The Factory Behind The Millenium MPS 1000
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Oh my god I waited so long! I’m actually about to buy the Millenium MPs 1000 and I thought there was nobody doing reviews like you thanks
I have it, and I’d recommend to be careful cause if you play too loudly the bass drum trigger harness thing will break and the rubber bit on the snare rim can break
I’ve had my kit for 2 years, and the bass drum issue was only recent
same here! the video helped a lot
@@dantat5713oh really ? Wow I mean it’s the first time I heard that I guess that becomes a problem after time . Are you fixing it or how are you fixing it
@@KeZ_210 lots and lots of tape lol
I played an MPS 1000 for about 1 year and really recommend.
Caveats:
- Doing fast open hihat grooves with closing/opening: forget it. Unless you manage some crazy settings that make it good: I never did
- Hitting bell of ride consistently: forget it
- Choking of crashes: a bit frustrating and hard to get working right
- Double bass: unless you do really clean hits and never bury the beater, you will have to tweak settings every once in a while depending if you're doing a lot of double bass or not
It looks badass and playing on acoustic size is invaluable though, for the closer-to-real-acoustic-experience
Yeah, I'll tell you my experience (I'd say with millenium, given that xdrum is like a "rebrand", dunno what to call it)
Three years ago, I bought an xdrum dd 670, exclusively for acoustic sizes (the sounds weren't THAT bad, but nothing exceptional). Now I bought a roland td27 module. And I gotta say, millenium has got really good trigger sensitivity, and in some ways, the xdrum module kinda limitated the triggers. The only downside is the hardware: tried swapping the mesh heads with acoustic heads: you can get a good sound out of them, but the lugs are unstable. Overall, they are great for playing at home
Did you calibrate everything?
Very cool that you found a way to test Millenium!! Another great review Justin!!🤘🤘🥁
great overview as always, justin. you organize your information so well that people don't even have to think about it - but i appreciate it, brother
Hey Justin you're the man tell me where I can buy a drum module straight up by itself without having to purchase the whole kit cause I got racks out the a** I need a new module and just that nothing else where do I go sir
Ive had a Millenium MPS 1000 for about 6 months and I love it!
I've been using a MPS1000 module on my A2E drumkit for 2 years. Before that, I had used a TD17 for about 4 years (now sold), and I still own a backup TD11 with custom sounds (a killer) and a TD4 (which stays at friends' place for a "ready to setup" kit)
I am using the MPS1000 to play home with friends and small gigs (no large venues for a pure week-end band)
Pros
8 direct-out : incredible improvement of the basic stereo outputs. I mainly use 1 direct for kick, 1 for snare, 1 for HH and the rest of the kit goes to stereo output.
easy to set-up for different trigger types (RT-30HR, 2box ontrigger, internal triggers side or central)
reacts well in live environment, never freezed
Easy Xtalk cancellation process
so far, reliable
Cons
I use it on different kit configurations and each time I swap kit, I need to redo the trigger setting. A trigger bank would be a great improvement. For me, this is the main painpoint.
factory kits aren't so sexy. I ended with 3 or 4 customized kits to my liking that I am using constantly
sounds are not so great but nobody cares as long as the audience can ear a "poum-tchak" pattern (same for guitar sounds but that's another story)
volume is not consistent from one kit to another one. Hence the need to parameterize your owns having in mind kit changes in live environment.
the cable loom has proprietary assignment, not compatible with Roland ones.
ride cymbals are single jack. I didn't plan to, but ended buying one to get the full bell / bow / edge . I haven't yet spent time to check their internal wiring to build possible adapters
Overall, even if sounds are not as good as TD17's, I sold the Roland, kept the Millenium and saved money.
Forgive my approximate english, it's not my mother tongue
are you using the sounds from the module during your gigs or vst?
I used the module for a few gigs (small venues). Using a A2E kit with Roland triggers. I had setup’d 3 kits with similar volumes and used the direct out for kick, snare & HH. Went well.
To be honest, nobody noticed that it was not a “real” kit
One of the best things about your channel is how you unpack the corporate connections behind who makes what. Drum makers sell in different regions, with different brand names and prices and here in Australia its hard to find a lot of the very kits you review. Would love to see more of this exposed.
Did anyone catch GREYSON NEKRUTMAN in the background walking around at 7:22, he's at the 2024 NAMM SHOW, he's a phenomenal new up coming drummer. JOEDRUMS2112
Great info as always, thanks dude! 🤘
Awesome review man! I was thinking on buying this next and plug it with EZDrummer, might as well. Keep up the good work!
I 've had the MPS-1000 for a year, shipped from germany added about $250. I use it to trigger EZDrummer3 and it works great. So far I've replaced the two crash cymbals with Lemons, and my hi hat had completely split in half. The replacement hat is rarely in stock and when it is, they add $90 to ship it to the US. I contacted millenium about compatible brands for replacement and unfortunately, there is no other hat controller compatible with the module. I ended up breaking down and getting a goedrum 360 hat and an eDrumin4 trigger box as a very expensive replacement.
Thanks so much Justin for this review 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
I greatly appreciate the first impression. It is fantastic that you cover details such as cymbal compatibility.
I share your concern about durabilty. At this price point, I am willing to trial this or the Lemon kit and see if it's durable enough to have a long term relationship with them. I appreciate how these companies are putting in as much as they can into a competitive price point.
I have the millennium mps 850 and expanded it will lots of cymbals. Stock sounds arent the best but it included a free subscription to Addictive drums and with that it has no competition! It sounds and feel amaizing!
Thanks for info on that brand bud. Been wanting to hear your opinions on it 👍🏻
I have the Millenium 750 Pro, I use it in a small church and I love it. Your review was spot on. Some trigging issues and I use an acoustic hi hat because I can't get the hi hat to trigger properly. It's good for a stationary kit, perfect for new drummers or kids. I wouldn't use it for gigging, I don't know how it would hold up on the road. Thanks for your review!
literally bought this a few weeks ago and been searching for reviews. I was hoping so much that you had a review on this but you didn't 😔. Finally here it is! been watching your stuff for ages and I love everything that you post!! keep it up. I was also wondering if you could do in in-depth review on the PEARL MIMIC PRO. That would be awesome!!! cant wait to watch upcoming videos!!
@titanium_drummer Did you get the kit set up? Verdict?
@@paulcunningham5959 got the kit set up!! its a great one for beginners to pros if you cant have lots of sound from an acoustic kit.
Awesome infos, thank you so much! One important detail to watch out for: I checked the Alibaba offerings, and the HXM drum module there, while having the exact same control dashboard, has significantly different connection layout at the back: there are direct jack inputs for the triggers (so not even using the same cable snake as the Millennium), and there are only 2 AUX and 2 Master outputs (so no 8 direct ouptuts as on the Millennium) - therefore I assume Millennium is not just rebranding the HXMs but also gets custimised wiring and output connection setup for their modules.
Interesting, thanks for the info!
consistency is everything!
TY for the video! :)
Great video Justin, hopefully you'll be reviewing the new Alesis Strata Prime soon. Maybe a comparison video between that and the TD-27KV2 in the future since they are the same price.
I have had the millennium for nearly 2 years, and it's about right. Amazing looks, and great functionality variations, like Bluetooth, a lot of useful outputs and the faders are great! I like that as I also have a Roland td17 which sounds great but isn't as easy to manoeuvre.
But with regards to actual playibility, and sound quality, it's quite cheap. So I don't get such a great response to fast playing, and the sounds are not amazing.
So yes it's great for teaching my students, and I even did take it to some gigs, but wasn't as confident with how it came out compared to when I used the Roland.
I play an mps-1000 together with an mps-750X with both modules linked together and its a banger.
Cool how do you linke them together and is it possible to plug some more stuf on Milenium like more cymbals and those things or is it limited? Tnx
@@roidboy5516 I linked the modules together with their audio out/in connection. Both go into a small Native Instruments Audio interface and then to a laptop. Probably better to connect the signals on a small mixer. You can add as much cymbals as you want until you use all available connections. I still have 2 plugs unused so I could add more toms or cymbals. I dont use VSTs with the kit but in this case you would need to connect both modules via usb.
I owned a Millenium MPS-850 for some years, and I cannot recommend it. The module sounds are... serviceable, but ideally you'd want a VST. The pads feel okay and look nice, and the amount of features is awesome for the price. The problem is... in the 10" snare/tom pads, they used atrociously bad quality wires for their piezos, and they keep snapping in two while playing the drums.* If it's Medeli that makes those snare/tom pads, well... I guess I should have heeded the warnings.
*You'd think some vibrations through foam cones wouldn't be able to cut through hard plastic and metal, but somehow they do. I've re-soldered wires maybe 20 times, and they soon break again at or next to the solder spot. Eventually they would break so close to the piezo that it's no longer possible to reach with a solder iron; you have to remove the piezo from the plastic disk, which tears the foam that glues them in place. I have not yet found a way to re-attach or replace the piezo without losing 90% of pad sensitivity, and I have no idea why.
Before breaking out the soldering iron, I RMAed two pads and Thomann sent me replacements, but within months they broke as well. Now I'm the owner of 5 broken, unrepairable 10" snare/tom pads, and my warranty has expired.
Dude alesis just dropped a monster e kit, hope to see a video soon!
i have the 1000 its meger does what it says on the tin just need to play with it to get sounds right gigged it bands love the sound changed hi hats to lemon its superb now
I have an MPS-500 with the MPS-750 Expansion - Got it for Cheap Money and I Really like the Kit - with an Drum Plugin like EzDrummer, SSD5.5 etc its a Great Kit. - But I would Upgrade the Module in the longterm for a Used Roland TD9 or TD12 the Pads are Fully Compatible with it except that you need a New Ride for 3 Zones.
I like the speaker system add on
Since the set came out as a one up two down set I am very tempted to get me one.
Living in a shared living space would make it more playable then my now acoustic set with mesh and "silent cymbals"
Knowing that it's a cheap set I was looking more information/reviews unfortunately not a lot of people did/do reviews on the set, anyway it would be more then enough for my needs and doing.
The set looks like it's a nice place it there and don't move it around to much set though x)
But yeah for 999 euros it ships for free to my door from Germany to The Netherlands it's worth the try.
Further thanks for the video and keep it up.
Greets from the Netherlands
This could be a good starter kit for someone who wants acoustic sized shells and has the time to tweak the settings/use a vst.
Then along the years they could upgrade the snare trigger, the toms, the kick trigger. And then they buy a lemon cymbal. Later a used old but good roland module and upgrade the cymbals to ATV/Roland.
And they end up with an entirely different kit. Except the shells and hardware is still the same. And some extra money from old parts sold.
I spend way too much time looking for stuff in fb marketplace lol.
Yap! That was my way with the MPS-850. So I don't have wood shells. Na, ok, a Jobeky and a DIY 10 spoke snare.
I am kind of a stingy person, dude. If you now that Roland or ATV also using the 5 cents piezos. ... Why I should pay $500 dollar for a ride cymbal?
Maybe the unplugged noise is less noisy, etc.
I upgraded the modules with Audiofront eDRUMin10 and the sounds with Superior Drummer 3.
I have every cymbal with 3 zones. And I won't miss these. Damn, the Hihat with bell articulations ... nice.
I spent a lot of money for these drum libraries, but it's lika a passion.
Sounds perfect.
I recently switched to two Roland KD-7, because I was sick of the trampolin ATV 13" mesh pad. This actually feels better.
Any thought on that?
I still have the ATV pad here... but ... nah... I think I will keep the KD-7.
For the dynamics it can be adjusted in settings
I had the idea a few years ago for the speakers inside. I just didn't know what to do after the idea.
Hi Justin. Do you know of any videos that explain, step by step instructions on setting up the Alesis Multipad with a hi-hat controller pedal? I don't need every step of hi-hat range, just open and closed and I want it to work the same way a traditional hi-hat works. So, closed sound when I have the pedal depressed and open when it's not depressed. The manual doesn't seem to be hepling me in this area. :)
How does the kick drum handle a double bass kick. Is there enough service of the pad for two beaters to hit?
Hi, I recently bought Mps750x Pro, and I've thought how snare and toms would sound after changing electric heads to normal to see if there's any potencial in them, combining that with normal cymbals, there are no vids on yt about that.
All my videos are made with a Millennium 850xps kit in conjunction with GGD and Steven Slate 5.5 libraries and it triggers very well. Ez drummer 3 works flawlessly with it! It’s worth the money if you aren’t going to use the stock sounds.
Looking forward to a review of the Alesia Strata Prime.
It’s live now!
what cable should I use if I wanna connect the mps1000 module witha focusrite interface? thx :-)
This guy on CZcams, santagavemedrums, plays MPS1000 through Superior Drummer 3, just to hear how it sounds without the module sounds.
All songs has a free backing track also.
Can this drum be use with pearl mimic pro modules
If I dont want to use the mps1000 drum module ...can I get another module that works with it ? like a Roland KV27 module or others?? thx
Hey Justin was just wondering if either of these 2 modules have 5 point midi outputs?
What about using edrumin 10 and get rid of the sound module? Considering how precise you can be tweaking with the edrumin sofware, maybe thats the way to get a decent "cheap" kit.
How does the kit sound without a drum software plugin? Is it acceptable? Because im looking to get this kit
Great, informative video as usual, thank you! Would it be possible to fit the Yamaha DTX-Pro module to this kit, you reckon? Would it work? Or is it better to just buy the Yamaha DTX8K kit because of the sounds?
I can tell you from experience with using other cymbals on Yamaha modules the wiring is different especially on the ride. Just be cautious that you may not get choke or dual zones on cymbals.
Hey Justin great video. I’m just a basement for fun drummer who’s been playing for 10 months for 1 hr a day. Would it be crazy to buy this kit and add a used Roland TD-17 module? I know you mentioned hi-hat cable compatibility. I currently just have a Titan 50 with expansion pack.
Hello Justin, in my country there is an E drum from the Nokku brand which has the same shape as this Millennium or XM, do you think this is the same drum with a different name?
it's the same just different OEM brand
The drums seem good. It would be cool if they sold just a shell pack without the module and cymbals.
Or can EFnote use Pear mimic Pro?
The snare sound at the start is flat and super weird, is this a setting issue?
Please explane how to correct hi hat? Thnx
in Indonesia it's rebranded to Nokku XD 2000
Hey, i´m from germany and i own the MPS 1000 for over a year know. I play it regulary 3 to 5 times a week for 1 to 2 hours and it is a lot of fun because of the sizes an the okay sounds.
However i noticed some trigger problems with the snare a few weeks ago, but thomann immediately sent me a new snare. Apart from that, all the cymbals still work without any problems, but they don't have a big dynamic range. Another annoying thing is that the cymbal edges can't be triggered everywhere. it's especially annoying when the hihat turns because the rod in the hardware can't be tightened. In addition, the bell of the ride cymbal doesn't always react reliably. Otherwise, after more than a year I'm still very happy with the kit and in principle I can only recommend it, because even if the drum triggers were to stop working, you could always screw on an external trigger if necessary.
So yes, it´s a good set i would say.
Naah, no external trigger. The triggers are just some few cents piezos and easy to replace. You will find foam blocks and trigger cones to buy.
Maybe it was loose or something and since it's still within the manufacturer's warranty period... sure. Get the parts replaced.
If you sometime would like to upgrade, you could grab new internal trigger system, and the module for position sensing, for instance.
Woher bist du denn?!
@@eDrumsInANutshellJa das stimmt natürlich, ich wollte nur darauf hinaus, dass man mit den kesseln so oder so was anstellen kann, weil ich die von der hardware und allem auch so ganz nice finde.
@@dasbrunei5259 Yap. Also für das Geld definitiv. Side trigger für Toms sind ja vollkommen ok.
Die Dynamik könnte verloren gehen, weil die Piezos zu heiß sind. Also zu viel Spannung ins Modul schicken.
Wie isses mit deinen Löt Skills.. lass dir mal von jemandem so Spannungsteiler löten. Mit entsprechenden Buchsen. Könnte was bringen.
Wonder how it would work with a Roland module.
Long term reliability is still the most important thing to me though.
The hi hat controller probably wouldn't due to it being optical.
I was looking into buying the mps 1000, but after i was told that the shipping is almost 600 dollars, i changed my mind. xD
Yes Justin if you can read the comments I am a drummer of 4 years now looking for a drum kit for an affordable price that would last me a long time I have been thinking about getting a TD-17 KVX but value for money this kit the millennium MPS-1000 seems very good to be true the only thing I worry about is the durability of the drum kit in specific the cymbals because right now I have have an alesis surge kit and I have 2 cymbals that don’t trigger anymore and the rest of the the drum kit of the alesis surge still works so I’m not really worried about the durability of the pads really but Which kit is more value for the money and has decent size and has good durability Let me know when you get the chance I wish all the best to your day and I hope you respond to me one day!:)
Hi, you get what you pay . That doesn't need to be bad.
The triggers of your Alesis pads... Cabling issues? If you are out of the warranty period just open them up. Maybe the piezo is kind of loose or the cable needs to be fixed.
Sure, the Roland stuff is pro gear.
I bought 2 used KD-7 which are build like tanks, working, even being 6/8 years old.
Yes I would like the get the MPS-1000 but I also worry about stage presence and also the size and functionality of the drum kit if it triggers properly than I will be totally okay with the MPS-1000 but size does matter to me because I’m 6”2 and Also one last thing is if I get a warranty for the kit than I could probably use it for years and if I use a bass drum patch and clean my kit than I would think the MPS-1000 is right for me just want to get your opinion on it:)
@@PhoenixHull18Ahhh, ok. On stage, yeah, the full sized kit looks cool. But ... imagine ... one of the pro things of ekits where the portability.
I played some gigs actually with Spirit Corpse (still available on .. and a a drummer you are always, aaaalwaaaays f*%&ed ...
I saw a speed metal band with a tiny ekit.
Man, this guy was crazy. So damn fast.
Anyway. Nowadays...
Yes I’m think I am settling for the TD-17Kvx or joebeky drums because I do care about the size of the drums but since the TD-17kvx is the size of the kit I have now than I think I’m going to get the Roland kit especially after one factor which is durability and Roland is known for have life time lasting drums and when I think about size I think your right about the portability of the drums because I like to cover songs for venues and stuff like that:) Anyways thank you for responding to my response:) wish all the best to your career in music and also drums of course!!
@PhoenixHull18 Ha, my rock star career is ... over ... if there was any. A few gigs actually, but then , you now... the guitarists finished their study, and then family, house , job. I am 43, dude. When the kids are getting older, I think I could reach out for a band or something...
Anyway, I am deeper in music than ever, from the theoretical POV and mixing. As a drummer I will try to compose a few songs with my new modes and circle of fifth knowledge. :)
All the best wishes for you, too!
Hello everyone, I am going to buy this MPS 1000, but I want to use this drum kit with Roland TD 12 module. Is anyone of you using this drum kit with Roland module ?
I own the MPS-850. For my purpose, it serves me well, although it defenitely isn't without flaws.
I was considering replacing the module of my mps-850 with the mps-1000 module, because of the individual outputs and the Bluetooth connectivity. Does anyone know if the mps-1000 module will be compatible with the mps-850 kit?
Actually tried it and it worked. Use the multi-cable from the 1000 to connect the 850s pads with the new module. You’ll need 2 additional stereo cables to connect the second crash cymbal and the fourth tom. PS the sent Midi-notes differ a little between the modules (if you play with DAW)
@@janoschmidt6764 Thank you so much for the info!
Don't normally comment my like number, but I'm the 65th like lol
Why aren't these drums sold in America by Guitar Center or Amazon or somebody local? If there is a problem, you have to deal with an overseas German company? Thanks
How do I find the 4-tom configuration?
You have to ask them for it specifically when you order. Thomann sell them separately and if you're ordering from HXM directly just ask them. Mine was like $40 extra for the 16" floor tom.
@@austinpalmer8850 thank you very much
I have millenium mps 1000 for almost a year now so I thought I would tell you something about my experience.
At first the drums wont feel as good as u may expect from to looks of it, but if u put some time into the module (setting up sensitivity of the pads and stuff) it will gradualy get better.
Since I play metal I kinda had problems with the sound of the pats but when u really go thru each of 200 sounds for each pad I think u'll defenetly find the one u want. The predefined kits arent something to be too excited about.
I see a lot of people complain about the hihat and I have to say that at the begining I had those issues as well but somehow I managed to fix them. ( I think I just didnt set it up very well when I bought it)
What really bothers me is the thing that happened woth my tom-toms. Cuz when I hit them the sound of the head and the rimshot sound at the same time althought i only hit the head. But I fixed that with muting the rims since I dont really use the rims on toms.
The doublebass is no issue for me. Again at the begining it was but since there are two triggers so I just switched to the bigger one and it works fine.
So I would defenetly buy this drumset again if I had choose one for the same price, just be ready u will have to set up a lot of things if u want to get the maximum out of it.
You could easily buy this, get the TD50X upgrade with the digital hihats/snare/ride.And just have yourself a go if a great kit for half the price of the roland one
I am thinking about the unsatisfying dynamic range.
What about your soldering skills?
Did someone of you try to put voltage devider behind the piezo.
If these are too hot for the module, you won't get the lower velocities.
This would be ridiculous because the engineer should know what fits together electronically.
But as Justin mentioned.... low price pressure and.... ahhh, this will work!
So I would solder 2 10k Ohms resistors configured as voltage divider into a TRS socket connected to a TRS jack. Like an extension.
I could provide a photo if you like...
Did you ever do this? I don't have a set my hobby is more thinking about buying a kit lol.
@atomiccelery6798 Sure. I got a very hot Jobeky snare pad. And.... huh ... the input stages of the early eDrumIn modules were quite sensitive. I used the method above. On the snare, one has to be careful because high resistance values will deform the transients. Your positional sensing will not work as well as without resistors.
So that means... Order extra parts lol.
Great video! I’d like to add that the kit works great with the eDrumin 10, with the exception of the hi hat controller. I didn’t try for very long, but just to throw that out there.
Also you just made me realize that the ride is a one cable ride. Switched the setting on the eDrumin and now I have all four zones! Thanks!
I love my eDRUMins. Damn! Rob is a genius.
I made a DIY Hall sensor hihat controller. What are your skills in terms of soldering?
That works like hell.
Umm ... Ride ... four zones? Three?!
@@eDrumsInANutshellMeant to say three lol. Honestly would prefer two cables since it’s not super accurate.
Personally i would call them companies rather than factories since they design the products instead of just manufacturing them (and they also sell them with their own brand)
Factory to me would be something like foxconn that companies like apple use to manufacture their own designs, so foxconn just makes the products instead of designing them.
I have the millenium mps 750 x pro. Chose this instead of the 1000 because of the smaller size kick drum. Should have went for the 1000 because the module is really cheap, no colour or config option, and only 1 crash cymbal.
Aurzart az ed2000 this also sem
EZ drummer and the MPS 1000... sounds like a killer combo. The module sounds arent great, but who cares, EZ drummer. If things break, then replace with a quality component at that steal of a price. Expect that you might need to change out a trigger, etc.
The mps 1000 may be a decent set, but there are other e-kits in the USA that are just as good or better. The reason I would not buy it is that it is a good price as is, but once you add the overseas fees, shipping and taxes make this set, in my opinion, not worth buying as you can get a better brand set for around the same overall cost or less and even a much better set is not much more expensive. I feel the downsides of the Millennium MPS 1000 outweigh the positives. If you do live in Europe, I would recommend the kit, but outside Europe, I would not buy the set as there are better ones with available parts for not much more money.
An endorsement would be great though...... I agree... shipping,etc.. would make it equivalent to purchasing a great set in country..🤔
Owwwww. Felt kick drum beater. No no No!!
I live in Sweden so I can by Millenium cheap. But I think its a budget toy set. I wouldnt recommend it.
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That's not a 1:1 millennium mps 1000. I got mps 1000 and the hi hat is 13" not 14", and the ride has a 2 cable configuration not a single cable solution.
Edit: messed things up it's just one cable for the right for me as well
my mps 1000 hihat is 13´ too, but my ride has only one cable...wyld
@@dasbrunei5259 wait just double checked, YOURE RIGHT ITS ONE. I was so sure it was two, do t know what happened in brain there🤔
Man you can tell within 15 seconds the dynamics on this thing are really lacking. It’s like an alesis nitro with slightly better sounds dressed up in bigger shells.
It could just need calibrating tho
The china push from Alibaba really doesn't interest me. I tried some cheap Chinese cymbals. It was no Roland side by side and never will be. If you want a kit that really has dynamics save up some money. Going from Alesis to a VAD kit was like a whole different beast. My playing is MUCH better now. Oh... Also when you order from Alibaba it litter comes from a slow boat from China. Be ready to wait, wait and wait.
Buy cheap, buy twice is here to stay.
Sounds very digital.