Light Phone 2 Review | Can This Phone Cure Your Social Media Addiction?
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Light Phone II ($350) is the second iteration of a device that returns the cell phone to its roots; namely, there is no way to use social media. You can play music and order ride shares, but beyond that you're essentially limited to calls and texts. Its E Ink display and small form factor are a striking contrast to the iPhone you're using right now.
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I like how everyone seems so uncomfortable by the idea of a phone that's just a phone
I think its great. Like I said above. I just use my LTE apple watch when I want to disconnect. I can still get calls from my kids and text them if necessary, but not much else.
I guess because a phone is no more a phone now days...sad
It made me giggle! "It does what it's supposed to but because of that I don't like it" LOL
Part of the problem I have with it is that it's *not* just a phone. If it were just a phone, it would only make calls and possibly text.
This is basically a smartphone without social media, which ... is dumb. If you want a smartphone without social media, get a normal smartphone and don't put any social media apps on it.
@@BrianHartman well that’s not how addiction works - that’d be like putting meth in front of a meth addict. “Just don’t do it.” The idea here with this phone is to completely remove the possibility Of Tuning into those things. Some people do have problems with it
They're missing out on an important marketing angle: no Apple or Android software. For anyone concerned about privacy, that's a big selling point.
Huge, huge!
its based off of an android kernel.
@@checknate8820 Which is based on the linux kernel.
If you don’t engage in any traceable behavior then it doesn’t really matter. You are not inputting any personal data
I think photo and video is important for business.
"You'll be left behind" guy must have such a cool life.
He looks like he probably spends a little too much time on his phone, on Reddit.
Give it a user friendly ui, Spotify, and Bluetooth. A premium feeling, no headphone Jack for waterproofing, and you have a customer.
It has Bluetooth, Spotify probably defeats the purpose. If it had navigation and ability to get uber-lyft.
That defeats the purpose then... I don’t want any apps. I want to make calls and texts. Everything else is a perversion of modern society...
@@peters2717 Does it at least have a music player of some sort? Can I upload my CDs into it?
@@utub1473 It does have a music player now, although I'm not sure how much storage it has. It also has a podcast tool. As for spotify, they've acknowledged the demand, but have noted that integrating it would require them working directly with spotify to be able to create compatibility with a new OS.
@@willleinberger8057 I'd rather they use Tidal over Spotify. The former is much higher quality.
If lightphone adds Spotify support I’m in. All I use my phone for is music anyway
Just download the albums you're listening to at that time and enjoy the music more fully. I've gone for this and don't regret it as the net benefit of not being on my phone for hours on end is excellent.
The pretentiousness put me off to this review. "No one has *wired headphones anymore"? Really?
Same
yeah but right after that same dude pointed out the awareness of companies like Apple with screen time apps and usage
Agree 100%. Literally watched this review with my wired headphones.
Lol yeah
That’s why these guys seem sketch. Nobody watches their videos, they have pretty much no subscribers, yet have an expensive ass office.
I love the size, I like the concept, sadly the company doesn't have resources to charge what the market wants to pay.
Resources? This phone was being sold in China 2 years ago for 80 dollars, all they did was rebrand it and overcharge for it.
johnmonk66 shit are you serious? They had an Indiegogo and everything as if they just invented the wheel.
@@johnmonk66 u have sources man?? cuz i really want to know
@@sleepinghippo8076 Kyocera Card-Keitai right here on youtube
@@johnmonk66 they want $300 for it
Really interesting to watch these reviews by members of the zombie
apocalypse club, people who are addicted to their smart phones and are
totally unaware of the debilitating nature of their disease.
They should try watching "The Social Dilemna" although I suspect they
would simply deny the existence of the smart phone pandemic that is
sweeping the world.
I'm reminded of the Startrek TNG episode entitled "The Game" where
members of the crew are enticed into donning a headset that allows
them to play a game that is psychotropically addictive, having been
created by a foreign race that is using the device to gain control
of Starfleet.
I feel like I'm in that space when I see people walking around
constantly checking their smart phones and totally unaware of their
surroumdings.
To me this appears to be the perfect phone to give to a teenager to
prevent them from joining the lost generation, the people who can't
think for themselves and are slaves to their click suggestions.
That’s SO funny you mention The Game. I watched that episode recently after discussing The Light Phone with someone and it struck me how addicted I am to certain screens.
$300 is a lot to pay for this kind of simplicity but I may jump on the bandwagon soon. Even YT has become an addiction and Instagram is nothing but targeted ads now.
Glad someone else saw that parallel 👍🏻
Mother was outside daughter's restaurant looking across the street when she saw a woman of a certain age fall over onto the ground. She said close by there was a young man who was browsing his phone. He looked up from his phone to notice she was on the ground and proceeded to look back to phone as if nothing had happened beside him.
haha i love your way of putting that x
The big appeal to this phone is its supported on a 4G LTE network. A lot of these flip phones and “dumb phones” max out at 3G. With many networks dropping 3G by 2022, you will be forced to get something more modern. This will at least last you. Though $350? Maybe just delete your social media and internet from your smartphone.
So if your $40 3g phone stops working in 2 years, you buy another $40 phone.
My only hope would be music apps. If I can't get spotify or apple music, it seems like a step back. Everything else it does I'm on board with
Exactly me too
Out of curiosity what storage space would you like to see in a phone like this? Would 32GB be acceptable?
Even classic music MP3 player would be fine
Totally agree. I need music. I would love to get one when they are able to add music apps.
I saw on their site that they have music and podcast "tools" for download, which seem to be apps. (Though I think the music tool is essentially an old school MP3 player).
No one has wired earphones/headphones? I think you'd be surprised.
Tfatk
Wires forever (except for sports)
I just got new wired headphones for my laptop today and I’m super happy that they’re not Bluetooth
IKR. These CA/NY boiz a little out of touch haha.
Left behind? I’m already left behind!!! Lol I was born in 94. And I still remember having a turn dial phone in the house. And using the razor phone.
I remember being less PO in my life before I got my first iPhone. Lol
Couple of things detractors in the comments are missing:
- E-ink for eye protection. This is huge and people aren't focussing on it enough.
- "Just delete apps from your regular phone" but I can't... I need Outlook etc for work. This phone is to grab on the weekend when heading to the beach, or out with friends/family.
- The whole point is to remind you, every time you pick it up, to only use it for as long as you have to. It's the phone version of a nicotine patch.
Last year I got myself my first apple watch. I got the LTE version. If I want to disconnect, I leave my phone at home. I can make and receive calls and texts with my apple watch. ad not much else. If you have an iphone, an apple watch LTE version is counterintuitively a great way to disconnect.
@@LA-2127 Who cares. It still lasts more than a day. So I have 30% battery left at the end of the day rather than 45%
@@LA-2127 Its +$10/month. The same as if you get a Light Phone on the same number as the primary. So its a light phone you wear on your wrist.
good point but 1. you have a emf device near your body at all times and 2. apple hardware
It’s painfully depressing that we live in a society with a shared mentality of “ this PHONE doesn’t do anything but CALL or TEXT”? 🙄
Not really that depressing. It’s like saying, “This CAR only allows you to DRIVE??” We expect automobiles these days to have more comfort features than they did we they were first invented. Comfortable seats, air conditioning, heating, the ability amplify music... these are the most basic things that we expect and you can’t buy a car that doesn’t have it anymore. Same concept
@@Michaelkroh sounds like someone who is addicted to social media and is in denial
I understand the philosophy behind the phone, but I can buy a phone without the social media apps for 10 dollars.
Steef Jordans exactly!
I think they're trying a more modern approach with the apps you would sort of need. Like a maps application and such.
@@TheSuperTyree I see what you are saying. But for that price range you can have a pretty good smart phone. Any smart phone nowadays is so flexible. You can have the apps you want and don't want. You can set your notifications or get rid of them. You can use the phones they way you want. I don't really see the need for such a phone. Unless you maybe have a lack of self discipline. You control the apps, the apps don't control you!
@Kris The argument that we can just "not download the apps" that cause the distractions would be a solid argument if everyone had strong discipline, but not a lot of us do. I definitely don't, which is why this option appeals to me a lot.
@@soundwave1986 thats the whole point, people are losing self control when it comes to these apps. I would definitely suggest this for children, but Id add a camera on the back only. This would also be good for dudes in the noFap community that are trying to break their porn addiction, as nice as it sound "dont let apps control you", thats exactly whats happening.
I've tried this phone, great idea & concept but way too expensive for a device that simple, battery drains in less than a day, touch screen is sluggish and hard to interact with, I am disappointed & surprised.
I feel the same exact way, I’m so sad because I really wanted to love it! Texting is slow and frustrating for sure. Can’t message fast
@@justplanejackie if I'm referring to your complaint, that thing is way more sluggish than a cheap Android 4g smartphone. So why waste money on that crap
I can honestly say that I hate my iPhone and pretty much any other “smartphone” or tablet out there. The only reason i keep it around is because I can listen to music and audiobooks on it. Although the light phone doesn’t support music or audiobooks. I think I might just go ahead and try it.
Very appropriate phone for children. Keep in contact when away from them and safely tucked away from all social media vices.
It's 299 now. These same people who complained about the price probably buy a 800 dollars iPhone.
Love the idea and I just ordered one. But It could be so much better. It should have al the essential tools for modern life. Maps, Money/banking, call/text, flashlight, calc/calender, uber, Music streaming. That would make the perfect light phone. I hope they come out with a 3rd version or better yet, a customizable version where you can pick what features you want like ordering a new car.
No. It's to end the addiction, it shouldn't have all that stuff
So your critique of a purely minimalist phone is that it’s.. too minimalist?
@@mlongman yes. The idea is to get rid of internet and mindless social media browsing. However not having those things I listed is a huge inconvenience. I don't want to go back to the stone age I just want to end internet addiction.
@@kylerkiesecker4166 Fairs mate. In that case i’d suggest apps like opal that lock these apps during set hours of the day. Much better option as is what I use now 👍
Two important things that would make this perfect imo 1.A camera 2 . A Bluetooth alternative as Bluetooth can be extremely slow something like nearby share may be .
5:05 speak for yourself. Lol
Going to be left behind lol please
Came here after watching "The Social Dilemma". Anyone who has seen this film, will see this phone more attractive today, than they did before watching this film. Since watching this film, I have deleted all my social media accounts and I am going off the grid (sort of). My next step is to purchase this phone. I want to go back into the real world and I am taking huge steps to get there! We live in a world where "likes and shares" determine our existence. This account will be the last to be deleted!
I owned the first lightphone and used it until it was phased out recently (annoying). I've purchased the iphone 2. I think people should know that one thing you should expect when purchasing this product is really spotty customer service. That's been a consistent problem with the lighphone experience for me.
Thank you. I needed a good video to decide to buy and you fit the bill.
Hahaha. I love seeing all the phone addicts saying they couldn’t live with it.
I think they’re kinda missing the point which he admits at the end. It’s suppose to be what a cell phone use to be. Calls and texts... yes we use to live like that at one point not too long back....
I think it fits as I use to use a flip phone when iPhone came out. Gonna get one and use my iPhone in morning. This the rest of the day
@Donald Mayne*Used to be. Not use to be.
Please add voice to text typing feature as keyboard is so small, it should support multiple languages, also a voice translator is required in emergency situations along with SOS
I'd say personally, that additional functionality is likely to *hard reduce* the value proposition. Concise and laid-back feature set and interface, and most-importantly, *an e-ink screen* ? YES PLEASE! (Though I might just get a brick phone instead...)
This device could be used in conjunction with a laptop or pc. You can still discover music and use social media but it's much easier to have control over what time is devoted to that when it's not also attached to your phone.
I love the ideas behind this phone and can't wait to see it develop. Maybe just a few steps closer to typical smart phones, like allowing GPS apps of your choice and allowing music streaming services at their usual capacity (to me, they are not nearly as distracting as social media). Not being able to receive photos in text messages seems like a deal breaker to me too, but I can understand not including a camera. Notes app is also essential to me and maybe a voice recorder
agreed. I don't mind not being able to take pics but I definitely would still like to receive them. they did introduce a music player recently so not much is holding me back from getting one besides maybe the price
This man really just said “a good dry January phone” Jesus Christ
Lmfao
Hope this is better and more intuitive than the Punkt MP.02, which I have and is a buggy piece of trash.
From our Tech Editor Eric - "I'm sure this is “better” but uh it is still a little undercooked."
Wish yall would've mentioned the MP02, and any other offerings.
I really like this idea but if you actually were into unplugging why wouldn't you just buy a flip phone and save like $300?
I would like a cell phone that can send/receive calls, block calls, receive texts (to get those codes from CZcams and Paypal), but can't send text, and have a good camera.
Would have been great to ask everyone "What would it need for you to switch to it?"
Is there one just like this but with gps included? It'd be perfect
the appeal of a phone that does this concept is that you can still take advantage of utility apps like maps, Google searches, texting, and music without using your phone as a media consumption device or a method of parasocial interaction. I hope an equilibrium can be found for these things, and I think it'll come when we stop mixing utility and enjoyment into one device.
Light Phone is awesome - a must have !!!
I'd like it if it had bluetooth, emojis, the ability to see pictures and videos sent via messages, streaming music and podcasts, the ability to support Signal, and the ability to support a firewall & vpn (as well as a high quality camera and maps & ride sharing apps). Otherwise I'll just use my "dumb" phone sitting in my drawer. I'd love for this to be able to do what "dumb" phones can't, without being a full smartphone. A good middle ground. Then I'd be sold. I'm excited for what the company will make in the future.
If I could get directions, uber, and music on it I would be sold.
Wow perfect!!! Exactly what I want. Thanks for the review
I'd use it, I still use blackberry
Me too :)
Think of the time you can save
"you will be left behind"
Cal Newport: hold my beer.
The only problem I have with this is the fact that screens take too long to load once you press something. I'm making texts or calls usually in a hurry, so seeing a phone take it's time while I press something actually pisses me off not gonne lie. But the concept of a phone to detox yourself from social media and addiction is not a bad idea.
You are asking the wrong people to review it. First of all, you need to understand how much social media are overrated before you buy anything like this. Problem is, your mobile company will still sell you a data plan by default, whether you use a smartphone or not.
I love this! The one question I have can it preload all my contacts from my Android or Iphone because if I have to put every single contact in manually I'm out. Remember doing that with flip phones!! WOW ! 4 days later you got half your contacts programmed lol .
@Richard F Glad to find someone who actually uses it! I’m considering purchasing and was wondering if I could transfer all of my messages from my iPhone to the Light phone as well? And if so, do you know what the capacity is on the Light phone, because I’m afraid I’d be over that with the amount of messages I would have. (Bonus question, I was assuming it doesn’t do MMS, is that correct?)
It needs: music, lyft, waze/ maps, and lite cash app tool
Oof didn’t even think about venmo...
agreed. It needs the essential tools for modern life and nothing more. Maps, Money/banking, call/text, flashlight, calc/calender, uber, Music streaming. That would make the perfect light phone.
A lot of yall are missing the point. It's meant to be minimalist. If you want internet and all the fancy apps, then just stick with your smart phone. Some people switch to this because they want to avoid the internet all together. That's me. I only want to use the internet when I have to. I don't like it being accessible all of the time.
Everything you can't do on the phone you can do on a computer/laptop etc. You just have to partition your time. UNLESS you are in a job that requites instant communication
"you'll just get left behind" Is the delusional and misguided statement of a phone addict.
I would like to see sometime like an Iphone/Android BUT with the same limits as the Light Phone. Easy to use but with limits.
I can understand the phone purpose. But how is the service in the countryside cause I live in deep in the countryside and just want a phone like this. Does the service work well in that environment?
a little too small and screen too small but pretty cool
the ONLY problem for me is that for comunicating everyone use whatsapp (at least in where i live) so for the university group and friends
this is the reason why i am looking also on kios phones
Hows the battery
Excellent review. Rudimentary features of a phone, call, text, navigation & spotify. My thoughts.
This phone misses the point a little bit, in that a minimalist phone experience isn't about "no texting" or "no social interaction", but it's about weaning off the distracting parasocial interactions with people you meet on apps like facebook or reddit. It should be easy and simple to interact with people you know IRL or need to contact practically (doctors, coworkers). The difficult to navigate UI does little for "minimalism" and does more to make the phone unappealing to use. "I hate using my phone, therefore I'm cured of my phone addiction!!". A minimalist phone should be quick, low headache and functional, and though I get the desire to make the experience unlike a smartphone, it still needs to be enjoyable. Adding in emojis and a camera wouldn't hurt anyone either
I want v3, but if you're black or are dating a black person, or have black children, you need a camera at a moment's notice. Can you add an "emergency" camera or something?
hi, i'm italian and i bought this phone. I am very disappointed and sad because it is slow and the touch does not work, you do not hear the ringtone and it always crashes. Now I don't understand if my phone is broken or everyone is like that. If they are all like this, this phone shouldn't have been on the market. Greetings from Italy
Hope they add at least 1 app like FB messenger. It's common here in our country to use messenger, it's free. So no need to top up the phone.
this is one of the funniest phone reviews i have ever watched
wow, just what i'm looking for. I have a computer for internet stuff
I read some of the review Digital Trends had and in their conclusions they compared it to Samsung phone for the same price that had many more features-literally missing the whole point of the phone.
Yeah the fact that once you buy it you need to wait for it to be shipped longer than a car, makes it seem like scam. Really sad.
It would be a BEAUTIFUL basic phone for kids, very old people or anyone else that doesn't want a smart phone but the $350 price tag is ridiculous (iPhone SE 2020 is $399). Bring it down to about $100-150 range and it could be successful. Let's be honest here, it's a basic phone, not some social media addiction sorcery.
Need to be able to set more than one alarm at a time
The keyboard is too basic with no ability to fix a misspelled words without deleting everything you typed
Fix the mirrored "L", it's stupid. I keep reading "Jight" instead of Light
How you do social networking internationally through Skype, messenger, Viber? Then what is the meaning of WiFi connection? Is it waterproof? Quite expensive?? Is same like old nokia so would prefer the cheaper one? If it says mobile cell phone and when network o then it should work isn’t it?
It should all those functions plus wife/online chat app to make cheaper internationally...prefer camera and voice recording
I really like the idea, especially with directions, but from the videos I have watched it is pricey, slow and needs streaming music apps. One market I think might be a great opportunity is kids and elderly. (Waterproof the dang thing)
Wow what snobs
So expensive
Reading through these comments are utterly hilarious. Everyone wants this thing to be a music player and a phone, when it's literally just supposed to be a phone XD
This is cool but I wouldn't buy it at the current price. I don't care how nice they make it look, $300 is too much for something so limited.
Can you use it as a hotspot for your tablet for example? Love the concept of the phone, just calls and text. But I would love to have a hotspot so if I need to I can check my email and other stuff if I need to on my tablet or laptop.
P.S.: I love the headphone jack, I don't have any wireless headphones ;)
p.p.s.: just saw the last minutes of the video and I hope that the hotspot becomes a feature of the phone in the future!! would love it!
I am getting a new phone just for social media and email purposes Having a one size fits all apparatus leads to a lot of procrastination and waste of productive and meaningful time.
Does this one have to connect to an existing phone, or is it completely independent?
5:56 Self control is a strange concept. One thing that has been learned about self control, at least in terms of habits is that is not very reliable. Especially with something like a smartphone that has apps within it designed specifically to get you hooked. So this guys judgemental comment is pretty ignorant IMO. Maybe he hasn't developed the habit. Good for him. Or he is just fine with staring at his phone all day. But for people that really want to change for the better I think this a great option and backed by what we know about behavior change.
I wish someone would make a proper phone like this. A phone is for making calls. If only the Nokia 7110 would come back.
Someone has made something similar but far cheaper. Go to gabbwireless.com
The concept is good. However, paying $350 for a tiny plastic finish product in 2020 makes me feel extremely sad. Why would I do that? Why not just buying a 2nd hand iPhone 3 and delete all the social media apps?
Go buy yourself an iphone 5 for $50. Phone, text, maps, rideshare, no social media. Small light. Even smaller and lighter since you can run it without a case.
I actually like the idea- I think it’s missing a few things, like a map would be nice, so would a Bluetooth for wireless headphones. I have to say, ultimately I don’t think the phone will matter as much as I’d like it to..for example: I still have to have near constant access to my email for work, school, etc, so I’ll still have to compulsively check my MacBook. It’s a small start but the way I see it, the economy and our way of life is more and more being built around the connectivity of the age- the same way most cities and towns are built around the idea of you absolutely needing a car..it just isn’t going to keep up with the demands of today. In short, I literally can’t afford to stay off the grid. Again, I would “like” to - no, love to, but I just don’t think it’s doable.
this isn't a review. it's just people looking at it. a review would be someone who has actually used this phone. duh
This was one of the most frustrating reviews I’ve ever watched. The first half was just unnecessary, or you could have at least recorded the guys using it instead of having 6 minutes of just talking about the phone without showing it. There is also a lot of pretentiousness in this review. I tried to skip to the main review and couldn’t finish.
$300 to buy a phone that is specifically incapable of things
Exactly, what make it expensive that much?
I do no social media (except youtube and reddit) so all the phones I've had are light phones.
Was really hoping this would be more like a pebble phone
Out of all the people praising this phone I wonder who actually owns one. People sure love talking the talk but how many are willing to walk the walk.
You do know the reasoning of the phone is to disconnect you from disconnecting on social media. The phone has a lot of useful functioning and it’s supposed to be a little harder to engage with your phone. The entire purpose. It seems like you guys are also very involved with the media and technology so of course your opinion is skewed. :)
I won’t buy until maps lol
Looks like people at an A.A. meeting doing a review for Alcohol Free Beer.
These guys really don't seem to get what the light phone is actually about. It's not meant to be a second phone or a temporary detox (although, sure, some people might use it that way). It is meant to be your phone. Your only phone. It's for people (myself included) who want to be able to call and text and listen to podcasts, without the distraction of social media.
Yes, the price is a little on the high side (typical for a niche product), but the idea that you could get a used iPhone for the same price completely misses the point. This is not intended to be a discount product. It's intended to be a product for people who are actively trying to avoid smartphones.
Also it was hilarious that the one guy thought that the headphone jack was a bug rather than a feature.
if you have the will power to buy and use this phone over your smartphone, you have the will to delete “distracting/addicting” apps, no? plus older “dumb phone” still exists and can be bought...i find this phone unnecessary
Yeah, that's kind of our takeaway also. At $350 it's pretty steep and you could get a phone that doesn't completely disconnect you unless you choose to. We do like the concept of needing a phone like this though, pretty interesting.
@@gearpatrol you can get a basic Android One Go phone for $100. Its hardware is crippled enough that u won't enjoy using it, but it has full software functionality that you're not wasting money. You can use Maps, sync all contacts with Google, do WhatsApp and texts and calls. Since you won't enjoy using it, you won't use it as much. Yet it'll still be there when you need it. And it's much cheaper.
@@heygem Yeah that's our take, you can get a full-fledged phone (or a couple) for the price and just limit yourself. We do like the premise but at its price it seems a little out of reach. BUT how do you create a phone as an independent company? The economies of scale have to hurt you pretty hard, it's incredibly impressive that these even exist.
Lmao, "it is a phone for people who don't want to use their phone, but do want to use their phone enough to get a separate phone that does nearly all of what their phone does except for like one or two very specific things."
Try, "it is a phone that is a phone."
4 min in and there is no review
Cost too much. Why not just Uninstall social media on your regular smart phone if the purpose is to reduce social attachment? Just saved you 300 bucks.
You could just lower your data plan making everything for emergencies only. 🤷♂️
Why not just buy a flip phone if this is what youre looking for? I feel like this phone is mostly about hipstery aesthetics. That said, i still kinda dig it
Unfortunately flip phones suck for texting. I think a lot of people want to text but don't want feeds in the face all the time.
I would rather buy hisense e ink phone since it’s has android 10
Gear Patrol, I'm not sure the concept of the video worked. This is first impression taken a bit far. I mean, half of the first 4 minutes were explaining to three different people what the phone was. Maybe a 2nd impression (say the on camera personality has had the phone for at least 10 minutes already) could have been more informative.
This is hilarious! Just get an old smart phone- most of the apps won’t work anyway. This is especially a rip-off at this price point... you could instead go with a flip phone. bUt ThiS OnE Is ChIC. Y’all, this is capitalism at its finest
does this phone have a gps?
No, but it's coming out with a step-by-steop 'directions' application relatively soon.