The spread of R1a associated with the migration of the Slavs and Corded Ware culture
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- This episode shows the spread of paternal DNA Haplogroup R1a in Central and Eastern Europe. In particular, among the subclades of R1a, it includes the diffusion process of Z282, particularly related to Scandinavian and Proto-Slavic.
Modern day Croatia was named after White Croats who settled there in the 7th century and in the 8th century from ancient pagan state of White Croatia.
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Did White Croatia meant North Croatia?
You're like the only channel that's still touching content of this field on youtube, really appreciate it
Thanks
@@geonomad1 strange thig is that R1a is in Iceland too. How they get there?
Liam Ben David has also done similar videos concerning DNA and haplogroups, same with Egyptologist7
@@881terror depends on when the subclad branched off (when's the most recent common ancestor?)
@@jack8805 R1 splited before long time ago but Iceland was discovered in 9 century. The first viking must have R1a, I1 and R1b Y-DNA. That means the Vikings wasnt only nordics but west-Celtic and east-Slavic europeans too
So Corded Ware / Battle axe culture is ancestral to Scandinavian and Slavic cultures?
Corded Ware is probably largely synonymous with indoeuropean language group, hence ancestral to most later european cultures.
@@user-bt7my8tx4m They are not identical to Indo-Europeans.
It is part of Indo-European cultures.
Also the paleo-Balkan cultures. The Thracians spoke Balto-Slavic language.
@@TheGarrymoore i'm interested in the area's of Polabia, mainly the island of Arkona/Rugia/Rügen as the Slavs lived there, Germanic people lived there but the name isn't Slavic nor Germanic, the name Arkona/Rugia/Rana does sound similair to ancient Ethruscan namings in southern Europe
Corded Ware was genetically ancestral to Italics, Celts, Germanics, Balto-Slavs and Indo-Iranians
R1a haplogroup domesticated the horse. It is the most intelligent haplogroup ever existed.
Yeah, bro!))
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don't laugh. look at russia which beat all the stupid western countries@@maximesafronov4870
Even if you were to be proven right about (y)our genetic brethren being super smart way back when, you would be wrong as that pertained yourself, as boasting is not smart at all. Nor is bragging about something you never achieved yourself, like being born. Genetic potential must be realized by cultivating it. A more comprehensive definition of intelligence than what is measured by I.Q. tests would factor in having social graces like using smart communication practices.
@@Grizzlekidizzle the smaller the number, the greater the ancestral connection.....czcams.com/video/UiId2ZNWHzg/video.html
The high concentration of I2a1b-L621 in north-east Romania, Moldova and central Ukraine reminds of the maximum spread of the Cucuten > Trypillian culture(4800-3000 BCE). No Y-DNA sample from this culture has been tested to date, but as it evolved as an offshoot from the Starčevo-Kőrös-Criş culture, it is likely that I2a was one of its main paternal lineages, and a founder effect could have increased considerably its frequency. The Cucuten > Trypillian culture was the most advanced Neolithic culture in Europe before the Indo-European invasions in the Bronze Age and seems to have had intensive contacts with the Steppe culture before the expansion of Yamna to the Balkans and Central Europe (see histories of R1a and R1b). From 3500 BCE, at the onset of the Yamna period in the Pontic-Caspian Steppe, the Cucuten > Trypillian people started expanding east into the steppe of what is now western Ukraine, leaving their towns (the largest in the world at the time), and adopting an increasingly nomadic lifestyle like their Yamna neighbours. It can easily be imagined that Cucuten > Trypillian people became assimilated by the Yamna neighbours and that they spread as a minority lineage alongside haplogroups R1a and R1b as they advanced toward the Baltic with the Corded Ware expansion. Alternatively, I2-L621 lineages could have lived in relative isolation from the mainstream Proto-Indo-European society somewhere around Ukraine, Poland or Belarus, then as the centuries and millennia passed, would have blended with the predominantly R1a populations around them. The resulting amalgam would have become the ancestors of the Proto-Slavs.
The Eastern Slavs lived for millennia in relative isolation being the seven tribes. They unlike other Europeans lived in small villages of 50 people among wolves, bears, bison and boar which made these people independant and very tough so much so they hated any form of centralised government. This was a disadvantage in later years as they could not organise any resistance against invaders. In 700 AD the Slavs migrated West and South and even besieged Constantinople in 625 so vast were their numbers.
@@Jakez408 We should take all this with a grain of salt, as remember that many ancient scholars and scribes described other people, especially the one's who were pagan as lesser people or less developed one's even though most of these scholars from let's say Bizancium or Roma or Iberia have never stepped foot in Lithuania or Russia or Poland as the furthest they travelled were most likely border areas like Bulgaria or Serbia
@@Jakez408 Same as how we have no idea how the ancient pre Anglo Saxon Gaels or Picts actually lived, as the most information we have is mostly degratory description from the Romans which wanted to take the lands of the natives there
@@GrzegorzBraunYTOfficial Ancient Greek historians around 800 BC who wrote down " The Iliad" as a poem described the existence of the Eneti ( Veneti) who were allies of the Trojans in the Trojan war but never mentioned from where they came from to join this war. They describe them as living in the North and being tall, handsome and red haired. Veneti is the ancient name for the Slavs. Some European historians say they lived in the Danube basin which fits in with the map shown here that they originated SW of Belarus.The Corded Ware Culture existed in Europe from 5000 and spread SW, NE and SE into Asia. It was the biggest migration into Europe in history and spread the R1a DNA into Europe. This fits into the reality on the ground of the Balto Slavs bring the largest ethnic group in Europe today.
@@Jakez408 i myself am a Slav from Eastern Poland, so i've heard of this, there were also the Aesti most probably Proto Balts or Estonians?
I am Hungarian from NE Hungary, and my Y-DNA is R1a-YP1337. Originally my paternal line can be traced back to Transylvania.
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Language brought Hungarians into this world, but not haplogroups.
@@oleksandrvershygora3346 Sumerian Language = Hungarian Language.............aleximreh.wordpress.com/2015/10/05/sumerian-language-hungarian-language/
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Hungarians are a genetic mix of mainly Slavs and some Avars.
The Hungarian clams that dominated the region were only the elite, not the common people. They spread their language, customs and politics.... But they did not interbreed all that much. They were overlords.
But like most of the French people aren't Frankish descendants by genetics, only cultural.
Fascinating!!! THANK YOU
Nice video. Like those references to the Ancient DNA samples. 👍🏻
Thank you
@@geonomad1 we finns aint slavs
@@geonomad1 first habitants of russia were finns
@@myhonorwasloyalty from what i read N1a and R1a shares alot of history especially in Finno-Ugrics they’ve lived together for thousands of years
FN' nazi propaganda - first, educate yourself about "VINCA CULTURE"... then, about the fact that so called "slavs" - name slavs is the product of vatican...
محتوى في القمة، شكرا.
I would appreciate very much if someone could explain what y-haplogroup was common for Achaeans, the ones who sieged Troy? Scientists say that tribe was originated from Catacomb culture. Strange enough but it’s hard to find out its main haploplogroup. Is it R1a-M458 and R1a-Z280? And if it’s so, were Achaeans belonged to these haplogroups? Because it seems a bit odd for me.
I am very sorry that I cannot give you an answer because I do not know the paternal genetic information of the Catacomb culture.
Probably yamnaya descendents... This Horsepeople were wide spread to Europe and Asia too
@@latakicsi2183 But the Yamnaya culture was long before the Catacomb culture. Moreover, its main y-haplogroup was R1b. So, it could be "the cradle" for Dorians but not for Achaeans.
@@geonomad1 I know an anthropologist spe ializing in Bronze Age from the region, maybe some samples can be obtained.
R1a Z93 😑
5:29 According to your own map, Northern Romania was part of the Corded Ware Culture and Romania is part of the Balkans so you should have mentioned that. Something like "with the exception of Romania, the Corded Ware Culture wasn't in the Balkans region".
Corded Ware wasn't in the Balkans according to other maps I've found, including the one in Wikipedia
The map shown in the video is also inaccurate in other areas too
in ENG:
Great video, discussing the topic of Slavic halogroup R1a made in a clear, transparent and quite accurate way. I give a rating of 10/10, good job, thank you for the video!
in PL:
Świetny film, omówienie tematu Słowiańskiej halogrupy R1a wykonane w sposób klarowny, przejrzysty i dość dokładny. Daję ocenę 10/10, dobra robota, dziękuję za film!
FN' nazi propaganda - first, educate yourself about "VINCA CULTURE"... then, about the fact that so called "slavs" - name slavs is the product of vatican...
R1a already existed among the Indo-Europeans.
Az R1a - a szkiták génje - nem slav .....
@@gyulaerdei3180 😂
@@gyulaerdei3180no, there is no such thing as "skif gene"
I have Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>YP237>FGC12681>YP953>YP951>YP977>BY153507
I am a Tatar from the Republic of Tatarstan
I also am from CTS3402 but I am from the U.S. of the state of Arkansas
арийский татарин)
Modern Turkish people are overwhelmingly Middle Eastern and Southern european in origin. Their ancestors were overwhelmingly the Anatolians
A small minority of Turks carry DNA from the Turkic invasions.
Anatonian Turks will never admit this,because their real brothers (Arabs,Armenians, Greeks, Iranians, Kurds ...) consider them enemies,that doesn't match Turk political propaganda😂😂
Agree...they still are Anatolian farmers-Gobekli tepe culture and from big GHIJK family.....most important family.
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@@user-rn6nb2ey7e Old articles or genetic tests are not reliable sources. After 2018, the science of genetics experienced rapid development. Any article that does not use G25 or qpAdm can’t be considered a reliable source. Also most Y-DNA lineages in Turkey are not Anatolian but Central Asian subclades.
@@user-rn6nb2ey7e are you Turkish?
夜行者 is antiTurkish probably kurd
This work is excellent--thank you for the level of detail and graphics. David Reich et al just published an updated genealogy of both modern and ancient genomes, which now extends continental migration timelines. The paper was published in Science titled, "A unified genealogy of modern and ancient genomes"--Would you regard this research valid and relevant to the channel?
Thanks for introducing an exciting thesis. I didn't have full access to the papers and data, so I didn't read them all, but I looked through the Supplementary Materials. I want to do a little more research and make a video.
@@geonomad1 You can bet I'll be watching that video! I was able to view the full paper online, and believe it was downloadable in PDF. The research might just make for some cutting edge content, friend.
FN' nazi propaganda - first, educate yourself about "VINCA CULTURE"... then, about the fact that so called "slavs" - name slavs is the product of vatican...
R1a is in Iceland too
Yes, they are.
@@881terror would this mean that we Poles might be closer related to Icelanders than to the English?
Thats because Vikings used ot come down to Novgorod and use Volga River as a trade route down to Caspian sea and Persia. They would mix with East slavic(Varyag) or Volga Bulgarians
@@mvarbanoff Volga Bulgars are a mixed ethnic group, so calling them Slavs or 100% Slav is a bit like calling a Ukrainian a Slav even though they have a heavy Turkic admixture
@@GrzegorzBraunYTOfficial Bulgarians are not slavic, never said that. The rest of your statement makes so much nonsence I dont even know what are you talking about.
No, I2 oldest Europeans on Balkans speak also Slavic language. And it was spoken not long before before in wider area: north Greece, Albania, Romania, Hungary, north-east Italy, east Austria and east Germany.
Your language is slavic, your main haplogroup I2a-Din originated in west ukraine/south poland around 100 A.D.
Guess what, it's very present in northern carpathians/moldova, where you came from.
Illyrians major haplogroups were ev13 and j2b and are considered to have mediterranean appearence and tombs all across dalmatia and bosnia show they were mediterranean, aka genetically related to albanians.
Ancient people weren't blond haired blue eyed, they were dark, mediterranean albanian/italian looking.
Take a look a the sicilians, they are dark and 1.78m tall on average, pretty similar to ancient south europeans.
Serbians and croats came to the balkans later, THERE'S NO SHAME IN THAT, you were slavs who arrived here, nothing strange.
Your migration here is documented, and no slavs were present here prior to the 7th century.
Get over it, your recent invented history won't change reality.
@@southepirote7676 I am following haplogroup reasearching from beggining in 00s, before any possible political changings, and "i" haplogroup was oldest European, abour 30.000 years old, emerged on Balkans since in rest of the Europe was ice age. It later migrated to Scandinavia, Britain, Sardinia... Ukraine. Native to Ukraine&Russia area is R1a haplogroup, not "I", and two different haplogroups didnt orginate in same area
@@alexandartheserb7861No. I2 oldest sample was found in Switzerland and in skeleton in Britain old as 13000yrs. It didn't emerged in Balkan and this guy above is albanian and albanians are not Ilyrians
@@southepirote7676 What about romanians? Studies sad the DNA is close to balkan area/serbia.
Veoma dobri podaci. Svaka čast.👍
Aleksa, ajd' ne seri - this is just FN' nazi propaganda - first, educate yourself about "VINCA CULTURE"... then, about the fact that so called "slavs" - name slavs is the product of vatican...
Nagyon rosz...hamis adatok !
..... !!!
@@gyulaerdei3180 miért ne?
A finn-ugor , a szláv , az indo-germán ... a szkita multat veszi át...és hamisitja ..... !
Ezek a csoportok...a szkita hagyatékból élnek... !!!
- így a szkita, hun, (avar) magyar hagyatékból ... ! *
:)
Can you do a video just on CTS1211+?
I have Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>YP237>FGC12681>YP953>YP951>YP977>BY153507
I am a Tatar from the Republic of Tatarstan
are you P278?
"A group of people with YAP insertion migrated from south Asia to Central Asia and reached to the Mediterranean. They gave rise to E lineage (Hammer et al. 1998) with mutations at M40 and M96. The E lineage dispersed to Africa, Middle East, Southen and Eastern Europe. Lineage E1 is predominant over entire Africa and at lesser frequency in Middle East and Europe. This back migration of people to Africa through the Levant is supported by Hammer et al. (1997), Altheide and Hammer (1997), Chandrasekar et al. (2007), Cruciani et al. (2004) and Cabrera et al. (2018). YAP+ E migrated back to Africa with other Eurasian haplogroups, such as lineage RIb]* (18-23 kya) and lineage T (39-45 kya), which has been observed at high frequency in northern Cameroon, and in low frequencies in Africa (Cruciani et al. 2002; Luis et al. 2004)"
~Genomic diversity in people of India : focus on mtDNA and Y-Chromosome polymorphism / Anthropological Survey of India
Publication:
Singapore : Springer, [2021]
@@demetriusbooker5760 Awesome - thank you!
Hello, I have one question:
Does all R1a-Z283 in the Balkans came with Slavic Migrations as a whole, or could some groups brought some percentages of it in the Balkans before the Slavs (e. Goths or Dacians) via assimilation of proto-slavs and migration movements, for example? Could some R1a-M458 and R1a-Z280 came in the Balkans with Gothic, Gepid, Geto-Dacian or Celtic migrations that assimilated Slavs in the movements and then came in the Balkans as part of these other ethnicities? Can we say for sure that every R1a-Z280 and R1a-M458 in the Balkans came with Slavic Migrations, or it's likely just the majority? Eupedia says that R1a-M458 and R1a-Z280 in the Balkans are mostly associated with the Slavic migrations, but 'most' doesn't mean necessarily all of them, right? I know the question might sound weird, but I have some doubts in regards to it. I hope you can help me!
I would like to hear your opinion about it! Thanks in advance!
@MekssWow, interesting! thank you for the info :) Were also some I2a1b-CTS10228 found as well from pre-slavic era like R1a or did I2a1b-din come exclusively with Slavs? I heard that some of it came with Goths or Dacians, Pannoian Vlachs along with some Balto Slavic R1a, in the IV-VI century period. Could it be true? It seems I2a in the Balkans is even more associated with the slavic migration than balto slavic R1a. What do you think?
@Mekss I see, that means that even some I2a in the Balkans is Dacian/Vlach, some is Slavic and some even east Germanic as well. But most of them came with Slavs, over half of it I think.
@@MsSirAndy so far no I-Y3120 has been found outside of the medieval Slavic and Slavic like viking context. On the other hand, we have R-M458 in late Hallstatt, R-M58>L1029>YP263 in Czechia La Tene, and R-M458 in Hungary La Tene. Including R-Z280 in La Tene. The Hallstatt and Czech samples were predominantly Italo-Celtic, and Celto-Germanic with 25-30% iron age Ingrian-like ancestry and the Hungary La Tene sample was predominantly Balto-Slavic like. It seems that these 3 lineages converged/coalesced together and bottlenecked and had founder effects as a result of the Slavic migrations.
@@hamitkoci4286 That means that one part of the balto-slavic R1a in the balkans came with non-slavic people, while for I-Y3120 we should wait for more samples, but it's still a possibility that some of it could come with non slavs (slavs who were assimilated with other movements)
Dacians and Ostrogoths for example would good candidates for spreading pre-slavic I2a-Y3120 CTS10228 and R1a-Z280 in the Balkans, as well as Celts too from LaTene that you mentioned with R1a-M458. I mean they spread it via assimilations, despite these lineages having proto-slavic origins.
@@MsSirAndy I still think R1a were not proper Celtic. I think M458 were Pomeranian Culture and represent a intermediary group that may have been part of East La Tene movements which also overlapped with Dacians. And probably were in South Poland and mingling with the survivors if Z280 ND Y3120 to create the Slavs. It just seems in the Iron Age they were more versatile and could prepresent geneflow to Eastern Celts prior to their inclusion in the Slavic ethnogenesis which may well represent the breaking away of Slavs from a Southern Baltic tribe in the time if the Zarubintsy culture. With Y3120 and M458 being the 2 ingredients mixed with Z280(Balto-Slavs proper) which resulted in the symbiosis that would become the Slavs. Even Y3120 was not originally Balto-Slavic. However, we have no evidence ancient DNA wise outside a Slavic context.
You can’t use the modern country names for this. Prussia existed until 78 years ago, so these genetic markers spread and influenced that region.
The Proto and Early Slavs have expanded with the haplogroups I2a1b-Din, R1a-M458, R1a-M417, R1a-M558, and R1a-Z283. There are no pre-Slavic I2a1b-Din findings, and the totality of I2a1b-Din finds are Early and Medieval Slavs and the vast majority are found north, not south of the Danube. There are more I2a1b-Din historical Slavic findings than R1a historical Slavic findings, and outside the South Slavic landmass, I2a1b-Din forms a major lineage in Ukraine, Romania, Moldova, Cont. Greece, Belarus, Slovakia, and southeastern Poland.
I2a1b-Din i.e. especially branch I-Y3120 (mostly present in today's Serbs and Croats) is historically associated with Bastrani tribe of Celtic/Germani ancestry.
When I2a arrived among local R1a population, proto-Slavs were created and they started expanding to north, west, and south.
@@NekoImeni No, it is not, there are no pre-Slavic I2a1b-Din findings, and the mutation itself emerged in Belarus, therefore it cannot be Northern, let alone Western Germanic in origin.
It is the most present among Croats, Bosnian Muslims, and Serbs because of its concentration, whereas in sheer numbers, and even comparable concentration, it is one of the major lineages in Ukraine, Romania, Belarus, Southeastern Poland, and southwestern Russia. Furthermore, its highest diversity of clades is found in the Belarus-Poland-Ukraine triangle. I suggest all self-loathing Slavs stop LARPing as extinct non-Slavs, first it was Illyrians, and now it's the Bastarnae, talk about desperate and pitiful.
@@numenoreaneternity6682 Do you claim I2-Y3120 (I2a1b-Din came from another planet?
Just a reality check : No need for hard feelings. Slavs were created not so long ago, from different haplogroups population, living for some time in same area.... Previous and after, migrations happened.
I2-Y3120 was present in Bastranae people, which were Celtic of Germanic, for sure. One branch of I2-Y3120 came to Greece as Bastranae (it is present in Greece and across Balkan even today), and other branch (also Bastranae) moved and mixed with R1a, to create proto-Slavic, from that branch I2-PH908 emerged (present among South Slavs with TMRCA only 1700 ybp).
@@NekoImeni The lineage that you're referring to, I-Y81696, is a rare lineage on the verge of extinction and it's Y3120's sister clade, the same goes for the rare lineage found in Greece which is downstream of Y3120. YFull is very clear on the matter, Y3120's TMRCA is set to only 2200 years in Belarus, not Northern or Western Europe, and it's a founder-effect Y-DNA, to boot. To this day, all of the archaeogenetic I2a1b-Din samples are found among Early and Medieval Slavs, and the Y-DNA is absent among tested East Germanic cultures (Wielbark, Kowalenko) and it's even absent in the Tollense culture which is Proto-Germanic, and ancestral to the Bastarnae, who were, at least originally, Germanic in origin.
The only one in need of a reality check is you, stop LARPing as dead ethnicities, or worse, attributing a Proto-Slavic lineage to dead ethnicities.
@@numenoreaneternity6682 I-Y18331 ? What about that Bastarnae branch? "Accidentally" skipped.
Bastarnae were Celtic or Germanic.... or most likely Celtic, but they Germanized.... And then they were mixed with local R1a population north of Black Sea, and Proto-Slav mass were created.
Just a fun fact, Proto-Slavic were not created by God, but from different group of people, of different haplogroups, and they belonges to different people, different tribes, different languages backgrounds etc..... I believe you are a Nazi, but Slavic-Nazi :) :) lol
Steppe: let me tell some slovaks think only the hungarians arrived from the steppe. They arrived too. As almost everyone.
I’m R1a-L176. Very cool video. Thanks!
Akkor illene tudnod, hogy az
R 1 a 1 - Scita gén ....... !
:)
I am a Serb and I do not have a Slavic haplogroupe :(
I am a Serb and I have the one that is common among Slavs. Which haplogroup you belong to?
@@drazenbuvac8262 E V13
dont worry majority of slavic speaking people not slavic desendents by dnas/genes...
R1a1a1b1a1(R-M458)-Slavs R1a1a1b1a1a (R-L260)-Western Slavs/Poles
@@latakicsi2183 especially South Slavs
@@petarswift5089 R1a is present among Serbs in about 12-14%. Serbs are descendants of old Balkan population (Illyrians, Tracians, Dardanians etc) mixed with incoming Slavs.
More than 52% of Serbian genetics is Slavic.....and more than 32% Serbs have old Balkan haplogroups (E, J, R1b) and also post-Slavic (G, C, N etc)..... That's why Serbs are tall and strong, and have dark hair :)
Like, Hungarians have more Slavic R1a, than South-Slavs (except Slovenians, which have higher percent of R1a).
Name any haplogroup as slavic is wrong. Specially 2-5000 years ago. Specially that it is a main component of all western non-slavic ethnic groups. They were the corded ware culture, possible the Yamnay culture too, because they were very similar.
It is not wrong .5000 years ago only Slavs exsist in Europa.Germans separated from Slavs long time afther .
@@mikimladenovic6845Hahaha. 😂
@kashmirha Thank you, you are right. 👍
@@mikimladenovic6845not true Germanic languages appeared a century or two before the Slavic ones. It was more of an equal split from previous branch than a derivation from one or the other.
@@mikimladenovic6845True. Hi...er thought of Germans as Aryans even though we are much closer to the original Arya people alongaide the Balts
I2b was also prevalent among the early slavs... hence its high percentages in the balkans (in the exact places where historiography shows slavs settled)
FN' nazi propaganda - first, educate yourself about "VINCA CULTURE"... then, about the fact that so called "slavs" - name slavs is the product of vatican...
I2 is slavic
А откуда они переселялись на Балканы?!! Не из Тартарии случайно - современной России?) но вам же об этом никто не расскажет)))😅
@@Nataly79797, Википедия расскажет)
The first people, called Slavs, were the Thracian tribe Getae. A small but important detail.
Very intense presentation that encompasses a lot of time and intermingling of peoples.
I am lead to wonder what "covid vaccines" are truly for, presently. Especially, since "covid" is a manmade mutation.
Greetings from R-M458
sir:- please also tell about Y haplogroup L SNPs( M11, M20 )
L-M20 is an ancient paternal haplogroup. They were estimated to be born between 30,000 and 40 million years ago in Western or South Asia.
@@geonomad1 thousand I think you mean as in early Homo sapiens. Nice channel btw keep it up.
@@brucealbert4686 Thank you.
@@geonomad1 is it the original haplogroup of indus valley civilization
Are you sure about R1a or and R1b ? Do you mixing both don ´t you ?
Lithuanians say they are not Slavs contrary to scientific evidence.
@robertolang9684 Lithuanians 35% R1a Y1337 same as Slovenians, only Slovenes have Celtic, Danubian and Lombard whilst Lithuanians have 30% Uralic. This is what makes all Europeans different yet similar and also variations in culture. But Russians drink vodka and have barbecues just like us except we drink a spirit made from juniper from the Alps.
They are Para-Slavic aka Baltic
@robertolang9684 most South Slavs have Paleo-European haplos rather than Corded Ware 😊
@robertolang9684even Rurik dynasty had a Finnic paternal lineage, also not to forget Romanovs were non-Balto-Slavic R1B derived.
Haplogroup I2a1a2b-L621, or to be precise, its subclade Y3120, is often considered as another “Slavic” haplogroup (beside R1a- Z282), which is wrong and scientifically inadmissible. The criterion of coherence is unambiguous: “Individuals from genetically distinguishable groups should not be given the same name; individuals from genetically indistinguishable ones should.” 1 And so is the criterion of logic: If not a single clade before Y3120, or at the same level as Y3120 was/is Slavic, or of Slavic origin, how could anything after Y3120 be Slavic, or of Slavic origin??? Haplogroups are a genetic, and not a geographical, linguistic, national, or social category. This means that they cannot be designated in compliance with the language their carriers speak, the country they live in, or religion they practice... Each haplogroup denotes a common paternal origin of the people who share it, and they all belong to the same ethno-genetic group which has had its own evolution.
I haplogroups are Nordic
@@AminAkbari-q9rall of them are Paleo-European not Germanic, Slavic or else
About 60,000 years ago, C2D1 entered East Asia, and C1 entered Southeast Asia
About 40,000 years ago,K2 split into MNOPQRS entered East Asia and Siberia from Southeast Asia
SM remained in Southeast Asia
NO remained in East Asia
PQR remained in Siberia
About 30,000 years ago, QR separated
About 20,000 years ago R went to Europe and Q went to America
Therefore, Native Americans:Q1 C2 R1
As the climate began warming at around 18,000 years ago, the Beringia region also became more moist and the sea level rose,submerging the land bridge .
About 10,000-15,000 years ago, N1O2 entered Mongolia and mixed with C2Q1R1
About 5000-10000 years ago
Xiongnu/(C2 N1a O2a Q1)+ R1a→Xianbei → Rouran → Turkic Empire →Mongol Empire→ Qing Empire
Mongolian=53,8%C2+10,8%O2+10,8%N1+4,6%P* (xQ,R)+9,2%R1a
Ulch people
34.6%C2(xM48, M407)
34.6% C2b1a2
11.5% O2, 1.9% O1a,1.9% O1b
5.8%Q-M242
5.8%N-M231
Then,proto-Altaic people split into two groups N1a and O2a+C2
1,N1a enter Siberia,they became the Neo-Siberians and Northern tungus (absorb Paleo-Siberians Q1+C2)
2,O2a+C2 enter the Korean peninsula,where they assimilated the earlier inhabitants of the peninsula(O1b).
During the Yayoi period, haplogroup O1b2+O2a started to arrive and spreaded to every region of Japan.
Origin of Japanese: Jomon (D1a2+C1a1) + Korean peninsula /Yayoi (O2a+O1b2).
Korean=42.1%O2a+3.1%O1a+ 12.9%C2+ 3.8 %N1+ 33.4%O1b
+ 1.8%Q1+2.5%D
Janpanese=
15-20%O2a
3-8%C1+C2
3%N1
30-35%O1b
35-40%D
3,Historians believe that the Huns were not a single ethnicity but a confederation-like grouping of Siberian natives(N1a Q1 C2) and Indo-European tribes(R1aR1b,Old European(I )).
The Slavs, Hungarians, Finns are among their descendants.
4,The modern Turkic people are a mixture of Eurasian People. These includes Indo-Iranian and Indo-European tribes of Central Asia who becomes Turkic for 2000 years ago.
"Origin of "Proto-Altaic" language=Turkic+Mongolic+Tungusic+Uralic+Koreanic+Japonic"
R1 dominates Indo-European languages
R1a dominant Slavs + Indo-Iranians (Pashtuns, Iranians, Indians)
R1b dominant Western European
Q dominates Native American,Inuit people, Yenisei people
N dominates Urals and Yakutia
O dominate Japanese Korean Chinese
C2 dominates Mongolian Kazakh Tungusic
Mongoloid people= East Asians, Austronesians, Altaic people (Turkic, Mongolic, and Tungusic speaking people), American Indians/Native Americans
Inuit have 80% Q
Yakutia have 90%N
Korean have 80%O
North Tungusic have 80%C2
They were completely East Asian physical appearance (what used to be called Mongoloid)
Source doesn’t exist🧢
Turkic R1A is undoubtwdly from Buryatia lol, not from your Aryan fantasy :)
Keyser et al. 2020, pp. 1, 8-9. "[O]ur findings confirmed that the Xiongnu had a strongly admixed mitochondrial and Y-chromosome gene pools and revealed a significant western component in the Xiongnu group studied.... [W]e propose Scytho-Siberians as ancestors of the Xiongnu and Huns as their descendants... [E]ast Eurasian R1a subclades R1a1a1b2a-Z94 and R1a1a1b2a2-Z2124 were a common element of the Hun, Avar and Hungarian Conqueror elite and very likely belonged to the branch that was observed in our Xiongnu samples. Moreover, haplogroups Q1a and N1a were also major components of these nomadic groups, reinforcing the view that Huns (and thus Avars and Hungarian invaders) might derive from the Xiongnu as was proposed until the eighteenth century but strongly disputed since... Some Xiongnu paternal and maternal haplotypes could be found in the gene pool of the Huns, the Avars, as well as Mongolian and Hungarian conquerors."
@@papazataklaattiranimam 🤣🤣🤣
@@user-rn6nb2ey7e Old articles or genetic tests are not reliable sources. After 2018, the science of genetics experienced rapid development. Any article that does not use G25 or qpAdm can’t be considered a reliable source.
@@user-rn6nb2ey7e Lol 🤣🤣🤣
Any idea where R-Y2905 fits in?
Lotta banging back then. Were more alike than different.
Great work 👍👍👍
Thank you
Perhaps a video on Haplogroup N in future?
Q and N are in my plan.
Inferior genetics, doesn’t matter
Tucker Haplogroup rm198 < r1a L448 < yp355 < yp609 < r-ft7019 < yp4252 < yp5598 < yp85906 < r-ft124201
Norse to England somewhere between 800ce to 1000 ce
African American with R1a doing research
This video is wrong in so many ways that it's a headache to even unpackage it all. The fact L1029 was just pushed to North East Europe is wrong in so many ways. The highest concentration and diversity of this line is in Poland, East Germany and Czechia. Almost all of it in NE Europe is related to the Polish-Lithuainian Commonwealth. There's also the ancient La Tene sample from Bohemia in Czechia that was L1029 from the Iron Age. There's alot more wrong here.
Poles are the best. Yeah...I said it.
Attention the Slavic genetic heritage among the Serbs, and the rest of the Slavic peoples in the Balkans is very minimal haplogroup R1a, does not exceed 50% in some Slavic countries such as Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina. There are several theories on the original home of the Slavs the last is that of the Danube according to Florin Curta a Romanian historian
@Rusalo4ka-ue1mt
U BiH se nisu mješali sa Turcima.
@Rusalo4ka-ue1mt I2a is not from Ottomans if you meant that. I2a is 1st haplogroup amoung us.
Your language is slavic, your main haplogroup I2a-Din originated in west ukraine/south poland around 100 A.D.
Guess what, it's very present in northern carpathians/moldova, where you came from.
Illyrians major haplogroups were ev13 and j2b and are considered to have mediterranean appearence and tombs all across dalmatia and bosnia show they were mediterranean, aka genetically related to albanians.
Ancient people weren't blond haired blue eyed, they were dark, mediterranean albanian/italian looking.
Take a look a the sicilians, they are dark and 1.78m tall on average, pretty similar to ancient south europeans.
Serbians and croats came to the balkans later, THERE'S NO SHAME IN THAT, you were slavs who arrived here, nothing strange.
Your migration here is documented, and no slavs were present here prior to the 7th century.
Get over it, your recent invented history won't change reality.
@@southepirote7676 You explaining it to me? I already knew that. I'm not claiming that Serbs built Babylon tower or other shizoposting. 🤓
@@southepirote7676 I2 is the oldest haplogroup in Europe, but ethnicities are more than just haplogroups fyi.
EV13 is not present in Dalmatia and Bosnia or at the most barley and recent. Tombs that you mean are Stecci in Bosnia, Dalmatia, Montwnegro and parts of Serbia. Excavation show that they have characteristics of Vlach-Slavic symbiosis.
Concidently none of these tombs are in Albania.
There is no Toponym, Hydronym etc. in the ancient Illyricum that can be explained or derived by Albanian so this theory holds no ground.
Factual is that, Illyrians and their language is dead as the scientific consensus is. They have been conquered and romanized by Romans, suppressed by Goths almost destroyed by Mongols and Turkics and later assimilated by Slavs.
You are not even Epirote since they are Greek and you speak basically a bastard-Romanian.
R1b comes from Africa. Currently the biggest concentration of R1b is in Nigeria. After that is Spain and Portugal. It does explain migration from Africa via the Gibraltar strait.
R1b comes from Eurasia, It's closest relatives are all in Eurasia and basal R has been found among Ancient North Eurasians
The presence of R-V88 in Africa is due to a back-migration
@@Nastya_07 Dream on
@@valamerkozlowski7915 Basal R has been found among Ancient North Eurasians
Also the R1b subclade which now predominates Europe derives from the Pontic steppe and matches with the Indo-European migrations
R1B in Africa came with Natufians before 10-15k years via migrants from lake Baikal.
Haplogroup P (Q+R was originally from far north Siberia, not Africa)
Thanks for a intresting visualisation. I'm on the Scandinavian/Norwegian Viking branch of this R-Z284, (further down the line of R-CTS4179).
P278 anyone?
What is this logarithmic square roots?
Proof that Serbs are not native Kosovo but also Serbia. Serbs homeland is in Carpathian mountains next to their Romanian brothers.
Albanians are older than Slavs in Balkans ofc
@robertolang9684huh😂😂😂😂
my family name "Rivera" comes from the alphs / northern Italy and im RomanMexican "RoMex" so i have a lot of Hispana blood and Visigoth we lived on Slavic border with Ukrain / Romania 300 years two of my family names is Basque us Mexica natives come from Lake Baikal
So eastern and north eastern Iran has slavic gene? No way,as an Iranian thats interesting
Конечно🔥☝️
Kind of. But not really. This video didn't quite show Slavic gene as much as the general east European branch of the Indo-European.
And Iranian is Indo-European... It makes sense.
@Nataly79797 how is that possible,maybe it's because of the Soviet union invasion and 40 gears of occupation
You are very wrong about this ,, early Estland" by the way. This territory was populated after last ice age approximately 10000 years before. And not by Finno-ugric tribes who came much later. Language has nothing to do with genetic origin. Kunda culture was long before cordculture came and it was mostly by trade routs.
same ow this is not right, where was the ice in the last ice age? The ice age finish 13.ooo years ago, did that not influence the way people travel?
in the last ice age nobody travelled, in europe everybody just died out apart from socalled euhuntergathers and only because that group moved to north to iberia
Indeed Corded Ware culture is Slavic culture. However in between 5,2 - 4,8 thousands years ago the culture assimilated Globular Amphora culture, which belonged to native Europeans I2a. Since that time you can meet hapl. I2a in Slavic nations only.
so Slavs are original Aryans in the end?
😂
Slavs are autentic on balkans
My sa Europa.
How do human haplotypes appear suddenly in history?
It began to be applied to history and archeology from the beginning of analyzing the DNA of ancient remains.
in the last 10 years the dna samples 100 timesfold
Thanks. What mutational mechanisms did this, do you think? I mean so many fairly recent (Holocene) haplotypes?
Sanskrit is not an old language - the languages that were actually old in North Indian subcontinent was Prakrit and Pali languages. There is a huge amount of confusion about Prakrit languages. There are 12 major North Indian languages 1, Apabhraṃśa (Prakrit); 2. Ardhamagadhi(Prakrit); 3. Dramili (oldest Prakrit); 4. Elu; 5. Gandhari; 6. Kamarupi; 7. Magadhi; 8. Maharashtri; 9. Paishachi; 10. Pali (also mentioned as Prakrit by some kingdoms); 11. Shauraseni; 12. Khasa. But each language is different and a few are referred as Prakrit language at different times especially the Dramili is the language used in the Ashoka edicts as Prakrit language which is the oldest written record for Pali and Prakrit. Ancient India had used Pali and Prakrit languages in Jainism and Buddhism literatures. Sanskrit is a new language that was created by refining, merging and choosing grammar and verbiage of all these 12 major languages- that’s why there is no record of written Sanskrit in ancient monuments of Jainism and Buddhism in Pali literature which were the oldest religions of Ancient India. Hence the claim to Sanskrits to be old is not proven and even Rig Veda is first written down in 14th century AD and all claims are only verbal and they wrongly point to the written literature records of Prakrit or Pali languages as Sanskrit. Hindi is formed much later by choosing the largest spoken dialect of Prakrit in the present day Uttar Pradesh. So it very clear that anything written in Sanskrit is newly written literature after Sanskrit was formed.
How prakrit is indo european then?
@@Agnostic7773 Prakrit has both spoken and written versions but Sanskrit was a verbally transmitted language until it was finally scripted as a written language. Liguistics would have only compared the written languages of Indo European langugages. If they had included the current witten version of Sanskrit, then it is probably Prakrit as Sanskrit was built from many dialects of Prakrit languages, Pali and Persian which is why it is called Refined language - "Sans kriti". The researchers found the gap and distance between the current Sanskrit and Indo European languages that is why they proposed a possible language called "Vedic Sanskrit" which do no have any record both verbally or as written record.
@@AlexVembar thats not my question
How prakrit is Indo European language?
Panini(500BCE) invented grammar for sanskrit not for prakrit or tamil.. Right?
@@Agnostic7773 There is no record of this in any form. It is just a claim. A birch bark manuscript from Kashmir of the Rupavatara, a grammatical textbook based on the Sanskrit grammar of Pāṇini (dated 1663) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch_bark_manuscript This is the oldest record of physical written record of Panni grammer. If you know any record for 500 BCE please share.
@@Agnostic7773 Tamil vs Prakrit or Pali or Sanskrit or any other indo european languages do not have any common grammer or origin. Tamils oldest written record is from Tamil Brahmi inscription in Keeladhi, Madurai from 580 BCE - 500 CE (carbon dated from one of the top layered pot shell with Tamilili script inscription and the deeper pits were not allowed by the Central Govt. of India due to fear to loosing their story). The grammar of Tamil is Tholkappiam written by Tholkappiar not Panini en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolk%C4%81ppiyam
ne protoslavų,bet baltų-slavų bendro kamieno
Viva Polska!
You are a god
Thank you.
Can you please tell us at what time R1A and R1B haplogroups came in Vincha culture and how long they stayed there
The earliest date R1a was found in 3500 BCE. It is uncertain whether R1a existed at that time as the Vinča culture is faster. I'm preparing a video about R1b right now, so you'll be able to check it out soon.
@@geonomad1 thank you so much for your answer please just one more question is it true that R1A haplogroup is Slavic and R1B haplogruop is Celtic branch if so are they first relatives between each other... thank you for your answer
@@antivari100 All I know is that R1b-L21 is The Atlantic Celtic branch.
My friend R1A and R1b were not came in Vincha , they spreaded from Vincha to the whole Europa.
@@mikimladenovic6845 Nemas pojma
1: 30, Korea Jeju [제주] island....
Tianyuan is not ancestral to modern populations. Not sure why some people are so obsessed with a South Asian coastal route for (Northern) k2b but it simply didn't happen
What about M-512?
I don't believe in Aryan theory but There is a tribe in kerala called thiyya which shows a jentics and linguistics origin in the thian sha mountains of central asia according to the linguistics the Iranian word deva is first mentioned in Sanskrit in 2 century BCE and it originated from proto indo European language 'dievo' many proto indo european language has this word with same meening which meens in english as 'shining' or divine this word changes in to thiya in central asia thiyan sha mountains that meens mountains of god/deva and one particular hindhu caste in kerala called thiya meens 'divyan' in native language malayalam wich meens in english shining or divine also practices theyyam/ daivam or god as their religious rituals and their oral folk storys and songs clearly mentions they came from somewhere else meening of the word thiyya is divine and the first place where genitics and linguistics both meet together is the beginning of the tian Sha mountains and indo-sythrians religion is an ancient greek religion and buddisam mixture and thiyyas shows an almost same mixture with hindhuism and thiyya have a rich marshel treditions in recorded history and their folk songs and fougrin records from 16th century onwards clearly shows they are the one who practiced and developed kalaripayattu to the world and thiyyar is the only hindhu warrior caste in entire india which formed 3 European colonial army regiments in their own caste name with Britishers they formed thiyya regiment and with french they formed french thiyya pattalam and with dutch they formed dutch chegons the chekars are a warrior section among thiyyas who's duty is to fight in wars and they are ethinically from Malabar north kerala and all this units are started to form in 1730s onwards and all royal force in kerala before Indian indipendance had thiyya soldiers in their force and in entire south india there is no other hindhu caste ever had a caste based army regiment with any colonial European powers but in north India Britishers started few other warrior caste army regiments also and latest gentical study from Indian government institutions like center for cellular science and molecular biology in Hyderabad also clearly shows thiyyas have central asian anciant Iranian ancestry and in sre lankan history srilankan people also consider thiya/Divya as indo sythrians and devas even german nazi seintists before Indian indipendance also came this area to study these groups but indian government is now trying to eliminate this caste people from history now all their historical records are only getting from outside sources and trying to mix with a south kerala caste called ezhava a native caste which never even allowed to take a sword or never ever participated in a royal army or a war before Indian indipendance according to the recorded history and they blocked all thiyya Wikipedia pages from 2013 and blocked remaining thiyyar pages in 2022 even the smallest caste in india has their own wiki pages thiyyas are the biggest hindhu caste in Malabar kerala and with the support of government they are changing all thiyya warriors as ezhavas and because of thiyyas fougrin origin government also trying to eliminate thiyya community from all records to localise or indianise Indian history even more deeper
@robertolang9684 Adi Divyan /vayanaattukulavan theyyam
Divyan/thiyyan
Daivam/theyyam
Thiyyas god's are theyyams
Centuries old thiyyas theyyam thottams do mention the meaning of the name thiyya as divya/divyan (in english it means divine) several times in the theyyam rituals
Thiyyas are shaktheya hindhus from kerala thiyya means divyan/divine and theyyam means daivam/ deva and in central asian and Chinese language also the word thiya meens divine/deva or heaven and the ritual performance of the divine is called theyyam/daivam And most theyyams are related with thiyya community of north malabar and thiyyas ancestor god is vayanaattu kulavan/aadi divyan/aadi thiyyan and ancestor godess or kula devi is Arya poomaala bagavathi and sree kurumba bagavathi is also an important goddess of thiyyas almost all sree kurumba kavu and temples in malabaar is related with thiyya and they also worship muthappan an aryan god of thiyyas a mixture of Shiva and vishnu as one divine soul theyyam in all parts in the country and many of thiyya theyyams do mention Arya word many times in their theyyam thottams like Arya nation,Arya land, Arya god,Arya king,Arya daughter etc.. and the nearby hindhu communitys around north malabar area also adopted theyyams from years and gentic studies by indian government authorities also saying thiyyas have an out side origin from south india and thiyya played a huge role in the spread of kalaripayattu, Ayurveda and theyyams in malabar kerala and the ruling hindhu party in india BJP (bhara thiya janatha party) also named after this community 'bharathiya means divine people of bharat' it use to glorify the people of bharat.
And the word 'thi' also means in Malayalam 🔥 fire(agni) the purest thing and its colour is orange which is a sacred colour for hindhus and thiyyas use large fire 🔥 and alcohol and cannabis also use in their ancestor worship and spiritual rituals
and in central asian-chinese vedic hindhu-bhudhist mixed religion they used the word Thiya to glorify their gods like Dàzìzàithiān (Shiva), Dìshìtiān (Indra), Dàfàntiān (Brahma), Jíxiáng Tiānnǚ (Lakshmi), Biàncáithiān (Saraswati or Bharathi)
and scy-thians are also an indo iraninan tribe lived in central asia and in anciant greek also thia means divine/god/ goddess and a goddess called theia also in Greece methodology and many gods also carry 'thia' name in ancient greek religion and the fire 🔥 goddess is called 'hestia' in ancient greek mythology
And the first and the oldest veda Rigveda start with the verses of agini 🔥(thi)
In the Vedic tradition, soma (Sanskrit: सोम, romanized: sóma) is a ritual drink of importance among the early Vedic Indo-Aryans.The Rigveda mentions it, particularly in the Soma Mandala. Gita mentions the drink in chapter 9 It is equivalent to the Iranian haoma(alcohol drink)The relationship between humans and the deity was one of transaction, with Agni (the sacrificial fire) taking the role of messenger between the two. Strong traces of a common Indo-Iranian religion remain visible, especially in the Soma cult and the fire worship and animal sacrifice is also part of early vedic tribes
Proud to have YP1337, the leet haplogroup.
Why are you proud ?
@@valevisa8429 because it's elite.
@@gediminasmorkys3589 Elite ?! OK then :)
Suffering from inferiority complex? Go to see your psychiatrist
So Z282 is Baltic?
As is known, Balts mixed with Finugrs and then there was a large area where both Balts and Finns had similar YDNA.
Then the Slavic minority came in and assimilated the Balt and Finugr majority in northern Russia.
In general est slavs (excluded south ukrainians) have close genes to baltics and finnic peoples
And Siberia.
@@Andrei-ev7du Probably because those nations assimilated them (I mean the Serbs). Arkona was destroyed a long time ago. And the Germans were killing them so that they remained only Lusatian Serbs. Similar to how the Albanians exterminated the Serbs in Kosovo today. And today's Ukraine was also inhabited by Serbs, look at the historical facts. The problem is that even today the Germans hide that all Slavs are Serbs, but not all Serbs are Slavs. It's like saying the English are Proto-Americans. Serbs - Servi - Veni - Wendi.
Z282 is Balto-Slavic.
Are you sure that the Finns and Balts were in the majority and absorbed by the Slavic minority?After all, the territories where the Finns and Balts lived were sparsely populated, and the locals (Fins and Balts) were not engaged in agriculture and farming, so many people could not live in those territories, but when the Slavs began to come to these lands, they brought with them agriculture and farming, from- because of this, there were more Slavs, they could afford more food, and when the Mongols came to the steppes, very large streams of Slavs poured into the northeast, you can compare the names of cities in the northeast central Russia and in the west of present-day Ukraine.
great vid
How is R1q associated with proto indo euroepans even Yamnaya culture was mostly R1b carriers (80%>)
Can you give me a bit info about E1B - V13
Paleo-Balkanite haplo
I resume this to the point: r1a is also called the aryan gene, haplogroup. It is also called the persian Haplogroup and it originated in Persia/Iran. Later on they went to india and Asia where mongols r#ped the persian women and from there the amazon women were born. They meet the Cimmerians in Crimea and they married giving the origin of r1a1 and even R1A1a1 what is finally known as the aryan race. For that reason Belarusians, polish, Baltics are all white, light blue eyes and blonde. In 1933 they persuade hitler to create the aryan ideal and this included to wipe the hebrews. They sent their women to the hebrews to infiltrate and from there the liberal leftism was born and all the world went to waste, courtesy of Slavs, the most demonic thing ever existed with the rat eaters from asia. Time has given the reason to the Austrian artist.
Stay away from drugs
@@harleyquinn8202 ad hominem coming from an ignorant
DNA analysis is great for studyng migration of people. Political history is a different genre and in the best form it does not include fairy tales grouping people based on their ancestry. In the case fairy tales are included, nowadays it is sometimes reffered to as racism.
@@thomasl2974 Slavs didn't migrate I mean, they are still in the same place they were 2000 years ago, it's not that now the population of Ukraine or Poland are different than the scythians at the times of jesus, yes some of them went around the times of WW2 to argentina and that's why the people from the capital are white especially the women with light blue eyes. The slavic genes are progressive, if anyone marries them, their ancestry is gonna be absorved by the slavic one and the original ethinicty will dissappear.
@@seanvandiijk2889 That would've turned all Germans and Dutch into Slavs long time ago 🤣
It doesn't matter who your ancestors were, what matters is what values you identify with, because if you hurt other people, considering them inferior to yourself, then you are simply an animal that has a long evolutionary path before becoming a human.
False. Origin is north black sea stepoes.
Bravo from Slavic man :)
Aki nem is létezik ..... !
:)
HAMIS A KIINDULÓPONT !
:)
...igy hát a végeredmény is ... !
Z280 spread to spain and italy with the gothic tribes. It spread to england with norwegian vikings
I am a Kurd from Nort Kurdistan I have R1a z93
Göç yollarını araştır. Çünkü z93 Türklerin ortak habligrubu😂 slavlar da olmasında normal hun etkisi. Biz diyoruz inanmıyorsunuz.
Z93 is a Turkish haplogroup.
Europeans actually come from North Asia instead of West Asia
Not OG Europeans with I2
Slavs were Scythian
Correct
Scythians were mostly Z93. Slavs are Z280 and M458.
@@TheOlgaSasha I believe z280 descends from z93 plus ether way they have common ancestor as well as some Slavs are z93
@@ninjaentrepreneur3578 Slavs originated in the areal of Zarubintsy arch. culture (3 cent.BC - 1 cent. AD in Northern Ukraine and Southern Belarus), where R1a-Z283 and I2-Y3111 were dominant linneages. Of course, Slavs started to migrate to south forest-steppe zone and assimilated some remains of Scythians in the lower Dnieper basin but their number was not high (Scythians were defeated by Sarmatians in 1st century AD in modern-day Ukraine, so most of them migrated to southern steppes where Slavs never inhabited). In 3rd century AD Goths invaded to modern-day Ukraine. In 4-5 th centuries most of Goths, Scythians, Sarmatians (mostly Alans) left southern Ukraine under the Hunnic pressure and moved to the borders of Roman Empire. Most of Scythians migrated to Pannonia and to Balkans. That is why Z93 (commmon for Scythians and Sarmatians) is mostly found among south Slavs (especially in Bulgaria) but almost absent in north (western and eastern) Slavs. Linguistically Slavs have a low % of Scythian and Sarmatian borrowed words (bog - god, sobaka - dog, loshad - horse etc.). As well as all those words have old Slavic synonimic words (divo - god, pes - dog, kon - horse). So Scythians appeared much more earlier than Slavs appeared as ethnic group and Slavs did not originated from Scythians according to DNA and archaeological searches. Zarubintsy arch. culture (ancestors of Slavs) is complicated amalgamation of local south Baltic tribes with migrants from Central Europe (Late La Tene) - ancient Venedi and Bastarnae. Zarubintsy arch. items (fibulae of Celto-Illyrian type, Celto-Germanic type of S-conic plates, black-polished pottery, cremation with remaining bones in urns ("urn fields") show a strong connection with late La Tene (Celtic) culture and differ very much from local Baltic and Scythian cultures.
@@TheOlgaSasha All R1a types descend from a common ancestor yes or no?
Someday someone will explain how R1b-U106 ruled out Corded Ware/R1a from nordic/germanic peoples.😮
I2a is slavic and originates from Ukraine. This haplogroup is founds alot in south slav countries, Bulgaria and Romania.
Find out who founded Ukraine, bro. In the Ukrainian city of Slavyanorserbsk, there is an unusual cultural monument of Cossacks, Serbs and Russians and the inscription "There are no bonds more sacred than those of brotherhood".
😂😂😂😂
Yea, why would anyone call a slavic haplogroup with I2a1 same as the germanic haplogroups are named I1 and I2a2 ?!?! It is a hoax, the preparation for a genocide which is already taking place worldwide, they call themselves the same but are totally different hominid composition!! We should all work together to solve this mistake and rename the slavic group to something as R1aJ2 variant or R1c !!!
The germanic I1 and I2 are not related with the slavic I2x in Croatia etc...!! They named it deliberately wrong to disguise the slavic genocide against the germanic people ://
Slavized*
Где те славяне и где шнуровики... Посмотрите, Где-то совсем рядом должны быть берега, но вы их не видите.
Фигасе Белорусы прородители современной Европы...
Не Беларусьі, а треугольник пограничья Украиньі, Польши и Беларуси (Полесье)
@@TheOlgaSasha Чето не вижу причем тут Украина и Польша, центр прямо в пределах Белоруси ниходится...
@@grimgolum6068 Центр чего? Там схематически показано. Славяне возникли в ареале Зарубинецкой культурьі - єто Полесье (Северная Украина и юг Беларуси). Далее позднезарубинецкие памятники распространились в Восточную Польшу.
@@TheOlgaSasha про славян идет речь с 6:07 ,а до этого не ключевая часть...
R1A was outcompeted by R 1B in Western Europe...
R1b came from eastern Europe
@@pelandolickasshole8715 modern day Ukraine...
I'm Serb but I'll acknowledge that these people can't be considered Slavs
They are at best proto-slavs, but more appropriately they are proto even that. Proto even Balts. They are simply Indo-Europeans
Corded Ware wasn’t Indo-European but assimilated Paleo-European.
@@papazataklaattiranimam Autosomally Corded Ware was essentially Yamnaya with some Globular Amphora admixture
And regardless of the origin of R1a in Corded Ware (it could be a PIE lineage that we haven't found yet or a non-IE lineage which spread among Indo-Europeans who nevertheless remained autosomally PIE), R1b was also present in CW, including the subclade which now predominates Western Europe
@@Nastya_07 It is a fact that has been definitively proven this year that R1A in Corded Ware is not a PIE lineage and that there is no R1A in PIE people.
@@papazataklaattiranimam Hm, on a Twitter thread on the relationship between Corded Ware and Yamnaya (posted after the recent preprint), Iosif Lazaridis mentions the two hypotheses
But nevertheless:
- R1b was also in CW
- R1a CW people remained autosomally PIE
@@Nastya_07autosomally yes, paternally no. Finns are also autosomally IE but not paternally.
Народы с галогруппой R1a в России- 83%
R1 = GREEN CAVES
I am Turk and and my Y-DNA is R1a-M198>Z93>Z94>Z2124>Z2125>YP413
Indo-Iranian pajeetic lineage 😢😢😢
Do you see my Z93 ancestry and what that means?
Also, the oldest body found belonging to my haplogroup seems to be from Bukhara, Uzbekistan, 3000 years ago.
@@Baryshxcheck out from yfull
@@Baryshx The criterion is this; if it is found densely in India and Pakistan, this branch is non - Turkic. And your lineage is unfortunately one of those non-Turkic lineages.
@@Baryshxyour ancestors were probably Sogdians who got Turkified. :((
Nowadays, EVERYTHING is politics 😞... and the history is based on politics 😞
mrbeast ok
The oldest R1a till date has been found in India's aboriginal group.
One day it will be proven R itseif originated in the Himalayas
i kinda prefer the other voice this 1 is striking just saying
Wenedowie to slowianie. Wedrowcy. Filistyni, Fenicjanie, Etruskowie, jak i Trojanie. TRI, TRZY, to slowianskie trzy. Trojan to nic innego jak Triglaw , TriMurti. Jak Swiatowitt to Brahma. Np. BRZESC na wschodzie, Brest na zachodzieBrescia na poludniu. To nazwa brzegowa w naszym Lahickim jezyku.
Troja to TROJEGÓR lub TRZYGÓRY
Wendowie są Serbami.
Bulgars. You know we came from today ukraine. There was a country named Bulgaria 500km from today moscow. USSR was the last empire that united that gene, thats why people feel conected in some way that they don't understand, because we learned history in western accepted way. Now my country Bulgaria is an american state and deep down you know its true. The genes dont lie, but the history books sometimes do.
Bulgars were Turkic people
@@papazataklaattiranimam actually the turks are bulgarians. We weared the dulo sign in a own country way before you. So how i am turk, arent you a bulgarian successor - think about it.
@@yonislav_9821😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Dulo clan was a ruling dynasty of the Bulgars,[1] who were of Turkic origin.
The history flip is soo hard here. Your sultans praised us so hard is hilarious. Never knowed they history, we had a common enemies, instead you saw us as enemy too. If the dulo sign is bulgarian, then atilla is a what?
@@yonislav_9821Turkic peoples Bulgars, Cumans and Ottomans ruled Bulgaria 1000 years😂😂
Where were Slavic peoples in history 😅😅😅
Sad South Slavic (I, E, J) noises
The 2006 Y-DNA study results "suggest that the Slavic expansion started from the territory of present-day Ukraine, thus supporting the hypothesis that places the earliest known homeland of Slavs in the basin of the middle Dnieper".[56] According to genetic studies until 2020, the distribution, variance, and frequency of the Y-DNA haplogroups R1a and I2 and their subclades R-M558, R-M458, and I-CTS10228 among South Slavs are correlated with the spreading of Slavic languages during the medieval Slavic expansion from Eastern Europe, most probably from the territory of present-day Ukraine and Southeastern Poland.[57][58][59][60][61][62][63]. Unlike Anatolian Turks and the Azeris, all Slavs score predominately in Slavic Y-DNA. Among South Slavs, the dominant Y-DNA lineages are I2a1b-Din, R1a, and then E1b.
Your obsession with East and South Slavs is amusing, you specifically project all of the Turkish inferiorities on the South Slavs - just to cope with the fact that they've paved a highroad with the skulls of nearly a dozen Turkish peoples, starting with the Pannonian Avars.
E and J do not exceed 20% in South Slavs. I2 is considered slavic, hence 25-30% in Belarusians, Ukranians and some region of Poland, Czech republic and Slovakia
Is.this.information.before.the.story.of.noha.flood.or.is.it.in.the.tiime.of.jacob.and.easu.
Thanks for Turkish
World first cultures Lepenski vir, Starcevo, Vinca culture today Serbia.
World first industrial revolution ca. 6000 BC. Bronze metallurgy. (BBC History news March 2010)
Gordon Childe-The Danube in Prehistory, Jacque Pirenne-Agriculture at Danube
Farming start about 6000 BC. Vinca First Calendar start to count years at 5508 BC. Farming wouldn’t be possible without knowledge of calendar. Both development started and developed together.
Harald Harman about first cyrillic writings in Vinca culture in 5500 BC so 2000 years before any writings anywhere else on the world.
Vinca Iron production 1400 BC.
In today English language there is more than 2000 same or similar Serbian words.
Names of the Balkan tribes: Pelasgians, Mycenaeans, Etruscan, Wendi, Illiyrians, Dardanians, Moesians, Dacians, Tracians, Rasci, Celts, Scythians, Sarmatians, Arians, Sea People, Peleset, Philistines, Hittites, Bhrygians, Etruscan. Tribes spread in all directions …….
Wild Greeks arived ~ 1000 BC from Egipt, Hungarian from Asia and Bulgariens from Asia they found culture on the Balkans, writings and language and they mixed with domestic people.
Wendi were not Balkan tribe.
@@tienshinhan2524 Hey, Tienshinhan, Thank you for your comment, Wendi are one of many old Serbian tribes, you can visit today Wendisch museum in Cottbus, Germany, this is German name, other wise they are cold Lusatian Sorbs, Lužički Srbi.
@@user-ox5db9pz1l Mislio sam na Jadranske Venete.
@@tienshinhan2524 Herodot wrote: Veneti i Iliri are the same people.
@@tienshinhan2524 Germans published dictionary in year 1791 German- Illyrian so you can read the words and speak, it is today Serbian.
Kyrgyzstan 63% 73% R1A
It is mainly B115 subclade which is unrelated to Corded Ware.