Ford Mondeo/Fusion. Proof you don't always NEED an SUV! | ReDriven used car review
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Mondeo. A nameplate that, in some eyes, is as sexy as a crocheted turtleneck. And just one in a line of many that have fallen victim to our infatuation with all things SUV.
Though a quick drive of one will remind you why a sedan was the go-to family car for so long. What’s the Mondeo like as a used proposition?
Check out the full review to find out!
00:00 - Intro
01:34 - What is it?
03:17 - How's the exterior?
05:29 - How's the interior?
07:31 - How's the tech?
08:30 - Is it practical?
09:46 - What goes wrong?
13:56 - Is it safe?
14:42 - What's it like to drive?
16:43 - How much is it?
17:27 - Fuel use, warranty & servicing
18:03 - Should you buy it?
#ford
#mondeo
#fusion
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NOTE: 16:20 is an intentional window into AK’s thought process and not a rookie F-Up from the editor.
- Sam (the editor)
AK's performance was "underrated".
Ok, but I reckon you did F-Up the American pricing though
Yeah right….
I thought it was comment bait at Sam's cost :)
Think anyone who isn't a pleb could see what you were doing don't worry.
Could not agree more AK! Massively underrated!! Have a 2017 Titanium wagon with 160k, the Diesel engine and Dual clutch transmission is awesome. Think of upgrading before 200k, but struggling to find something that compares… keep charging guys, love the channel 👍
the holden commodore VXR is a close match
@@darbyharrison3876similar size, but the diesel Mondeo can deliver incredible fuel economy. Like 5l/100 k open road. And a range of over 1200km.
The dual clutch can be reliable, it needs to be maintained properly. Unfortunately many service centres take the money but don't do the job. But I've seen a diesel/ DCT for sale with 655,000 km. In really good condition too.
Same here. S-Max, which has also been discontinued, diesel, with 225.000 km on clock, nothing to replace it with. Love the car, never had one from new with such mileage, never had any problems.
10:20 The windows going down by themselves are more likely the owners sit on the key. If you hold the unlock button down all the windows will drop, hold the lock and they all go up. It's a little known feature.
Hi from the UK. I have a Mondeo Vignale which is so good to drive and very quiet on the move. It's a level above the titanium here in the UK with the best quality leather you could want. My car done 144000 mile and still drives sweet
Greetings from 🇬🇧
We had a 2011 titanium X sport estate 2.2 diesel auto in panther black sitting on factory 19" alloys.
Awesome car, 200bhp heated and cooled seats, bigger than a hearse in the boot.
Did everything we needed it to do. 👍
Love my 2014 Ford Fusion! Just replaced the steering gearbox, which was roughly $2,700 but after nearly 9 years of ownership it has been such a great reliable sedan! I'm not ever getting rid of it and am going to keep it for the rest of my life!
Completely agree with regards to how underated they are. Ive got a 2012 Titanium at the moment and soon will be buying this model but Titanium. Great video as always.
Had a 2015 MD Titanium and was one of the best cars I've owned.
Bought it new and throughout the 5 years we had it the only issue we got was the sunshade for the panaromic roof got stuck and jammed itself one day requiring it to be replaced under warranty.
In terms of mechanical issues, a major one that was missed and commonly documented with the 2.0 GDI Motor is carbon build up causing misfiring, rough running engine on cold starts etc on higher kilometre models.
At the time (2015) I believe it was a better choice over some of the other mid sized models so don't necessarily agree it sits lower on the pecking order for cars. Compared to the Mazda 6 at that time, they weren't available with the turbo engine yet so the Mondeo engine felt much stronger. The hatchback design is also much more practical than the sedan and the Mazda 6 wagon is based on a shorter wheelbase making it smaller. Toyota Camry was a white good on wheels so that was crossed off the list and wasn't considered.
I would also definitely recommend the Titanium for anyone looking to buy a Mondeo as they featured other worthwhile gadgets such as 3 mode adaptive suspension, along with a heated front windscreen made of a tiny mesh of elements embedded in the glass. On a cold day rather than wait for ages for your demister to work, hitting the Window heating button would clear it in under a minute and would allow you to be on your way.
As far as I know, the Mondeo was also the only car in the mid size price bracket that had a powered tilt and telescoping steering wheel so it allowed for a comfort access mode where the seat and steering wheel would move out the way every rime you turn off the car ala more luxury cars such as Lexus etc.
Interesting features. Add to that the inflatable rear seatbelts!
Definitely agree it isn’t lower on the pecking order on comparable models for many good reasons.
Will always thumbs up ReDriven. AK you're such a gun presenter.
After recently shopping for a new car, I lamented the lack of sedans and wagons in my price bracket. Ended up with a base Forester, but I wish I was in a wagon.
love your work lads!
Not gonna lie, it's pretty amazing seeing the global level that the Mondeo/Fusion/Contour is on. I really enjoy seeing everyone's views on these cars. I have been around every gen of these cars (USDM spec), and I love the 25-30 year old car nameplate with the Contour (1995-2000 and to 2003 with the Mercury Cougar). One of Ford's more groundbreaking cars from an engineering standpoint alongside the Ford Taurus (SHO specifically), and I love all of the generations of this car. I love how simple the Mondeos/Contours were in the 90s. Basic creature comforts, but the Duratec V6, transmission, and suspension setup made it one hell of a standard car to drive hard. The handling is extremely nimble and light, and combine that with the exterior cues of 98-00, it was adorably aggressive and lively. The SVT/ST variants were an amazing homage to the American built/Japanese designed Yamaha SHO V6 Taurus (in my mind at least). I wish we had access to the Estate/Wagon versions of these cars, and even on the SVT and non-SVT Contours. My mother has a 2018 Fusion Titanium Hybrid, and I really wish it came as an Estate as well as offering an actual 6-8 speed auto transmission (with the "manual" paddle shift mode) instead of the CVT transmission. Love that 2018 car so much and the rims do help the look of the car because my SVT looks wierd with anything smaller than 17 inch rims, and same exact thing goes with my 2012 Fusion (generation before the Aston body). The 2013-2021 models look so bad with anything smaller than 19 inch rims. I love the 5 spoke 19/20 inch rims that were shown on that Blue Titanium Estate, and I am sad to see these go as well. For being a mid-size car compared to the full-size Taurus, it is extremely roomy and practical (as long as you don't get an Saloon/Sedan Hybrid) across the entire lifetime that the Mondeo has been around for.
The only reason why I don't like the Hybrid as a Saloon, is because of the batteries being located in the trunk/boot. If we were able to have the Hybird as only as Estate, brilliant!!!
Great work as always!!
Hi from Denmark. The MK5 Mondeo is my first Ford. It has the 2.0 Peugeot diesel unit paired to a 6 speed manual (had read about the powershift, so it was a must!) and it is a germ of a motor! Mine got upgraded from 150 hp to 180 hp and it is a total different car. More relaxed to drive, more power.
The handling is underrated and it just drive so good. I have had it for two years now and it has just past the 100.000 km mark and nothing had gone wrong. Only oil change every 20.000 km and that's it.
My mondeo titanium 2018 wagon diesel done 120k kms, the only problem I had was egr needs cleaning, excellent drive, full tank gets me 1100 kms, panoramic sunroof is brilliant in winter, power gate is brilliant, wired android auto is very good, builtin navigation works well, memory seat/steering is great, seat goes back and steering goes up after turning car off is absolutely brilliant, never had any electronic problems,
I really enjoy your reviews, well done
Holy shit what an awesome channel! Answered all my questions about the Mondeo. SUBSCRIBED!
These are great cars! I drove an older XR5 recently and it was a great car. Great review!
I used to have one and unfortunately it was a rebirth so it went south pretty quickly (absolutely a rookie mistake learnt my lesson!!) however - we loved it (until the injectors went) great on fuel, so comfortable, quick and fun to drive. I just went past one and thought it was brand new but soon realised it’s got to be at least 5 years old. Absolute gem and despite our eventually bad experience I think a well vetted quality version would actually suit me down to the ground. Lovely car.
I have 2016 SE 2.5 and its got 126k miles on it and it runs perfect rides perfect and with the deep impact blue and blacked out trim and dark tint every day someone says nice car man!!!! i love my fusion
I fell in love with this car by renting a Ford Fusion in the USA and driving it from San Francisco to NYC and return across America for a month. It is one of the finest cars I have ever driven. Handling, power, smooth, quiet, and all the bells and whistles. I live in New Zealand and two years ago the dealer in Christchurch was selling 2020 Mondeos 2.0 Eco-boosts for $29,990.00 NZD as a run-out model! I offered $29K cash and got a bargain. I have had it now for two years, and only had a loose battery connection that caused it to give me a dead battery, otherwise no issues at all. Mine is a Ambient Model (base model) and has all the bells and whistles I need. Bye the way something not mentioned the 2.0 Eco-boost made in Mexico up to 2018 Mk5 models (American Fusions) does have one flaw to watch for, leaking coolant into the number two or three cylinders. This can cause total engine failure so if under warranty Ford owes you a new motor. Plenty of videos on CZcams about this item. As I understand the engines made in Valencia Spain for Ford Mondeos, as well as some American Fusions are ok. You can check the origin on a information sticker on the engine at the side of the head.
I was Waiting for this video for a long ❤️
Notification squad 🔥🔥🔥 finally got a break at Uni to watch a new ReDriven video 😃
I have '16 Titanium 2.0 petrol, with 80,000 on the clock. I've owned it for 6 years. I agree with everything said in this video. I have looked at possibly replacing it, but I can't find anything that does it better.
Had mine for 7 years from new, only 95000km, but not a single issue in that time. Still original brakes. I love driving this car and will probably end up being an 'end user' 'cause I can't see me ever getting rid of it.
didn't know anything about them so thanks for the info.
Most beautiful car. If I got money, would buy it. Love it.
Another great video. CZcams has been severely lacking a channel like this and you quite often make me look at cars from a different angle that I hadn't considered. A car that is in the same vein and one I would love to see you review is the Skoda Octavia VRS. I had one of those in station wagon manual form which I think you would have a blast driving. If you are ever in Melbourne let me know and you can review any of my cars., although you have already reviewed 3 of them. Keep up the great job all of you.
Thanks so so much Ben, we're wrapped you enjoyed it
Also, we'll be doing a Melbourne trip hopefully in the next few months so we'll be in touch. Can you throw us a message via Insta, that way it will be easier to say G'Day. - AK
Great review
Have both a 2017 Mondeo Trend and a 2017 Mondeo Titanium
Love them both, just brilliant cars
Excellent work, can only imagine the amount of research and effort required to make a video like this :) Im a fan of the Mondeo, though yet to drive this generation. Also interesting to hear you guys is Aus are moving over to SUVs too, not just a British 'problem' (I say problem, I just mean for those of us who like a low centre of gravity and better aerodynamics...)
Definitely not just a Brit problem. In Australia we stopped building cars altogether. In the US, Ford ony makes Trucks SUVs and Mustangs.
Pretty soon the only sedan you'll be able to buy will be a Camry.
That centre console extending down to the gear lever looks like it is right out of the XC60 you reviewed - minus the wood.
We had no choice but 7 seat suvs when the kids were growing up. As soon as we didn't need one we went back to Focus's. Have had 3 now and I totally agree if you enjoy driving, NONE of the SUV's come close to the drive or dynamics of a sedan/hatch. I actually look forward to getting in the missus's Focus for an engaging drive somewhere these days. Its such a shame that there are not enough "drivers" out there anymore to keep the standard cars alive. RIP Falcadores
Had a 2008 TDCI Mondeo and it was amazing. Never missed a beat in the 100k we had it. Sold it with 150k and it was still going strong. Only downside we had was the Sony CD player (rubbish). Fuel economy of the diesel was amazing. I honestly miss its boot the most, it used to swallow a child's motorbike ffs. It is soooo much more practical then the Escape we have, they just stopped making them when we went to replace it. Hence the Escape we own now.
Thanks AK and Jim. Great review and nice subtle f bomb during the drive section.
Have always liked these things.
Keen to see what you think about the ssschkoda superb, mish Moneypenny!
Haha! That was obviously meant to be cut. But glad you enjoyed it
Dropped the f bomb 16.20 mark bloody funny
Agree. I have a (MC) 2011 wagon with 85,000 ks. A superb car. Would definitely buy the MD version when its time for a change.
I's already at my 3th Mondeo... and it has always been the financial best choice I could make.
They are relyable (except some electronics issues with the last one), they have a great driving experiance (they stick to the road) and they are very practical... but like they say in the video... the Mondeo isn't exactly an eye-catcher...
I got me a 2019 awd 2.0 (gas) fusion SE, great all around car, good combination of comfort, technology, power at a good value.
Until about two years ago I had had a Mondeo 2000 model ST24 V6 in a magnificent Pacific Green colour which always attracted attention and compliments. I was planning to treat it as a classic car, spend money on it and keep it the rest of my life. I'd read there were only 4 or five of this model left on the road in Australia at that time. Apparently only 166 sold in Australia before Ford stopped importing Mondeos for seven years. Sadly a young lady who may have been arguing with her bf and wanted to kill him drove through a stop sign at speed and crashed into the left side of the car, rendering it unrepairable. I was very impressed that after 22 years the side airbag inflated and helped protect my passenger.
Love, love, love Mondeo’s! We have owned every version after the original and have the last one, the 2019 MD in a wagon.
All have been fantastic.
Our 1998 MK2 hatch in England gets driven for 9 months by my cousin, a couple of times a month.
We go over for 3 months on holiday and drive all over the place, in the UK and Europe, doing thousands of K’s in those few months.
Always reliable and comfy, which is important when you are 2,000 kilometres away from home in Kent, in Spain or Italy.
Ford killed off possibly their best car.
I got myself a 2.0 diesel 2017 mondeo on the 67 plate and have owned for 2 years now, it had 50,000miles when I first picked it up and broke down the next day from a failed water pump, luckily covered under warranty 😅 but also in the 2 years I have owned this car, it has had 3 oil leaks, always from the same crappy tin gasket, apart from this it’s a really nice car to drive if you’re doing the miles, I’ve found the entertainment system and navigation to be better than most cars , really simple to use
My ex-wife is driving one right now. I’m glad it is a safe vehicle. Haven’t heard any bad comments about it. Of course since she nor I am paying for it. I was disabled shortly after purchasing the car. I highly recommend buying disability insurance when buying cars. I only made 5 payments out 72. So I’m thrilled 😁. Great content can’t wait to see the Ford Edge by the she had the 2017 model.
“Space down here for a burner phone….. in case you’re a drug dealer!” OMG 😂😂 AK that’s hilarious mate, almost did a spit take with my coffee (not a pretentious small one). Amazing.
Time to cancel an inspection! Thanks for making these.
This really is one of the most valuable car review channels on CZcams. Helping people make good car buying decisions.
I have the much lesser known 2015 1.5 econetic variant which doesn't have the power it deserves naturally, but for my needs it's damn near perfect. Spacious boot, comfy drive with a really quiet cabin is a nice luxury, and the cherries on the top have been the 12 speakers and the upgraded sync 3 unit i stuffed in which truly transforms the infotainment system into something useable, unlike the horrific Sync 2 unit that came as standard on my model.
Awesome car.
IS 1.5 has a week spots?
@@georgidinev5020 as in known issues you mean? Not really that I'm aware of, not many people have it so any issues are less documented. So far in my years of ownership the only things I've had trouble with is rear brakes being rusted on the insides and the god awful headlights being rubbish.
good stuff guys
Love my 2016 Trend. Eats up the hiway miles , get over 1000kms per tank, looks great in dark blue, can tow and swallow heaps in the hatch, super quick off the lights if you change a few settings.
what settings?
Is your Mondeo a Petrol of Diesel. What settings are you referring to for better performance?
I was waiting for you to insert 'but its crap' for the trip calculator lol
My family has a 2019 mk5 1.6 ecoboost auto estate. There was a manual option aswell, but it was sold out in Estonia.
2016 2ltr twin turbo 215bhp estate with full factory body kit. A great car.
Have a 2015 Titanium X 180bhp 2 litre diesel going towards 90,000 miles for the last 6 years and it’s been superb to drive full of safety kit and been really reliable, only none service item repair is a gasket on the fuel pump otherwise been faultless. Much better than a top heavy SUV being far more dynamic on the road. Highly recommend over a Stupidly Ugly Van with windows!
Had a 2012 over here in NZ... great little(ish) car. Sold it to upgrade and within a month the PowerShit tranny shat it's daks. Unlucky - for the bloke that bought it, but at least he knew the gamble he was taking - many don't.
Nice video! What about let Jim and/or other ReDriven staff say if they will also buy the featured car in the videos?
Got a 2017 Trend diesel wagon to replace the 2011 Passat diesel wagon. Suspension and steering much better than passat. Nice interior, plenty of space and heaps of torque (400 Nm), so it shifts along when needed. The getrag DSG is fine, though I will give it an oil and filter change soon. Had a previous generation Mondeo petrol ecoboost DSG in the form of a Volvo S60 and it too was great to drive. Agreed with AK, sedans and wagons are so much better to drive than most SUV's, although our previous Territory Diesel SZ was a fine drive for a large and heavy SUV, and was great for towing around 2 tonne of trailer. As for options for a roomy and economical wagon for the boss lady to drive her many km, well, there's not a lot of choice really now is there? And now they've given up selling Mondeos in Oz, there's one less choice.
In general, any owner of any car tends to defend the car he has. But the Mondeo really is under rated in general. I actually own an even older face lifted mk4, and if I were to buy a car now, I would buy it again. It's great value for the money and it drives so, so well an reliable. Yes it is old, not that sharp looking anymore, not that much tech ,but I don't care. It just drives and drives every day, loads of space, great handling, great engine, 0 rust. It's a 2.0 tdci safely mapped to 190hp, 230k km on the clock, even the clutch and DMF are stock. Very very good cars. Not all the good stuff has moved to the mk5, the mk4 might be the last dinosaur in terms of reliability and fun driving, but my next car will definitely be the mk5.
I feel like I see these all the time but I never knew what they were called until this video.
My grandparents had one of these and the DSG was faultless. The diesel model does not seem to get that many issues with the DSG compared to similar transmissions from other brands (VW). If it has full service history and havent been flogged they last for ages. it had 170k kms when they traded it in for a new escape.
I own a 2016 Mondeo Titanium Ecoboost which I bought new. No major mechanical or electrical issues so far. Just touching on a few things, based on my experience with it:
1. Titanium has the same seats as the Trend, except it's trimmed fully in leather rather than part leather/part suede. It's only the Ambiente that had different seats. Interior wise - personally, I think at the time it was launched, it was the most 'premium' feeling interior in any Ford sold in Australia. I still struggle to think of an Australian delivered Ford that has a better interior - including the current generation cars. Unless your mate was talking about aesthetics, which is entirely subjective - I can't agree about the interior.
2. Central locking - the worst it's ever got for me was not unfolding the passenger side mirror when I unlock the door. Otherwise it's worked every time.
3. Windows lowering itself - that has happened once before, and thankfully, never again.
4. Physical buttons in the centre stack - every Australian delivered car has physical buttons. As far as I'm aware, it was only the North American market that got capacitive buttons.
5. Touch screens work 99% of the time. Absolutely agree that Sync 2 is slow to respond, but voice control isn't that bad. There's only been a few occasions when it couldn't understand me.
Honestly, you've done a pretty decent review, especially about how it's underrated, but I'm not entirely sure how you can then turn around and say that the Mazda 6, Toyota Camry, Kia Optima and Hyundai Sonata are better buys. I recall Wheels magazine did a 'mega-test' of mid size family cars back in 2017 and the Mondeo came second only to the Passat, but ahead of Camry, Optima, 6, and Sonata. I may be biased, as I'm unashamedly a Ford fan and have owned nothing but Fords in my 23 years of driving and owning cars, but if I had my time all over again, I wouldn't change a thing. Based on looks, features, comfort, and driving experience, it was one of the best cars in the segment that is too often overlooked for no discernable reason.
One other thing: fuel economy. You're absolutely right that it will probably never achieve its advertised figures. My Titanium Ecoboost has an advertised fuel economy of 8.5L/100km, but I generally average around 9.5-10.3 depending on how much stop-start driving I do. It's still not too bad for a car of its size, but unless you do a lot of highway journeys, 8.5L/100km is almost unachievable.
One of my sister's boyfriend's bought one of these. Three repair bills almost ruined the apprentice chef. Poor bastard.
I AGREE with you, but unfortunately the EU market and today's trend doesn't agree! Because Ford has recently announced that they are going to discontinue the Ford Mondeo in the EU market.
I'm lost for words about that, I even did a video discussing about the discontinuation of the Ford Mondeo in Europe. Being a D-segment, it has its advantages and versatility, but then it does have production costs for the company.
Greetings from Belgium
We've been fortunate to have own 3 and currently still have one. MB XR5,MC Titanium Tdci and MD Titanium Tdci. They are hilariously underrated cars. The best were the MC Mondeo being that it handles far better,feels like it is built better. Avoid buying the diesel if you don't do much long trips for DPF burn. The only issue we've ever had was the fuel atomiser blockaged on the MC which lead to DPF fault code. $250 part and all good again. Biggest surprise was heated windscreen which was brilliant when parked outside in Melbourne's winter. AC performance is ok but the heater will cook you though.
AVOID DIESEL?!?!?!
@@MiguelGouveiaFreitas on a use case basis. For us we've chosen the diesel as it suited our driving demands and it actually had the better DSG. Petrol engine had the problematic dry clutch DSG whereas the diesel had the better wet plates DSG.
We got an 07 mondeo when our merc clk failed its mot with a long and expensive list of faults. The mondeo is on a 140 k and runs very well, we are very pleased with it, minor downside is manual g/box which after 15 +yrs of auto boxes takes a bit of getting used to. So we are slowly looking for an auto box mondeo.
I'd say that crossing kangaroos are not a big risk in the Netherlands. However, in some regions crossing boars and deer are a risk. In my province, there is only the risk of the elderly on too fast ebikes.
Own a mondeo 2l diesel 2011 150k miles drives great. Brill car.
2010 mc tdci zetec hatch with 230000klms and owned since 18mths old. Ford replaced the dsg clutches under warranty at 50000klms. Only expense has been $1100 for timing belt water pump service at 200000klms. Do engine oil and dsg fluid myself when due. One set of pads and rotors all round at 110000klms.5 ltrs /100 highway and 6.2 Sydney suburban driving.
Commenting from the US: as far as mechanical issues, the engines to have the least likely issues are the 2.5l duratec, hybrid and the gen 1 2.0 ecoboost (13-16, especially spanish assembled engines). I havent heard anything bad regarding the 2.7 ecoboost found in the sport from 17-19, but the 1.5, 1.6 and gen 2 2.0 have an inherent coolant intrusion flaw that has a recall out for the 17-19 models. In 2020, they came with the updated block.
With all of that being said, as long as you follow the service schedule, and maybe even do some maintenance a little early such as the transmission and oil changes, your car should last a long time.
I’ve owned my Fusion for about 4 years now and put about 100k miles on it. Today it sits just shy of 200k miles. Mine is a 2013 1.6l Ecoboost which in the US is known to be one of the least reliable motors. It has never let me down. These cars are very very well equipped when it comes to technology. There is also a lot of interchangeability between the newer refreshed designs. One of the biggest complaints in the US on the Fusion is the transmission. It is known to have a harsh 2nd-3rd shift that Ford writes off as normal. Ford also claims the fluid in the transmission is good for the lifetime of the vehicle. This is absolutely a terrible idea. The key to these transmissions is to only perform a drain and fill for the fluid. There have been many reports from owners that have Ford do a FLUSH which typically dislodges something and results in a failed transmission a few thousand miles later. Anyways I did a drain and fill at 100k miles. I drive my car hard and I even tow my jet ski with it. The trunk is HUGE! I have been doing mobile detailing out of my car for a while now and I can fit all of my equipment back there. Most Fusion owners are jealous of the Mondeo and the 5-door design because here in the US we have a regular trunk with a pretty awkward opening. Anyways, I always recommend the Fusion/Mondeo to anyone trying to get the most bang for their buck feature-wise!
Have you had any issues with the front cv axle seal, mine had one which at the time was on a Ford TSB.
I have had from new a 2008 mk4 2.5t Ghia. HB It now has 220,000 km on the clock and with regular servicing , I have had only minor problems. The interior is still in perfect condition and after covering nearly 10,000 km since the last service it has used almost no oil, also no rust on the body. The infotainment is dated but a simple iphone connection to the system gives me Spotify, Google maps etc. I have often thought of going for a newer model but cannot find a good reason to do so!
Have run a 2014 base model LX for about 5 years. Passenger door lock stopped working, steering wheel buttons intermittently not working. Cruise control only works when it wants to. Bluetooth is for phone calls only. Cannot stream music! Radio changes channels itself once a phone call is ended! I'd suggest avoiding the early model and go straight for the facelift. Non-turbo petrol engine is gutless. It's a big heavy car. Go either turbo petrol or diesel.
I was going to say that the diesel engine used in these was also used in the Freelander 2, but Jim beat me to it :-)
Love my 2017 fusion se. I got it 3 months ago with 12,247 miles. It now has 19,212 miles. I can't stop driving it. I've tinted the windows, and put new wheels on it. The best driving car I've ever had. Mine has the 2.5l and I get 30mph.
I found it for 20,500 usd.
@@kevinosborne8308I reckon it'd go faster than 30mph.
Have you tried second gear?
50 mpg in my Mazda 6😬
@@alanjm1234 70,000 miles , almost two years later. Still in first gear. 🤣
This was a car I was considering getting when I eventually buy a new car but after you guys saying it's going the way of the dodo and the fact that I've seen your other reviews for similar cars in the same category I'd say you've convinced me not to buy one.
When Adam was blanking on the hows it drive video I could almost hear another day in paradise going through his noggin lol 😆
Out of curiosity have you gents worked out roughly how much the Redriven water bottles and t-shirts are going to cost if/when you decide too do the merch and will the t-shirts have different Redriven quotes on them as well?
Keep up the good work guys and I have a feeling you'll have your silver play button before the start of September at the rate you're pulling in subscribers and I'll keep pushing the channel to people I know as well to try and help spread the word lol 👍
As usual look forward to next weeks videos and trying to guess the car reviewed on Friday.
You’re an absolute legend! Thank you mate!
As for merch, it’s just around the corner, so stay tuned. Question for you… if we did a quote-style shirt, what quote do you think would work best?
Thanks again for spreading the good word!
@@ReDriven the 2 quotes that'd work best would be probably 'and here's a bet to put your fish in' or the one that gets said in every review video 'I'm not a mechanic so I'm not qualified to answer that... but Jim is'
I'm quite happy to spread the Redriven name as you guys are one of the least biased channels when you do the reviews and the top 5s are fun too watch, give you a chuckle and are informative.
Another great video Adam. I have a question for Sam. At the end when you do the bloopers, unlike a movie or TV show, you do not retake the shot from the beginning but just continue after the mistake. Sam, how do you edit all this as it looks as if it was all done in just one take. You are a generous….Fred
I bought a 2013 Fusion S about 3 years ago, I think it was in some kind of fleet as it had extremely low miles (under 18K miles in 2020). I traded a police interceptor Crown Victoria and had decent luck with it so wanted to stay with Ford. Mine has the 2.5liter non-turbo, and without direct injection because I wanted a rock solid, dependable car. In 45K miles I have had just oil and filter changes, rear brake pads (early, as I was about to take a 3,000 mile trip), and recently replaced the tires. That's it. The car is as basic as they come, but has everything I need.
I agree that Ford should have made the hatchback available here in the 'states because of the trunk/boot opening being a bit short...the wagon would have been even better.
Things that I don't like? I don't like that the odometer/tripmeter "disappears " when you have less than 3 gallons in the tank. And extendable sun visors would be nice. Other than that, I love it and have considered replacing this Fusion with a newer Hybrid Fusion. As it is I average only 33-34 MPG in mixed driving.
Best feature? The nearly incredible front seat legroom. I nearly bought a Camry but the Fusion has about 2 inches more legroom and I am tall.
Loved the review but would like to know what other cars to consider when looking at a mondeo what’s up the list ?
Cheers Gary
We have a 2015 Titanium x pack with the 2.0 tdci 180bhp engine,19" rims,Boot spoiler, 6 speed manual. Beautiful car, has 148k on the clock, Perfect family car especially having a child of 8 months now, had to get rid of my Focus ST 225 2.5 5 cylinder, running dreamscience mod X rs with all mods (about 310 bhp) priorities change when ya have a kid but so far best decision I made, best car I've owned so far. 👍 😆
I got the same car as you in white and I think it will be difficult to find a comparable replacement when the time comes. Btw I think our 2015 2.0 engine is better then the 2016-and on.
I love mine! 65mpg!
I rented a Fusion Titanium a few years ago and it was a great drive but one thing I had never experienced before was the torque steer under hard acceleration. Never experienced it in any other Mondeo or Focus I'd previously driven in Europe but the Fusion definitely suffered from. Curious if its something you guys experienced that on the Mondeo you drove??
HUGELY underrated.
Why get the beige cardigan (Camry)?
Awesome review as always. I’m interested that you didn’t mention the ZB commodore as an alternative. It seems like they also could be an underrated car that’s in the same class as this. Maybe you could do a review on a ZB that has the 2 liter turbo engine in the future? Keep up the great work 👍
ZB is incredibly high on our "to do" list mate. Can't wait to film it. - AK
I have a 2016/66 plate titanium 2.0TDCi estate in the UK, estate is a wagon. Brilliant cars, i argee the sat nav is crap & so are the rain sensing wipers. Just wish i'd gone for an automatic & not a manual but i'd recommend one to anyone. I'm assuming since the aussie cars are built in spain like the UK models the diesel engine is also the same peugeot engine
Before this model, XR5 and 20 years ago St24. Both great drives.
Asking for a friend....how's the Cardriven bumper stickers and t-shirts going? 👕 🤔 😎
I have a 2013 Fusion with 170k miles, runs like a top, love this car, but I’m considering trading mine in for a newer model Sport. I like the idea of 325hp TTV6 and AWD. Basically a sports car in a sedan/saloon disguise
Sync 3 is not crap. neither is sync 2. we own them both and I like the sync 3 better since it had carplay but it works better than most infotainment systems I've used
Rotate the tyres front to rear every service, otherwise the rears chop out - slight negative camber. Cross winds can knock it around on the freeway. Otherwise, not a single issue in our 2016 with 95,000 kms up. No warranty claims. Nothing. Totally reliable.
We needed a family car and just happened to go to the auctions where we stumbled across a 2015 2.0 ecoboost Titanium model, we never considered them in the past until we saw how nice it was for the money. We were surprised with how big and practical the big boot opening and space was, which suited us perfectly with bulky prams, shopping etc. It drives really well and we've been really happy with it.
When we go for regular servicing at ford, they told us that they don't have recommended intervals for servicing the gearbox as they're a 'sealed unit'. This doesn't sit well with me and I'll be looking to have the fluid changed elsewhere soon.
One issue that surprised us was that when we got a flat tire one day - we found out just how rubbish the original ford lug nuts are. They're steel lugs nuts coated in aluminum, which swell over time making them an odd size and easily damaged/stripped when trying to remove them with a socket. I recommend being proactive and changing them to all steel lug nuts so that you're not stuck on the side of the road.
I agree with the wheel nut issue. I replaced some of these nuts only days ago while doing repairs to a 2018 model. A real issue!
Imagine a flat tyre scenario. A similar problem also found with some late Nissan Pathfinder models.
I’m hearing ya, got myself a can of tire sealant. Should get me to the shop and let them deal with the wheel nuts.
Nice review, can't help but think Jim might be lumping the dry clutch powershift issues of the focus/fiesta models with the wet clutch version on the Mk5 Mondeo? You generally don't hear of too many issues with them?..
He mostly said (more) regular servicing and clunky off the line. Not that they are a box of garbage like the dry clutch units.
I had 2013 and 2016 Ford Fusion SE. I don't know how the better trim level is but SE does not have comfortable seat. At least for me. But my friends who ride in my car they didn't liked the seat either. The headrest is bad too. It is too forward out it hurts your neck. I have seen several drivers who drove the same car had their headrest rotated backwards. I did the same too. Right now I drive Ford Escape SE.... that seat is worse than the Fusion. I respect Ford but they got to make their seats better the their headrests.
Im a massive Ford enthusiast. But this opinion is not biased, i have not owned a ford for 3 years, and ive had 4 cars of different brands. Alot of experience with focus and mondeo.
The mondeo is easy top 5 of the best cars ever made. They are ridiculously equiped, VERY reliable (if they do go bad, super cheap to fix), they are comfy, "fast" and handsome. All this based on the price point, you CANNOT get more car for the money. For some reason, Ford isnt looked at as a premium car, but make no mistake, i would pick a mondeo Ghia X over any 3-5 series.
The mark 3 is hand down the most car that money can buy.
I like mine, bought it 10\21.
Trend TDCI hatch. MY 2018.75. 1st registered Jan '20. Ex demo 3.6 k. $30k. 5.8-6.3 l\100km suburbs\freeway.
Check out Alan Howat's vids on MDs as taxis in the UK. Seems biggest issues are EGR valves and cam chain slippers up around the 300k mark.
Cool Aston Martin
Love your work!
Can we get a Holden Caprice review in the future?
Hi,queastion about wheels
What is the max tyre size on 18 inch rims
Can i put 235-50-18 without problem?
Mondeo MK5 2017.
After seeing the bi turbo raptor/ wildtrack with the forced induction gaps in the grill.. I cant not see where the grills on other fords like the mondeo, would house an forced induction inlet...
Do you have thoughts about the longer term reliability of the DCT. Lots of conflicting information online but how bad are they?
I got a manual transmission model. I think mine was one of the last.
Mondeo it's called the Ford contour in the United States. Also sold as the mercury mystique. Almost the same car as the one in Europe.. later name was changed to fusion. Also was also a Lincoln version, LTZ
The Ford Contour name was only used for the first generation.
The Fusion name has been used for years.
@@williamegler8771 since 2006. My point was it was not only known as the fusion. And people forget about the mercury and Lincoln versions
@ReDriven
Went you guy reviewing use holden Astra and used Toyota hatchback?
Great video 👏. Just one request, can you do the mpg figures for the UK audience too please? 🙏
Great tip! We’ll start adding it in
@@ReDriven thank you 😊
In the UK the petrol autos use a torque converter box.
I will give my 5 cents about why I drive (and like) an SUV. Particularly, because here in North Europe, the weather can be quite capricious and we have lots of snow/ice and what feels like ~4 months of the year there's minimum a possibility for snow. Having an SUV with extra ground clearance gives lots more confidence over "hidden" snow-covered roads and especially during melting or fluctuation between +/- 0 it is just a lot more reliable to drive.
Edit: Mondeo to me looks like a budget Aston Martin. Front side looks great, but every other side I personally really dislike (especially the back-end)
I live in a very snowy part of canada and my fusion is fine in the snow. I love winter driving though.
Actually my wagon mondeo is less practical than the hatch, due to a cargo barrier which I haven't bothered to remove.... yet! No complains about the navigation system, although google maps is waaaay better. Have to agree about the voice control system, maybe it only works in 'murica when wearing a cowboy hat and holding a banjo. Interior plastics are crap and have pretty much melted away in the sun in the 2008 hatch with 352k km. No mechanical issues and can still do 1100km with one tank and under 6l/100km. As for my 2016 diesel wagon, it's going great, I've bought it with 80k and still only have 130k km on the clock. Will have to say a bit heavier and doesn't handle as well as the old hatch, but the engine is way torquier and the DSG is smooth as.
Service transmission every 20k. Use correct fluid (any manufacturer, nulon, penrite, castrol, gulf western etc). Use 1 bottle of Lucas transmission fix along with said trans fluid. Don't stop doing this. Reset the computers in the vehicle by removing the battery terminals and turning on the headlights. Wait 30 minutes then reattach. For some strange reason, resetting via a computer or scantool will not make the vehicle default to factory settings.
172000 mile never missed a beat only problem was replacement injectors.