കഴിഞ്ഞ ദിവസത്തിൽ ഒരു സഹോദരിയ്ക്ക് ഈ വിഷയത്തിൽ മേൽ മറുപടി കൊടുക്കേണ്ടി വന്നു...ഇപ്പോൾ ദാസനിൽകൂടി ദൈവസഭയ്ക്ക് വെളിപ്പെടുത്തി....അവർ വഴിതെറ്റിയ ആടുകൾ അല്ല.നല്ലഇടയനായ യേശുവിന്റെ ആത്മസഽഭാവം ഉള്ളവരായി തീരട്ടെ....അല്ലാത്തതെക്കെയും ദൈവത്തിൻറെ ആത്മാവ് അവരെ നേർവഴിയിൽ നടത്തട്ടെ ..സത്യം അവർ അറിയുകയും ആ സത്യം നിങ്ങളെ സഽതന്തരാക്കുകയും ചെയ്യും ആമേൻ 🙌
Brother. In my knowledge "Trinity"doctrine was introduced in AD325 also it was inititated by catholic church so may I know where have apostles taught trinity and God of Isreal is triune God..?
പുത്രനെ ബഹുമാനിക്കുന്നവൻ: പുത്രനെ ബഹുമാനിക്കുന്നവൻ പുത്രൻ പറഞ്ഞ വചനത്തെ കേൾക്കും, വിശ്വസിക്കും, അതനുസരിച്ച് ജീവിക്കും. #അല്ലാത്തവൻ തന്നതാൻ വഞ്ചിക്കുന്നവനാണ്# [John 5:23-24] “പുത്രനെ ബഹുമാനിക്കാത്തവൻ അവനെ അയച്ച പിതാവിനെയും ബഹുമാനിക്കുന്നില്ല. ആമേൻ, ആമേൻ, ഞാൻ നിങ്ങളോടു പറയുന്നു: എന്റെ വചനം കേട്ടു എന്നെ അയച്ചവനെ വിശ്വസിക്കുന്നവന്നു നിത്യജീവൻ ഉണ്ടു; അവൻ ന്യായവിധിയിൽ ആകാതെ മരണത്തിൽ നിന്നു ജീവങ്കലേക്കു കടന്നിരിക്കുന്നു.” ## യേശുക്രിസ്തു പ്രസംഗിച്ച വചന സന്ദേശം [സുവിശേഷം] എന്ത്? ##
Mr. Chase, You are always copping Br zac Poonen's teachings and his messages. Most of the preachings which i have heard from you is exact copy of br. Zac Poonen's messages and of books.Still you are condemning his teachings.. If he is a false teacher then Why are you reading / listing his messages and books. Do you have victory over sin (pride, lustful thought, greed, self centeredness ) ?.. By crying he meant complete dependence of God and his Grace. With one's own ability its not possible to over come sin. So admit to Lord and plead for Grace... If youhave time please explain this vers.. For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. (Hebrew 4-15)
Your response proves that you belong to a cult. Here is how it stands Exclusivity : The way you address me as Mr, instead of Brother. I know that anyone who opposes any view of Zac cannot be a brother to you. (I had seen a letter written by Zac brother himself about a person who was once close to him terming him to be 'no longer a brother, just for not agreeing on everything. So I understand it is the common practice of the church to understand that only people who are approved by Zac brother are brothers to you. Wrong doctrines Your allegation that i copy from Zac proves it again, Suppose you read a scripture and get an insight. Suppose Brother Zac also had that insight,. It always means you copied from Zac. And let me remind you that our perspectives on election, security of salvation, assurance of eternal hope, and sanctification and obedience are all totally different. Another evidence of being a cult is to religiously hold on to false beliefs like the peccability of Christ. With cults they will be more passionate about that one doctrine that is heretical and will be more sensitive about that one thing. To believe that Jesus could have sinned is heresy and a denial of Christs divinity. (I have explained the verse.you asked in detail.. you may refer to my commentary of the book of Hebrews) Claiming perfection Your question to me as to whether I have victory over particular sins mentioned by you looks like an insinuation that while Zac brother has victory over all such things, i may not have.This is how the theology of self righteousness and personal veneration of your leader originates and thrives in your fellowship, In such fellowships the leader is always right. (but many many people who have left the church may have other stories to tell, which is not of my interest, As for me I do not claim victory in anything, i remain covered and washed by Jesus and he is my victory, This is how we differ in our views on sanctification, My suggestion will be to move away from the appeal of those powerful so called spiritual personalities, believe in only the perfection of Christ, Jesus Christ is our perfection. May God bless you dear brother, /how much glorious it is to belong to Christ and to Christ alone, than cling to mortal men with pretensions of victory, when the truth can be revealed only by God on the day of judgement
@@AssemblyoftheRedeemedChurch.. Br. I used the term 'Mr' in an official respectable way .please don't misinterpret it. Ok..let it be cult itself. Kindly give the single reference of br.zac teaching as jesus sinned..
Sorry for that reference, and thank you for your clarification. Jesus could have sinned is a statement that has big significance. What does it mean. It means Jesus could have sinned, in other words there was a possibility that God could have sinned and lost. It means Trinity could have been disrupted. It means Son would not have been eternal. It means that in an attempt to save us the second person of Trinity would have lost himself. How sad. Otherwise we need to move to a heretical statement that Jesus was not God. Fortunately none of those things happened as you said. Now if you give your number in the email provided I shall send you an audio clip where bro Zac says he over interpreted this and trying to make that debate as not as a major one. That is a confession that it was wrong to assume so. But the teaching went so deep into the church that it became impossible for the system to correct that gross mistake
Mr. Chase explain that words his previous preaching. Find out and hear that message. . Chase not follow Zac poonnan. He follows the word of God. Zaz s preaching is wrong about this matter.
God bless you pastor for the valuable preaching. 🙏
Amen🙏 Sthothram🙏🙏🙏
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Blessed message.... Sthotram Sthotram Sthotram
Thanks for the teaching to select a doctrinal church
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Praise the lord 🙏🙏🙏
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Thank you pastor bless🙏 you abundantly praise the Lord Glory to our Almighty God and saviour hallelujaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa💪🙏
Amen sthothram🙏
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God Bless . Good gospel.
Exeĺlent god bless you bro
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Very good 👍 Amen
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കഴിഞ്ഞ ദിവസത്തിൽ ഒരു സഹോദരിയ്ക്ക് ഈ വിഷയത്തിൽ മേൽ മറുപടി കൊടുക്കേണ്ടി വന്നു...ഇപ്പോൾ ദാസനിൽകൂടി ദൈവസഭയ്ക്ക് വെളിപ്പെടുത്തി....അവർ വഴിതെറ്റിയ ആടുകൾ അല്ല.നല്ലഇടയനായ യേശുവിന്റെ ആത്മസഽഭാവം ഉള്ളവരായി തീരട്ടെ....അല്ലാത്തതെക്കെയും ദൈവത്തിൻറെ ആത്മാവ് അവരെ നേർവഴിയിൽ നടത്തട്ടെ ..സത്യം അവർ അറിയുകയും ആ സത്യം നിങ്ങളെ സഽതന്തരാക്കുകയും ചെയ്യും ആമേൻ 🙌
Sincere words to the word of God ! Thank you dear brother ! Glory to God !
Brother.
In my knowledge "Trinity"doctrine was introduced in AD325 also it was inititated by catholic church so may I know where have apostles taught trinity and God of Isreal is triune God..?
Trinity doctrine is originated from new testament itself. The word trinity is not seen anywhere in new testament.
പുത്രനെ ബഹുമാനിക്കുന്നവൻ:
പുത്രനെ ബഹുമാനിക്കുന്നവൻ പുത്രൻ പറഞ്ഞ വചനത്തെ കേൾക്കും, വിശ്വസിക്കും, അതനുസരിച്ച് ജീവിക്കും.
#അല്ലാത്തവൻ തന്നതാൻ വഞ്ചിക്കുന്നവനാണ്#
[John 5:23-24] “പുത്രനെ ബഹുമാനിക്കാത്തവൻ അവനെ അയച്ച പിതാവിനെയും ബഹുമാനിക്കുന്നില്ല. ആമേൻ, ആമേൻ, ഞാൻ നിങ്ങളോടു പറയുന്നു: എന്റെ വചനം കേട്ടു എന്നെ അയച്ചവനെ വിശ്വസിക്കുന്നവന്നു നിത്യജീവൻ ഉണ്ടു; അവൻ ന്യായവിധിയിൽ ആകാതെ മരണത്തിൽ നിന്നു ജീവങ്കലേക്കു കടന്നിരിക്കുന്നു.”
## യേശുക്രിസ്തു പ്രസംഗിച്ച വചന സന്ദേശം [സുവിശേഷം] എന്ത്? ##
Bible read chey
തങ്കു എന്ന പേര് പോലും സഭയിൽ പറയല്ലേ സഹോദര. തോമസ്കുട്ടി എന്ന പേരും ഉപേക്ഷിച്ചോ. ദൈവം നരകത്തിൽ തള്ളും.
Mr. Chase,
You are always copping Br zac Poonen's teachings and his messages. Most of the preachings which i have heard from you is exact copy of br. Zac Poonen's messages and of books.Still you are condemning his teachings.. If he is a false teacher then Why are you reading / listing his messages and books.
Do you have victory over sin (pride, lustful thought, greed, self centeredness ) ?..
By crying he meant complete dependence of God and his Grace. With one's own ability its not possible to over come sin. So admit to Lord and plead for Grace...
If youhave time please explain this vers..
For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. (Hebrew 4-15)
@thank you brother for the advice.
Can you please show a single reference of zac quoting that jesus had sinned.
Your response proves that you belong to a cult. Here is how it stands
Exclusivity
: The way you address me as Mr, instead of Brother. I know that anyone who opposes any view of Zac cannot be a brother to you. (I had seen a letter written by Zac brother himself about a person who was once close to him terming him to be 'no longer a brother, just for not agreeing on everything. So I understand it is the common practice of the church to understand that only people who are approved by Zac brother are brothers to you.
Wrong doctrines
Your allegation that i copy from Zac proves it again, Suppose you read a scripture and get an insight. Suppose Brother Zac also had that insight,. It always means you copied from Zac. And let me remind you that our perspectives on election, security of salvation, assurance of eternal hope, and sanctification and obedience are all totally different.
Another evidence of being a cult is to religiously hold on to false beliefs like the peccability of Christ. With cults they will be more passionate about that one doctrine that is heretical and will be more sensitive about that one thing. To believe that Jesus could have sinned is heresy and a denial of Christs divinity.
(I have explained the verse.you asked in detail.. you may refer to my commentary of the book of Hebrews)
Claiming perfection
Your question to me as to whether I have victory over particular sins mentioned by you looks like an insinuation that while Zac brother has victory over all such things, i may not have.This is how the theology of self righteousness and personal veneration of your leader originates and thrives in your fellowship, In such fellowships the leader is always right. (but many many people who have left the church may have other stories to tell, which is not of my interest,
As for me I do not claim victory in anything, i remain covered and washed by Jesus and he is my victory, This is how we differ in our views on sanctification,
My suggestion will be to move away from the appeal of those powerful so called spiritual personalities, believe in only the perfection of Christ, Jesus Christ is our perfection.
May God bless you dear brother, /how much glorious it is to belong to Christ and to Christ alone, than cling to mortal men with pretensions of victory, when the truth can be revealed only by God on the day of judgement
@@AssemblyoftheRedeemedChurch.. Br. I used the term 'Mr' in an official respectable way .please don't misinterpret it.
Ok..let it be cult itself.
Kindly give the single reference of br.zac teaching as jesus sinned..
Sorry for that reference, and thank you for your clarification. Jesus could have sinned is a statement that has big significance. What does it mean. It means Jesus could have sinned, in other words there was a possibility that God could have sinned and lost. It means Trinity could have been disrupted. It means Son would not have been eternal. It means that in an attempt to save us the second person of Trinity would have lost himself. How sad. Otherwise we need to move to a heretical statement that Jesus was not God. Fortunately none of those things happened as you said.
Now if you give your number in the email provided I shall send you an audio clip where bro Zac says he over interpreted this and trying to make that debate as not as a major one. That is a confession that it was wrong to assume so. But the teaching went so deep into the church that it became impossible for the system to correct that gross mistake
Mr. Chase explain that words his previous preaching. Find out and hear that message. . Chase not follow Zac poonnan. He follows the word of God. Zaz s preaching is wrong about this matter.
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