OVERRATED: The Worst Fitness Advice Ever
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- čas přidán 8. 05. 2024
- In this video, I’m ranking 19 fitness topics as either overrated or underrated. The topics are split up into three categories: training, nutrition, and hot fitness topics. This time, I’ve brought in Dr. Mike Israetel to join me. Subscribe to his channel here: / @renaissanceperiodization
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Categories:
0:00 - Overrated or underrated
0:26 - Cheat reps / ego lifting
1:03 - Muscle soreness
1:58 - Bro splits
2:39 - Training to failure
4:22 - Mind-muscle connection
4:57 - Pumps
5:26 - Dirty bulking
5:49 - Natural testosterone boosters
6:30 - 1 g of protein per lb of bodyweight
7:06 - Body recomposition
7:43 - Diet soda
8:12 - Diet breaks
8:49 - Clean eating
9:50 - Natty or not videos
10:48 - Natty vs enhanced training
11:31 - Cold showers
11:57 - No fap
12:35 - Locking out the knees is dangerous
13:02 - Filming in gyms
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References:
Training Frequency Meta-Analysis
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30558...
Training to Failure
sportrxiv.org/index.php/serve...
Diet Soda
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35285...
Cold Showers
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31513...
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Who should I do an overrated/underrated video with next?
On exercise to build traps that are not shrugs
Alex Leonidas
Sal Di Stefano
I am not sure if you did made already a video about it Jeff, but maybe about the subject bracing and the use of a belt, etc. Pelvic rotation and "ass to grass" squat? Thank you for your content Jeff! We miss Steph!
Russell Orhii. Or any powerlifter. No powerlifting content in a while. POWERLIFTINNNGGGGGG!
These two guys together are definitely underrated
i think they’re properly rated. everyone loves them and that’s how it’s supposed to be
@@cirostrizzi3760have you read the comments of sulek fans?
@@yonaoismeya, just a bunch of kids praising Sam for driving in his car.
@@cirostrizzi3760 as long as they aren't far more popular than athleanx they're underrated
A podcast would be too much
Mike doubling down on his thoughts on training to failure was awesome.
what a wholesome quality moment. liked the editing and the communication and dramaturgy as well. awesome video jeff
More like stupid.
Yes, but it was also the wrong conclusion from the meta-analysis, @jeffnippard. The figure shows the slope of RIR and muscle size, but not low RIR (1-2) vs. no RIR on muscle size... If you look at the data points for 1-2 RIR, they actually seem higher (on average) than the 0 RIR group, suggesting that low RIR might actually be better, or more likely, that low vs. no RIR are not significantly different from each other in their relation to muscle size.
Nevertheless, I love how much you integrate science content, so I've just subscribed.
@@SD....I think one rep from failure prob better but I do failure with lengthened partials on every exercise 😆 it’s just fun isn’t it
@@danhousden2122 training to failure with assisted reps is fair, even still i would say only good towards end of workout. because start-mid workout you probably better off conserving energy for next set, but partials is a no no, you are missing out on so much. mike would actually slap you for doing partials 😂. when training alone going to failure on things like bicep, i doing single arm and use the other arm for the assisted reps, looks a bit weird but is effective
My only problem with gym filming is when people get upset when you walk in front of their camera. You're in a public space, this isn't your personal studio.
Americans have a word definition for public space. You have to pay to go there, it's owned by someone, it they don't want you they can call the police to throw you out, how's that public?
It's much worse over here, multiple tripods are set up intentionally so you can literally not enter the area without being in danger of falling yourself or knocking one down, and when you do enter they act like they own the place.
@malchir4036 if they're in the way of equipment and the people act entitled, it's a problem.
The gym is not a public place though
@@power2go3 how so?
The way Dr. Mike breaks things down is incredible. For example, "If you're not progressing, trying to get sore is probably a good idea" is so simple and concise a way to elucidate his stance. Love him.
I used to get sore by going heavy. I've lightened the weights recently and been going low and slow into my reps and getting more gains (on Daddy Mike's instructions) and not getting as sore. So I feel he is right on both counts.
@@ThiefOfNavarre What do you mean low and slow?
Slow reps, I get it, but what do you mean low? The negative portion of the movement, "stretching it" to the max?
@@gudgurl Yep, that's what I meant
@@ThiefOfNavarre Thanks, had to be sure.
Started doing it for a couple of weeks now,, it's been an interesting experience already.🙂
Dr. Mike is an idiot. He's fake, shallow, a hypocrite, and knows nothing about nutrition.
“Filming” isn’t the issue, it’s basically just all the problems with social media and turning spaces away from their intended purpose towards the all-consuming purpose of “content creation”
Coochie Creation
fine with some educational filming in gym but consistant recording and publishing for Tik Tok or CZcams is weird and should be discoraged at that point just build your own gym
Yeah, obviously the doctor in physiology recording his lesson, is completely different from some clown chimping out because your deadlift shook their phone that was propped up by an empty bottle.
They totally missed the mark on that one XD nobody complains when Scorsese rents a street for hir new 3 hour project, they get mad when Mabelline does it for their shitty ads
I don't care. As long as it doesn't bother me. Some people at the gym do more chitchat than workout. Who cares? Doesn't affect you.
@@caracatoacacepe The rule is to be so jacked, nobody complains if you accidentally shake their phones or walk into their video accidentally.
Love the part 4:19, when Dr. Mike says "no one read the study," and Jeff just smiles and laughs. Instead of editing out this moment or changing his answer, Jeff chose to leave this bit behind. Shows that Jeff is humble to admit he may be wrong in some things and isn't arrogant enough to pretend to know everything. Nothing wrong with not knowing everything in a given topic. Everyone should strive to continue learning.
I caught the same thing! He was totally not offended that Dr. Mike unknowingly attacked him. Such great guys and great info.
I mean yes, but now everytime Jeff shows a study to prove a point he's making, I'm going to wonder if he actually read and understood the study or just googled, got the first study with a title that matched what he wanted and then cherry picked one or two lines without understanding the full context.
@@rianrodrigues8195 totally get that
That was hilarious
Totally@@rianrodrigues8195
Being filmed in the gym is not the same as just existing in public spaces. Someone just seeing me in public won’t have a record of me to then share with as many people as they like. The number of videos being uploaded to TikTok where assholes film other people and accuse them of creeping, or just mock them… it almost makes me never want to go again. So maybe it’s great if you’re already super jacked, but as a beginner and old lady, letting people film me in the gym, even incidentally, feels horrifying.
Actually, the gym is not a public space
And by assholes you mean females
Isn’t half the issue, that the people filming themselves get mad when someone else walks through their shot? Same with the crazy tiktokers that get mad at anyone who „ruins their shot“ by just walking in public. The gym is not a film studio, and people aren’t extras in your TikToks/monetized youtube videos.
Yeah how about he only films in the gym if it’s his own gym 🙄 the gym should be a safe space for everyone to exist, if people want to film in it then rent it out.
Of course it's a take you'd expect from youtubers who make a living from filming in the gym. But I agree. For the average person, I'd say it's fine to record yourself if you can keep others out of your shot, but otherwise it's just rude and not respectful to everyone else.
I am LOVING the fact that both of you are very respectful of each other's answers, based on separate experiences and knowledge base. It's rare to see in a world run by socials where people will agree with popular opinions just to stay relevant and well liked. LOVE THIS.
why wouldn't they be. they arent debating the right of a certain group of people to exist
I genuinely wonder what types of content you usually consume to be so surprised by a civil discussion
@@toxic_narcissistsocial media, no doubt
The problem I have with filming in the gym is the time it takes for people doing it to set up their shots. The in between checking of the shots. The retakes they do if not getting the perfect shot. And finally and worst of all, the attitude they get if you bomb their shot while going about your routine. In a commercial gym, with limited equipment, it's bad etiquette to camp out on that equipment because you think you're the next IG or TikTok fitness phenom.
That’s not a filming in the gym problem, that’s a people being assholes problem. I don’t film on the gym but I’m fine w it as long as you’re respectful of others
@@bart3736 Unfortunately, the two groups have a pretty big overlap
@@bart3736you can turn any problem into people being assholes
@@dankfart nah you guys live in savage towns or something ☠️, I've never seen this issue in the 2 gyms I go to since 2020
Not only that, people filming tend to take up equipment for longer periods of time. Telling us to "just deal with it" is actually pretty inconsiderate.
the problem with filming in gyms is i never consented to be blasted on the internet or be shamed because i looked at someone with a tripod wearing spandex.
Also I look like a run over tomato during my sets, I don't want that image of me throw around
@@Krigalishnikovwell that’s ur issue, ur in a public space they don’t need ur consent
@@danielsihyun-lq4ze why the hell do people pay to get in if it's public? Does the city owns the land and the building? If I want can I take a quick 3 hours nap on the smith machine? What's your definition of public place? Here where I live gyms are private property, only parks are public.
@@Krigalishnikov because it’s a service. it’s still a public gym, not a private gym. if the gym has a no film rule, then you must follow it. if not, the constitution protects the ability to film. if you’re not from america idk why ur in this conversation anyways lol
@@Krigalishnikov I prefer people not film, but it isn't a big deal and if it is that big of a deal to you, you should probably find a gym that doesn't allow it
I recently saw a video on TikTok where the entire comment section was bullying some woman in the background of a shot who was just minding her business working out. It already scary for some people to get to the gym without this extra fear of being ridiculed online. If you want to film that’s fine but it’s important to get consent of people in your shots or film in a private gym.
wouldn't be a problem of all faces are blurred. but they aren't
People have the right so say their opinion. If you walk the streets and some group laughs at you for having a strange walk you can't stop them from doing so too. Just get the right balance between not caring about others too much but at the same time don't completely ignore them because their critic could just be a hint at a mistake you are doing.
@@user-mj8bg3fw8w Or, y'know, we could promote manners? Imagine that eh? Imagine people acting with a bit of decency to everyone no matter where they are? What a wild thing to hope for in society.
@@85481 Please remember how we got here. We are an animal species which threw people in fires and let them burn to death there as an punishment not so long ago. If people hurt you with words just remember you are not participating in a war where you have to run in enemy machine fire or you don't get tortured because you said something wrong
@@85481 yes it is. this is why we protect ourselves. do you lock your door or just live in defiant faith in humanity that robbers should know better, lol
Do more of these videos please!! Super informative and also entertaining
The issue arises when people occupy multiple spaces to film, shame others for watching or posting their content on social media, mock unconventional workouts shared online, or get upset when someone passes through their filming area. In a public gym, everyone has the same rights to space. While I'll try to be considerate around cameras, I prioritize my own workout and expect the same respect in return.
"There's tripods everywhere, so what? walk around, there's also machines everywhere". Yeah, there are machines everywhere because guess what, you are in a fvcking gym and you need them for training. Narcissists have turned gyms into film studios and yet we have to apologize to these freaks for not wanting to appear in their stvpid videos.
yeah for real tripods set up recording it all.
Filming at the gym should 100% be banned. Most people have to take every ounce of courage just to step in a gym where they think theyll be safe and now they have to worry about being in videos where millions might see them?
Gyms are not public. Go outside and film yourself. Not inside where you expect some privacy, even if you'll be seen by other gym goers. What a bad big ego take by roiders
@@Limitless_Doom I'm going to lean my phone precariously against my water bottle to film my PB, and then show it later to my mom and 2 cats, and you can't stop me!
Yea...disagree with these guys...if I gotta squeeze around your stupid tripod to get to the equipment due to the fact tmyou aren't getting enough attention, then you are a Douche
"If there's a tripod in your way, just walk around it!" - I highly disagree and I feel like it's highly disrespectful to people who just want to work out without having to walk around someone else's video equipment. Sometimes gyms are already hard enough to navigate during busier periods and telling us to just deal with it in terms of people filming in the gym really doesn't really show consideration for others. Furthermore, many gyms have implemented a strict "no filming" policy due to numerous issues (and now, liability) for the very reasons they're stating.
If a tripod on the gym floor upsets you that much, I couldn’t imagine how you deal with real problems. You’d be a lot happier if you adapted a new mindset
Fr bro@@brandonkennedyy
@@brandonkennedyy No one is bothered by a tripod on the floor. It's usually the people who place their tripod on a gym floor that get bothered when people walk in front of it.
@@brandonkennedyyZzz
Yeah I've got so say I agree to some degree. But it depends, if they have a tripod close to them and out of the way, in a way that isn't really blocking anything, idc, but if there tripod is in the middle of a fuckin walkway or far away where people can walk through it easily, I'm not going out of my way to avoid it
(13:35) With respect, I disagree on this point. Me leaving my house does not automatically equate to me consenting to become someone else's content on their social media channel. ...I'll also admit that this is a bit of a kneejerk reaction on my end, so I'm curious to hear people (on both sides of the argument) flesh this out more. How is it consent (on my part) if I can't revoke it? For people who want more control over their depiction, are we expected to never leave our homes? Or is agency over my image just a fantasy at this point? (These are genuine questions on my part. I understand that this is part of a larger, much more complex conversation around privacy, data, public life, [interpersonal] safety, freedom of movement, and more.)
You consented to being filmed in public by default/being born in the United States. It's the first amendment.
@@nullno3722which is stupid af and this mindset breeds toxic influence culture and also the gym isn’t a public space
While you may not consent internally legally in a public space you are at the mercy of public laws. Look up any first amendment auditors that do this shit to rile people up. It’s usually a video of some jerk filming people in public spaces that don’t want to be filmed. It ends with cops being called on said first amendment auditor and sometimes physical altercation. But the auditor is in the legal right and usually can either get really good content or a pay day for being in the right of the law. Super shitty situation especially since while it is a right most people morally won’t film someone who doesn’t want to be filmed
@@Travestygyms are not public space though so you can absolutly refuse to be filmed and you are free to walk anywhere.
If the gym has security camera's the contract you signed will say you gave permission to be filmed for security reasons.
I agree with you. The best way to deal with it, is just say off side shit while they are filming and they will edit you out hahaha. If they dont, o well, people will get a good laugh at least.
I think you missed a few major reason why we hate filming in gym.
1. The culture of people making fun of others just trying to workout and mind their own business, or complaining that someone walked through their shot like they own the place.
2. The people filming think they have the right to monopolise equipment for ages. Playing on their phones more than lifting.
3. It's indicative of the "look at me" generation, who are desperate for attention and are just plain irritating.
The thing about filming in Gyms is you can not expect people to not walk in front of your camera. That's the core issue. As joey swole as shown, so many influencers get so mad when someone else exists in the gym. Those influencers are the problem.
be better!
I completely agree with that. Filming in gyms is fine, so long as the gym allows it, its pretty much a public space. Getting mad when other people use that public space for its intended purpose? stupid and disrespectful.
Keep walking in their shot
@@martinclarke2903I mean, that’s pointless and petty too. If it’s in your way that’s fine to walk through the shot as long as your not trying to purposely be a dick, but if they’re just filming themselves and understand how to not be rude about it and don’t get angry at people for walking past(as long as it’s not malicious) then who fucking cares. 😅
there are defintely ways to not walk in front of a camera just like everywhere else in the world when people are taking pics alot of people will try and walk around to not interrupt its just polite. Now if you cant or dont see the camera thats ok. It does take two to tango both sides need to understand human decency
The contribution of you both to the fitness industry is absolutely priceless. Thank you for all your work Mike and Jeff! A loyal supporter from years and years back ♥️ -Gabo
Why are you not pinned yet😂
love your stuff, champ. You helped me get the dragon flag
Imagine thanking roided up losers
Legend
Man, Jeff & Mike. You guys are so good at what you do! I aspire to absorb some of the many positive traits you guys yield! Bless
Wow. Both are very intelligent and well spoken. This is valuable information. I'm thankful I found this channel
I am in my 50's and just started weight training. I needed advice like this to "weed" out all of the information that I get. Thanks guys!
Cool bro, I started at 42. Been pumping for three years now. I went from weak to very strong and feel good. Train consistently, that is 80% of the results, the rest 20% is everything else, technique, nutrition and so on. Focus on compound movements, biceps and chest is overrated if you ask me.
@@sunshine8556 I agree with sunshine except only do chest (jk jk!!). However, I do like a good UPPER chest and big delt look! people notice those!
@sunshine8996 i’d more say that its 30% training 30%nutrition 30% sleep
These two hombres are the best fitness educators on YT.
Anyone looking to weed out garbage information I refer to MIKE ISRAETEL. Nobody else.
Loved this! What a fast-paced content with lots of value!
I had to check the playback speed. I thought I had it up to 1.5x.
ohhhhh man do i ever get sooo much value out of your content, you deserve allll your success your information is top quality and the general value i get from how your videos are crafted is great
10:38 Can't wait for Coach Greg to reply at this clear shot at him 😂
was looking for this comment uuhhh that was clearly a shot at Coach Greg xd
Love the part he just said about psychologically draining yourself. Of course I am psychologically drained after a good workout, but I feel like sometimes on sets if I just breath out, or calm down and focus on contacting the target muscle, instead of just trying to freak out as hard as I can to put myself into an even higher level of hyperarousal, helps create better gains too.
Dude! First time watcher and I'm also very big into fitness (been running, lifting, and climbing for 15+ years). Really enjoyed this information, thanks brothers!
Love the content! As a relatively new lifter, one of the first things I gravitated to was correct form makes up for heavier weight and more reps. Been focused on it since the start.
I actually see the value in natty or not videos. When I was a teenager, I used to lift with a guy in his 30s. We would do the same workouts together but he would see great results, and I would typically get injured, or so sore that I couldn't recover in just a week. I've been an athlete since I was little, and I was a 6'2 180 pound teen. I really though I had bad genetics until he revealed that he was on juice the whole time. I had body image issues for years after that, it's good for people to know what is and isn't possible without drugs. A lot of people, especially young people, think you can outwork someone on steroids and even the playing field, when in reality you literally can't "outwork" someone on steroids, the whole point of the drug is it makes you recover quicker
Isn't that more an attitude problem than if some random person is natty or not? You could have easily ran into somebody with great genes that would achieve much better results than you using the same routine. The guy from your story not being natty is just random chance.
I started going to the gym for the first time in my life a year ago (at the age of 38), and pretty much everybody at that gym is doing better than me. But, I'm better than myself a month ago. And way much better than myself a year ago. Always there at the same time, 6 days a week. And that's enough for me. Also, I'm a bit old to have body image issues lol.
You do you man, forget about other people. Most of them are not worth the attention anyways lol
@@zoranvujovic998 No lol you're not even close to being right. Good genetics and gear are two different things. A grown man telling a teenager that he's natural and having him do his exact workouts, that's entirely different than having a friend that happens to look better than you. It's hilarious that I said "don't abuse steroids and lie to kids about it" and someone of course had to pop in and be like "You're wrong :(". The internet is a wild place
Is that your takeaway? You must be trolling.@@zoranvujovic998
@@mrdavisdancebut you didn’t say that the steroid user told you he was natty in the original comment, of course he’d get confused
@@peterk.2108 "I really thought I had bad genetics until he revealed that he was on juice the whole time" was in my original comment. By stating that, I thought I was implying that I thought I had bad genetics while I was training with him, until the dude revealed that he was juicing at a later time.
Please let this series NEVER end.
I am been training for like 5 years and still can learn so much from well educated, nice personalities like you, Mike or Layne.
I study biochemistry and forget sometimes to see the grounded important basics when thinking about muscle growth.
This. No one knows everything about fitness as it's an ever-evolving field of study. If any personal trainer or fitness guru says they sell the solution to every problem that any person would have, they're lying and have not bothered to work with a variety of clients.
I just ate 38 eggs 😂. Just wanted to see what it’s like to eat like a pro bodybuilder for a day. Way over even 1g of protein per lb lean tissue. Let’s see what the blood work says on Monday
@@TheToplessChef-hf5ebbro ate the whole carton per day 🤯
@@AshraafM yeah I ate one cartoon raw literally inside the gym 😂
Layne, as in Layne Norton? That filt?
These 2 guys are just so great and knowledgeable! Following both their channels.
love how you guys help each other out to grow and prosper together
I don’t even lift and this was interesting. 💪
Cali?
Cali?
Cali?
Bro just casually has a million subscribers
@@ddos4345 wtf I meant calisthenics
I do a “bro split” that involves hitting every muscle every 4 days. So almost 2 times a week. I’ve tried everything else. I just really enjoy focusing on one or two muscle groups at a time. If I hate the workout, I won’t workout. So what I do works for me and I enjoy it
Yeah, I do full body and I enjoy that as I dont like dedicated leg days lol. What gets you out and into fitness even without maximial optimisation is a good thing.
Ya I agree. This is the problem with fitness influencers they tell you what works quickest not what works for you
i see what youre saying but theyre saying its still technically u losing gains that you coudlve gotten otherwise
@@raqimkthat’s not true though. I have bad workouts when I do what he says is best, and I have bad results, I don’t get stronger. I have great results when I do my method. I get stronger. And I continuously am able to lift heavier.
That’s my point. It’s not a 1 size fits all. My method works for me. His works for him. I’m not telling anyone they need to do what I do. I’m not telling anyone his split is bad. What I’m saying is do what works for you
Oof, I feel for you
Jeff, another great video! 🎉
You bring both quality and entertainment to CZcams, i.e. your videos are fun to watch and factually accurate. P.S. I like how you went out of your way to contact your co-host about training to failure follow-up.
“You have to know what failure feels like.” Love that sentence specifically
There's a big difference between filming yourself in the gym and you accidentally got someone else in the shot (though you could blur them pretty easily) and filming others in the gym.
this was incredibly insightful. trainning to failure being overrated shook me
Thank you guys. This is super helpful! This format gets right to the meaty questions without beating around the bush. From two guys who are jacked in their own right, it feels great to hear this advice.
I loved this you are both so knowledgable and eloquent ☺️ thank you for the insights
I bloody love these videos. It’s so great seeing these collabs and it is such a great way of enhancing the knowledge and confidence of the audience when it comes to lifting, nutrition, generally positive healthy lifestyle habits
Best advice: don't try to be perfect.
This allowed me to train almost consistently since i was 14 or something and now I'm 30.
It's ok to train 3 times a week or to not have the best most effective routine sometimes. It's important to be consistent over being perfect.
I had my younger days when i hated even having 1 rest day. But those days r over
Also things can be changed. In some cases the change is always a welcome thing when it comes to exercise routines. The consistency aspect is also very important with the sleep/nutrition for getting better results.
3 times a week is more than anyone other than pro bodybuilders need, lmao. For the first few years 2 per week is enough for most people if you add other types of training like cardio.
@greenlitlleman my best shape was when i was obsessed with BB. But it's not sustainable because it took over my life.
I agree or what I'm doing rn. 5 times a week but very short sessions. Cause i train at home
@@FX_ASHKNI'll lose my mind if i don't train 6x a week. I don't know why, it's just like default thing to do on my schedule. Sure we should prioritize resting above all else so we don't get injured since we're not athletes but still. I do know from experience how fragile a body is when under extreme fatigue like you'll get injured from the stupidest things like one ego lift and poof wrist problems, one experimental partial bench press poof tennis elbow, one stupid technique day doing overhead press boom lower back strain, one stupid PR attempt on squats boom glute strain like bruh it doesn't end. What I do now is I try to take it easy, I'm thinking of removing my delts day and just split the heads with chest, back, leg day and I think my soul is OK with that compromise.
Absolutely right. Consistency is the most important training factor of all. Sad that it takes so long to learn this ^^
On training to failure.
I think the value lies in learning where that point is for you.
Once you can feel that, you can get the last full rep possible.
I don't get stuck under a bench press anymore, but still manage to get plenty of just-squeezed-out final reps.
Great video guys! Two of my favorite people in this space doing a collab is awesome
I have really enjoyed every collaboration between you two so far. Also, Dr. Mike really digging in (and your reaction) when you called him to update his view on taking sets to failure was hilarious.
I'm not sure what's more impressive: Dr. Mike's understanding of the literature or his command of his language to be clear an succinct with every answer.
He's an AI that's why 😅
@@kaloloL8nah, he's just really sharp.
It's called knowing your shit
@@100KGNatty It's called not letting a joke fly over your head.
@@allnamestakenlol It's a bad joke and nobody's gonna laugh at it anymore
@@antiwufei553 You wrote 'Jason Fung or his ilk' twice in one sentence... Opinion disregarded.
This was great.loved that you answered so quickly
I get that cold exposure may not be as beneficial as people think body wise, but it helps me immensly to tolerate the inconveniences of the day to day world. I see it as that, if I pull myself through such unpleasant experience at the start of a day, what else equally unpleasant await on a casual day, nothing. And additionally it helps to create the living in the moment feeling, not focusing on past and future, also my skin improved. And in winter going into frozen lake with a friend is pretty fun way of spending time.
It's annoying how they are narrowing the focus on hypertrophy only, cold water therapy has many benefits outside of the gym.
Hey, Jeff! I love your videos. You have great talents for synthetization, discernment, and communication. I would love to see a video dedicated wholly to ways to break through plateaus and I think many others would, too.
I agree with everything except the filming part. I understand that Mike and Jeff are the top 1% of smart useful gym advice influencers, but most people on the cameras at least in my gym have adopted the main character sydrome tiktok crud plaguing society. Also gym equipment is in the way because it is equipment you use to WORK OUT with. Tripods and stuff are not workout equipment.
Yea great vid but the commentary on tripods etc. was laughable
Yes, plus that wierd take on if ur in public u should be fine with getting filmed. I def do not want to be filmed just by going outside my house lmao
especially in the gym im going to but idk
Gyms aren’t public spaces so what Mike was saying is incorrect. Also, not everyone is okay with filming. Germany has seen the problem with technology being so ingrained into society and has actually made it illegal to film without consent. Jeff was pretty on point, it can be done, but it needs to be done respectfully.
you can argue about this until your face turns blue, but ultimately it's your personal decision whether you get your panties in a wad about it or just move on with your day. what choice will give you peace?
Love both you guys! Thanks for the quality content
Really great video that covers many topics. I disagree on some but, the most important thing is do what makes you happy and feel good 👍🏽
Always admire the editing in your videos and the fact that you do them yourself Jeff. Love the collabs with Mike!
This is one an awesome vid. I love the chemistry between these 2 and I'd actually like to see them make more vids together.
Great Video! Great to see both of you give your views at at the same time.
Great content!! Thanks for sharing a lot of people value both your opinions.
The collaboration lately with Mike is amazing and a great value to your videos (that are always great!)
I LOVE, how respectful they are to each other even when they don't fully agree with each other! kudos to you guys much love for creating this amazing content
This was fantastic content. Really enjoyed hearing these two discuss their answers! I thought my bro split wasn't working... and it wasn't haha
"as long as you don't disrespect other people who maybe don't want to be on camera". ever thought about that maybe nobody in the gym WANTS to be on camera?!
You guys together are like the best thing happening to the fitness industry
8:03 I absolutely agree. If anyone overweight says they want to lose some weight, the first thing I always recommend is cutting regular soda out of their diet. I don't even go into other specifics with nutrition, or suggest exercise routines or anything like that. It's quite remarkable just how much weight an overweight person can lose by just cutting soda, which is also a testament to how bad that stuff is anyway.
A lot of people underestimate calories from liquids (sodas, juices, etc). We tend to think of solid foods when it comes to things like calories, sugar, etc and it can seem like a drink isn't as substantial in those terms.
@@MiamiVice.Drinks have less calories but they are more "dangerous" because of how easy and quickly you can ingest them. Also, some drinks are very high in calories (milkshakes).
@@JohnDoe-id5ih Carbonated drinks perhaps, because they go flat, but fruit juices are easy to consume slowly.
@@MiamiVice.shoot even those little sauce packets from chic fil a it’s like 150 calories in each one
Everytime I cut pop, sweets, and beer from my diet I shed at least 10lbs within a month, and im not overweight to begin with.
Very helpful going back on that training to failure I point. I definitely qualify as someone who would benefit most from it.
Great interview &information 👏
One problem I have with a lot of people filming at my gym is... They will take the time to set up and tear down their camera, but leave their weights on the bar for the next person to take off.
The only one I disagree with is filming in gyms. I totally agree with your viewpoints... just that your viewpoints are coming at the "I don't want to be on camera" argument. I would also film myself to check form and find weak points. However, the other side of the coin are the people filming others to make fun of them which is not okay and is something that happens very often. Or the people who yell at people for walking in front of the camera and expect everyone to stay out of their shot while in a public space.
Fantastic content. Thank you both!
Love Sammy Sulek, been a big inspiration for me, as well as you guys (Jeff and Dr. Isratel). Love all 3 of you guys
Thanks to both you guys and your content. Listening to your advice and trying to implement it in my life really helps with like proper goal setting but also not wasting my time and energy burning myself out unnecessarily. It's really hard staying regular due to chronic and acute health, nursing burnout, and raising three kids, but I'm hoping to do my best in 2024 to build more muscle, hopefully get more lean, and prepare for at least one Muay Thai fight.
There are so many fake natty on social media, so in my opinion, it is pretty healthy that there is information spread about this topic. Also it make it easier/more acceptable to be honest for gear users.
The transition to discuss the training to failure update was elite!
Natty or not vids are very crucial. It is not about us looking at them for comparaison but they do shed the light that these bodies are not attainable naturally therefore we don’t get frustrated or disappointed. It is very good eye opener for anyone working out.
Training to failure was a good tool for me because I wasn’t training with the proper intensity. I still train to failure every couple of weeks to see if sth needs adjusting. If you struggle to find the proper intensity it’s definitely sth to try
Agreed. As a newbie, it really helped me set my intensity level. How do you know you're 1-2 reps short of failure if you don't know when you'd fail?
also great if you're not training 5-7 times a week, which hell, most people don't have time to train any days during the week, why're we shaming training 3-4 times a week?
Ok, as a newbie in the world of weightlifting, this was educational, entertaining, very interesting and fun to watch! I hope you (two) can do these types of Q&A's in the future as well! And what was even more awesome was that despite you two had different cards, you both explained WHY very understanding and logically. Great content! :)
The editing is insane on this video, Bravo sir!
Im soooo happy to have Dr. Mike on youtube and sharing his knowledge with us
It's refreshing to hear from an actual professional instead of fucking grifters and quacks
wish this video was longer. can never have enough of two people discussing a subject who actually know well what they're talking about
This was a really great cohesive video for multiple popular topics that myself and others often complicate or overthink, when in reality they are quite simple. Go gym, lift with progressive overload and focus on good form to prevent injury. That's that for 99% of people IMO.
One of the best videos I’ve seen in a while. Very informed opinions, and well edited 💪
The diet fatigue is too real!! I took my first diet break with the intention of building muscle for once in my life and holy crap did my body respond. I’ve never looked or felt better.
Amen to this. If I'm on a prolonged cut or bulk, a 1-3 week diet break really helps my mood.
I went from 187lb to 163lb in 5 months and I just had to stop like 10lb short of my goal.
@@acruzp I did 190 to 160 (so pretty much the same) over 7 months. I just recently finished a 2 month "diet break" at maintenance, and i felt absolutely amazing after a couple weeks.
@@JackOfHearts42 that's great man, keep it up!
I think training to failure is overrated, however, many people don’t even come close to failure and leave way too much in the tank to get results. So definitely good to do occasionally to make sure you’re challenging yourself enough
Yeah I think there's validity in the idea that you won't know how much you're below failure unless you take it to failure. Doesn't necessarily mean you need to take it to failure every time, or that the targeted muscles must fail every set.
@@triplemania5550 💯
I think it’s just dangerous more noobs like myself who don’t have the clearest idea about what they’re doing yet. I’ve tried jumping back into the gym multiple times and have gone too hard and always hurt something.
Shouldn't you train to succes?
@@MrGoodCat8I'd lower your weight especially if you're doing sets of 5 for example. If you've gotta cheat your form to push to failure you're far more likely to actually fail and injure yourself
The cold showers one is really interesting. Maybe it isn’t so good for fitness, but I thought it could help with your mood. And also for people who take very hot showers, they will need to moisturize it a lot more because their skin could dry out easier.
Cold showers wakes me up and makes me feel incredible afterwards. And as you said, it doesn't dry out the skin as much. Not everything that's good for you has to build muscles.
it's very good for fitness and recovery, just not hypertrophy - so if your only goal is hypertrophy, better skip them right after working out. and wait for like 4 or 5 hrs to avoid the hypertrophy inhibiting effects.
Agreed, they got this one wrong. There is literature & evidence to back up the physiological benefits, and cold showers/plunges only reduce hypertrophy if done AFTER weight training.
@@aalexgr8placebo
Does anyone know if they reduce strength as well? (They make me happy so I'll be doing it anyway)
Dr. Mike changed so much about the way i look at fitness im so glad i discovered his content
Gyms aren’t public. They are membership based. That said, I enjoy working out any gyms where capturing uncompensated background actors is grounds for termination.
Thank you, Jeff. Editing skills are fantastic. Thanks to Dr Israetel as well. So much dispelled nonsense.
Best collab for reactions, I need more of this.
I also like the fact that both of them are comfortable with disagreeing but at the end of the day there should be only one objective truth so that's why you'll see them agreeing most of the time.
Jeff Cavaliere (AthleanX) is fan of training to failure mainly because most people don't know true failure and quit too early so it's just a safe bet for gains to go to failure.
That transition trick with the laptop screen at @3:09 was incredibly smooth. Jeff's editor is flexing his muscles.
Love this type of video. You guys are obviously biased about filming in the gym. Most people don’t like it, don’t want to be in someone’s video and tripods in the walkways are rude. Most of us want to throw on our earbuds and block out the world which is hard to do if you know someone is recording with you clearly in their shot. And especially these days if you’re caught making a one second glance at a female you may end up with unwanted internet fame. I make an exception for someone wanting to do a form check.
Yeah but also every (normal) person films mainly to check their technique
Everyone on the internet pretends as if they live in Los Angeles, encountering influencers in every gym they visit. Yet, the only time I've witnessed someone filming was to record proper exercise form. People tend to pretend it's a pervasive issue when, in reality, it isn't. It's akin to individuals watching crime videos daily and panicking, despite crime being historically at its lowest. "if you’re caught making a one second glance at a female" like this is not happening to anyone and you know it.
@@jbawg my friends and I record some of each other's lifts on our phones to improve form which, to admittedly toot my own horn, is the best way to film in the gym.
A whole damn tripod isn't a big deal but I'd be mildly annoyed tbh.
@@jbawg 100%. People are blowing this issue way out of proportion. I film in the gym to check my form. I place my phone vertical, leaning next to the water-bottle and I film. I only capture myself. Yet many people would prefer if I was forbidden to do so because they feel so insecure about themselves to the point where they want to impose their insecurities unto others.
If you feel like such a blob that appearing in someone's video background is debilitating, then you need to work on your personal issues, not dictate that filming in gyms should be banned.
@@david15891for me, your normal are the ones who want to show off, brag... there is no reason to film yourself, unless plan to share. There are tons of mirrors in every gym I go. Can check and adjust right there .
Tons of respect for the transparency comparing both follow up responses to the meta analysis on training to failure.
Nice More Plates referrence, you guys are awesome!, I love the vibe between you 😂
I watch too much of Mike's content to learn anything new here but this is really useful to send to friends who aren't as clued in, 15 minutes is short and sweet with loads of info.
I absolutely love getting content from both these guys together, this is my favourite possible fitness content creator crossover, easy.
I was genuinely surprised to hear about the cold showers inhibiting hypertrophy, though I started taking them recently just to wake up a bit faster, read about the idea a bit in Dopamine Nation, and obviously encountered all the Huberman protocol stuff wrt to them - I hadn't heard of any pushback prior to this.
I've been doing cold showers for years now and they've helped me be more calm and mindful while also making me less reactive. And considering the science behind them, they've also improved my cardiovascular health.
As for how they inhibit hypertrophy, I believe this is indeed true. During cold exposure, blood is temporarily moved to protect your brain and other vital organs. So if you just came back from the gym and took a cold shower, your muscles will have less blood circulation to facilitate hypertrophy.
Just take your cold showers before workouts and you'll be fine.
only matters if you take the cold shower after exercise
Mike was my intro to exercise science science teacher at UCM in Missouri. Great man
Incredible video thanks ! ❤❤❤
I really like these “overrated/underrated” videos. I’m 44 and been working out since high school. Played college football, so I’ve been exposed to many different exercises and movements. But, I find these videos extremely useful.
Can you do something like this on typical gym form techniques? Like not touching your chest on bench, range of motion on preacher curls or using a long bar for lateral raises.
As a content creator, I feel that your opinion on filming in the gym is incredibly biased. As someone who doesn't make a living off of content creation, I find it extremely bothersome when I see people with tripods set up recording (especially with mirrors around). Regular gym goers shouldn't have to feel uncomfortable working out because they might end up on someone else's Instagram. While you mention that it's fine as long as "you're not bothering anyone", many people are already uncomfortable that you are recording and may not want to cause a bigger scene by asking you to stop or by engaging gym staff. Just because you aren't approached to stop or to record somewhere else, doesn't mean you aren't bothering people.
Yes
Yup
Lol
It’s just corny honestly
Sounds like you're just insecure and you don't want people to see you lol.
Great video. I think the "natty or not" debate really helped me personally, besides the drama and the dumb stuff around it.
As someone who is definitely not planning to go out of the natty path ever, it gave me a more realistic outlook of what I can hope to achieve this way (genetic differences considered).
I used to look up to a lot of juiced physiques and compared myself to them, hoping I could achieve that someday and even pressured myself to the point of dysmorphia.
And I think this is the case with a lot of other dudes, especially young ones. With Instagram culture and all that stuff.
Knowing what's the ceiling of what I can achieve naturally gave me a lot of piece of mind and a more realistic approach.
Been a big fan of Jeff for a long time. Never heard of Dr Mike, but was blown away by his intelligent and well thought out answers. Think I found a new person to add to the watch list.
Jeff, been watching your stuff for a long time now and I absolutely love how you've progressed with the production quality. That cut at 3:10 was beautiful to watch. Keep up the great work dude (Y)
That cut was so smoothe I was legit taken aback.