried it. It seemed too inconvenient. I still to this day cycle 2 batteries so I always have one ready.
I'm not sure if I missed it but did you mention what kind of recliner you are using these batteries with? Is it a single seater recliner? A love seat with 2 recliners? A sectional?
That is a very good question. I think for 1 they are quite large. For 2 (I may be wrong) I wouldn't expect one to last very long on a charge. Even a fairly large UPS like the CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD says it will only stay up for 12 minutes at a half load. I would think those chair motors would draw a lot since they are lifting a body. I don't know though. I am just thinking out loud. I think this is a great question zanzibar. If I had one I would test it. Although, they are so large I would have to lift my couch in order to slide it under. That's some great thinking. I really appreciate the thoughts.
That's exactly what I did with an APC 850 VA. But when I charged it up, it got very warm. And I do not want something that could potentially overheat in my 90-year-old father's assisted living apartment. I bought a P25 instead, since we only need it for power outages and we'll keep it charged up all the time.
When I used the limoss power pack it only lifted my head rest at the initial connection and did operate nothing after that. Are you connecting to a single recliner or dual?
The problem is a light, USB port, or some other feature in the furniture (even if not used). Contact Enouvation & they will get you set up where the battery actually will last months.
@@DadsGarageDIY yep. They can constantly drain power even if they are not used. Send them an email with pics of your furniture & buttons. I can almost guarantee they can get it resolved. My recliner battery lasts about 6 months between recharges.
@@DadsGarageDIY I use the E6 (6000mAh). I also use one of the “power saver” devices that disable the USB and eliminate that draw. It actually last 9+ months on my recliner but was advised by them to recharge every 6 months.
Thanks for the video, just learned about these batteries today, at a furniture store.
Very welcome Dan. I had never known about them either until we moved into the house and panicked about what I was going to do about my double recliner. Then I breathed a sigh of relief. I appreciate the comment sir.
You can only compare Wh (watt hours) for different batteries. mAh ratings are only comparable for batteries at the same voltage. Furniture batteries are 24V to 30V and 2500 mAh gives you around 50 to 70 Wh (watt hours). Those USB battery packs are only 5V (or less), so those huge 42,000mAh ratings are divided by 5 to 10 depending on the voltage for this application.
Great information. Thank you!
If you have a basement, It may be cheaper in the long run to have an electrician to install a floor outlet with brass cover.
I agree. Mine would cost a small fortune breaking up the tile, etc.
Wow...we were considering these when moved, but I'm thinking of just selling the furniture and going manual. It really depends on the house we buy. My wife likes these open floor-plans and many of them don't have the floor outlets.
This was something I completely missed when we were building. Now, I am still suffering with changing batteries. I will probably move to a non powered too when we replace this one. Only “problem” is we bought a good one and it may go a lot longer. Lol. Thanks for the comment Harold. I do hope you will help me out with subscribing if you have not already. Thank you so much. Hope you find other helpful content. Thanks again sir.
Very useful comparison, the battery pack on my single seat recliner is starting to lose capacity since a year ago, when I first bought this pack (2012) it used to last 3 weeks or so but nowadays is half that , after seeing the prices of more reliable packs, I've decided to buy the 18650 cells and replace them myself, I have all the necessary tools to do the job but the difference is the quality of the cells I'll be using is much better and with verified 3000mAh capacity. it seems to be the better option.
That's awesome. This one is starting to get weak too. It has to be charged every 3 days or so now. How difficult is it to replace the cells? I have a lot of tools just not sure on the knowledge to due that. Theirs not a lot I am intimidated by but anything electrical is where I lose confidence.
@@DadsGarageDIY I would watch a few videos on how to make e bike batteries, you also will need a spot welder but the actual, nickel strips,etc. job of replacing the cells is not hard at all.
@@ddistrbd1 Got ya. That’s out of my league then. Really appreciate you!
@@DadsGarageDIY I understand your reluctance , but it is easier than you think ,BTW, your video is 2 years old so I assume you changed the battery pack around then, I expected a much longer life from that battery pack than 2 years , mine lasted 6-8 years before it started to get weak. the brand was KAIDI Electric. I'm not sure if they are still around. maybe it's worth looking for a better manufacturer. best of luck.
@@ddistrbd1 Yeah. You never know what you are getting with Amazon. Really appreciate you and hope that we have another conversation on another video.
Thanks for the video. This was very informative
Thank you so much Vesta. I really appreciate it!
Great video, thanks for the info. I just bought two batteries for my 2 sofas. Have you found one where you can track the life of the battery of your phone through an app? I think that would be really good
Thanks Alex. I have not found one that does that. That would be nifty though.
My recliner runs on arm power. I definitely would like one that runs on a battery.
I love the thing. Especially the head rest part. The leg part I don’t really care one way or the other because it’s a little slow. But be able to adjust your head is just a must.
These batteries are designed as a power failure/battery backup. If you lose AC power to your home while reclined, then you have no way to get out of the chair except to climb out/fall out. The battery allows you to lower the chair to its regular position so you can get out of it. Lazy-boy has a small battery in some of their chairs just for this reason. Choosing a different size battery pack would be based on how big your recliner(s) are and how long your power outages typically last.
Hi Stephen. These batteries are actually for either purpose. They can be used as a backup for a power outage but their main purpose is to be used as a replacement for 110v. In my case as with many people we have a power recliner that doesn't sit near a wall and options are limited. Anyway, I really appreciate you watching and the comment. Hope to hear more from you on this and/or other videos.
The Lazy-boy battery pack says that a sofa with 2 recliners will require 2 battery packs. But the sofa only has one electric plug-in. Do you know if this is true?
Hi Annie. I don't have a Lazy-boy. So, I really can't say. But, mine has only 1 place for a power source. Not quite sure how it could if when you plug it in directly to the wall it only has 1 plug. But, maybe we will get lucky and someone else can chime in that has a Lazy-boy. Thanks Annie. Sorry I wan't able to help more.
After 3 years , how is your true motion P50 battery pack performing? Any issues? I am about to place an order on Amazon , before I do it, could you provide some feedback? It will be highly appreciated.
Just died about 6 months ago. Ugh! I can't recall when I did this video. It went a while. But wish it had gone longer. I talked to my furniture store and they said they could get me one that would last longer. But $150??? Ouch.
If you only got 11 days, I am wondering if your recliner has a USB port which is a constant drain even if not charging a phone or tablet. My new recliner arrives tomorrow and first thing I'll do is locate the USB power supply and disconnect that. And eventually maybe add a switch, but first of all, I will disconnect it. Can you tell me if my guess is correct? I would like to know! Thx!
Mine does have usb ports but I have never used them. Now that the kids have moved out the battery lasted a little longer. I have now gone through a few more that will no longer charge. I'm tired of buying batteries and I'm now just running the cord across the floor and hoping not to trip. When I get another one I'm going to try one from my furniture store that I got the recliner from. He assured me his would last longer per charge and in general than these that I'm getting on Amazon. Please let me know how what you get and how it goes for you.
@@DadsGarageDIY the ports are syphoning power even if not used. It's a moot point for you though now that you plug it in.
You don't recommend the p50?
@@toddswisher Interesting. I didn't know that.
@@toddswisher It is pretty good. It's the best of the ones I've tried. But I would try a different one. 12-18 months just isn't reasonable for the cost in my opinion.
So you guys that have a lot of battery powered tools, why didn't you just buy the AC/DC adapter for the battery? A M-18 battery 12 AH is equivalent to 12000 mah. You already have the batteries so why no use them instead? Seems like it would work well if not better!
Yeah, that is a great idea. I did this video way before I had any Milwaukee. That really is a great thought though. I appreciate the input Jason.
@Jason Padgett I am trying to find a work around so my grandmother can have powered recliners in a living room with very few outlets. Can you explain this a little more? I would like to know if this would work for us, what to get and how to set it up for her. Thanks in advance!
I thought this was a great idea so I looked into it. Unfortunately, Milwaukee's Top-Off inverter automatically times out after a period of inactivity. You have to push a button to turn it on, so not an ideal solution for a recliner.
I just bought a lazy boy recliner that also has two USB ports. My couch doesn’t have a switch to turn these off. I’ve read that just having the USB ports even though not in use will draw more from the battery. If this isn’t true I don’t have problem getting one of these batteries, as I figure if I really want to use the USB ports I’ll just unplug the battery and switch directly to cord while I’m using them. But I don’t want to buy a battery if just having the USB ports is going to drain the battery. How long will these batteries last for couches having a non switch off USB ports ?
Hi Brandon. Mine also has the USB's. I have forbid anyone from using them because I know the battery life will even be worse if they use them. Some of the batteries have like a little disconnect that you can pull up between a cushion. That way you can "kill" the battery power while you are not using it. I have never tried it. It seemed too inconvenient. I still to this day cycle 2 batteries so I always have one ready.
Would it run a sofa with usa lights
Very good question. I have no idea. I can’t imagine it running lights for long since it’s a constant draw.
I'm not sure if I missed it but did you mention what kind of recliner you are using these batteries with? Is it a single seater recliner? A love seat with 2 recliners? A sectional?
Great question. I don’t believe I did. It is a double recliner.
Does your recliner have a USB port or is it just the recliner motor?
It does have the usb ports. Never used. But, they are there. About to do a video on replacing the switch.
Just curious couldn't you just use a normal battery pack with a 110 outlet on it that has 42,000 mah and slide that under the couch last a lot longer?
Very good thinking. I don't know why it wouldn't work. Let me know if you try it. Changing batteries every 7-10 days is wearing me out.
Hi Robert. Have you tried this? How did this work for you? Thanks in advance for your help!
@@DadsGarageDIY Hello! Did you try this out? Or have you figured out a way to make your batteries last longer? Thanks in advance for your help!
@@pazhesgarden8806 I didn’t. I am trying to wrap my head around this. If you figure out something please let me know.
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Good Info!
Do you know what the output voltage from the power pack to the motor is?
Thank you so much. Hope it was helpful. I really do not know the answer to that. I'm sorry I don't.
Limoss pack power supply is 25.2v 1800 mAh 45 Wyh. Input charge us 24-35v
so why not just hook the power cord of the chair to a ups battery like for computers?
That is a very good question. I think for 1 they are quite large. For 2 (I may be wrong) I wouldn't expect one to last very long on a charge. Even a fairly large UPS like the CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD says it will only stay up for 12 minutes at a half load. I would think those chair motors would draw a lot since they are lifting a body. I don't know though. I am just thinking out loud. I think this is a great question zanzibar. If I had one I would test it. Although, they are so large I would have to lift my couch in order to slide it under. That's some great thinking. I really appreciate the thoughts.
That's exactly what I did with an APC 850 VA. But when I charged it up, it got very warm. And I do not want something that could potentially overheat in my 90-year-old father's assisted living apartment.
I bought a P25 instead, since we only need it for power outages and we'll keep it charged up all the time.
How many cycles? I.e. how many times did you recline up and down?
Very good question. My guess would be 15 per day. Just a guess.
When I used the limoss power pack it only lifted my head rest at the initial connection and did operate nothing after that. Are you connecting to a single recliner or dual?
Hi Real. It is a double recliner.
@@DadsGarageDIY so it operates the head rest and leg portion...... I wonder was my battery pack bad or user error lol.
@@realrell8936 Correct it runs both.
The problem is a light, USB port, or some other feature in the furniture (even if not used). Contact Enouvation & they will get you set up where the battery actually will last months.
That's great advice. I do have the USB ports but I won't let anyone use them. I will look them up and get with them. Thanks Daniel.
@@DadsGarageDIY yep. They can constantly drain power even if they are not used. Send them an email with pics of your furniture & buttons. I can almost guarantee they can get it resolved. My recliner battery lasts about 6 months between recharges.
@@danielpeper2231 Man, that is awesome! Which battery do you have?
@@DadsGarageDIY I use the E6 (6000mAh). I also use one of the “power saver” devices that disable the USB and eliminate that draw. It actually last 9+ months on my recliner but was advised by them to recharge every 6 months.
@@DadsGarageDIY they are also about 1/2 the size & weight of that 500mAh battery you have.
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Hi Joshua. Thanks for watching.