How BS6 "Phase 2" Going to Kill "17" Great Cars Including "ALTO"!
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- In the last couple of years, we are seeing that emission norms are getting strict day by day, which are making cars really expensive, and other than emission norms safety regulation and higher taxes are also playing a vital role in increasing the prices of vehicles,
But New Bs6 Phase 2 Norms will not only make cars further expensive but also due to this norm almost 17 cars will be discontinued
And this video we will deep dive into this very topic and will try to understand exactly why so many cars are getting discontinued in India
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There is one thing that I would like Highlight. If I mainly talk about OBD and PGM, then here we should have mentioned motorcycles, as the significant impact of these two applications will be on motorcycles as cars are already equipped with these and will only receive advanced versions of Specially PGM for better efficiency, but these technologies are now forced upon two-wheelers after new norms which will significantly increase their prices.
hybrid is the future for atleast 50 to 70 years start from mild to strong to phev, side by side lithium recycling plants be developed.
Unwanted carbon rules 👎👎👎, Clim@te ch@nge is a lie!!! (Hype) Nature is free, system makes you a slave ✌️
Yeh govt. to general public kafi loot Rahi ha aur Dara be Rahi he, bata nahi kyu lok ase govt. Ko elect karte ha.
@@sohanlal464 control norms were going to come, its an obvious truth. We want to optimise things, not to let them run wild without any consequences.
Idk what it has to do with what govt is in power
Aapko sirf sab sasta chahiye, par sasta se sab kuch nahi chalta na.
Tata altroz bs6 f2 is available is only diesel hatchback in the market
European style emission norms without European style roads, infrastructure and cars+high taxes is suicide for a country with 47% manufacturing GDP from automotive sector.
100% correct 👌
Agreed
Totally agreed.
Tax for income
And for the products and service
Witht that money too
abey bsdk, fir teri ammi kahegi ki pollution hai road pe govt kuch karti kyun nahi, saley bc tum log sirf criticize karney k liye paida huey ho mc bc
pollution se logo ka bura haal hai aur jo log solo travelling kaney k liye bhi car use kartey hai
NCAP: Poor build quality cars are killing people.
Indian GOV: let's add 69 airbags.
😂😂 parachute bhi de do ab to
@Brave Gun Tiago??
@@SR_superior_1000 to 4 lakh me tiago thodi na ati hai bro.
😂😂😂😂
@@madhavpatil2221 yes, for example we have to have 2 airbags for our balls.
So for 4 men 8 airbags and so on.
Can't wait for it. I for one want to buy a wagon r for 30 lakshs ex showroom made out of cardboard and pay 200 rs for a litre of petrol to only get stuck in traffic and bad roads. It's my dream 🤩
😂😂true bro thats gonna be the fact of this developing country
If a Wagon R sold for 30 lakhs then I can bet the roads would be empty except for public transport. Therefore, no traffic. Checkmate 😎
wow!
Ye sahi hai Guru.. 😂
Jai hind🇮🇳
Government: "let's reduce co2 emission in cars"
Also Government: "mixes more ethanol while not reducing price"
Ethanol blending reduces emissions 🙄
@@akb14341 no way, I'm pretty sure the governments are funding those research. After all Alcohols are just hydrocarbons with -OH attached to it
The only real thing it does is reduce mileage and it overtime corrodes your cars because burning alcohol produces water + CO2
I don't really see the benefit of us forcefully buying adulterated petrol as they didn't even bother reducing the price and it's actually going up now. They either way produce lesser waste than electrical vehicles whose lithium-ion batteries create a lot more waste and because their performance isn't that good people replace it with lead batteries in series connection connecting like 4-5 lead batteries which is the worst. Lead batteries are recycled by hand even in the modern day. And if you don't realise heavy metal (lead) is toxic to every living organism in the world, global warming just warms the earth effecting some living beings (which can be avoided if you just plant more trees, we found way(s) to mend the ozone back, however it isn't revealed to the public but in the 1970s the ozone layer was pretty much like 60-70% depleted, no way we would have survived like that especially with a growing population then)
@@akb14341 Not if you take into consideration the emissions produced to grow sugarcane, transport it and then turn it into ethanol. Ethanol production and sugarcane growing are both very water intensive.
Govt. K liye saab se easy targets hum lk hi hh.. so bekaar ka BS6 norms wa saab le krr atee hh.. jaida kuch nhi harassment baadh jataa gh
@@surjanarayangorai8241 meanwhile Modi Ji on his jet 😎
Loved that the whole audience of biturbo is mature enough. Good Job Biturbo Media for making us understand every single thing related to cars.🎉
wouldnt say whole audience, one car post and people get horny for defending their fav car brand and attacking others for preferring some other brand
i seriously dont get whats so important about which car you own, and especially which car someone else owns.
But yes, this channel is good, i dont even like automobiles but i follow this channel.
This is probably only channel where you don't see all those legend comments bs
7:32 really disappointed by this part
It was not just because of poor sales but these 800 cc engines were were only used in one car only
For example K10 engine is been used in several cars so upgrading it will have any meaning but upgrading the 800cc engine will not only increase the cost but also might become similar to K10 price
Even if Alto 800 and k 10 was on top list of highest selling hatchback combined for lot of months
And also because of safety norms like 6 airbags etc which is not viable in small car MS officially said this
Pls don't copy the things from articles blogs like autocar and other sites who writes bogus things which is not even true!!
Felt like you copied those than actually researching but deeper
Human
And I'm with my Avon.
Jis hisab se sarkar tax choos rhi hai .. yehi krna pdega bhai sabko
That day is not far when ur favourite car will become 10x times more expensive after 10 yrs
And me with my hero cycle
🔥
Emission rules strict krdo, road constructions ke liye no rules, petrol hike ke liye no rules...middle class ko life mei bs middle mei hi rehne do 😊
2024 m BJP jit gyi toh mahangai aur badhegi😢
@@khalnayak7606 Koi bhi jeet jaye
Middle class ko middle finger hi milega
@@khalnayak7606 I don't think so. As soon as the inflation reached 7.1% , RBI decided to reduce it down. It's going down btw. We are talking about the war situation btw. We still had inflation of 9% before 2014, one of the major reasons why the previous government collapsed.
The previous government focussed on growth, ignoring inflation. The current government focuses more on inflation and at some point, they are compromising the GDP growth.
@@khalnayak7606 aur congress aayi to fir se pakistan nakli note ka karobar karegi.
Gadkari thinks he's doing a lot of great work and lives in an imaginary world. He's lost his touch with the middle class.
The problem is even worse with bike market
Because in bs6 phase 1 the introduction of Catalytic converters increased the prizes of commuter bikes by 20-25%
Well Honda Splendour sells at 95k after all the taxes which shows how much the ex showroom prices has been increased in Indian auto and bike sector,
As earlier at this range we got Pulsar 180 or 200 , Apache 180, Xtreme 160 or 200, Gixxer, hornet and CB unicorn Dazzler etc,
@@Account-nx3ui ever heard inflation to income ratio.
Electric bike kharid le
@@okman9684 sab chinese hai
Jab tak India ki khud ki lithium battery Industry na ban jaye tab tak nhi
Or wese bhi wo to or bhi mehngi hai normal IC engines wali bikes se
@@Account-nx3ui Inflation wagarah ka to pta nhi lekin commuter segment ki bikes kaha itna pollution kr pati hai
Unko catalytic converter kuch khaas jarurat nhi
Jarurat to govt ki Roadways bus ko hai
These norms are slowly but surely killing the car culture in india, its so sad
It will never. Bcs for most Indians car is a status symbol not transportation. So don't worry
@@hakshayak2044 status symbol for most people, not necessarily car enthusiasts, we love cars for what they are, not as status symbols
No need for dumb car culture like America. Just use it as necessity and nothing else
@@svgaming2716 Your "Car enthusiasts breed" is less than 2 %, so no one cares.
Maximum people just want affordable and fuel efficient cars.
@@svgaming2716 bro I remember in 2015 my neighbour and we use to prefer to buy a car between 5lakh to 15 lakh now people see cars at least above 15 lakhs , do'nt know why but craze of cars will never end 🙏👍
ngl, gadkari is way overrated.
he is pushing crap into automotive industries just make himself seem ‘ revolutionary’.
he knows that he isn’t going to be part of the ministry in 2024, so he is collecting all that he can in these years.
India never had proper enthusiasts and car culture...but it started growing slowly...and now govt is going against them...its a shame now
Car culture is anyways Dumb.
Don't need cars in India like America. Just use it as a necessity and nothing else.
where's the roads & traffic sense for enthusiasts ?
Uske liye infrastructure acha hona chahiye. City me traffic itna hai. Highways pe speed limits km hai.
Jgh jgh speed violation cameras installed hai. Kha dikhaoge enthusiasm??
what else can govt do when all of Indian cities are suffering from high air pollution? either live few more years or drive a deiseal car
@@sjgghosh7677 We are here for good time not long time 😂🗿
Nothing feels bad than seeing Discontinuing Disel Engine 😢
Diesel fun miss by these generation & with fuel efficiency
True Man, Diesel car chalane mein jo Mazza hai wo Petrol mein kaha...Petrol Car mein to Power hi Feel Nahi hoti...
I own 2014 Model BOLERO SLX, Jo iske Diesel Engine ki aawaaz hai uska koi Match Nahi koi Mukabala Nahi...Mere Ghar mein Diesel SWIFT aur i20 Elite bhi hai But jo Mazaa BOLERO chalane mein aata hai wo in Dono mein Kaha...I really LOVE My Diesel Bolero very very very Much...
So is buying a diesel car now sensible?
@@navreetrandhawa1990 bolero is too much laggy bro i’ve driven it slowest diesel car acc to me
@@JosephKarthic depends on will u be able to recover the price diff btw the petrol nd diesel model which has gone upto 3 lakh onroad
Basically the government is implementing all the Western norms when it comes to safety and emissions, but is forgetting to implement the lesser tax norms.
And with the new Lithium mine found in India, and with discussions complete with the Argentinian government regarding mining their lithium mines, I believe India soon will be targeting to ditch the IC engines completely.
this will effect the slow growing car culture in india petrolheads will suffer due to hybrids and ethanol blending... diesel lovers will miss that huge torque rush
the government killed the car culture before it even became a big thing. Can't have shit in India
Truly said 👍
Why will "petrolhead" like diesel
@@axel3895 he said "diesel lovers" afterwords why are you picking on him for small stuff?
@@axel3895 drive a 530d you will get your answer
Octavia aur Superb se bada industry ko loss ho nahi sakta. Really a sad day for car enthusiasts. 😔
Restrictions are ok but government should first strengthen their public transport system so more people start using them which will result in less emissions. I've seen people driving suv to work/office just for the sake of getting acknowledged by the colleagues that he drives this and that.
Secondly cyclist passages should also be made wherever feasible by the government like the West so people could feel safe driving cycles on dedicated passages.
Agree the state transport is in poor condition in almost majority of states and people are forced to take their private vehicles also the fares despite of giving subsidies for fuel are on expensive side hence it doesn’t make sense in travelling with state transport.
Govt vehicles : I'm incredibly privileged.. No rules for me
Haaa bilkul in haram khoro ki vahiyaat buses aur gadiya chalti rhengi vhi purani par middle class bande ki car pe nazar hai inki bass uske sath karte hai duniya bhar ke changes
Going back to the times when owning a car was considered a luxury
Man i was saving to buy a budget second car but seeing this video the price for second hand car will also go up 😞
They are already up...check the market...I postponed my Plan...
I have a simple rule. If I have to buy anything that I can touch, it has to be Japanese. The Japanese craftsmanship is the best in the world. Their cars, watches, electronics and everything is best in the world. Hell, their clothes are also one of the best , for eg, Uniqlo. They make the best basics in apparel.
japan chale jaday
@@atharvagarwal325 kahi aur jaake apni G mara
Seedhe muh bol na ki tu weeb hai
Asli Japanese toh Honda and Toyota hai Maruti suzuki to lagta nahi hai, Japanese quality ko dekha jaaye
@@atharvkhare2005 lol suzuki international market dekh fir bol suzuki motorcycles dekh kabhi like hayabusa vstorm intruder etc learn something kid
As a car enthusiast myself, I only have the bs4 Scorpio and BS4 Alto 800 with me now with the old tech. Great engines and power. Even the alto is a beast of an offroader.
Gonna keep it for longer.
The new BS6 Bolero which is also there dosent feel the same anymore .
BS 4 is not at all old tech.
If you have maruti 800 carburator before BS norms even came out, then it could be called old at least.
@@SoibT2166 I am having Carburetor model, It's simply a Zero Maintenance car
@@EdgewithHedge Totally.
@@SoibT2166 thats the point, the car companies make the impression that its old tech but for me its just as advanced and even better than the hastily created engines these days.
It's a good step considering enviornment factor, but one problem is with all these tech savy upgrades vehicle and bikes getting more complicated so even for a small problem you have to go to a service centre.your local mechanics can't repair them any more.
Govt want to extract more money from people
Lord Alto supremacy 🛐
Metro supremacy solution to many problems is metro
Bro Lord alto 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
New alto k10 is 1000* better
@@IND4LIFE K10 CNG is worth buying? It's giving 25 km mileage inside city!
old k10 is best 👍👍👍👍💯💯💯💯💯💯
Dnt understand how vr losing diesel cars slowly under 10 lakhs, our cars are becoming so costly, whereas in US they still have v6 & v8 engine cars. Plz make a video on difference in norms in India & US.
Because it's the US,you can get a V8 engine car under 40 lacs and what not
Instead of banning stubble burning,they are behind only cars as if it's the only thing causing pollution in India
You will get fat ass diesel cars with 3000cc engine in the US but still their city's AQI is not more than 30-40, meanwhile here taxes ke wajah se 1k-1.5k cc cross nai hota,usme bhi bharat standard ke nakhre aa jaate hai🤦🏻♂️yeh sab ke baad bhi humara AQI 100-200 kaise cross kar jaata hai🫠
India is probably doing this to combat pollution but it doesn't realise there are bigger reasons for pollution
@@divitkarekar5803 40 lakh & 50k usd hve so much PPP difference
@@divitkarekar5803 agree.
@@divitkarekar5803 Because farmers ko kuch bola to andolan hoga and votes chale jaenge. Simple.
P.S : Not against farmers, they're already suffering a lot but stubble burning, construction work and coal power plants cause much more pollution than vehicular emissions.
It is good to see that the government is moving forward seriously regarding the environment, which is probably not even an issue for people in countries like India.
Ghanta
@@rithwikprajwal5979 we have more concerning issue.. like high cost of living 🙃
i have seen worse pollution levels of delhi, when i was kid in 2000s buses were running on diesel, people can't just breath on roads, people like me survived (had asthma-not chronic) thanks to cng buses and metro. Delhi Population now almost tripled, most people don't know what struggle a kid or a elderly person pay to fight visible yet invisible killer i.e air pollution.
p.s. people don't born with asthma they caught it because of living in bad air for longer.
Right 👍
@@kapilmeena8839and low income
गडकरी की भसड़ है, वो अपने आप को ज्यादा साना समझता है😅
कार की कीमत बढ़ती जा रही है,
असलियत में कार लोअर मिडिल क्लास की पहुँच से दूर हो चुकी है।
Sahi bola bhai 😂😂😂
Sahi.
Mein pehle pasand karta tha unko
Aaj kal Road projects wagera acche se banwa raha hain woh. Par Car enthusiasts ke baare mei soch nahi raha woh mc ka baccha
Bhai Altroz Diesel is not discontinued in any time , it's already upgraded to bs6 phase 2 😊
Really love the way you narrate .
Why those norms not apply to industries ?? Only for common ppls cars only
Maybe cars ke emissions jyada hai industries se, isliye
@@siddhantkadam9013 emission to emesion hota to rules to sab jagay hone chahiye n industries pr bhi to rule hone chahiye
@@bhaumikdarji9341 rules sabko hote hai bhai apne ko kya pata , abhi samjho nhi rahenge , agar kisne apan ko option diya ki vehicle emission Kam karna hai ya industries , definitely vehicle choose karunga.Vehicle emissions Kam karna thoda kum challenging hai compared with industries. Industries pai instant rules impose karne se unka bohot jyada farak padtay maybe isliye vehicles emissions pe gov focus kar rahi hai
@@siddhantkadam9013 lol dude usa has the most number of cars but still their environment and air quality is in the top in world cars are not the major cause of pollution but industries and geographical location is the main cause
@@anushbhandary1441 plse ekbaar Maine Jo likha hai ekbar achese padho , idhar mai comparison nhi karna cha raha hu , rules impose karne ki challenges ki baat kar raha hu , hum sirf articles se knowledge nhi to info leke bol sakte hai ki vehicles , industries ka emissions jyada horay but impose karne ke baad challenges ki koi baat nhi karta . Industries pe agar impose bhi karna hai rules bohot slowly karna padega. AUR HA BHAI IDHAR MAI GALAT HU SAHII HU MUJHE OBVIOUSLY NHI PATA , MUJHE JO LAGA VO OPINION DIYA BAS. ABHI PHIRSE MUJHE REPLY REPLY KE KHEL MAI MAT BULAO PLSE
Superb is the only Car in the segment it shouldn’t be discontinued like octavia
Even Octavia is the only car in the segment
@@madhavpatil2221 more no of sales than Camry and Octavia. Also Superb is seen more than both other cars
Also powerful and More Classy n Sporty And Looks like A6.... Camry look good but superb is on another level
@@madhavpatil2221 Camry has been long discontinued
@@chamankudmarbettu5675 ?. Its available Since 4 years.Not Discontinued
Government kuch jyada he strict ho rahi hai... Aur bahut jaldi jaldi norms ka Rahi hai... Minimum 5 yrs honi chahiye thi dusre norms ko apply kar dena chahiye tha....
Government bas Ameer logon ke liye kaam Kari hai aisa lag rha h... Thoda tax ghata de toh kya ho jayega
bhai vo tax bhi to tum logon pr lg rha hai.
@@bhattrhino4836 haa
Ohhhh kaunsa tax lagraha h humpe , aaye din toh gareebi chaa Rahi h
The more the electronic circuitry is imbebbed, the more cost escalation is with the purchase and subsequent repairs. Due to this reason, i am still sticking to my 2000 model Indica which is giving amazing mileage of 20kmpl in city and 23-25 kmpl on highway driving and almost negligible repair expenses. Her servicing cost is also quite low to 2500/- rs with genuine oil filter and oil change.
Why to waste money on newer cars.
How are you still able to run it?
Indicas are great man. My friend has a 2005 model and it's really awesome
I'm using a maruti 800 model 1996 that was used by my grandfather and it's still running well without any problem. I always do reapair when a small problem is detected making it's life longer. Also I can drive it in off road without much care because of it's high ground clearance unlike the cars nowadays with lower clerance. Many might not know but maruti 800 despite being a 800cc car is a beast In the jungle as well as the hillly roads of Northeast india
Every car/bike prices are so increased now a days... thinking of buying new bike for my dad...but all good bikes are now 1 lakh+...looked for 2nd car market...all the 4-5 year old cars are in same price as they use to be in those years...seems like cars are appreciating asset now
Bro...faced the same issue...
@@rajprashy8799 😢
Haaan bhai kya hi karey itna bhao bhar gya hai...
I live in Hyd and almost 90% of the pollution comes from state Buses and Auto Rickshaws. These days, almost every cab maintains their car. Unless state govt replaces all the local commercial vehicles to EV, pollution is not going to decrease.
Its a great initiatives by centre govt to reduce pollution, what about state?
dont know about you but I see more e rickshaws in UP now compared to cng lpg rickshaws (green yellow/black yellow ones)
and its not even big cities, I'm talking abou tier 2 cities like prayagraj where my college is.
Comparing bus to cars is not ideal as well, firstly most city busses are already using cng/lpg. secondly, bus carries equivalent to 10 cars or more (40+ pax). My hometown lucknow itself has just 260 city busses out of which 100+ are electric already. I can assure you, cars are above 2,60,000in number or more than 100x number of busses.
Yes, bus pollutes more than one car, but for all the busses to pollute more than all cars, one bus needs to pollute 100x more than 1 car which is simply not true. At worst, even a 20yo diesel bus will pollute only 3-4x as one car when talking about pollution per passenger.
@@shresthsonkar9207 Wow, that is really awesome in your city and state. I live in Hyderabad which is a capital city of Telangana.
In Hyderabad, 90% of the autos are LPG which contributes extreme pollution, whenever you drive behind autos, the white smoke is really thick and pollutes a lot.
I can still see buses which run on Diesel which emits really thick black smoke. By looking at these buses they might be at-least 15 to 20 yrs old. I have hardly seen any EV buses, might be 2-3. Its really pathetic here and I am really happy that things are changing in UP.
Things are not getting better with this present govt, its really a high time for BJP to rule.
@@AVINASHSINGHKHALSA it is possible that electric bus is not plying on your frequent route so you may not be seeing those
E rickshaws yes, I think those may not be that popular in hyd yet
Sounds good but what about a vehicle that cannot be used for more than 15years despite its good condition. It may lead to more financial burden on lower income groups and most of them will be constantly trapped in the EMI cycle in their life.
The government does not care. Unko to sarkari gaadi milegi nayi wali
Bro even the prices of bicycles have increased drastically my one is hercyles dynamite which costed me near 6k and nowadays new bicycles costs above 20k😢
Bs6 ke waja se hua hoga sayad.
@@rtg69😂
@@rtg69
🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂
its because of inflation! Indian ₹ which was stronger against $ decade ago now goes for ₹80 that's why
Insurance coat bhi bad gyi hogi tumare cycle ki.
trouble for manufacturer turns more or less into trouble for buyers.
Govt is doing great by trying to reducing emissions but they should also give relaxation to customers in tax so that they can purchase. As they can see the prices are going higher and higher and causing trouble to customers.
The way you narrate the anything is really really appreciable
Pgm-fi sounds like closed loop ecu control which is already implemented on all cars (even on few bikes) the main issue would be cafe2 and lowering emission and fuel consumption targets
Missing the days before lockdown we had very iconic and best cars with good pricing 😢
😢😢
I remember i bought my new WagonR 1.2 in 2019 latest model bs 4 in just 5.5 lacs and now that mid variant costs approx 7 lakhs
being a middle class person i had saved money from long time to buy a second hand car but after seeing its prices my heart really got wrenched😮💨Thanks to the government and other rich peoples let them enjoy
There are two options :
1. Buy cheap cars that violate all norms.
Or
2. Pay more to buy efficient vehicles and save future of your children. The day is not far when we will have to carry 1liter oxygen cylinder while going to office.
Vehicular emissions' contribution to the overall pollution is much less than construction work, industrial pollution, stubble burning and coal power plants. If one really wants to save the future then these things should be stopped before targeting vehicles.
MY THAR BS6.2 ARRIVED AT DEALERSHIP IN MARCH END. I WAS ABLE TO BILL IT BEFORE PRICE HIKE ANNOUNCEMENT HENCE GOT BS6.2 CAR FOR OLD PRICE😄😄
Don't worry youre vehicle will be for testing for bs6 phase 2 by company for performance
Best way to exceed expectations from emission norms:
Improve oil pump design to use very high viscosity index engine oil (VI 200+).
This will stable the fuel economy.
If the above is not done, then a lot of improvements need to be done and cost will increase more.
At this rate it would be ecomical bad decision to buy a car for middle class in upcoming years a Alto costs 5 lakhs maybe this is the ache din Modi government wanted to bring
Both parties are equally horrible. Modi government is killing the automotive industry. And opposition is supporting anti nationals. I'm just going to leave this failed state and go live somewhere else
@@imperialenforcer2271 sab ek he thali ke hai
@@imperialenforcer2271 Yes go and find a country where inflation is lower than it is in India currently... even US has it way higher post COVID economic slump 🤷♂ Everywhere IC engines are fading away and EVs are the new norm...
it is popular saying that a successful country is not where everyone including poor drive cars, rather where EVERYBODY, including RICH, use public transport
Yeah! It's effect indian car culture lekin isse ek fayde ho rha hai environment ko thodha he shi lekin ho rha hai aur ek chota step future ke liye important hai😅
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Cars and bikes mai safety measures important hai 75% of the unfortunate death road accident mai hoti hai india mai
Don't discontinue diesel engine because we can run these vehicles with biodiesel which is good. specially when we make biodiesel with Seaweed.
No one cares they just wanna make money. If they cared they'd implement tax breaks on hybrids and wouldn't raise the price of CNG.
Dheere dheere karke aise he ek din Thar scorpio fortuner aur kayi Indian favourite SUVs bhi discontinue ho jayengi kyuki future is EV 😢
We will miss those beasts
Thoda muskil hai
Kyunki in SUVs pr Thode margin ache hote hai
EV version aa jayega😂
Yar par aawaj to chali jaegi. EV me to bas woosh karke awaz aaegi.
@@sidharthkumar2546 abhi konsi tumko regular gadi se lexus LFA ya lamborghini ferrari ki exhaust note aati hai?
You guys get worked up about sound and feel as you drive sportcar instead of raised hatchback or normal hatchback (RIP Sedan market)
10 month waiting period means that the dealer will get the car from the company in 10 months. So, it is not a customer side issue unless if no unit is available in stock from any of the dealers in the district, which is very rare.
This is because dealers always keep some units of most of the cars in their warehouse.
Indian Govt:
Fails to build good roads with taxpayers' money
Hence Indian Govt:
Makes such strict norms that's going to put automakers out of business
Modiji:
Modern problems require modern solutions ❤❤
They are buildings good roads , currently Indian government is doing excellent work in road infrastructure but they are also rushing towards European style emissions and pushing EVs with out thinking the outcome.
ha bhai tere abba congress ne toh bohot hi badhiya roads diye they autobahn jo diya hai purey india mein
Indians are so intelligent, instead of voting against the government for such decisions, they will vote, on basis of Fictional movie Kerala Story(fictional called by Court) and religion, or Tv news anchors debates on india - Pakistan.
Such important issues will never be discussed by Media houses..
Middle class kaise cars buy kare phir? 😑
Fictinal movie where girls become Isis terrorist? U must be a Isis sympathizer.
Considering the damages done to environment, , we must be ready to face such big changes in automobile engineering.
Any further depletion /damage to environment may be irreversible forever.
yes but we allow those commercial vehicles which are the main reason for pollution and continuously destroying forests and lakes
@@ayushgarg7033 Commerical vehicles are something that can't be eliminated immediately or put under stricter norms within short time frame.
Though they do pollution but still as they play a major role in keeping the people's daily life run, , can be taken for shake for now.
But This is not in case of personal vehicles.
A report says that upto 38% personal vehicles as used unnecessarily like for tour, , solo drive, and others where as this is not in case of commercial vehicles.
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And also, , personal vehicle plays a significant role in pollution upto 60% of vehicle pollution.
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theek h tu bailgaadi chala.
@@SuniL.KrishnA agreed but the point to notice is "Vehicular Pollution" which max 40-45% so even if we reduce the car's polution by 5% (which is very difficult as BS6 already left very little room) we are essentially reducing pollution by 2-3%.. and in return we are putting stress on everyone..
for govt - pollution is an excuse -real target is to minimise/ stop oil imports & thus stop terrorist funding .
Don't Saudi Arabia & UAE give 2-3 billion dollar each to pakistan , EVERY year ??
someone said " petrol / gaadiyo ke daam me aag lag bhi jaaye to logo ke gharo me aag nahi lagegi "
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Tightening the emission norms is good. But other things like
1.Quality of Roads
2.Driving discipline
3.Regularizing the fuel cost.
4.Improve last mile transport infrastructure.
5.Road widening
6.Pedestrian infrastructure
7.Pesestrian discipline.
It is not just the government but also people participation is required to achieve desired goals.
good luck to old mechanics... they are going to need it
"exhaust system to beta kuch dinon mein sonaar ki dukan pe milega"
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catalytic convertor theft is very common in USA because it contains platinum, it already sells on soonar ki dukan there.
How do we convey to the government that we are against this bogus system of increasingly unattainable norms?
Thats the neat part you can't. They can do whatever they want. Didn't congress do the same despite knowing welfare state with closed economy and high taxes will only lead to more poverty. They don't care about common people. Stubble burning causes more pollution but did they ban it?? Nope because that's a core vote and they vote together as a block just like a caste or religion but petrolheads and middle class don't vote like that and that's why govt loots middle class.
By not electing these people
Unattainable norms? All these norms are attainable. These norms are the same as Euro 6 norms. We're just catching up!
@@pranay_princeAre you 🤡?
I sometimes wonder with all those advancement and norms fuel consumption will be efficiently governed, well my opel corsa still manages to click 16kmpl ...that too in city conditions. Whereas most of latest cars claim 17.5 or 19.5 that too on ideal driving conditions. In city they manage 15 or so...baffles me.
I'm literally so happy that at least some of the most unsafe cars including the Alto 800 are being discontinued
I will miss Alto 😢
Alto is not just a car it's an emotion
Alto k10 is there 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Alto 800 is going to bs discontinued not k10
@@VENOM_KR Seriously man, these people crying out loud all the time. Also they want to take the same emotional car to 120 kph expressways and block all traffics behind them.
@@Eren-da-Jaeger Alto 800 ka sheet bahut bakwas quality ka tha
Mtlb worst out of worst
Itne se patthar se bhi damage ho jata tha
@@VENOM_KRnah in future there might be a new k10 baesd 800 might come
@@Mayank_Maximum
Future 🤣🤣🤣 bhai abh aur nhi Ane wali 800cc ki gadiya waise bhi jis tarike se price badh rha hai gadio ka....
That's not real reason, real reason is people are just not buying alto enough
Why only car buyers have to bear the downsides and cost margin arising due to bs6 ph2 when so many old cars, trucks, scooters and even jugaads are polluting our country 😢
What about trucks and commercial vehicles. Are passenger and commercial both considered under a companies fleet example mahindra? For calculating the total emission
commercial and private treated separately
rules are also different for each class of vehicle. Cars come in LMV category, truck bus comes in commerical heavy transport category
small truck like ace and bolero pickup come in light transport
I am amazed seeing how advance these things are going
Our cars : Makes least pollution , we pay extra for such modifications from manufacturers that makes this happen
Government buses : Let me bring you back to reality and fade your future with my black smoke beta
I am happy with my cycle & my fathers car tata nano❤
pollution se mare bhi hum aur usko kam karne ke liye jyaada paisa bhi de hum. Matlab ek din ye norms meri barbaadi ka karan banegi
If you can afford car then you are rich. You can pay more.
@@shrin210 ye mindset ka hi Govt faida uthate aa rha hai angrezo ki time se.
@@bingchilling3377 Means, what do you want to say?
Pata nhi kyun lekin India mein sirf cars to h nhi jo emission karti h aur bhi kai cheezen h jinpe govt. dhyan nhi deti bas car community ke piche padi rehti hai 😢
I am wondering how will the Volkswagen & Skoda group, will meet up C.A.F.E2 norms, as they don't have EV & Hybrid Tech, in their current portfolio??
No way! The Skoda Octavia and Superb were one of my fav cars bro!!😭
Alto is petrol, it's sales are good too. Shouldn't be stopped.
We can't have everything and still worry about environment.. most of these features are already implemented in other countries hence these are already established and tested.. once mass production starts then overall cost should also come down up to some extent
But the main issue is these foreign companies and their antics where they would Increase their ex showroom prices and pull a big con job from Indian consumers by selling cheaper cars in the garb of New Regulations as Expensive ones on Indian shores,
The main thing is these new laws are in Line with EU policies like the carbon footprint of fleet of a every brand which leads to promote EV and ethanol, moreover a Push for Revolution at greater pace,
So these Foreign companies making hue and cry for these Indian Regulations and Norms which are similar to EU Emission norms,
The sad reality is once the cost goes UP then it's hard to come down because the increased revised rate become the new normal overall,
Per capita income dekha hai un countries ka?
Indian automobile companies kai bass hi middle class families hai
Agar unki income nahi bharegi to fir koi fayda nahi rahega
Dheere dheere kar kai automobile companies hi desh chor kai chale jayegi
@@superblaster7297 Agree and we will have to wait and see how govt controls this.. if it goes unchecked then this will surely take the cars further away from reach of a common man
@@superblaster7297 foreign companies are making a hue and cry because of the emission norms on top of taxes which makes the car very costly
Let me take your example of EU,they don't have exorbitant 28 or 43 or 50% taxes on cars,so it's to comply with the emission norms it's feasible,here we have such high taxes and now so many emission norms that it's very difficult to sell any car because cost increase is a lot
Also EU and USA have a type of middle class where everyone buys a car and upper middle and rich buy more expensive ones
Meanwhile India has a smaller market(although it's growing rapidly) where middle class can only buy a motorcycle and only upper middle and rich can think of buying a car
But now it's difficult for them to even purchase a car
With increase in prices, lesser people would buy cars
Also most people don't know jackshit about this,we are car nerds having proper knowledge about taxes,engine and everything about a car
An avg buyer doesn't know he pays so much in car taxes
@@divitkarekar5803 yup the price rise is evident since the Splendour Sells at 91k on road with taxes,
but no matter what we say about these companies malpractices these buffoons would try to sell us junk or unsold inventory at the price of good cars which are sold abroad,
The only thing which can make them to sell foreign or rather better quality cars would be making domestic manufacturers to make their products more feature and tech laden and with better hardware only then these foreign buffoons can sell good tech and hardware laden cars on Indian shores,
Some examples you may ask, the Scorpion has definitely made some noise so much so that it punches above the segment not only in India but also in Australia, SA, and various African countries where the Toyota has their fair share in the market with Fortuner, it made them so much tensed that someone bought Scorpion and imported it to Japan for testing don't know if Mahindra present in Japan but some competitor is purely butt-hurt by Scorpion, some sources spotted that Mahindra Scorpion on Japanese trucks which was somewhat hidden and taken for testing or comparision,
So the point is if our domestic players rock the segment sure the foreign players would feel the heat case in point some butt-hurt Japanese manufacturers,
Funny that the automobile industry suffers the most wrt emissions but environmentalists still demand that it is the automobiles which emit the most
Neomaxist want to control everything
Sadly Govt also has also killed all car and bike enthusiasts. Thank you .
Very informative. Is there any way by which a bs6 car can be converted to bs6 phase 2?
is the City 4th Gen still available to be discontiued???❓❓❓❓
The decision for not owning a car is the best decision one can make. Why you need an elephant when you can rent one.
In order to maintain the price of vehicles i think the govt should reduce the amount of taxes.... because isse sabse jyada hum jaise aam aadmi hi effect hoonge
What i find to be more interesting is the fact that these new norms are being seen as problem and not an opportunity. The technology to achieve better standards is there, just that companies and customers here dont want to to move up the price bracket :(
If you were an adult with real responsibilities and not living on daddys money you would realize thst this govt is doing everything it can to break peoples back. Maybe youll realize when you grow up.
first buyers say "company mileage claim se scam kar rahi public ko" and when changes are being made to amend such things, then they cry
saans aaye chahe na aaye gadi badi se badi chalayenge
@@shresthsonkar9207 lol 😂😂😂
Yes it's a problem because the taxes are not being reduced. The tax on fuel or generally in cars is not being reduced despite it becoming more efficient and as a result being more costly. Keeping cars in luxury in items and taxing 28 percent is pure bull shit by the govt.
@@shresthsonkar9207 saans to shayad industries or public transport ke pollution se bhi rukte hain par bichare alto vale ko sooli pe chdhane ki tyaari hai. Also mileage claim test conditions ko dekhke hoti hai to actual mein difference to aega hi. Current mass market bs6 diesels and petrol cars don't have that much negative effect.
*But it brought a good change TATA's new engines. More refined and silent!*
Poor engines
Poor engine + old steering wheel
@@zafarpickup6506 doesn't makes sense
@@PriyanshuV8 doesn't make sense no one ask you opinion
@@zafarpickup6506 it applies to you too ;)
They are making the norms too strict for petrol and diesel based cars that either manufacturers discontinue them or their prices increase up to a significant number and people will be forced to buy EVs or hybrids.
unlike US EU, indian manufacturers only do RnD when norms are on knocking on their door, just like how kids keep wasting time till last day and study one day before exam.
US EU does RnD 24x7 so they have technology ready and scaled for mass production before new norms come into play.
But question is electricity is then ultimately being made from coal in India. Also electricity price is also not cheap not to mention the degradation of battery and charging times along with poor charging infrastructure.
@@gnanasabaapatirg7376 Exactly and mining of lithium is a highly polluting activity. Given the inherent toxicity of lithium, the need to replace the batteries after 5-10 years and lack of recycling, EVs in India might be actually more polluting than modern ICE cars.
Alto sort of cars should not be stopped. The need of the economy to support a new generation of small businessmen who need cars.
Life means change in things and we have to prepare for it,
But as a indian it is our first priority to ask for the better public transport system,for better connectivity within the country, so can each and every citizen can maintain his/her #ecological_footprint ।
🇮🇳JAI_HIND
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bullshit
OBD has already been mandatory for more than a Decade now.
But on the emission standpoint the real time emission readout from OBD looks like an Update for these systems,
So basically the car manufacturers are not at fault but only the government 👏
Honda city taught Indians how good cars are. Alto taught us how to make a car as cheap as possible.
Roads banane ki jagah gariyo ko he alg bna rhe hai ,traffic Kam karwao emissions apne aap Kam hongi zabardasti gariyo ko kyu maar rhe ho consumers ke saath
This is gon make the auto market even more aggressive. The competition is gonna be the most fierce in the world. I'm proud to be Indian because Indians are the best and only the best companies can survive us 🔥💪. Can't wait for the great cars that will come to us after this great initiative by our future oriented govt. 🤩🪷😎
Sarcasm hai bhaiyo ummeed hai apki gaand na faati ho isse padhke.
Teri gaand to fat gyi hogi..... Norms padke🤣🤣🤣
Time & Time again biturbo never disappoints with disappointments 🤪🤯🤔😱😂
Tata Altroz diesel is not discontinued.
Fuel efficiency already increased.
Suzuki Alto 0 star should have discontinued earlier. Peoples killer.🤣🤣
Wow Chetan, aaj mummy ne bataya ki you have a you tube channel and I was so happy and feeling proud for you...... Keep soaring high❤❤
Everything is getting costly and will burn common men's pocket
Hi bro what will be effect of e20 fuel in older vehicles like rx 100?
😂
Maruti was refusing to change and do better for masses..Now Govt rules will FORCE it to serve MASSES the way it should be...with SAFETY
really love this government a government of country ,where roads are free from pot holes with cheap fuel prices, with cops that don't imply cheap tricks to meet their monthly challan quota , where car have a solid built quality with not all high tax rates, without any stupid rules like the one that they made during covid that two people can't travel on the same two wheeler even though they live in the same house, sure BS6 phase 2 is going to fix all the problems and I just love paying high prices and taxes because you know why should I keep the money I earn because the quality of life in India is OH SOOO WORTH IT!!!!
All Hail LORD ALTO
The Indian govt is to be blamed for this!
anything to save the environment
@@arijit1809 Anything to collect more taxes from the public. The environment is least thing on the minds of corrupt politicians 😕😡
Bhai socha tha alto khareed loonga but abhi to cycle hi theek hai. 💀💀💀
Government Delhi jaise city me jam se nikalne ka koi rasta nahi nikalti hai
Lekin car woner ke liye sare niyam banati hai
Government ko v Aisa kuchh karna chahiye jis se jam me gadi n fase