Old School Drafting
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- www.theToolandD... As I was sorting through some old videos on my camera, I found this one. This was never meant to be an instructional video, more of a history lesson on how we used to do things in the trade. I have to say it was a lot more time consuming than I had remembered.
I fear the backs of our heads look quite similar. In 1975 I started with a parallel rule with 6030 and 45 triangles. Then the drafting machine, what you're using, came along in my junior year, what an innovation! I loved seeing you use the eraser shield to clean up the linesI I taught myself Auto-cad after buying the book and spent the next year stationed in South Korea learning how it worked. I never would have succeeded if I didn't have the basic knowledge of drafting. Thanks Phil for bringing back some great memories. I still draw out parts the same way but now I'm playing with CNC all for a hobby. Could go on forever but if you read this and don't know what an extension line is you can't appreciate what you see him doing.
Much appreciated video. Current architecture student here to report a growing interest in those skilled in the art. When I do assignments I tell my professors “If you want I can easily pop out one of those digital drawings but I’d rather submit a real one.” Almost without fail I hear the word “beautiful” in reference to my simple mechanical drawings. People feel something.
Great!! I was feeling a bit emotional looking at this. I used to worked in advanced engine d.o. of an auto company, during the pencil to CAD transition. I was a young tube-jockey and for simple parts like this, the old pencil guys were way faster than us. For the full authentic effect , we’d need cloud of cigarette smoke drifting across the d.o. ... used to drive me nuts!
Glad to see a true "mechanical drawing" being made (as you said, an edited-down, shortened version) and posted on CZcams. I still have all of my drafting equipment, from ruling pens & Rapidographs, all of my "templates" for mechanical details, circles, elipses, etc., all of the various sizes of triangles & an adjustable triangle I also still have a ~12-inch proportional divider (amazingly accutate even when scaling drawings that had been photographed in smal section and put put onto aperture cards, then I printed them out, cut & taped them back together -- I could still "scale" these drawings to within ~0.015-inches (when verified against dimensioned portions of the drawings). And, of course, my mix of lead holders and multiple boxes of different "hardnesses" of lead and the pads of sandpaper & lead pointers for "pencil" drawings -- of course, I've still got an electric eraser, but the eraser tself petrified -- maybe one of today's "white" erasers will fit? I still use my 0.3mm & 0.9mm HB mechanical pencils every day since they don't go dull before you can finish a long line like the lead holders can, even when "twirling" the lead holder as you draw. Of course, my workplace (showing ignorance as usual) got rid of all of the big drawing tables with the type of drafting machines like you show. I'm left with a small, portable board with a parallel rule & my triangles, et al..
The biggest problem about when schools quit teaching "mechanical drafting," they simply taught how to use whatever CAD software package they had access to at the time, but quit teaching how to make proper drawing layouts (that's the same whether you draw with a pen &/or pencil or use CAD. One of my "young" (back in the mid-'80s) coworkers had one of the nicest, calmest Manufacturing Planners & Estimators at work walk nearly half a mile from his portion of the plant to where we were to jump down the guy's throat about putting (say) items 1-3 on page 1, items 1-4 on page 2, items 1-5 on page 3, et al., because he simply did not understand that you never duplicated an item number on a multiple page drawing -- separate items are numbered sequentially throughout the entire drawing. A hard (& embarassing) lesson for him. Then later, he made the mistake of sending a mechanical tooling drawing (that he didn't have one of us check first) to our Tool & Die Shop with the following tolerances:
.X ±0.1
.XX ±0.10
.XXX ±0.100
;P He became the laughing stock of the Tool & Die Shop after that one. All because he'd only been taught how to use some version of CAD software, not how to make a proper drawing.
It's all fun and games until the CAD genious adds 5 toleranced dimensions to one another while having an overall length tolerance smaller than each of the included dimensions, making it impossible to hit all of them when the client really asks for 2 small steps to be machined from each side of a part of a certain length.
@@Sketch1994 Yeah, when the Industrial Engineers got their first CADD system (that's what they were called back then), they didn't know enough to change the default tolerances which were 5-6 decimal places (working in inches). Of course, they were laying out office furniture or similar, so those tolerances didn't go over very well with the Riggers tasked with placing everything in accordance with the prints. LOL! ;)
I so enjoyed using my tee sq and board. Took drafting for three years in h.s. '65-'68. I enjoyed drafting some much, I used to do drafting in the basement, all by myself. If you don't count the boiler over on the other side of the basement. Still have the board etc. Kept all my drwgs too. I had one class of sketching as I recall. I have expanded my use of that one class. Used sketching when making solar control boards for a co. Needed 2,000 boards. It would have taken too long to use a board & tee sq etc.
So, sketching came to my rescue. I did not scale my sketches. The part dime's was all that was needed. I used dimension, extension lines like in a "real drwg". Very satisfying hand drawing with tools/without.
Great vid & music, ty.
what stuff did you draft?
Wonderful video that brings back great memories of doing this type of drafting. I still have a stack of circle and ellipse templates. While in college I worked in an old machine shop and we found many rolled-up drawings done with ink on drafting linen. They wanted to throw them out and they gave them to me. I am glad I kept them. The drafting linen drawings are a work of art and many have pencil notations for correcting a dimension.
Good stuff. I have a lot of my old equipment in a box in my home office. Electric eraser, electric pencil sharpener and a manual one, scales, etc. I always preferred a parallel bar over a drafting machine however.
I remember in drafting class i forgot my pencil and had to use a pen, when my teacher asked what will I do when I make a mistake I replied " I don't make mistakes"
That's right... with drafting head... NO MISTAKES.
Nostalgia. Of High School Drafting classes. Never dreamed that it would change as much as it has since then. I can't remember the last time I drew up a plan that way. In the early to mid 90's I purchased a Military/Educational version of Cadkey. I'm still using it, (even though I have to use a DOS emulator to do so) and still learning how to use it and finding out what it can do.
Probably the best thing for now, as I don't have a place to put a drafting station. The birdseye maple drafting board I made in wood shop still exists, but it's been re-jointed and sanded clean and is now used for making bread. I still think the basics of the "old way" should be taught, however. There are still some places where you can't take a computer. Not practically, anyway.
CAD drawings all look “generic”. A hand drawn “mechanical drawing” has the soul of it’s maker for all to see. Love them
Excellent!!! CAD took away the romance in drafting!! excellent music. Donald does not know anything about music apparently. LOL.
Let's give Donald a break. He obviously is not a big fan of a Charlie Brown Christmas...as Vince Guaraldi wrote all of the music for it. ;)
I HAVE MY DRAFTING ARM IN THE GARAGE. IT'S HANGING ON SOME PEG BOARD. 1 DAY 15 YRS AGO I DECIDED TO PUT A LARGE SHELF JUST ABOVE THE PEG BOARD AND SO IT STILL SITS THERE. MY DRAFTING ARM I CAN'T GET IT OUT OF THERE WITHOUT TAKING DOWN THE SHELF.. NO LONGER NEEDED BEEN A CAD GUY EVER SINCE..AND WE ALL KNOW THERE"S NO COMPARISON..
Great video. I can't imagine a better soundtrack to it either. Old school cool all the way!
I don't know what I liked better. The drawing or the jazz.
Very cool, thanks for taking the time to make this.
Aerospace engineer. The drafting machine was the only way I ever produced anything that could be called art. But some of my drawings were works of art. CAD is wonderful, but it doesn't produce art.
Vemco, Kern, Alteneder-still being used in this shop, and giving good service. Nice video!
As a current architecture student who was taught mechanical drafting this is beyond satisfying. Thank you
So satisfying to watch
Thank God for SolidWorks.
It was hard, even harder to edit later on.
Great presentation.
J.
Batavia graduate in 1989..board designing is a lost art. I still have all my tools and D size mylar sheets that are blank...
Love old school drafting, learned the trade in the 70’s. Btw, you may also like Bill Evans for background music as well. Just found your channel! Great video! Thanks!
I REMEMBER THOSE DAYS. FRENCH CURVES PRINTS 10' LONG MYLAR.. GOOD TIMES LEARNED A TON.
I want to learn using french curves. Here in Venezuela there is courses just for lady confection garments, no for painting or geometric drawing.
Reminds me that my drafting table is gathering dust these days... AutoCAD is great for 2-D stuff, Inventor is adequate for 3-D.
Can't afford a personal seat of Solidworks, let alone ProE (or whatever they are calling it these days)...
Lock at Fusion 360. Faster and easier than Solidworks and it's free for hobbists.
dont go for Fusion 360 or Sketchup. They lock in your data. And they can discontinue the free hobbist license any time. Check out FreeCad (freecadweb.org). It is completely open source and free as in speech and as in beer. There is no data lock in and no change in licensing since you can download the source code. And it is a full 3D CAD with animations, animated exploded views, CAM and what not. And there are many add-in modules available for special applications and standard parts catalogs and and and...all for free. And in youtube there are countless tutorials teaching how to use it.
$1400 a year for my personal seat.
The good old days glad they are gone!
I learned basic drafting in high school, all I use today when I need more then a rough dimension or 2
Why are Tool & Die Makers paid so low????????????? ATTENTION Tool & Die Guy
1997; the last year I did manual drafting similar above.
Very interesting...
What do you call that Tool?
True story
Very good practice but EXCELLENT music...!
You cheated. You used a mechanical pencil. True old school would have been a lead holder and a pencil pointer. They don't make the metal pointers any more, just cheap plastic. This illustrates the difference between a draftsman and a CAD "operator". Thanks for the post.
And then there was "inking a drawing in"!
Real talent unlike cad