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  • By overwhelming demand, we bring you a 10 Minute Talk on the ol’ standby - the .270 Winchester… How have we not done this one yet?? Jimmy and Mark chat with Mr. Ryan Muckenhirn all about what is certainly one of America’s most classic deer cartridges. We address where it came from, what made it so special to begin with and what its future might be - as the round seems to be gaining popularity in the long range community with the development of new, high-stepping projectiles and loadings!
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  • @chuckokelley2448
    @chuckokelley2448 Před rokem +81

    My favorite Jack O'Connor quote
    A well placed 130 grain 270 bullet will end most ballistic arguments

  • @glennrcampbell1193
    @glennrcampbell1193 Před 3 lety +215

    Hello everyone! I just love this .270 Winchester debate here. Here's my two cents worth. Over a 60 year period of time, since age nine, I've used the .270 Win. A Yukon hunt gave me a moose , grizzly, and a caribou. The grizzly and moose went down with one 130 gr Nosler partition. The caribou needed two shots as the first was not placed well. Here in the good ol' U.S. of A in Tennessee the 130 flat base Hornady spitzer at 3100 fps killed over 80 whitetails. The rifle, a Win. 70 model a post 64 model, was borrowed by buddies who didn't have a rifle and wanted to hunt. Most of those deer, about 70, were killed by buddies. All of us noticed the deer just went down or 25 yards at the most. In Africa, I used a 140 grain Barnes TSX at 3150 fps...the African .270 has a 26" barrel and gives approximately 7mm Rem Mag velocities. The animals crumpled with good shot placement. Poor shot placement by other hunters yielded poor killing power with some very large calibers...usually .300 mags up to .416 caliber. My .270 trumped the the big bores with good bullet placement. Many animals ran for very long distances and we were in for a very long tracking due to poorly placed large caliber bullets. I shot 13 animals on two hunts and all were one shot kills EXCEPT a big Water Buk. He was tracked for about 1/4 mile and a second shot to the base of the skull finished him. I used 9,3 x 62 mm Mauser to take my cape buffalo with a 286 gr Barnes TSX. One shot through the top of the heart and a frantic run for forty five of my long paces. He just went down in mid stride and never moved one time. Stone cold dead. On my hunts, on several occasions, I have experienced proper bullet placement and poor bullet placement. The caliber doesn't matter if you poorly place the bullet. Bullet placement is most likely 90% of killing power as described by the late Finn AAgaard, one of our most experienced and knowledgeable gun writers. Foot pounds and other variables are included in the remaining 10% of killing power He was a Kenyan and a professional African hunter. I agree with Finn. All of this stuff about large calibers being safer and deadlier with marginal hits is nonsense. You Either hit it in the right place or you don't.
    I witnessed this and screwed up on my first shot on the water buk(correct spelling) and caribou that left me with with some very valuable memories from two hunts in my lifetime. Let's hit the nail on the head here. Finn Aagaard told us he had seen more animals killed with just one shot in Africa by .270 Winchester rifles than any other caliber. The reason? Low ACCEPTABLE RECOIL which enabled the hunter to precisely place the shot. Plus a FAST, FLAT TRAJECTORY with great energy and penetration. Finn was always amazed by the 130 .270's ability to quickly kill animals up to and including HUGE ELAND weighing up to 2,500 pounds. That's 1,000 lbs. heaver than a 1,500 lb. Yukon Moose that I shot. Jack O'Connor often told stories of Bob Lee, a New Yorker that had shot several lions(one shot each) with a 150 gr. Nosler Partitions. Our darling .270 Win is very capable. Just ask all of the huge Alaska coastal brown bears and their smaller interior grizzly bears killed by .270 Wins. I love my memories of the .270 and witnessing just how wicked and efficient it can be in the field. Glenn

    • @mcbridecreek
      @mcbridecreek Před 3 lety +8

      Well said Glenn!

    • @stephenhair5501
      @stephenhair5501 Před 3 lety +8

      Glenn, truer words of wisdom than I've ever seen. My first rifle and it's still my all time favorite is my .270 Mauser action. So many great qualities in this cartridge. Every hunter and especially new shooters, looking to get into the hunting sport, should read your above paragraphs. A lot of practical knowledge, not just about the .270, but in taking game in general. I for one appreciate what you have penned here. Thank you.

    • @JS-uy8wc
      @JS-uy8wc Před 3 lety +4

      Extremely well written and well documented. Thank you.

    • @ThemantleofElijah
      @ThemantleofElijah Před 3 lety +7

      These awesome hunting descriptions with the 270 is pure awesomeness and I love it cuz it’s first hand experience with the round and to be honest I don’t think I’ve ever read such detailed information about other rounds, honest, and direct. Tomorrow I’m going to probably buy myself a 270 at a gun show either a Winchester model 70 or a Remington 700. Thanks for the time

    • @tomdavis3038
      @tomdavis3038 Před 3 lety +10

      Two words in this long drawn out story (no offense intended.)
      SHOT PLACEMENT
      Enough said
      Cheers

  • @skeeterhawk1953
    @skeeterhawk1953 Před 11 měsíci +22

    With the 30-06 Springfield or 270 Winchester you just can’t go wrong, that’s just a fact 👍😁

  • @MrTNBassmaster
    @MrTNBassmaster Před 3 lety +23

    The 270 winchester is the all time greatest caliber ever invented . Calibers come and go , the 270 win still knocking them animals down.

    • @anthonykaiser974
      @anthonykaiser974 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Except it's a cartridge, not a caliber. .277 is the caliber. .30 is a caliber. .244 is a caliber. .270 Winchester is a cartridge.

  • @daveconrad9698
    @daveconrad9698 Před 2 lety +45

    I have had my grandfathers 270 for many years and have not shot it once. After his passing, it was a keepsake that lived on the wall. Seeing this vid reminded me of his love for that gun.
    I think I have decided to do some range work and get some loads together to maybe go knock down a buck for grandpa.

    • @808fishman8
      @808fishman8 Před rokem +2

      clean it well !

    • @user-eg8hb8xt3j
      @user-eg8hb8xt3j Před 10 měsíci +2

      Use it ! I’m sure the old fella would would want it that way

  • @amosrademeyer2550
    @amosrademeyer2550 Před 3 lety +65

    When you get to the hunting field, the 270 just do the job. That is probably the reason why people tends to forget about it. Hunters like to fidle with guns, and the 270 don't ask for a lot of fidling 👍🏻

    • @kennyfoco4302
      @kennyfoco4302 Před 2 lety +9

      This is the most underrated comment ever. Kudos.

  • @72RR446
    @72RR446 Před 3 lety +218

    The chances of me trading my M70 .270 for a 6.5 Creedmoor ... 0

    • @MrJtin69
      @MrJtin69 Před 3 lety +5

      What about a 257 weatherby mag with a 220 swift thrown in

    • @toddjohnson271
      @toddjohnson271 Před 2 lety

      lol

    • @nmelkhunter1
      @nmelkhunter1 Před rokem

      You obviously have an IQ approaching 160. Have a very Merry Christmas!

    • @reddawng43x91
      @reddawng43x91 Před rokem +5

      The chance of me trading my Abolt 270 for 3 creedmores …0

    • @reddawng43x91
      @reddawng43x91 Před rokem

      @@MrJtin69depends the gun it’s in

  • @mbw65
    @mbw65 Před 3 lety +65

    Been shooting .270 since college, over 55 years. Doesn't get any better! O'Connor follower as well!

  • @tim1942
    @tim1942 Před 3 lety +184

    Always loved 270 win , never drunk the creedmoor koolaid lol

    • @nmelkhunter1
      @nmelkhunter1 Před 3 lety +17

      Smart man. No, very smart man.

    • @chasehunt6497
      @chasehunt6497 Před 3 lety +2

      What’s wrong with creed? Genuinely curious

    • @tim1942
      @tim1942 Před 3 lety +17

      @@chasehunt6497 never said anything is wrong with it but it’s not the fix all round everybody wants it to be

    • @chasehunt6497
      @chasehunt6497 Před 3 lety +9

      @@tim1942 agree. Do 99% of hunting with 270 myself. I do think the 6.5 has some science going it’s way that lets it punch above weight class. Mainly in sec. density.

    • @tim1942
      @tim1942 Před 3 lety +8

      @@chasehunt6497 do a google search on 6.5 vs 270 and just the headings ,sexy creedmoor and boring old 270 but no one talks of energy delivered just bc when most of them could hit a 400 yd target to save there life but just my opinion

  • @Bouncing22
    @Bouncing22 Před 3 lety +38

    .270 is amazing. I load up 129gr Barnes LRX at just around 3200 FPS. Barnes seem to shoot better going fast! this is an absolute elk killer!

    • @nathanielwowchuk6880
      @nathanielwowchuk6880 Před 2 lety +1

      Mind if i ask what powder what barrel length?

    • @ParadiseInHawaii0com
      @ParadiseInHawaii0com Před 2 lety

      WydahomeBoy,
      Which Powder?
      Are you using MagPro?
      or Are you using Superformance?
      or Are you using H1000?

  • @mikehobbs7421
    @mikehobbs7421 Před rokem +8

    Here in southern Ontario Canada the .270win is king due to caliber restrictions during different hunting seasons. I once owned a savage 111 in .270win and it shot lights out right out of the box. I sold it like an idiot to further other firearms interests. But just recently I purchased a tikka t3x lite stainless in .270win and it shoots even better and I’m so glad I bought it! I have a very well rounded hunting firearms collection. But if I could only keep 3 of them it would be my 300win mag, .270win and 12gauge pump action. Just my 2 cents. Cheers from Canada eh 🍻🇨🇦🤘

  • @Me2Lancer
    @Me2Lancer Před 3 lety +215

    Love the question, "Is the 270 obsolete?" Funny, the 270 blows away the best 6.5 Creedmoor!

    • @brackishbass
      @brackishbass Před 3 lety +16

      Whats crazy is not many know it but the 270 out does the 6.5 cm. The only argument is the 270 recoil is much heavier than the 6.5 cm. (They just talked about it as I'm typing)

    • @Me2Lancer
      @Me2Lancer Před 3 lety +15

      @@brackishbass It's insane for people to take pot shots at the 270 while praising the 6.5 Creedmoor. Recoil comes with the increased performance.

    • @mcgovernoutdoors33
      @mcgovernoutdoors33 Před 3 lety +24

      270 will always win in my eyes!!!

    • @keiththompson7392
      @keiththompson7392 Před 3 lety +29

      @@brackishbass the 6.5 comes with a skirt.

    • @mik55tv22
      @mik55tv22 Před 3 lety +6

      @@keiththompson7392 such a dumb thing to say just because its not your round of choice doesn't mean we all have to pick what u like

  • @mulder4528
    @mulder4528 Před 3 lety +53

    270 awesome and timeless. Great to still hear people talk of O’Connor. In the 70s I waited patiently every month to read what he may have to say In Petersens Hunting. His stories of sheep hunting were fantastic

  • @frankivey960
    @frankivey960 Před 3 lety +14

    Regarding long range and the 270 Win. I've shot my Remington Sendero 270 Win to 1000 yards with Sierra MatchKing 135 grain loads. After a shooting session on steel from 200 to 1000 yards a buddy of mine who is in the bullet making business and was spotting me said he wouldn't want me shooting at him at 1000 yards.
    I have three 270 rifles in my safe. Love them all.

  • @samhunt9380
    @samhunt9380 Před 2 lety +9

    Been a long time user. Bought my first Sako in .270 in 1963 as a professional deer culler in New Zealand. Today, much older I still use a .270. The funny thing is, the target species never know the difference between that and one of these fancy new cartridges....

    • @raythompson894
      @raythompson894 Před rokem +3

      Giday Sam, was waiting for someone to make a great comment.
      A good keen man should know the truth. Been using. 270 for 45 years, never felt the need to change a winning formula. Still filling the freezer and that's all that matters.
      Kia Ora mate.

  • @victorkeith12
    @victorkeith12 Před 2 lety +7

    My father used to ask me for my 270 every time we hunted mule deer. He loved my Thompson Center 270. He said that rifle is a good all around hunting gun. I couldn’t agree more. I’m going to miss hunting with him and my older brother. We lost both of them to Covid-19.

    • @VortexNation
      @VortexNation  Před 2 lety +4

      We're sorry for your loss, Victor. We hope those fond memories of hunting together stay with you always.

    • @mr.mr.3301
      @mr.mr.3301 Před 2 lety +2

      So sorry to hear. Covid has taken so many loved ones.

  • @couespursuit7350
    @couespursuit7350 Před 3 lety +19

    My uncle was a student of Jack O'Conner's. Jack taught English and Journalism at UofA and my Uncle had him as a Professor.

  • @mcbridecreek
    @mcbridecreek Před 3 lety +11

    When they talk of O’Connor being a gun writer, they should say he was a hunter/rifleman first, then a gun writer. The .270 got his love because he understood that it was a great caliber; especially in a pre-1964 Winchester model 70!

  • @johnmorales4501
    @johnmorales4501 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I'm 77 and have hunted with a 270 since I was 16. I've harvested elk, mule and white tail deer, peccories and other Az big game. Very seldom had to hit an animal more than once to drop it. Shot at distances of up to 400 yards with great success. Love the 270!!!

  • @spockspock
    @spockspock Před 3 lety +44

    .270, 25-06, .243, 30-06, .308, lots of non magnum fun.

  • @TV-so2ej
    @TV-so2ej Před 8 měsíci +2

    .270 Baby! Never failed me yet. Only the shooter can fail with this caliber, never the rifle or the load. A great hunting rifle.

  • @jasoncarr9375
    @jasoncarr9375 Před 3 lety +30

    Almost a 100 years old and just getting started. New long range bullets will give it the greatest come back ever. Great show guys; keep them coming !

    • @danietkissenle
      @danietkissenle Před 3 lety

      i bet none of the longer bullets will be loaded by the main ammo manufactures en lue of the 6.8 western

    • @sethdoane5295
      @sethdoane5295 Před 2 lety

      @@danietkissenle it takes a lot of work to shoot them but I built a 270 for the 170 grain Berger eol it’s shoots 3140 FPS with a g1 of .706 with h1000. hoping to bring it up to 3300 with some new powder I acquired but I’ll slow it back down to just over 3000 for throat life .

    • @danietkissenle
      @danietkissenle Před 2 lety

      @@sethdoane5295 that's badass

    • @keithprinn720
      @keithprinn720 Před 11 měsíci

      heavier bullets in right construction and fast twist carbon barrel yes please ibn a classic style bolt action with timber stock

  • @zayacz123
    @zayacz123 Před 3 lety +34

    I have most of the books Jack O’Connor wrote. He was quite a character.

  • @bigtree3089
    @bigtree3089 Před 3 lety +9

    I have been shooting 270 for 20+ years and never let me down. I only hunt whitetails. Handload 150gr bullets at 2800 .5" group at 100yds works for me. I have taken plenty of deer with that combo

  • @andrewmccann7572
    @andrewmccann7572 Před 3 lety +53

    Can’t believe this took so long! Love my .270!

  • @ravenreader4772
    @ravenreader4772 Před 3 lety +16

    Awesome! Love the 270.
    .338-06 Next please!
    Its a perfect companion for the .270 Win.

  • @Lemur70
    @Lemur70 Před rokem +2

    Just watched this episode on .270. Nice conversation. I have both. 270win and 6.5 creedmoor. My 270 is a Browning blr with a vortex 4-16x42 diamondback scope. Shot deer with both .270 and 6.5. I have to say that with exception of stiff trigger I like the .270 much more. Far more comfortable for me. I get .5" groups all day long with this gun at 100yd and 1" @ 200yd using hornady 130gn sst. Just wish the sst held together a little better. Great show guys, keep it up.

  • @tomhairston4980
    @tomhairston4980 Před 11 měsíci +3

    270, if it was good enough for Jack O'Conner, it's good enough for me...been shooting one for most of my hunting career and have no complaints..it ALWAYS does the job...my pre '64 model 70 and my Rem. 700 will always be in my gun safe!!

  • @wlew3499
    @wlew3499 Před 3 lety +2

    Jack O'Connor was fascinated with the idea of necking down the 30-06 to the 270. He convinced gun maker, Al Biesen(in Spokane WA) to produce 4 proto-types. O'Connor took these to Wyo for field testing. After finishing, he left one of the rifles with my father. I still have that 270.

  • @crackerbobfromgreencovespg6144

    10 minutes? I could talk for 10 months about the 270! Yeah I’m a fan boy! Best damn deer rifle I have ever owned. I have an old Winchester model 70, iron sights and this thing has taken oh my gosh between 40 and 50 deer in my lifetime. I purchased it used in 1975 and no telling how many deer it had taken already. My grandson will inherit this rifle and I hope he never gets rid of it because if it could talk, it would be welcome at any campfire

  • @fbiz01
    @fbiz01 Před 3 lety +3

    My .270 was born the same year I was. Mouser action made in Belgium in 1949 on a JC Higgins model 50 put together by Mossberg. I bought it used when I was 16 thanks to Jack O'Connor love. It's been checkered and a padded rubber shoulder pad replaced the metal plate that used to bruise my young shoulder. It kicks as hard as my .300 Win Mag because of it's light weight. It outshoots my Browning X Bolt .270 and is a rare .65 MOA rifle in my collection of good shooting rifles. It is retired with 20 boxes of my handloads to be handed down to the next generation so it can be enjoyed some more.

  • @Noone765
    @Noone765 Před 3 lety +12

    The 270 is a better rifle than most current rifles. I’ve tried them all and I’ll keep my 270. I can hunt elk with my 270 but a 6.5 won’t work in a 400 yard shot.

  • @dakotatalteco
    @dakotatalteco Před rokem +5

    .270 is my first rifle and I still use it in all my hunts till this day. Fantastic cartridge

  • @edmaxwell148
    @edmaxwell148 Před 3 lety +10

    It has taken many years and many successful hunts for me to realize how well the 270 winchester works for my hunting purposes. Just bought a Bergara B14 ridge in 270. Interesting conversation at the end of the pod cast - It does seem a little strange to buy a modern hunting rifle chambered for a 100 year old cartridge.

  • @garretdozier9596
    @garretdozier9596 Před 3 lety +8

    I have shot .270 for almost 30 years, will til the day I pass. Currently shoot ballistic silvertip. Hasn't failed yet. 1 shot and the harvest is down. Great video guys, GOD Bless you all.

  • @54Rocketeer
    @54Rocketeer Před rokem +5

    The .270 is a great cartridge, in every sense of the word!

  • @robinj.9329
    @robinj.9329 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Jack was famous for using not just the .270, but the 7mm Mauser, the .30-06 and the 416 Rigby.
    Read a few of his books!
    Always with Elk, Moose, large mean Bears 🐻 bullet placement is KEY !
    If you feel you can't put that animal down with one shot?
    DON'T SHOOT !
    I offer this just as my Grandfather taught me. And I've never lost a single head of game!

  • @johnwhitley2898
    @johnwhitley2898 Před 2 lety +9

    Kudos 👍👍😎!!! It's about time the merits of the World Famous .270 Win are lauded!!!! My two "GO TO" rifles are .270Win and .30-06 Sprfld. That old .270 will do the job as long as I do my job.
    Not Old, just well seasoned and very capable.

  • @thomasdenoyelles1784
    @thomasdenoyelles1784 Před 2 lety +5

    The 270:has been around this long because it is a great cartridge, does extremely well on all deer, caribou, mountain goat, Sheep etc. I have been using this cartridge for over 45 years took a lot of game with it. I too followed and enjoyed Jack O. I also use the old yet reliable model 94 30-30 great brush gun took a number of White tails with this light weight gun. Thank all of you guys for reducing a great truthful video. Keep up the great work. I like the venerable 30-06 also,

  • @1957jallen
    @1957jallen Před 3 lety +3

    My father gave me a Browning 270 and I have harvested coyote, whitetail, muledeer, antelope, elk and black bear with it. It’s still my go to rifle.

  • @davechrenek8220
    @davechrenek8220 Před 3 lety +9

    Love my .270, my grandpa and uncle have used it since their first hunting days as have I. I explore more then they did but when I’m going hunting I almost always grab my .270 over everything else.

    • @mcbridecreek
      @mcbridecreek Před 3 lety +1

      Your grandpa and uncle weren’t wrong!

  • @ped832
    @ped832 Před 3 lety +4

    My Dad went with 270 several decades ago after years of '06. I will soon be following his lead. Thanks for the affirmation.

  • @johnballantyne6853
    @johnballantyne6853 Před 3 lety +4

    I’ve had my Ruger M77 in .270win for over 25 years now and it has never let me down, i wouldn’t change it for anything. ❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @michaeledlin9995
      @michaeledlin9995 Před rokem

      I have wanted one of those for a long time. A true classic

    • @davewinter2688
      @davewinter2688 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Got my Red pad, tang safety M77R 270W in 1974. Others have come and gone since but it’s still here and ready to go! It works a lot better than I do now. 😊

  • @ribbit1964
    @ribbit1964 Před 3 lety +9

    i recently met a deputy that uses the 270 for his work gun - the passion he had when talking about the round and the performance was just so interesting - the round might have won over a new fan

  • @henryhaina2635
    @henryhaina2635 Před 3 lety +2

    Counseling and consultation has not cured me of the need for faster, larger diameter, heavier bullets. But, 3 years ago I built a 270 on a Ruger 77R action that has now become my primary hunting rifle for everything below bear. With a 130 grain Game King never a failed shot and all one shot kills. I'm sold on the cartridge.

  • @roondoggers87
    @roondoggers87 Před měsícem

    Browning A-Bolt Medallion in .270 is my first rifle from my dad. Plan to keep it in the family for a long time. Does it all.

  • @patrickrodriguez320
    @patrickrodriguez320 Před 4 dny

    Classic through and through born and bred hunter of a cartridge. The thing lives for rocking bucks and bulls flat out. Perfect bled of flat trajectory with impressive sectional density and it punches deep. Those are some long projectiles from 1925.

  • @joshuamagill4342
    @joshuamagill4342 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much!! I've been waiting for this one! My most favorite elk cartridge! All we need now are the 204 ruger, 280 rem/Ackley,17 rem, and 7mm mag. Thanks again!

  • @TheWVgoodguy22
    @TheWVgoodguy22 Před 3 lety +2

    I actually listened to this while driving to work today, but had to watch and listen once more. The .270 Win is my long time cartridge, the only centerfire rifle that I have owned for 20 years (Dad bought me this as my first rifle when I was 15) until I got a .300 WSM in 2019. Both my youngest brother and I love our .270 Wins (Savage M110 for me and Winchester M70 Shadow Warrior for him). We both shoot 130 grain projectiles out of our rifles (Sierra Game Kings and Nosler Ballistic Tips) at around 2950 fps. My brother cooked up a load with the Hornady 140 grain SSTs and RL26 that went 3100 fps, no pressure signs and the first three shots with that load was under an inch. The .270 has been around so long and it is rather easy to reload for in most cases, every cartridge can be picky at times. My bro struggled with the 7mm Rem Mag and gave up on it.
    I feel the term modernized or more modern cartridge get tossed around a lot, just like certain terms that every automotive journalist has their favorite terms to use when describing the feel or look of a vehicle, more modern design is one of them. I feel that if rifle manufacturers would put a 1:8 twist in their .270 Wins and WSMs they would rise in even more popularity, instead of just the standard 1:10 twist so that it can shoot the 150-170 grain weight class higher BC type bullets better. I actually saw that the Ruger American and couple others have the 22-250 in a 1:10 twist instead of the traditional 1:14 maybe 1:12, so the .270 could have it too. I know that the 27 Nosler that recently came out along with the 165 grain Nosler Accubond is a 1:8 to spin that longer bullet.
    I like all three hosts' choices for rifles, part of me would want to go the Jim route (since I already have a longtime .270) and build one (sadly don't have the financial means too, especially full custom not just a barrel swap) with a 1:8 twist and see where I can take the Ole Venerable .270 Win. My vote for "America's Cartridge".
    Thank you three for getting around to sharing my favorite cartridge of all time.

  • @douggrotler8277
    @douggrotler8277 Před 3 lety +5

    Love my 270! One shot per deer for over 40 years! A custom reload of the 6.8 110gr Accubond with a MV of 3350 will give you a 400 yard gun, that doesn't require a range finder or holding off the body!

  • @Limp_Bizkiteer
    @Limp_Bizkiteer Před 3 lety +12

    Actually just got my first hunting rifle the other day off of Gunbroker. Got a 1984 Winchester Model 70 XTR in 270 for $685. Should be here next week. I'm pretty excited.

    • @rikertvonfulton16
      @rikertvonfulton16 Před 2 lety

      You get a deer with it this year?

    • @Limp_Bizkiteer
      @Limp_Bizkiteer Před 2 lety

      @@rikertvonfulton16 No actually. I can't get it sighted in. So far I've put 60 rounds through it and it just seems to be all over the place. 20 rounds of Winchester Super X 130 grain, and 40 rounds of the 150 grain.

    • @rikertvonfulton16
      @rikertvonfulton16 Před 2 lety

      @@Limp_Bizkiteer Oh wow. Scope or ring problem?

    • @Limp_Bizkiteer
      @Limp_Bizkiteer Před 2 lety

      @@rikertvonfulton16 I don't have anything scope on hand to try at the moment, but the scope is my next step.

  • @anthonygraeber2338
    @anthonygraeber2338 Před 3 lety +2

    A favorite of my father, my brothers and myself since 1966. Loading our own cartridges, winning contests, 100s of whitetail, dozens of mule deer, and a few elk - a wonderful history and fond memories. (.243, .270, 7mm RM ‐ my long standing arsenal; most often used - the .270 - for plenty of reasons).

  • @doubleedge7250
    @doubleedge7250 Před 3 lety +3

    Absolutely love the 270. Pairs very well with a Winchester model 70. I happen to have one and use it often.

  • @Jake-dx7ef
    @Jake-dx7ef Před rokem +2

    My go to rifle for deer hunting in the Adirondack mountains in NY is a Remington 7600 pump in 270. Awesome combo

  • @KeystoneTexan
    @KeystoneTexan Před 3 lety +5

    My favorite cartridge of all time! That’s why I have two of them. Plus, it just sounds badass! Lol

  • @jw3946
    @jw3946 Před 3 lety +5

    You need to do a 10min episode on the 270 WSM and 6.8 Western!

  • @kmerkingdomfilms
    @kmerkingdomfilms Před 3 lety +1

    Loves 270, I had mine for 27 year and it has never turn me down.

  • @donaldanderson3249
    @donaldanderson3249 Před 3 lety +6

    Ive got 4 270's and a 270 wsm love them all and have taken everything with them .

  • @missey316
    @missey316 Před 2 lety +2

    Been shooting my 270 for 40 years all 1 shot kills never once having a White tail run, dropped where I shot them. 130 grain nosler partition. Big fan of Jack O'Connor

  • @quintinkale1242
    @quintinkale1242 Před 2 lety

    Shot my second pa buck ever this year, nice 8 point. I used Ruger 77 mk 11 stainless, equipped with stainless 3-9 leupold scope. Shooting the nosler 130 grain accubond trophy amo. Amazing set up cloverleaf groups at 150 off a bench. By far my favorite hun. Switched from a 30-30 and rem 700 30.06 both served well but for me the 270 is the perfect gun for my needs. Great podcast/ video. Thanks for sharing guys. Long live the icon jack O’Connor

  • @kermitwilson
    @kermitwilson Před rokem +2

    @OP, little chance you read this 3 years later but I just discovered your CZcams channel awhile back and I’m catching up. Which is fun because I can binge on these bite sized discussions for days.
    Wonderful chats, extremely informative. There is a lot of information to unpack in these 15-20 minute videos. Excellent format, perfect moderation.
    The discussions are so reasonable, which is something I haven’t seen in a long time when it comes to discussing ammo or platforms. I cannot stress emphasize that point enough
    Thanks to the Vortex team, I’m weak on names but your crew is solid, everyone at the table is bringing something of value which rounds out the discussion. Multiple points of view and experience with respectful dialogue. Nobody talks over anyone else and disagreements are bolstered with context.
    These videos are a lot of fun and the next scope I buy I’ll be stroking for a Vortex, as spending is my only way of showing appreciation. I’m just getting into scopes (mid-40s and my eyes just went soft) but I’m fairly confident Vortex will have something in 4 or 6 power fixed and low parallax issues. And water tight, naturally.

  • @terryharris9741
    @terryharris9741 Před rokem +1

    My primary hunting rifle since 1979 has been a Ruger M77 in 270 with a 4x Leopold, I've taken loads of Mulies and Whitetails and a few Elk. All with 130 gr Speer Boatails 98% one shot.

  • @danielbowman4819
    @danielbowman4819 Před 3 lety +2

    Used the 270 for about 20 years now. Harvested alot of whitetail and muledeer with it, and even a couple of coyotes! 58 grains of Hodgdon 4831sc with a Nosler 140 grain Accubond, does the job!

  • @123wetland
    @123wetland Před 3 lety +8

    The .270 Winchester is more viable than ever! Keep in mind that the rise of the .270 Winchester came back a long time ago when there were only a few powders and bullets available. How much better now is the .270 Winchester with new powders and bullets? The same could be said for the 30/06 also.... Our old staple cartridges are better than ever..... and yes, Jack O'Connor did write and publicize the .270 Winchester, however, what made the .270 Winchester popular is how it performed on game. If it wasn't a performer on game, Jack would have never written about it!

  • @calvinfarrow3819
    @calvinfarrow3819 Před 3 lety +1

    Got my first rifle when I was 12, a Remington 700 chambered in .270 Winchester. Since then, I’ve taken many elk, deer, and antelope in all sorts of sizes and ranges with it without a problem. I run 150 grain handloads and I’ve never been disappointed with the results, even big bull elk

  • @jamesmarkov9570
    @jamesmarkov9570 Před 3 lety +4

    The .270 is an excellent cartridge. Period.

  • @michaelthompson7570
    @michaelthompson7570 Před rokem

    Good info here. Will watch again as am looking for my first 270. Answered a lot of my questions,,thanks guys

  • @scruffyarms
    @scruffyarms Před rokem +2

    Love this guys. I just picked up a Model 70 Featherweight Super Grade in 270 Win (My dream rifle) and the Cabela's 50th Anniversary 1 of 500!

  • @2017Toy
    @2017Toy Před 2 lety

    I love this show talking about guns optics and cartridges is my favorite thing in the world to do keep up the great work guys

  • @JC-gj1gg
    @JC-gj1gg Před rokem +1

    I love my Remington 700 270. My first ever firearm. I threw a vortex 1-9 on there and I can smoke the deer up here in the blueridge mountains of NC easily. Out of all the rifles I have I’m still rocking my 60’s marlin 30-30 iron sights in the deep, thick hollers around here and my 270 for more distance. My buddy dropped a bull elk at 475 yrds in New Mexico with his 270 and dropped it on the spot.

  • @tomhairston4980
    @tomhairston4980 Před rokem +2

    The .270 has been around since 1925. Jack O'Connor used it on all sizes of game and proved its one of the all time best calibers...putting game down is more about shot placement than rifle caliber..I've never had an animal get away when using my pre-64 Mod 70, with 130 gr bullets

  • @alexd3341
    @alexd3341 Před 2 lety +1

    My first deer rifle was a 270 and I absolutely loved it. Gave you alittle extra thump over the 243, while sacrificing the flat shooting. I loved the round, and it will always have a place in my safe, but I can't change away from my 300 win mag. WOULD LOVE A 300 WIN MAG talk. Much love from Virginia!

    • @VortexNation
      @VortexNation  Před 2 lety

      Super cool! Thanks for being a part of Vortex Nation, Alex!👊

  • @Amaces1
    @Amaces1 Před 3 lety +2

    I just bought a Winchester XPR in .270 Win, and topped it with a Vortex Strike Eagle 3-18x44, and even with the cheap Winchester silver box ammo, it’ll ring steel at 400 yrds shot after shot for a joke. It’s all I use for white tail deer, but if I ever get drawn for an Eastern moose tag, I’ll go with some Nosler AccuBond big game cartridges and I’ll be ready for larger game, just like that!

  • @douglasmaynor1420
    @douglasmaynor1420 Před 3 lety +41

    I would love too see one on the .280 ackley improved

  • @christianbinkerd1662
    @christianbinkerd1662 Před 3 lety +5

    This is the Christmas I asked for and needed 😍🥰

  • @macenbarmore1900
    @macenbarmore1900 Před 3 lety +1

    Have both and love them ! 270 is my hunting cartridge and 6.5 is my dog and target gun only an idiot will hate one or the other . Love them all

  • @eric8851
    @eric8851 Před 3 lety +4

    Love the 270, filled our freezer for years

  • @Stonewallx39
    @Stonewallx39 Před rokem +1

    The big advantage the 270 has of many short action “modern cartridges” is that is stays in the velocity range to expand reliably much further down range (many 308 loads are below 2000fps before 300 yards). The Achilles heal of the 270 is the fast velocity at close ranges could cause bullet fragmentation which destroyed meat and sometimes didn’t penetrate deep enough. With a high quality bonded/partition/monolithic bullet that issue is resolved and the 270 will expand rapidly and penetrate deeply enough for clean elk/moose harvests.

  • @danielprsguitar
    @danielprsguitar Před 3 lety +1

    This was a great episode on the way to doing all the Weatherby cartridges!

  • @joelclark2130
    @joelclark2130 Před 3 lety

    Video great information 270 awesome cartridge for hand loader, Can't beat it

  • @travelswithbob4278
    @travelswithbob4278 Před 2 lety +2

    When I first started whitetail deer hunting, I didn't know much about the different rounds. A buddy talked me into a good used Browning BAR in .270. I never regretted the choice, but I also never needed that 2nd quick shot that has been at my disposal (though maybe my time in the Marines made me feel more comfortable about having a semiautomatic).

  • @trevorkolmatycki4042
    @trevorkolmatycki4042 Před 10 měsíci +2

    There is something about the 270WIN that makes me feel like it’s just got to be chambered in a rifle with a nice walnut stock.
    I recently got mine in a Browning X-bolt hunter and it’s fantastic!
    It would also be very nice in a new Winchester M70 featherweight!

  • @andeanphoto
    @andeanphoto Před 3 lety +1

    I just got a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight with a gorgeous wood stock in .270 Win. caliber. A caliber I've been shooting since the early seventies. It does an excellent job in capable hands. I love to take it to the shooting range and practice, practice, practice. Very moderate recoil with 130 gr. bullets.

  • @turdferguson3585
    @turdferguson3585 Před 3 lety +3

    A great cartridge from crows to elk. A load I've started using in my .270 Win the last 2 seasons, Double Tap 160gr Nosler Partition. In my 24" bbl getting just over 2900fps. 22" bbl I believe they advertise 2850ish. I strongly recommend, they stabilize and shoot great and are Thor's hammer for whitetail.

  • @theagentorange1054
    @theagentorange1054 Před 3 lety +3

    Great episode guys!! Let's get one on the .300 Weatherby next!!

  • @greggibson6914
    @greggibson6914 Před 3 lety +1

    Love my 270 Weatherby Vanguard for 20 years.

  • @archangel20031
    @archangel20031 Před 3 lety +14

    Love my Winchester Model 70 in 30-06, and if I could have it in any other caliber, it would have been the 270.

    • @Noone765
      @Noone765 Před 3 lety +2

      I agree, so much so I have both 270 and 3006.

    • @nickb8618
      @nickb8618 Před rokem

      My dads a bit of a model 70 nut. 30-06, 270, 270wsm, 300 win mag, 243, 308. He doesn’t own another rifle other than a model 70. The one he always hunted with was his 30-06 he bought when he was in the army 50 some years ago

  • @michaelbosisto6259
    @michaelbosisto6259 Před 3 lety

    I absolutely love my Christiansen Arms Traverse in .270 Winchester. I’m currently shooting Federal Custom shop .270 win using the ELDX.145 hornady. I’m getting .38 MOA at 200 yards easily and frequently.... match accuracy with a hunting bullet.
    This rifle has put down more game than all my rifles combined. I’m glad I took my friends advice.

  • @chipsterb4946
    @chipsterb4946 Před rokem +2

    My most accurate rifle is a sporterized Mauser ‘98 chambered in 270 Winchester. I think it was made in the early 1960s based on the Jaeger sliding dovetail detachable scope mount and the Lyman Alaskan 2x scope with a German post reticle.
    I’m so glad you asked the question “which rifle available today would you buy chambered in 270?” A pre-1964 Winchester Model 70 would be perfect, but I’m tempted to swim against the tide and get a very “modern” rifle just because.

    • @chipsterb4946
      @chipsterb4946 Před 6 měsíci

      Update: I recently came across a late ‘70s Sako A III carbine (Mannlicher full length stock) in .270 Winchester and added it to the herd.

  • @72codeman
    @72codeman Před 3 lety +15

    I just put a 7.5” twist 26 inch 270 barrel on my savage 110, gonna be shooting the Berger 170 eol

  • @jeffjones3202
    @jeffjones3202 Před 3 lety

    Been reloadin & shootin my 270 Remington BDL LH for 40 yrs. Does it all, based on powder load & bullet weight. I think it's perfect! Just my opinion.. Preciate ya'll talkin bout it.

  • @Dr_Xyzt
    @Dr_Xyzt Před 3 lety +1

    The .270 is a great round. Easy to love.

  • @Andrewlikesguns
    @Andrewlikesguns Před 3 lety

    My buddy and I both have the Mossberg Patriot in .270. He got the black synthetic stock, I got the walnut stock. With the wood, the spiral fluting on the bolt and the straight fluting on the barrel, that gun is so classy for well under $500.

  • @andrewtucker8441
    @andrewtucker8441 Před 3 lety

    I've only just found you guys and I'm enjoying the vid's/talks👍
    Coincidentally, I only recently got my first centre fire rifle. I opted for the Sako S20 Hunter in .270Win. And I love it!
    Struggling for a scope though. Aside from being broke, still off work due to Covid, I can't get my head around the choices and all the info. So all scope advise or recommendations appreciated👍
    Keep it up with the good vid's.
    Andy T,
    UK

  • @JohnDoe-du6yi
    @JohnDoe-du6yi Před 3 lety +1

    You young guys crack me up with your perspectives.

  • @SWATT101
    @SWATT101 Před rokem +3

    I grew up reading Outdoor Life etc. Naturally I bought a .270. It was marketed well lol

  • @strat1080
    @strat1080 Před 3 lety +1

    Good choices on the rifles. I love my Tikka T3x SS in 270. Light but not too light and very accurate

  • @herbertsmith6416
    @herbertsmith6416 Před rokem

    I've had chemo and I'm kinda confined to my recliner for awhile yall keep me entertained Ilove yall

  • @cherylwennergren9246
    @cherylwennergren9246 Před 2 lety

    I have a .270 for many years and it always brought home the bacon for me.

  • @freighttrain9667
    @freighttrain9667 Před 2 lety +1

    .270 Winchester is a great cartridge !!!!! Love it!!