Sorry but the verse seems to be very clear grammatically and contextually. The next verse says "nor are you to be called instructors". The entire lesson is serve and don't be served which unfortunately is an alien concept in Africa.
If you fall under these categories of people please, don't follow prophet Joel. 1- If you are of the Pharisees and Sanhedrin (religious sect) 2- If you are still at the level where you need the sincere milk of the word of God to grow because the bone might break your teeth. The Lord give you understanding. 3- If you don't have the Holy Spirit to bear witness to whatever you are hearing. 4- If you are not of his tribe in light. How to know if you are of his tribe in light is that as you are listening to him you will know that you know what he's saying even if you have not heard it anywhere before. 5- If you are following him just to know when he will compromise you are harming yourself because that time will not come and what you will be hearing will not be good for your health. I come in peace with all humility
Matthew 23:5-11 [5]But they do all their deeds to be noticed by men; for they broaden their phylacteries and lengthen the tassels of their garments. [6]They love the place of honor at banquets and the chief seats in the synagogues, [7]and respectful greetings in the market places, and being called Rabbi by men. [8]But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers. [9]Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. [10]Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ. [11]But the greatest among you shall be your servant. That scripture was addressed to the church leaders and nothing else. In short the doctrine of fatherism is wicked and make people to start idolising men. That was why Jesus came and was warning us
So why are there three levels of Christianity in the Bible, namely, the babies, sons and fathers? Or is the scripture now contradicting itself? Even Paul called Timothy son, so does it mean that Paul committed an error in that speech? Let's study deeper to gain understanding else knowledge would destroy us.
To the one behind prophet J Ogede's account, Know this, i will not be careful to answer you in this matter; The prophet said and i quote, "He said even your earthly father, don't call him your father". Can you write down exactly where God Almighty or Yeshua Himself said it in the scriptures? Don't write your own words just write out the exact verse in the scripture so we all can go read it for ourselves. Then you came along and added "Hate" into the mix to make the confusion even thicker. Again the prophet said firstly and i quote, "The fact that you came from the same womb doesn't mean you are brothers". Really?? So Esau and Jacob who happened to proceed forth out of the womb of Rebekah as twins are not brothers? Or Manasseh and Ephraim out of the loins of Joseph? Or Cain and Abel out of Adam? So long as y'all depend on a mortal man for the knowledge of the word of God, you will continually be desceived. Forget not the word of The Lord in Jeremiah 17:5. Be blessed.
Prophet, there is a bit of mixture in the teaching concerning 'father'. Holy Spirit in me is grieving. Like the message where you said a person cannot fellowship with Holy Spirit. The Spirit disagrees. Please please man of God, dont allow anything false to corrupt this special calling. With love
Can the Holy ghost grieve over what He inspired and scriptures align with? Are you speaking by the Spirit or by your religious upbringing and understanding? Concerning the video of "the holy Spirit fellowship" have you watched the full video for proper context or understood the message behind the video? Or are you just running with the title the media gave the clip? We are a community heavily guarded by God's word and Spirit. Kindly kindly point out the mixture and contradictions clearly. Admin.
@user-iv2in4ds6mwhat is a trance? And how is it occultic according to scriptures? A trance is simply a spiritual experience anyone can have and it's simply a means by which God reveals revelations to His Prophets. So when the Bible said in Acts 10:10 that Peter fell into a trace it then means Peter is occultic? The prophet was addressing prophetic people in that video explaining to them experiences they would have after prayers to GOD! And he picked a certain time frame from his own experience which is a normal time of prayer for all who keep the night watch. The prophet simply encouraged them not to be afraid of the experience and here you are calling it occultic when you own understanding is the problem. Visions, trances and dreams are all but mediums through which God communicates. When terms are used by Christians don't interpret those terms using your understanding from what ever you interact with outside Christian context. To the pure all things are pure. Also we do not compell anyone to listen to us. So you are free to keep off from the channel. Admin.
@@translatify8870 the media team is already undergoing training and all our listeners should do is to patiently tolerate their mistakes knowing fully well that the man of God is well grounded in scriptures and also it’s important to allow time possess the things we hear until the Holy Spirit brings us into understanding. We appreciate your comment. Admin.
There is no mystery here the verse means exactly what it says... "Call no man here on earth Father(Spiritualy) For one is your Father which is in Heaven. No matter the grace or gift the other brethren has or he was saved before you, he is you brother or sister in the Lord period, let not try and contradict what Jesus said it plain and simple
@@christ-Revealed ”For though you may have ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, because I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.“ 1 Corinthians 4:15 NET
And what is your point in the context of the video or what is the contradiction, and what exactly it contradicticting. Kindly state them clearly. Admin.
@@christ-Revealed I’m not disputing what Jesus said, there’s context that I can explain as to why Jesus was saying what he said but now Paul said that he became their Father and he goes as far as to say IN CHRIST JESUS through the Gospel … I’m pretty sure no one at Corinth was related to Paul in such manner biologically so was Paul saying something erroneous
@GraceMercy-pz3ip But the same bible says that we are all children of Abraham. Jesus never said that we shouldn't call anyone Father in the spirit. After all its same scriptures that talked about the three levels of Christainity. Which are babe, son, and father. Who are fathers of the faith, they are those who first pioneered a certain dimension of God in their Generation. So you can't use the bible to condemn fatherhood in Chrirainity because Jeuss never preached against itm
I don't agree with this teaching. Exodus 20:12 says "Honor your "FATHER" and mother that it shall be well with you...". Our biological/earthly Fathers we are to call Father. Please do not let yourself be used as one of the false prophets foretold to come in these end times 🙏
He never despised our earthly fathers and mothers. He was trying to bring us into the consciousness of we embracing the family we are born into not of flesh but Light...
@@christ-Revealed When people fail to read the Word of God for themselves, then they'll be easily deceived by men the Jesus Christ Himself warned us all of in the last days. Pick up y'all Bibles and get reading!!
Did the prophet tell anyone in the video to dishonor their parents? So when Jesus said "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." In Luke 14:17 was he a false prophet? Or was he telling us to dishonor our parents. Please learn to listen in context so you can get the clear message. The prophet was emphasizing on discerning our spiritual family in christ.
Sorry but the verse seems to be very clear grammatically and contextually. The next verse says "nor are you to be called instructors". The entire lesson is serve and don't be served which unfortunately is an alien concept in Africa.
If you fall under these categories of people please, don't follow prophet Joel.
1- If you are of the Pharisees and Sanhedrin (religious sect)
2- If you are still at the level where you need the sincere milk of the word of God to grow because the bone might break your teeth. The Lord give you understanding.
3- If you don't have the Holy Spirit to bear witness to whatever you are hearing.
4- If you are not of his tribe in light.
How to know if you are of his tribe in light is that as you are listening to him you will know that you know what he's saying even if you have not heard it anywhere before.
5- If you are following him just to know when he will compromise you are harming yourself because that time will not come and what you will be hearing will not be good for your health. I come in peace with all humility
Matthew 23:5-11
[5]But they do all their deeds to be noticed by men; for they broaden their phylacteries and lengthen the tassels of their garments.
[6]They love the place of honor at banquets and the chief seats in the synagogues,
[7]and respectful greetings in the market places, and being called Rabbi by men.
[8]But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers.
[9]Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
[10]Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ.
[11]But the greatest among you shall be your servant.
That scripture was addressed to the church leaders and nothing else.
In short the doctrine of fatherism is wicked and make people to start idolising men.
That was why Jesus came and was warning us
So why are there three levels of Christianity in the Bible, namely, the babies, sons and fathers? Or is the scripture now contradicting itself? Even Paul called Timothy son, so does it mean that Paul committed an error in that speech? Let's study deeper to gain understanding else knowledge would destroy us.
To the one behind prophet J Ogede's account, Know this, i will not be careful to answer you in this matter;
The prophet said and i quote, "He said even your earthly father, don't call him your father". Can you write down exactly where God Almighty or Yeshua Himself said it in the scriptures? Don't write your own words just write out the exact verse in the scripture so we all can go read it for ourselves.
Then you came along and added "Hate" into the mix to make the confusion even thicker.
Again the prophet said firstly and i quote, "The fact that you came from the same womb doesn't mean you are brothers".
Really??
So Esau and Jacob who happened to proceed forth out of the womb of Rebekah as twins are not brothers? Or Manasseh and Ephraim out of the loins of Joseph? Or Cain and Abel out of Adam?
So long as y'all depend on a mortal man for the knowledge of the word of God, you will continually be desceived.
Forget not the word of The Lord in Jeremiah 17:5.
Be blessed.
Prophet, there is a bit of mixture in the teaching concerning 'father'. Holy Spirit in me is grieving. Like the message where you said a person cannot fellowship with Holy Spirit. The Spirit disagrees. Please please man of God, dont allow anything false to corrupt this special calling. With love
you can't tell maybe he make mistake no one is above mistake look for any of their numbers and called.
Can the Holy ghost grieve over what He inspired and scriptures align with? Are you speaking by the Spirit or by your religious upbringing and understanding? Concerning the video of "the holy Spirit fellowship" have you watched the full video for proper context or understood the message behind the video? Or are you just running with the title the media gave the clip? We are a community heavily guarded by God's word and Spirit. Kindly kindly point out the mixture and contradictions clearly.
Admin.
@@GODSGRACE189kindly state the Biblical mistake in the message shared via the clip.
Admin.
@user-iv2in4ds6mwhat is a trance? And how is it occultic according to scriptures? A trance is simply a spiritual experience anyone can have and it's simply a means by which God reveals revelations to His Prophets. So when the Bible said in Acts 10:10 that Peter fell into a trace it then means Peter is occultic? The prophet was addressing prophetic people in that video explaining to them experiences they would have after prayers to GOD! And he picked a certain time frame from his own experience which is a normal time of prayer for all who keep the night watch. The prophet simply encouraged them not to be afraid of the experience and here you are calling it occultic when you own understanding is the problem. Visions, trances and dreams are all but mediums through which God communicates. When terms are used by Christians don't interpret those terms using your understanding from what ever you interact with outside Christian context. To the pure all things are pure. Also we do not compell anyone to listen to us. So you are free to keep off from the channel.
Admin.
@@translatify8870 the media team is already undergoing training and all our listeners should do is to patiently tolerate their mistakes knowing fully well that the man of God is well grounded in scriptures and also it’s important to allow time possess the things we hear until the Holy Spirit brings us into understanding. We appreciate your comment.
Admin.
There is no mystery here the verse means exactly what it says... "Call no man here on earth Father(Spiritualy) For one is your Father which is in Heaven. No matter the grace or gift the other brethren has or he was saved before you, he is you brother or sister in the Lord period, let not try and contradict what Jesus said it plain and simple
So why does Paul call Timothy his child ? 🤔
@@christ-Revealed ”For though you may have ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, because I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.“
1 Corinthians 4:15 NET
And what is your point in the context of the video or what is the contradiction, and what exactly it contradicticting. Kindly state them clearly.
Admin.
@@christ-Revealed I’m not disputing what Jesus said, there’s context that I can explain as to why Jesus was saying what he said but now Paul said that he became their Father and he goes as far as to say IN CHRIST JESUS through the Gospel … I’m pretty sure no one at Corinth was related to Paul in such manner biologically so was Paul saying something erroneous
@GraceMercy-pz3ip But the same bible says that we are all children of Abraham. Jesus never said that we shouldn't call anyone Father in the spirit. After all its same scriptures that talked about the three levels of Christainity. Which are babe, son, and father. Who are fathers of the faith, they are those who first pioneered a certain dimension of God in their Generation. So you can't use the bible to condemn fatherhood in Chrirainity because Jeuss never preached against itm
I don't agree with this teaching. Exodus 20:12 says "Honor your "FATHER" and mother that it shall be well with you...". Our biological/earthly Fathers we are to call Father. Please do not let yourself be used as one of the false prophets foretold to come in these end times 🙏
He spoke plainly and yet you don't understand. I request of thee with all humility to listen again and ask the Lord to help you.
He never despised our earthly fathers and mothers. He was trying to bring us into the consciousness of we embracing the family we are born into not of flesh but Light...
Is it the same message you listen to or is another message. You completely misunderstood what he meant. I beseech you listen to it again.
@@christ-Revealed When people fail to read the Word of God for themselves, then they'll be easily deceived by men the Jesus Christ Himself warned us all of in the last days. Pick up y'all Bibles and get reading!!
Did the prophet tell anyone in the video to dishonor their parents? So when Jesus said "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." In Luke 14:17 was he a false prophet? Or was he telling us to dishonor our parents. Please learn to listen in context so you can get the clear message. The prophet was emphasizing on discerning our spiritual family in christ.