How to ACTUALLY Spool a Spinning Reel WITHOUT Line Twist
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- čas přidán 19. 07. 2024
- Everything you have been told about spooling a spinning reel is wrong. There are thousands of how to videos, giving completely incorrect information and leading to million of spinning reels spooled incorrectly. Hopefully this video will give some insight into how a spining reel works, and how to avoid problems with line twist on your spinning reel.
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In 47 years I’ve never seen anything like this. I’ve not even known that amount of attention to detail on spoiling line and line twist. I’m educated!! Many thanks 🙏. Great demonstration. Thanks for taking the time out to pass the knowledge on to others 🇬🇧
Your presentation is the most analytical of all that I’ve seen for spooling a spinning reel. You clearly outlined the problems that cause line twists, and you presented the solution in a concise and interesting way. Learning how to do something through observation and critical thinking is far more beneficial than simply mimicking another’s approach. Well done. You’ve earned my subscription.
Thanks bud. It’s really nice to get feedback like that, much appreciated!
CZcams search: line keeps twisting on spinning reel
1,000 different videos pop up and I'm like, who on Gods green earth is going to have the right information? So I choose your video as my 1st pick. I dont have to watch any other videos now as you have just told me how to solve this horrible issue. 👍, Great vid.
Thanks! Don't worry, I watched them all, that's WHY I made the video!
After spooling the line, 2 added recommendations. If you own a power boat, run most of the newly spooled line into the water.Close the bail then let the line flow freely for a few seconds. Then lay the rod tip just above the water and reel in the line. There will be lots of drag on the line since the boat is moving. This gets the line back onto the reel much tighter than when it was newly spooled. The second recommendation is when using a spinning reel NEVER close the bail by turning the reel handle.Doing so puts a bit of twist into the line and over time can weaken the bail spring. Get in the habit of ALWAYS closing the bail with your hand.
Thanks! Solid advice!
Rick Martin, I’ve used this method for years. It works very well. Thanks
Closing the bail with the handle adds exactly zero twist to the line.
Your idea of letting the line out behind the boat eliminates the twist this useless device in theory is adding to the line… which is why it works.
You do NOT want twist in your casted line.
thanks for the video, that was a great device.
I thought I was the only one who couldn’t get it right! Thank you, my good man, for sharing your findings.!
This makes so much sense! I never thought about the spools being different sizes but as soon as you started to explain that I realized why I always had line twist no matter how I spooled it. Gonna have my tackle shop do it from now on. Thanks for the info.
DrFuNK, only took me 20 years to work it out!
My father tried to explain how the line gets twisted by winding up a power cord around his arm and by that action it would twist the cord. Excellent video that puts it in perspective.
Clear explanation!
I agree the BEST solution is having the tackle shop spool reels for me. And I often buy my line at the shop just for that reason.
BUT sometimes the deal on line is so good, I buy it online.
I have the device you show, and have found it works great. Sometimes it takes a while to get everything all squared up (without the line twisting on the arms, etc.), but once you're moving, it's great!
Thanks for sharing your expertise!
Roger, The Smiling BassHole
I bought one if these line spoolers a year ago, used it 5-6 times, and wouldn't be without it. It's amazing!!
Man, this was so informative. I have one of those devices, but I've been using it wrong. I had the nut too tight, so the flywheel wasn't spinning. Didn't realize it should, but now it makes sense. Thanks for the information.
I thought I was going crazy trying to get my line spooled without the twist that caused havoc. I tried all the techniques recommended by many sources. Great explanation and providing a "duh!" moment. Thanks!
Nice little TWIST towards the end of the video. That thing was the best $35 i ever spent. Works for ALL... spinning, baitcasting, and even inline reels for ice fishing.
Grew up fly fishing and now lake fishing. I have struggled with this problem. This is the MOST informative video on this. Thanks!
Thanks for the positive feedback.
Well done. A lot of thought, common sense and I'm sure trial and error went into your solution. Ordered my winder tonight. Thanks for the excellent video.
Watched your video over 4 years later and Wow! Makes so much sense. I ordered my spooler today . Thanks , no more twist i hope. Lol. Again TY
Thorough treatment of the whys and wherefores of spinning reel line twist--highly recommended!
Thanks Joe.
Great information! I’ve fought this for 45 years and did ok, but you’ve showed a great solution. 30 minutes ago I had heck spooling 2# on a micro ultralight reel. Amazingly I just stumbled across your video and am going to redo it. Thanks a lot for sharing! Best wishes for Big fishes!🎣
Bingo! You hit the nail on the head. The only thing that worked for me for mono on a spinning reel is the Piscifun spooler. I was amazed at how many revolutions of the spool it takes to match the revolutions of the spinning reel. I've tried to lay the spool on a table to match the direction, soaking in warm water, etc and the only impractical solution was to let the line run out behind a boat and spool in. I've switched to braid exclusively but will use mono if spooled with the Piscifun spooler. Not cheap but better than all the twisted mess with the mono. Thanks for your video.
Thank you very much Mark. You’ve taken the mystery out of line spooling. Explaining it perfectly.
No worries! Thanks for the positive feedback.
I've been using this exact line spooler for years & it works wonders! For both mono & braid! Great video!
Excellent explanation! I have been using the spooler for years and it works great. My only complaint is the width of the arms does not accommodate some of the larger spools of line.
Your analysis of what causes line twist is nothing short of brilliant & and even more amazing is that you can describe it terms I can picture and understand. Good Job. Thanks!
Thanks so much!
Now THAT makes sense! When you explained the physics of it, it feels clearer. Thanks!
Good Video, Amazing how even the smallest details can make the biggest difference when fishing. Line tangles have cost me heaps of time on the kayak lately so i might need to invest in one.
fishingmad, Thanks! have just spooled a bunch of reels for my Canada trip. It was so easy, and the line lay is perfect. Very happy camper.
Also invest in a good braid. Try to stay away from power pro, it causes more headaches than its worth. I love verivas for casting my topwaters. And i use ygk for my jigging setups. They're a bit pricey but it makes fishing a spinning setup so much more enjoyable.
One option that worked for me all the time is that once the reel is full and if you have a boat or river close by, you let go all the line in the current and reel it back in. A small weight with a good swivel will help.
Marc Lapointe, I’ve been doing this for years while running slowly in the boat. If you don’t have a boat, tell the wife you need one to straighten your line out. She’ll understand. 😂
Of course, that reverses the twist the useless device is putting on your line.
Just spool up by letting the feeder spool spin.
Finally someone applying science/logic/physics to a basic technique in an original way. I genuinely learned something and you have my forever subscription sir (tipping my hat). Bravo!
Only this isn’t how it works….
@@johnarcher9480 Sure, go ahead and explain.
@@dtffishingmi
When you cast, your line is going to want to remove any twists. So it is going to be in the same basic condition as it was on the feeder spool.
If you held the line, and walked away from the feeder spool while you anchored the spool (pencil through the hole style) the line would be without twists.
You aren’t going to put this thing on every time you cast. As soon as you do cast, anything this thing does, is eliminated anyway.
Just reel in the line off the spool. If you THINK there are twists in the line, cast a larger sinker with a ball bearing swivel on your first cast.
Boom! And twists you had an are gone.
If you don’t need this reeling in line without twists, why do you need it to reel in line from a feeder spool?
@@johnarcher9480 only certain lures and techniques are going to allow the line to untwist after the cast, regardless of whether it wants to or not. It would also never be at the same ratio. I can assure you, my swim baits, in-line spinners and jigs (etc) do not spin around furiously on the retrieve. Your other method involves heading out to the ocean to drop a weight hundreds of feet down and waiting for an hour until all of the twists are removed. I suppose that would work if you can precisely determine the moment it becomes twist-free, but hardly seems as efficient as this method
@@dtffishingmi
So….. when the line is in the air, it has no desire to untwist?
When dealing in those swim baits, that loads the line back on the spool exactly how it would load up using the pencil in the spool method.
You do t need to cast the entire spool… twists in the line that never come off the spool don’t affect the rest of the line.
If you think you have twists, again, a sinker and a ball bearing swivel.
Allows you to cast farther than your lures do, and the swivel allows any line twist that wasn’t eliminated during the cast to untwist as you reel in.
Of course when you reel in, you won’t have this gadget twisting your line for you.
Thanks for the vid. Saw some going spoilers flipping back and forth but your vid was the first explanation and demonstration of the science behind the design. Again, thanks and tight lines to you. JJ
As much I appreciated your tutorial, the demo sold me!! I went to your link and bought one before I came back and subscribed to your channel! Thanks loads!
Great video. My friend's dad always spooled his line from a string
secured to ceiling with a barrel swivel on it. Same principle but I
never really understood why it was better. Now I know.
PostalBound how and why is it secured to the ceiling?? can u explain more how he did it because i dont want to spend $45 on this thing. thanks
Can you give more details on this method please?
@@shudgins48 imagine the part of the contraption that spins, mounted to the ceiling instead of the handle part, and instead of a plastic frame, it's just a loop tied through the swivel and the center of the filler spool. (note that this would be tricky with any filler spool that has a rough lip or any slots for line storage like small spools tend to have. a wire coat hanger clipped in the middle of the flat part so you could mount the spool, and then just hung from a swivel would probably be easier to deal with.)
Hi,
Thanks for your line spooling video. I learned a lot from it.
I have recently returned to carp fishing after a break of many years. I have been fishing for a few months, and I've ruined several spools of line. Now I know why.
You also taught me to seek help from a tackle dealer. My local dealer offers line spooling. So when my current line comes off the spool in a lump, I shall have the replacement properly spooled.
Ken
South Africa
Freaking amazing!! I thought I was losing my mind.
I will say, when I fished as a teenager in the 80s, I respooled my spinning reels without a single thought about line twist, and I gave no consideration to technique. I never...NEVER had a problem with line twist. I used everything from cheap mono to Stren or Trilene.
Fast forward 20 years of almost no fishing after college, kids, etc...suddenly I can't spool a reel anymore. I don't know if they make it differently now, but it's so strange.
I have been basically making sure the line goes on tight, and has at least 1-2 days on the reel under tension before attempting to flip the bail at all....otherwise it just jumps off the spool. Then I start with a fast retrieve artificial on long casts with a snap swivel to help the line straighten itself out. It's been fairly effective, but not perfect
Thank you for figuring this out!
Nice Line spooler!! Like that it will take larger spools of line....Thanks for sharing....
Yeah, that spool was a big spool too... I was impressed that it could handle it.Thanks for watching.
Thanks for explaining, especially how spinning reels release the line twisted and then untwist it back onto the spool.
I'm thinking to do the 'straight-across' method you described the dealers doing, by taking spool off and attaching to a drill somehow, and then putting the big spool of line on a stick so it can turn and then line goes straight across from one to the other, never twisting. Just gotta move it back and forth a bit so it goes on evenly.
I went fishing today and both my reels were throwing big twists and turned into a terrible mess! I was thinking , why would anyone want to fish like this, constantly having to fix your twisted line, even when a fish is on! I came home in frustration and went out and bought a closed reel and rod. Maybe now I can fix my problem with my spinner rods, thanks so much for sharing!!
My line spooler: a pencil and my two big toes. lol! ... Thx video!
Appleblade
I’ve been doing the same exact thing for 55 years !!!!
I’m 65 now...
My dad taught me ...
Think about it this way. With the pencil method you are twisting the line when putting it on, but when casting, you are on untwisting the line the same amount. Mr. Miyagi say ancient tradition; Twist On, Twist Off.
Me too 😀😀😗
It's not that much of a problem if you're using mono or fluorocarbon. But when you're having to wind 300 yd of braid then the twist does become more noticeable. It's not that noticeable with mono or fluorocarbon.
I like to use a piece of wood dowel (about 12 inches long), that will fit through the spool hole. And then, slide the dowel ends through my tennis shoe laces. Then, as I reel line onto the reel, I can apply tension to the spool by moving my feet closer together. Works great. And, saves my toes! 🙂
Learned a lot about this equipment. Thank you for sharing. Keep up the good work and continue to post.
Thank you for posting this! My problem for years after trying many methods as well. Now I can sleep peacefully at night! Lol! No really, and second problem solved also. 241!!!
Thank you! This information is exactly what I was looking for and you did a great job explaining the problems. I bought that spooler through your link and subscribed. Keep up the good work!
Seems like a pretty cool product! Nice work.
25 years of doing it wrong... never knew such a thing existed.
Damn. Best fricken explanation I've ever seen for line twist and I've been fishing hundreds of hours per year for 30+ years. Awesome.
I don't know what's more ingenious...this video or that line spooler. I fought with spinning reels for years and years and finally gave up and used nothing but baitcasters. I do miss using spinning rods so I'm gonna have to get one of those line spoolers and give it a go.
Thanks for the kind words. Link for spoiler is in the description, straight from Amazon.
Great Info mate. May look into getting one.
Lawn Care Evolution. It’s really the only way you can do it yourself and have prefect line lay.
I was impressed with the way you explain why we need line twists
K Julien, thanks, only took me about 20 years to work it out.
Good video bud. I have been having a ton of problems with this exact subject. To the point where I'm loosing yards and yards of brand new braid cause of wind knots because of too much line twist on my spool. Thank you for the info
Bobbi Jo Kulenek, the type/and quality of the braid, the weight of braid, and the brand and type of reel will all play a role in wind knots. Getting the line in the reel correctly is a good start. Also, line tension, that is how tightly the line is put on the spool, you want it pretty sung, as loose line will give terrible wind knots. Best of luck.
thanks mate your video really helps best on here but to save myself anymore frustration I'm off to my local tackle shop to have it done correctly
The first thing I do is put the refill spool in warm water and let it soak a while. The warm water removes the memory of the line on the spool.This works for mono and fluorocarbon lines,then I take a warm moist cloth to keep the line tight . Haven had a problem of line twist . I've been doing it for over 30 years and no problem..
I spool mine normally, then I tie a large swivel to the end of the line and give it to my son. I tell my son to walk out in the yard until my line is down to the knot, I yell to him to stop at which time I start reeling him in. I tell him to keep the line somewhat tensioned as he walks in, and as he does the line untwists as I reel and the swivel spins letting the line do so. It's a lot of steps but I feel it makes a difference.
That’s excellent!
Brilliant! I've done the same tying off to something with the swivel and walking towards it. This would be a great way to do it if you have kids or a really well trained dog! Unfortunately, I have me and an static object. Cheers from Montana!
Great and easy solution. Kids are all grown up. I’m sure my wife will be excited about helping. 😂🤣😂
I think this would work for non braid lines. Braid is too limp to spin the swivel to take it the twist.
Does stringing your line out with a ball bearing swivel attached to the end of the line and a fixed object, create enough tension for, say, 2 pound test to rid itself of line twist?
Love ya man, I never knew that sort of thing even existed! Thanks for revealing it to us and showing how it works.
Thank! Yah, took me a while to work it all out and find this thing, but has made a huge difference.
You are a genius! Thanks for the 'easy to understand' demonstration of how line twist works. Never thought about that.
LOL. Thanks Alex! I almost didn't publish this, then I thought, surely there are people out there that care about this like I do?!? I think the top handful of videos on "how to spool a spinning reel" have like 10 million total views, and the information in them is incorrect.
Marx Fishing totally! This is a breakthrough for me and for others I'm sure! Cheers for sharing..
I would like to order one Great idea Finally
Hi, Great video. I have seen most line twist when the reel is still reeling when the fish is taking drag from the spool.
Yeah. When a fish is taking line don’t reel. Let it run and pull back using the rod and reel down pull up and reel down for fighting fish. Never keep reeling when drag is going out on a spinning reel. Doesn’t matter on other style of reels but still don’t recommend reeling when the fish is pulling drag. Use the rod to turn the fish not the reel.
Common mistake. Never reel when the fish is going.
Nice video Marx. I got some useful tips out of things video as per usual. I hope you keep doing what your doing and grow to a large channel. Reilley
Thanks for watching!
Subscribed! Great video mate! Thanks for the full understanding of line twist and spooling line
Thanks Bud... had me stumped for years, nice to be able to share.
Marx you have answered one of the greatest mysteries known to man, thank you!
Is this the studio video you mentioned? Nice! Some led lights could add a super cool wash to those white walls.
I don’t fish, but my folks do, and I can feel their frustration with this issue!
The Enthusiasm Project, Yes, thanks for checking it out! Yeah, I’ll have a fiddle around on Amazon to see what I can find. My options may be limited, as I live in Australia and many of the cheaper lighting options are 120v only, not 240v. Thanks for the tip!
I actually have one of those and it works very good thank you for sharing👍
Aw man. I had forgotten about those damn things! You can't argue with the science on this one! Great video with great info!! And thanks for the link!
Thanks!
Most excellent. I've been fishing trout since 1970. I will be testing this new method this week. Goodbye snarls.
Have an ECOODA brand of the same thing sitting on my tackle bench already. Bought it on WalMart.com. It's exactly the same just a different color. It works very well but one must watch the speed that your putting the line on as the spool of line can fly off with higher speed baitcasters.
Cool and informative video. Not sure we can get the line spooler here in Romania but I will definitely be looking for one now. Thanks dude.
Dude. Brilliant. I was going NUTS!
that's just awesome thank you for that. I've been putting the spools of line in a big bowl or pot of water so they can flip by themselves but that is awesome
I would rather do like you've been doing it, rather then have to buy a big rigamagig ! Didn't know you could just put it in water and it would create its own flipping / twisting ? Interesting, how does that actually work ?
@@charlesleblanc6638 line spooling hacks (no line twist) is the name of the vid from target walleye. Its not the original video i learned it from but its basically the same with the warm water. Good luck.
Thanks Will for answering my question. I'll look it up.
Xlnt vid. I had never seen a line spooler before this. Thank you.
Amazing invention. Thanks for the video
Hi mate, great video which I've only just come across. Love your explanations. My only addition is that line tension plays a big part when spooling braid. Unlike mono, you really want to wind on the braid pretty tightly. This helps eliminate any line twist memory. Mono or fluoro are different of course as they also suffer from spool memory as well as line twist.
Great video again Mark, can you do a video on tips for creating time to go fishing 😂
Lol. Yes... that's why we all watch other people fish on here!
Great video . Thanks
So relatable rn lol
Lmao
Excellent presentation as there was no confusion in your instruction. Well done.
Wow, that's amazing.. I really have to get one.
That was very instructive, thank you. I better understand now why there is always line twist.
Stumbled onto this vid! Luv it!
Very, very interesting. I've got your link for the spooler and will order one right away, thank you.
Awesome tip brother, will have to try it. Thank you
4 DA KIDZ Fishing, thanks for watching! Hope you’re having an awesome summer over there.
I'll tell you this... I'm going to try this gizmo!! They should pay you for your video, big time.
he invented it
Thanks for this video. I know it’s an old one know. But, like you I’ve been watching lots of contradictory video methods. What you say makes good sense. I might invest in one of those winders. 🤓👍🎣🇦🇺
When I add line to my spinning reel, I connect a snap swivel to an end and connect it to my fence. Next I walk the line out to my desired length and connect it to my spool. I walk and reel the line in with medium tension allowing the snap swivel to remove any unwanted twist. Then I repeat the process again. It seems to work for me. Living in a rural area helps. I wouldn't run line on concrete or asphalt. Thanks for the great explanation!
Great video and great exclamation.
Thanks. :)
Anybody who's ever pulled Romex wire should have a pretty good understanding of this concept
Poof! There goes my mind. So simple yet I never thought about it. Opening day was a nightmare with wind knots and line jumping off my bail. THANK YOU!!
That was way groovy cool awsome gajet got to get one for my cat fish and crappie poles....
Great info! Thanks for posting this.
Great personality and fun. Great explanation.
Some spools float I just throw them overboard and spool away, I like your rig better, in a pinch water works pretty well.
Incredible!! Super stoked. Rock on!!
Thanks!
Cool video and gadget , I might have to get one . Believe it or not , in the 50 years I have been fishing , I seldom have had issues with line twist and very seldom use a swivel .
well thought out demostration,,ezy to understand and follow..thx.
Interesting video and item. Might invest in one. Thanks for sharing. Regards Stephen (UK)
Awesome explanation. Thank you!
Thx man. This video is a bit old, but I learned a ton. Thank you
Got one works great
Wow! What a video. Yeah, I wouldn't go buy that contraption the spool on floor method works for me . IDEA: CUT OFF 100-150 yards of line then tie it on and spool through a phone book for tight spool or tention.
Beautiful vid bro thank u for that 👌
Excellent explanation and demonstration. Thanks.
I have spinning reels and I also have conventional reels will that device you have work for both thank you so much for your hard work
Nice Video! Awesome Information. I want one of those for sure!
Thank, yah, mine has spooled lots of reels now. Makes a big difference.
years and years-------thank you for a video that explains it!!!
I've never had issues with line twists and I've been using spinning reels since I was a child. Most people that ik that have issues put to much line on.
I've never had issues either as long as you dont spool it to the max. Gotta leave a lip. I pinch the line by the first guide from the reel just to add a little tension then crank away and the spool bounces around on the ground until I get to a desired amount on.
Hard to believe that someone has never had line twist. Especially fishing as a child.
Absolutely superb didactic video. Did you go to Toastmasters? Your delivery is seamless, your voice is pleasant and it was worth nine minutes of our time. Thanks again.
I never knew this was a problem until now.. lol #ordered! Cool video
wow, thanks for the explanation... reel spool going in my lathe shortly :)
When I used to fish I made a spindle out of a small bolt about three inches long that would go through the spool after removing it from the reel . I'd put a bolt with a flat washer on it and put the line spool on a similar spindle with a lock nut being the only difference which I'd tighten as a tensioner . I'd put this assembly with the spool of line mounted and tensioned on it into a vise . The line I'd then tie on the spool with a Vic Dunaway ' uni knot ' . Then using the spool from the reel chucked in the electric drill I'd just load it using my free hand as the rail guide on a bait caster type reel . Never had a problem with twist .
Brilliant!thanks for sharing.
The device you showed would definitely work for mono. Braid is typically wound on much tighter, or else you get the line burying in on itself under drag. I would be interested in seeing how a braid filled spinning reel fares under heavy drag using the spooler you showed.