What Size Thread Can You Use in an Industrial Walking Foot Sewing Machine
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- In this video I experiment with different thread and needle sizes.
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I'm amazed at how much you know about these machines. Being one who has an eye for infinite detail, I will say your level of detail/observation is in the top 1 - 5%. A class 1 machinist, a mechanical engineer, a physicist...all in a person who can speak with SUPERB communication skills to teach people slowly and methodically so they don't get lost or drift off. I could watch your videos for hours...and have.
Your demonstration of how this 206 operated with its walking/pinning action in another video was absolutely over the top. I watched that segment of the video several times. Your comment on "...its like pinning with each step..." really brought home the main concept regarding the presser/foot cycle. It made me start looking for one of these machines...but then I decided to consider the J-1541 (new) for down the road.
Good video. In less than 4 years ive gone from my own 30 plus year old Elna to 7 more machines. And only 2 are the same brand. Basically I’m going to teach sewing in my small retirement town but ive also added more heavy duty craft sewing, making purses from jeans. My neighbor gave me his Singer Industrial, a bit rare as in I think they just quickly made better models. It’s a 1933 111W103 walking foot. Ive had a lot of luck in my quests learning all the brands i have, singer treadle, japanese models, japanese clone and lucky to bump into people who know. Another neighbors son in law makes sails back east and he saw the industrial in back yard when we were redoing floor in my sewing studio. And lucky in that, the retirement purchase came with 3 buildings and a craft room all my own built on old 2 car garage pad! So that guy explained and set the machine for me. I’m still afraid of the clutch motor. He recommended a thinner thread. Said what was in there way too heavy. I also found a great industrial store back in Anaheim visiting my kids. They even drafted their own manual gathering all known instructions and diagrams and similar but different brand machines. It’s called Albernoni if that helps anyone for parts. So knowledgeable. But happy to find this video and thread explanations. Thanks so much! I have been sewing for 50 years but never knew what all was out there in machines. Trying not to be hoarder. 8 is it!
These are Great Machines
this is probably one of the most helpful videos I have seen!
Thanks, as a newbie to industrials this is very useful, and I would never have thought of missing some of the thread tensioner bits out to accomodate thicker thread. Obviously works!
I am glad you found this useful.
The most versatile sewing machine I've ever encountered is the Singer 31-15, it a commercial tayloring machine; very impressive!
Just buy different bobbin cases. I have a few different bobbin cases for different jobs. They’re only a few bucks for my machine. Same as needle plates. It works if someone can only have one machine as you said. My dealer sales needle plates along with appropriate feed dogs and needle plates for different sized needles for 4-6 bucks.
ned a lot from this video (and from others of yours as well!) You brought up a number of things that wouldn't occur to me regarding thread size and the bobbin case. Much appreciated, sir.
I am glad to help.
This video has been a big help to me. Thanks
Great info. I had no idea why my compound cylinder arm wouldn't sew thicker threads. Now I know it's because I was an idiot about thread size & needle size but you know what, nobody ever teaches you how heavy duty walking foot leather machines work in the fashion academies 😏👌 in fact in London, many fashion graduates still don't know how to thread an overlocker after graduation 🎓
Very nicely explained. This is so important when you are sewing. I sew as well and I can confirm that you are really good..please continue to share some more .May God continue to bless you and your channel
Excellent video .. that's what I can simply say... short nd simple, no stupid fancy graphics or waste of words...
I'm using #92 in my 227, works great
This was very informative and I was happy. Thanks
Alexander that’s so useful and helpful. Thank you so much
Good demo on all the variables involved in thread size and tension. Very informative.
Thank you.
That Consew is a nice, robust machine. Neat demo.
Awesome vídeo, with very useful tips. Thank you very much! 👏👏👏👏
Thank you.
Thank you
Thanks a lot
Very helpful, thank you.
I am glad that you found value in my content.
great vid. thx
thanke you for the nice tips😊👍
I love your channel, so helpful!
Thank you so much!
I use lots of TEX40 in my 1541 with no tension issues mostly in medium weight fabrics. I might buy a couple of extra bobbin cases at some so I can save a little time setting the tension but easy enough to do and practise makes perfect! Thanks for the videos!
If you only go up or down a size or two you can usually get by just fine with just an upper tension adjustment. That is a real good machine, Juki makes good stuff.
Alexander Dyer yeah mines not a real juki just one of the clones 😁
Thinking about getting a Chinese Typical that is equivalent to a Juki 1508/1510, went through the part lists of 1508/1510 and Typical 20665 14D and they look close to identical (besides where the typical has a longer arm and vertical adjustment of 1510-7) what you can't see however is the quality of parts like material/casting/machining. So I'm wondering how well your clone is doing, does it hold up? Any issues?
@@AlexKall Do you really believe the clone from China will be as good as the 1510n-7 made in Japan? If so I have a bridge I will sell you cheap. I've got 2 1510N-7's
Great review.... Thanks for a real world review.
Thanks, I am glad you liked it.
I like to watch these videos. I use a Teflon disc (Bobbin Genie plus one drop of oil) and I do not get the back spin on the bobbin. Of course, I use my sewing machine is used for domestic sewing and free motion quilting.
Thanks ! you just saved me a bunch of time!
alexander your great.love the way you edit your films. great info. im a happy subscriber....
Thanks...
one of my points was with a #16 needle going to a #24 the variation with the scarf and hook would be quite significant
these videos you do really help me understand my machine... thanks for the help
Glad I can help, your welcome.
@@AlexanderDyer this machine can sticth 13mm split leather or 12mm vegetable leather
You can run 207 top thread and 138 bottom no problem at all that machine anything larger on the bottom thread and it won't work it'll give you trouble. Plus that Bob and even big enough to run any larger thread and 138 you'll be feeling it all the time.
Thank you very much, gave me lots of new knowledge
Thanks.
I use tex 240 all the time in my LU563 Juki. Those small bobbin machines like yours are really 75-140 tex for the most part. My Juki LG-158 is always loaded with the tex 170-240 and I wouldn't use lighter thread on that one.
Thank you. I learned a lot.
This video helped me so much thank you for taking the time and effort to share. Kim, South Africa
Glad to help.
thank you it help me a lot thank u again
I glad it helped.
Thanks for showing the details, some would blabber about something else while going through the motions.
Some like it, others don't. I didn't get the gift of gab but I try to get my point across. Thank you for your comment.
Alexander, a very good video, I have a question for you, you did not adjust the timing when you changed the needle size, ..... I suppose you switch from heavy to light to heavy.... if you need information about sewing threads and applications, please let me know, Thank you!
I have been looking for this kind of video for so long... I have a Sailrite. So many videos do not go into the complexity of all the different adjustments to properly set-up. Your discussion of bottom tension is golden.
I have so many similar questions. How to choose for example: thread size, stitch length, bottom tension, top tension, feed pressure, thread size, straight or zigzag...
Yes, there is a lot of subjectivity involved in these things... but generally speaking how do you choose?
I take it that #1 is to set bottom bobbin tension. (I know this how to do this after a lot of searching, but if you a video on set-up, this would be good to show.) then specifically all the steps you do... Much like this but more explanation.
I have hundreds of videos on sewing machines. Go to my channel and search for phrases and terms. Here is one to get you started. czcams.com/video/xax0RTCqYTk/video.html
By the way Great Video
Hey Alex, Good stuff right here. I just bought a 1541s and have been obsessing with figuring out what is the minimum size thread I can sew with and what is the maximum size thread I can sew with as well as materials used such as thick leather. I was told the 1541s can sew up to 277 thread on top but you must use to the maximum size thread of 138 on the bottom bobbin. Just as the consew 206 can if not heavier thread on top. I personally haven't done tests yet on my machine as I'm getting familiar with how to drive the machine really well and understand everything about it before I go driving it at high speeds on narrow roads if all that metaphor makes sense. So in conclusion to what the video is here. If I'm using small thread such as tex 33 I have to tighten the bottom bobbin to compensate for the small thread. 138 is rated as the maximum size for the bottom bobbin but have not tested heavier thread on top. I will be doing tests and keep you posted. Great content as always.
Sounds like you got a pretty good grasp of the basic principles to me. Sounds like you are having fun too. I have a 1541S in my personal collection, it is a great machine. Thanks for everything.
Can you tell me your personal opinion on the 1541s vs consew 206? Have you done thread testing on the 1541s? I just ordered a speed reducer for my machine as it seems it would only help my quality of sewing instead of going as blazing fast speeds. Plus it will give me more torque. Any advice?
If you run138 on top you can run92 in boblbin- alot less hassle
Can you do a video on different presser feet? I have not seen anyone do a video on the different presser feet and when you would use them. Thank You
Hi Alexander,do you know how to move the needle left and right,I know how to move it back and forward,I have the consequences 206 Rab -3 ?
Thanks in advance,cheers Colin.
I want bo buy one like this. Sent to Brazil. Where can I find it here. Thanks
Tex 135 V138 size 21 needle 24 size needles are for tex 270 /v 277
gr8 vid.... :-)
thx....;-)
I am looking to purchase a Consew 118 and the manual says it uses needles 16x63 for cloth and 16x64 for leather and plastics ranging in size from 14 to 25. I do not understand what this means. Can you explain this to me? I want to sew marine Sunbrella and vinyl upholstery.
One more question, anyone please, my stitcher adjuster button is stuck and very hard to move,my stitches are to close, help already oiled and cleaned the machine, i
I use 138 thread on top and load the bobbin with 69 or 92 works out good in upholstery/ pain in the butt to use138 in bobbin
I have heard of this before, sounds like a good work around, thanks.
Wonderful presentation :) What style of machine would be best for 207 or 277 Bonded Nylon thread?? Thank you again for your details. The bobbin review was perfect♡
The Juki 441 or any of its clones, i.e. Cowboy, Cobra etc.
I have had many machines and currently use Automatic Durkopp Adler 867's. I have had Pfaff 545's and 138 thread is really too heavy for those machines. You will see when backstitching and a 23 needle is suffice for 138 thread as a 24 will most likely deflect off the hook unless one adjusts the hook which I would not advise unless you know how to time the machine.. # 69 - 92 is ideal for this Consew machine
69, 92 yes and I will say that I use tex 105 all the time with very good result, it is my goto size, tex 105
excellent video. i have a Nakagima industrial walking foot and its a great machine. but like any it needs proper adjustment! what thread would you recommend for sewing leather and canvases?
Thanks.
Many people use Tex 69 which is good. I like Tex 105, it is a substantial looking stitch, good and strong and you can still get a decent amount onto a standard size bobbin. I have some Nakajima videos, like:
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@@AlexanderDyer yes
I have a Consew 206R that I just bought. It's locked up where would you recommend to start looking for the problem?
Thread wrapped around and under the hook.
Hi There,
What brand of thread can you recommend for upholstery, backpack making? And what weight should it be?
I use Tex 138 for sewing those kind of things BONDED polyester. As he points out its much easier to use one sized thread and stick to it. I get my thread from the thread exchange. If you are sewing leather use a cutting needle, for fabric use a sharps.
i am looking for a bobbin caseing
I think that machine is set up for V92 which From what I know is the standard for automotive upholstery. But the supplier sells 277 I think it is called. I Have no idea what machine will run that thread.
277 uses 24 needle
Can you make a video of kensew d u 125 double needles. How to fix it..tanks
I hope these help you. czcams.com/video/Sg3JwRlCQaQ/video.html
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I have a singer 251-12, my question is what thread size needle could I use for heavy leather
tolindsewmach.com/thread-chart.html
If you were a new sewer what industrial machine would you buy? I’ve been using a Singer 4423 for over a year on simple projects. During this pandemic I’ve made over 100 masks for family and friends. I’ve also sewn other simple projects. I think I’m ready to make my first backpack but I’m concerned about sewing several layers of canvas with this machine. I also own a Janome HD3000 but it’s still NIB. It’s also real similar to the Singer so it would probably struggle with multi layers of canvas. Ty for your time.
Watch these for my answer you to your question.🙂
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Alexander Dyer Thank you. I will.
Check out Lauren Marmino video on threads and needles for making backpacks
Is today's brand new 206rb5 able to run tex135 thread like the older 206rb5 ? I'm in the market for this machine, I can get the new one or the older one like in the video. Is there an advantage or disadvantage between new and old ? Besides the obvious "patina and soulfulness"
I think a person could be happy with any generation. For me, condition means much. I think the capabilities run consistent through the generations as well.
@@AlexanderDyer thank you my friend ! You do a great job as a teacher and your delivery is clear and friendly. I'm a better sewing hobbyist with your guidance !
Thanks for showing. I have been trying to buy a leather sewing machine. But i am very confused with the thread sizes and needle sizes and shapes. What shape is your needle? Appreciate your response for helping.
I usually keep it pretty simple. I buy standard point needles since they work as well in fabric as leather. The knife points cut fabric unnecessarily. If you are only sewing in leather then the various points can produce different visual effect and slightly protect the thread by setting it further into the leather.
thanks for your prompt reply.
Thread 138, needle 24?
And the thread Bellow?
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Thanks.
I have a Consew 205 and trying to sew a seam on a duffel bag with NYLON thread, I have gone over re-threading, tension, making sure I've got bobbin thread going counter-clockwise and the thread keeps breaking (NOT OLD THREAD) and slipping back all the way to the take-up lever, ugh!! Am I needing to change the thread?
You need to go up a needle size.
Alexander...there are a lot parts out there, but you cant really tell what is quality and what is not. Can you give some direction on brands? Thank You
Ask for original or OEM parts.
do you have trouble with the bobbin spinning inside the case and how do you fix even with 135 thread
I am not sure I understand. The bobbin does spin, no problem.
@@AlexanderDyer it spins and tangles or over spins inside the case causing it to hang around bobbin in in back of leather
I think that this may address your issue. czcams.com/video/xax0RTCqYTk/video.html
I sometimes have that problem if I bartack too fast. Like it causes a whiplash effect in the casing.
Hi Alex great videos! On my Juki 1541s I’m having issues with the thread fraying or tearing apart at the needle. Happens more when I try to sew two pieces of thicker (6-8 oz) veg tan leather. I’m using a 22 and 24 needle and have been up and down in sizes of different threads. 69 up to 207. Since I’m totally green to sew machines in general I’m super lost. Any suggestions? Thank you. Jason
When everything else is right then I would suspect the thread. Poor thread has had me going in circles for days. Weather it is cheap, old, sun damaged or nicked it all can lead to a very frustrating experience. Get some good thread. I use mostly core spun polyester and bonded polyester and some good 100% cotton. Look for a good manufacturer, this is not an area to "save" money. Good Luck
Alexander Dyer Thanks for the response. I have tried threads from 3 different suppliers in different weights with the same issues. From what I’ve read/seen it seems like it could be a tension problem. I’ve tried going from very little to very much tension. Still no change. I’m very frustrated because this is my first machine and I haven’t any anything but problems with it.
Alexander Dyer Would you be able to make a video on adjusting the tension on a Juki 1541 ? I haven’t found anything applying to my machine. I think it’s the upper tension.
czcams.com/video/BBZX6swwSa0/video.html
tolindsewmach.com/thread-chart.html
Are there any home machines that could handle t138?
Not that I know of.
is there a guide somewhere to s69how what needle goes with what thread? 138 to 22 or 24 then. ..69 to a smaller size I assume, but what number? 207 thread to ??? . Thanks for the video. I had to go down to hand stitching because I couldn't figure this out. Took me a month to hand stitch a WW1 Japanese backpack.
tolindsewmach.com/thread-chart.html
i have the same machine but it has the name eagle EA-106
Being new to sewing I assume bobbin and needle thread needs to be same size. Is that a correct assumption?
some will put larger in the top for the look of it and a size or two smaller in the bobbin. A lock stitch is only as strong as its weakest thread.
Some people will use regular thread in the bobbin and clear thread on top for topstitching
Thanks for the video. Can you tell us the weight of the lightest fabric that your machine can sew given the smallest needle and lightest thread it can take?
This is not really a very good machine for light weight material. A drop feed machine is better for that if you are looking. Any way, maybe a size 14 needle running Tex 45 thread. I am not sure, I have never had that question asked and I have other machines for sewing garments.
Thank you.....
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Consew, is it discontinued sewing machine?! Where you buy this machine?😄
They make new ones. But many sell slightly older too at not bad prices. One in my area that was used was only $300 but when i looked it up it was really low level version of their industrials. Just like all machine companies they sometimes produce cheap alternatives. I would say research for the best you can afford at used prices. Also models. Some machines ive been five or bought cheap even for home sewing machines are too find to hard parts or bobbins. One i have has really damaged needle plate and no one makes it anymore. So i filed it a lot!! You need research of join facebook groups for this brand and read their posts and ask questions. It has take me weeks to find one bobbin for one of mine.
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How do I adjust the tension?
I got the video for you. czcams.com/video/xax0RTCqYTk/video.html
how can i get consew sewing machine model 226
I tried to listen carefully for the number of this machine but all I caught was Consew 206. Is that it? Yep, I’m that one girl who wants this machine! Is it for sale?
Yeah kinda. Consew 206RB, then there may or may not be a number 2 3 4 or 5 which indicates the version like Consew 206RB-3 for example
Will you please let me know your price for the Consew?
These sold awhile ago. I don't have anything like that now.
I manufacture awnings and I use only 138 thread in my Consew Sewing Machine like this model
Rex Wilson Do you have to have a special set up. My tension isn’t changing and I’ve been watching lots of videos trying to fig out my consew 226 trying 92 weight and I can’t make the tension loos enough it makes me feel like something is wrong
#24 needle is to big for 138 #24 needle is used with v210 thread. I see everything with v92. V92 in the bobbin #v210 for topstitching
Sure but like I said, I'm using what I had. Your point is about as helpful as if I were to point out that your comment misuses the word to and you should have used the word too. I knew what you meant and for me to point it out is merely annoying and does little to advance the point of the matter. Here is a chart that I like to use for needle and thread sizes. tolindsewmach.com/thread-chart.html
Here is even another chart with a slightly different opinion. alexanderdyer.work/uploads/manuals/Needle%20and%20Thread.jpg
you are right 24 is way too big for 138 however I think the reason he got away with it is because he wasn't using a leather point needle. Leather point needles cut the hole that ball point just punches through with no particular shape. If he was using a leather point you would see how gigantic the hole is compared to the thread.
Wouldn't a thicker needle require you to set the hook gap? Makes no sense otherwise.
No. I have never ran into that. I have change the needle sizes here and did not need to adjust the hook gap.
My bobbin thread is bird nesting. WHY? OR Needles continue to SNAP!
that sounds like tension. Check out my video on tension adjustment. czcams.com/video/xax0RTCqYTk/video.html
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I know I'm abit late for the party but my question is can I use Tex 105 and Tex 80 at the same time on my Typical GC0323 Shuffle foot ? Thanks
Sure you can. You could put Tex 105 top and bottom too if you want. It's up to you.