ALL Buffs & Nerfs Apex Legends Season 21 (Wingman Floor Loot, Insane Catalyst Buff, and more)

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
  • Apex Legends Season 21 Upheaval all changes buffs & nerfs. Some major changes to Catalyst, Newcastle, fuse, wingman, care package changes, and much more! All is timestamped below!
    Video Is Made Possible By EA Creator Network
    Timestamps:
    00:00 Apex Season 21 All Buffs & Nerfs
    00:13 Wingman Changes
    00:50 Longbow Changes
    01:30 Devotion Care-package
    02:03 Digi-threat Removed
    02:23 Banner Animation Removed
    02:48 Insane Catalyst Buff
    04:23 Reminder Check Out Alter Guide
    04:41 Insane Newcastle Buff
    06:53 Fuse Perk Buff
    07:21 Ash Buff
    08:06 Crypto Perk Change
    09:12 Ballistic Perk Buff
    10:47 Bloodhound Perk Change (Question Mark)
    12:05 Conduit Perk Change
    Best ALTER GUIDE For Learning Going Noob To Pro On Apex Legends Season 21: • Best ALTER GUIDE For L...
    Apex Season 21 Alter Solo Gameplay: Exploring NEW Mode & UPDATED Broken Moon: • Apex Season 21 Alter S...
    Apex Legends Season 21 Playlist: • Apex Legends Season 21...
    #apex #apexlegends #gaming
    ♫ Music
    Apex Legends OST
    Apex Legends Thumbnail Designer: edy.art/thumbnails
  • Hry

Komentáře • 956

  • @Dazs
    @Dazs  Před měsícem +26

    Lots of insane buffs & nerfs for Season 21, what do you think?
    Best ALTER GUIDE For Learning Going Noob To Pro On Apex Legends Season 21: czcams.com/video/oL0Joeg_1Ys/video.html
    Apex Season 21 Alter Solo Gameplay: Exploring NEW Mode & UPDATED Broken Moon: czcams.com/video/IdwEBXMxoLE/video.html

    • @Rich-MarsEco
      @Rich-MarsEco Před měsícem +1

      Can Conduit hold 4 batteries per slot with that perk and a gold bag? Or does it cancel out, cuz that would make that ability less great

    • @Alvatraust
      @Alvatraust Před měsícem

      What Ash really needs
      Ash perk rework
      Tier one
      Assassins tempo
      Knocks charge ultimate by 20%
      Or
      Cybernetic Shinobi
      Gain 2 arc snares
      2nd tier
      Blade dancer
      -Gain 2 ultimate charges with reduced distance
      Or
      Arc enhancement
      Snares can trap multiple players and persist 25% longer

    • @xXTheBigMatt94xX
      @xXTheBigMatt94xX Před měsícem

      The Ash change is really cool but unfortunately you can only throw her tactical while hipfiring on controller. It's too awkward to press ADS and the tactical button at the same time because I press them with the same finger (index finger). It feels too weird for me to press the left trigger with my middle finger, plus I use my middle finger to press my left back button which is jump for me, so it would literally be impossible for me to ADS, press the tactical and jump at the same time.
      I really wish Respawn allowed us more ways to input commands, because Playstation controllers have gyro controls that go completely unused. Would love to be able to flick my controller upwards to jump
      I play on PS4 so I would love to see that implemented in-game. I know you can customize gyro controls on Steam on PC

    • @ProdigyMahadev
      @ProdigyMahadev Před měsícem

      Great Video as always . I hope you show us full Artifact Katar video also and every customization on it .

    • @Dontjudgeme420
      @Dontjudgeme420 Před měsícem

      To answer your question about the Crypto perk that became base kit. Now when you throw the drone it will always call out the number of nearby squads. Also, if you look back at the footage, when you throw the drone the banners to display that info so you don't have to be in Drone anymore for that information. It's honestly gonna be SUPER awesome. We Crypto mains are super fucking excited.

  • @galexycode2622
    @galexycode2622 Před měsícem +867

    The fact that nobody is talking about the crypto changes just shows how much people underestimate him. All of his new perks are amazing. and the constant banner scan even if you're not looking through your drone means you'll never be surprised by a 3rd party again. I honestly thought he was in a pretty good spot, so these buffs just make me happy

    • @catpacksystem
      @catpacksystem Před měsícem +57

      lots of people talking about the crypto changes here 😺 speed boost on EMP is so good to have

    • @Zehoq
      @Zehoq Před měsícem +48

      Crypto is trash

    • @The_Fighter03
      @The_Fighter03 Před měsícem +139

      Only Crypto main realize how massive these changes are

    • @Jeff-gc2sb
      @Jeff-gc2sb Před měsícem +18

      Crypto is hot garbage.

    • @hideii_YT
      @hideii_YT Před měsícem +16

      He’s already gret these buffs are pushing him over the edge

  • @EchoLocoCJ
    @EchoLocoCJ Před měsícem +268

    Ash players have been begging for that change FOR YEARS
    also as a big newcastle fan who already thought he was busted, this is even better now

    • @Turned2Ice
      @Turned2Ice Před měsícem +5

      yeah so cool to pin enemy in open while shooting him xddddddddddddddddddddddd

    • @Owen7768
      @Owen7768 Před měsícem +7

      Yes, as main Newcastle it's much better now

    • @clancamper
      @clancamper Před měsícem +11

      ash mains rejoice, change is happening. albeit slowly but ITS HAPPENING

    • @Tripplace.
      @Tripplace. Před měsícem +5

      ​@@clancamperIM AN ASH MAIN, IM SO HAPPY, but can I use it while healing? Anyone know if I can do that?

    • @noahjones6616
      @noahjones6616 Před měsícem

      No I think he’s not busted his mobile shield is situational, his revive is pretty good but can leave you vulnerable in certain situations, his tactical and ultimate only having one direction of protection is what’s holding him back, a lot of room for counterplay, he’s definitely good but the second worst support character in front of mirage.

  • @shivernaut9884
    @shivernaut9884 Před měsícem +153

    As a Newcastle main that buff is fucking ridiculous. Newcastle did rely a lot on wattson before. It's kind of funny they didn't fix what newc needed but they gave him this insane shit instead lol. Like he still needs better castle placement. Fast tac deploy is pretty unnecessary but it does make him easier to play, so kind of lowering the skill floor slightly. But this definitely makes him strong af.

    • @dvp1694
      @dvp1694 Před měsícem +1

      True but that just makes that comp even stronger together

    • @sickofdumbasses5401
      @sickofdumbasses5401 Před měsícem

      a really good buff. made his entire class and ultimate great. His ult was already strong but all it took was a few nades to flush them out. I wonder if mad maggies riot drill will be destroyed by this too?

    • @xavierpage8575
      @xavierpage8575 Před měsícem +5

      Hell yeaa I counted just now and keep in mind it’s 14 grenades till the energy wears off which a SHIT ton love that for new castle

    • @H4STEGG
      @H4STEGG Před měsícem +13

      If anything, having Q deploy be more reactive now allows more plays, thus raising the skill ceiling.

    • @xavierpage8575
      @xavierpage8575 Před měsícem +6

      @@H4STEGG factssss definitely a lifesaver considering how many times I went to shield myself with it and getting blasted before it deploys or trying to save knocked teammate from being finished

  • @e303gt
    @e303gt Před měsícem +149

    Hate they took the digi out. Re45 or Mozambique with hammers was my favorite thing this past season. No one expected a pistol through the smoke/gas.

    • @BigA678
      @BigA678 Před měsícem +6

      Re45 was my favorite last season. Too OP

    • @lowdopamine1619
      @lowdopamine1619 Před měsícem +6

      That’s why they took it out bruh

    • @KlonopinTheOmen
      @KlonopinTheOmen Před měsícem +6

      ​@@lowdopamine1619no they said it was only used in niche scenarios but that's not true at all. Bang has been a staple legend that's on almost every team, how the hell is the digi not important? I think it's because the spawn rate for it was bad so hardly anyone would carry it. I'm excited for this season but some changes are just blatantly stupid. I see no reason to remove the digi, even with the amount of scan legends we have. As a caustic main, digi on the Mastiff was GOD TIER while fighting in the gas. That's something they didn't think about huh, caustic gas all over the place. That's what it started really being used for with these perk changes. His 50% larger ult are was HUGE with a digi threat man. That's my opinion

    • @euqinemor
      @euqinemor Před měsícem +2

      @@KlonopinTheOmen Also Fighting Caustic with digital was huge, it's like they dont even have the data of the game on how often those legends are picked up, look at worlds, almost every team runs Caustic + Bang.

    • @kittyratrawr
      @kittyratrawr Před měsícem +2

      @@KlonopinTheOmenno digi means no shooting from inside of smoke or gas. it's strictly better. that's a bit of a buff for caustic if you manage to get some sneaky gas plays. nobody liked getting shot through smoke/gas walls, completely reasonable to remove it.

  • @steamboatWilliam8
    @steamboatWilliam8 Před měsícem +87

    The ash buff should’ve been there the whole time! Not enough for her

    • @jupiterapollo4985
      @jupiterapollo4985 Před měsícem +3

      I agree. But it's still not enough to make her relevant or complete.

    • @travcanti5508
      @travcanti5508 Před měsícem +3

      Alter does what I think ash was supposed to do. Ash needs a lot more to be viable 😞

  • @hootels1770
    @hootels1770 Před měsícem +87

    They really gave us one hand snare and that’s it 💀

    • @redzone4412
      @redzone4412 Před měsícem

      Dead ass like her perks are dog shit but still happy about it finally

    • @jupiterapollo4985
      @jupiterapollo4985 Před měsícem +15

      Exactly! Not even close enough to making her relevant to other legends 😂. It seems they honestly have no idea what to do with her, and are too afriad to increase her abilities less she becomes too powerful or some crap.

    • @maddenplaya2097
      @maddenplaya2097 Před měsícem +5

      They need to buff the snare to make it cancel what people are doing like old Seer would and give 2 ult charges

    • @lukerees281
      @lukerees281 Před měsícem +1

      i wish the snare would not let you Q out of it as Wraith or Horizon

    • @scoom072
      @scoom072 Před měsícem

      @@maddenplaya2097 we need you working at respawn💯

  • @Sora-vj8nc
    @Sora-vj8nc Před měsícem +99

    I swear I kept wishing they make Ash's tactical off hand like this, like a week or two ago.... They delivered... That's crazy

  • @LuckyWasLive
    @LuckyWasLive Před měsícem +87

    EXPLAINING THE NEW CRYPTO STUFF CAUSE I'M A CRYPTO MAIN
    [ GENERAL BUFFS ]
    - Crypto HAD a perk called "network trafficing" which made it so when he threw his drone out it would tell you how many squads were in a 200m radius of the drone, this is now part of his base kit so he will always have it
    -When Crypto throws his drone out all of the banners will change to show how many squads are in a 200m radius even when he is NOT in the drone (this used to only work when he was in drone view)
    [ PERK CHANGES ]
    - Moved "Network expansion" perk from teir 3 (purple) to tier 2 (blue)
    - REMOVED ALL OTHER PERKS
    [ 3 NEW PERKS ]
    - "Quick Transmition" will make his drone accelerate and decelerate faster (making it easier to control)
    - "Satellite Imagry" makes it so when cryptos drone is destroyed he will still be able to see enemies for 1.5 secs (kinda bad in my opinion)
    - "Hackathon" this one has two perks, the first one cuts his drone cooldown in half, the second one gives him a pretty big speed boost when he uses his EMP or his drone gets destroyed
    (NOTE I GOT THIS INFORMATION FROM OTHER PLAYTESTING VIDEOS BUT IT MAY BE SUBJECT TO CHANGE)
    that is all that I know of, tell me if I missed anything :P

    • @logantaylor1834
      @logantaylor1834 Před měsícem +4

      To clear up any confusion, the perk that was moved into his base kit (the one that made him say the number of nearby teams out loud on drone deploy) is "Network Traffic". "Network Expansion" was moved to Tier 2

    • @snowconebrat7329
      @snowconebrat7329 Před měsícem +4

      I'm pretty sure his Satellite Imagery perk is going to be a bit better in practice than on paper. It affects ALL scans not just when the drone is destroyed. This means that if an enemy runs indoors you can see them for a short amount of time. If you control the drone you could move it in and out of cover while still highlighting enemies.

    • @snowconebrat7329
      @snowconebrat7329 Před měsícem +1

      Essentially the left side perks are for on your feet drone use while the right side are controlled drone use. When the upgrades used to be EMP and Drone upgrades.

    • @logantaylor1834
      @logantaylor1834 Před měsícem +5

      @@snowconebrat7329 I see. It might be good, but a speed boost when you EMP is just gonna be so much better for aggression and running away, which are things he sorely lacks without a co-ordinated team. AND it cuts his drone cooldown in half

    • @zaglezigawa8415
      @zaglezigawa8415 Před měsícem

      Pin this Dazs

  • @dudeofdudes
    @dudeofdudes Před měsícem +70

    That rebuilding doors change with catalyst and the trophy system of Newcastle is crazy, definitely gonna make waves in the meta. I do feel that immediate counter for the catalyst is either alter or Maggie but still, we playin fortnite with the rebuilding of doors 😂😂

    • @zsideswapper6718
      @zsideswapper6718 Před měsícem +1

      Quad editing with this one 🗣🗣🗣

    • @343ishill
      @343ishill Před měsícem

      NC now counters Maggie, just like Watson's ult it'll zap the wrecking ball.

    • @user-xb5rl6od3c
      @user-xb5rl6od3c Před měsícem

      @@343ishillwait no horizon ult + nades don’t counter anymore😭😭

    • @ngf5077
      @ngf5077 Před měsícem +1

      I won’t use it. I get so many kills as catalyst by dissolving my own wall when an enemy is on the other side.
      If it’s a door they can block it

    • @jupiterapollo4985
      @jupiterapollo4985 Před měsícem +1

      That rebuilding door is great but visually stupid 😂. Like how is she rebuilding an actual door? They should have just added some extra goo reinforcement that acted like a door after the buff instead (maybe make the goo look like an actual door). At least that visually makes sense.

  • @xMzBellatrix
    @xMzBellatrix Před měsícem +156

    SO happy banner animation is removed. Cat rebuilding doors is insane. Newcastle wall feels like a bit much and feels bad for Wattson. Fuse ring console is… interesting. Bh extend duration is new, or old rather lol . New to perks but an old buff. I was hoping to see 99 return but feels pretty good overall. Thanks Dazs!

    • @Dazs
      @Dazs  Před měsícem +6

      Appreciate you immensely! :) :)

    • @jfierro1394
      @jfierro1394 Před měsícem +2

      As one of the 4 Newcastle mains, I’m glad they’re finally showing Newcastle some love. We’re still waiting on the heirloom though!!!!

    • @nspyrsuccess
      @nspyrsuccess Před měsícem +1

      Thank u , I agree I too main castle but I also main watty . I feel the buff to castle was unnecessary as much as I understand wa at wing to raise pick rate , there are other ways

    • @RemedieX
      @RemedieX Před měsícem +1

      ​@@nspyrsuccess Nah, it's fine. It's good that more legends share ability qualities. They're not the same and both are good at different things.
      In this case, they're about the same as Ash port is to Wraith's. Not very. Castle can still get ganged by explosives, runs out, you can shoot down the effect, and the ULT doesn't recharge shields. It's possible to make it work, maybe with a lower duration, but ATM, it's a good direction for the ULT because it's a joke without a trophy mechanic lol

    • @nspyrsuccess
      @nspyrsuccess Před měsícem +1

      @@RemedieX yea after review it definitely is the same and I’m still not a fan, unnecessary. Wattson is in the game for that exact reason. Shi wack

  • @skitzo899
    @skitzo899 Před měsícem +13

    alter: nice buffs catalyst *phases through rebuilt door*

    • @Pikkoroo
      @Pikkoroo Před měsícem

      She’ll still have to win that 1v1 maybe there’s goos on the floor too you’ll never know till you portal into it

    • @Cataclysm999
      @Cataclysm999 Před měsícem

      Bold of you to assume that catalyst doesn't place her traps all over the place

  • @sonicallstarify
    @sonicallstarify Před měsícem +45

    Devotion needs to stay permanently in the package

    • @Sanjixoxo
      @Sanjixoxo Před měsícem

      Lol why?

    • @sonicallstarify
      @sonicallstarify Před měsícem +20

      @@Sanjixoxo It's impossible to balance for floor loot. There doesn't exist a state of which the gun is just right.
      Either it's underpowered and not worth going through all the trouble of collecting the Exodia pieces
      Or
      It's grossly overpowered and becomes a shut your brain off weapon.
      Just leave it in the package so it has the right of being powerful but the punishment of being scarce.

    • @xraku3744
      @xraku3744 Před měsícem +2

      @@sonicallstarify i agree especially because devo is pretty bad in lategame with the TTK on red shields, but if you get a devo on drop it melts people in grey evos with no skill

    • @thebetterodds1141
      @thebetterodds1141 Před měsícem

      @@xraku3744not gone lie anytime this season I got a Turbocharged Devo my team was winning it shreds right through red evos

    • @creesco8744
      @creesco8744 Před měsícem

      Wingman

  • @CrystalClear5617
    @CrystalClear5617 Před měsícem +13

    As a wattson main: as long as they don't touch our abilities or only touch them to buff her I don't mind Newcastle copying it

  • @BigPro1123
    @BigPro1123 Před měsícem +29

    One handed Ash snare LETS GOOOOOOOOO

  • @gobebaeletse5724
    @gobebaeletse5724 Před měsícem +14

    The ringmaster on Fuse is an interesting one. Fuse tends favour zone comps more but then you would have to play a comp that increases his survival. As far as end game legends his is definitely underrated.

    • @funkycrawler619
      @funkycrawler619 Před měsícem +1

      I think that's what they were going for with Fuse is to actually plan for end game. his entire kit punishes the end game the most so its actually not a bad perk

  • @JackieLombardi
    @JackieLombardi Před měsícem +25

    I don't know if i like the digi threat being removed... I'm gonna miss it

    • @Duckinatorz
      @Duckinatorz Před měsícem +7

      But we still have the shitty sniper one that no one touches lol

    • @EuphoriaFF2
      @EuphoriaFF2 Před měsícem

      @@Duckinatorz fr all the gold ranked vantage mains will try to prove you wrong on that 💀

    • @AcidMouse689
      @AcidMouse689 Před 29 dny +1

      It's irritating they have removed it It's one of the items that helped level the playing field against bangalore or catalyst's abilities It's only been removed because pro players were whinging about it.

  • @yuzuru8905
    @yuzuru8905 Před měsícem +37

    crypto has a passive (if you can call it that) that allows him to ping the big banners around the map in drone mode to show how many squads are within roughly minimap range. currently he has a perk that auto pings the number of squads nearby when he throws out his drone, instead of needing pilot the drone to ping. based on what i understand from the video, next update he's gonna get the auto ping the number of nearby squads on drone throw perk baked into his kit.
    emp and neurolink (his wallhack through the drone vision) range increase was in lv3 perks but they moved it to lv2, and all the other perks are new. dk how good improved drone handling is, maybe it makes it more maneuverable and harder for people to shoot down, drone scan persists for 1.5 sec probably means the scan stays for 1.5 secs after they leave drone vision range, hackathon looks like the most interesting addition since it cuts your drone cooldown from 40 to 20 secs if it gets destroyed, and the speed boost on emp definitely helps when pushing since you're usually 2 steps behind your team cause you sometimes need to position the drone and drop the emp before you can join the push.

    • @logantaylor1834
      @logantaylor1834 Před měsícem +2

      I'm guessing the increased drone handling will be great for starting EMP pushes close to the enemy, as you don't have the bigger EMP, and it allows you to move the drone far enough to stop it from hitting yourself. May be quite strong for close-range, aggressive comps.

    • @felipejesus4401
      @felipejesus4401 Před měsícem

      Yeah but they took away his ultimate cooldown perk so in the end its a nerf😔

    • @joseandresjulienbarriere8786
      @joseandresjulienbarriere8786 Před měsícem

      @@felipejesus4401 I never needed that. You can use ultimate accelerators and you will have an emp in every fight. The ultimate cooldown perk was meh. The way to go was the drone cooldown and now they made it way better.
      You can disagree, thats the beauty of been alive lol

    • @Yoru-desu13
      @Yoru-desu13 Před měsícem

      Losing the emp CD is a nerf imo, but the overall changes is a buff. I'd rather have more CD than range, but that's just me.
      Base kit can see squads. 8:48 look at the banners at the top, can see even not in drone. He'll call it out just by throwing.
      Take the speed boost after emp > handling imo

    • @joseandresjulienbarriere8786
      @joseandresjulienbarriere8786 Před měsícem

      @@Yoru-desu13 the thing is I usually went for drone cooldown anyways. I’ve rarely encounter myself in a situation where I need the EMP and I don’t have it (or have a ult accel). But I encounter myself in a lot of situations where I need my drone and I do not have it. Or I’m going to emp and my drone gets destroyed, now I have to wait 40 seconds… idk, I do not really think the emp cooldown reduction was that necessary.

  • @tidusg10
    @tidusg10 Před měsícem +6

    I've been waiting a long time for a buff for Newcastle and it's finally here

  • @samcresswell8293
    @samcresswell8293 Před měsícem

    Thanks for this info man❤ love it🙌🏻 good luck in season 21 everyone!

  • @snowconebrat7329
    @snowconebrat7329 Před měsícem +11

    Crypto getting SIGNIFICANT buffs is huge. His previous perks were essentially non existent and barely helped. The timing of his perks was really awkward and it made it really challenging to actually get use from his perks. Also being able to see banners without looking into your drone actually acts like a good Crypto passive!

    • @Smegmadonis
      @Smegmadonis Před měsícem

      Hold up, what does it mean that scan last 1.5 more secs?
      Are the scans not infinite now, did they nerd him!?

    • @Takeo_67
      @Takeo_67 Před měsícem +3

      ​@@Smegmadonis the scan is still infinite as long as the enemy stays in the drones scan range. What the perk does, is that when the enemy leaves the scan range, destroys your drone or you call your drone back, the enemy stays scanned for 1.5 seconds afterwards, rather the scan wearing out instantly.

    • @secretpepperclub6160
      @secretpepperclub6160 Před měsícem +5

      Crypto buff is monumental. Just being able to always see how many squads that are in the area by looking up at the banners is wild. The duration of scanning being 1.5 second, absurd. The speed boost leaving the drone.... Crypto will be played with a lot more by people, and I guarantee you they will be sweaty.

    • @felipejesus4401
      @felipejesus4401 Před měsícem

      They deleted the ultimate cooldown perk tho so in the end its a nerf to him

  • @vagabondcaleb8915
    @vagabondcaleb8915 Před měsícem +11

    Holy...Even Raven won't be able to dump on Newcastle now...

  • @benzahn7421
    @benzahn7421 Před měsícem

    Awesome vid man

  • @BET2381
    @BET2381 Před měsícem +4

    I loved the digi. I wasn’t even mad since the re-45 could still use it

  • @dinmadaniel9830
    @dinmadaniel9830 Před měsícem +9

    LOL!! respawn buffing catalyst to make alter shine with her tac😅😅

  • @darraghmcmullen6205
    @darraghmcmullen6205 Před měsícem +5

    The Crypto note you wrote down was about Crypto being able to see how many squads were in a 200m radius of Crypto when in drone view and looking at banners. So now he doesn't need to use drone to see that. They've made some really good changes to Crypto that steer him away from just being man with gun when drone is destroyed and reducing how long crypto is man with gun when drone is destroyed
    If you pick drone recharge rate its a 20 second cooldown for when your drone is destroyed compared to 40 and speed boost to top it off. Crypto also gets the speed boost after activating EMP so these are some amazing Crypto buffs. Double right side is definitely the pick since you want a shorter EMP range to play on the outskirts off and you get a speed boost to capitalise on your damage
    Drone handling either means drone speed buff or entering and exiting drone buff and both are amazing

    • @Darki13
      @Darki13 Před měsícem +1

      couldnt drone movement be turning? if you pay attention the turning on the drone is really rough

    • @darraghmcmullen6205
      @darraghmcmullen6205 Před měsícem

      @@Darki13 Could be which would be nice

    • @PerzyYT
      @PerzyYT Před měsícem

      You always want the increase passive/ult range… no reason to pick the other perk.
      I think the better handling perk only affects drone acceleration and deceleration speed so it’s useless. Nobody uses the drone to actually fly around and scout

    • @darraghmcmullen6205
      @darraghmcmullen6205 Před měsícem

      @@PerzyYT You'll want the increased speed to avoid bullets and to pull of an emp quicker. Increased range always just seemed like a nerf to me since you're more likely to stun yourself or teammates

  • @Zeptil
    @Zeptil Před měsícem

    The part of the crypto changes you were asking about were in regards to the big banners on the walls around the map that usually display the current champion squad, normally when crypto enters his drone those banners change to show him the current number of squads near him in a radius, so now he can see it even when not in his drone. You can actually see it happen at 8:48 with the banners directly ahead in front of you, but the F1 to upgrade gets in the way a bit

  • @zulkiers7302
    @zulkiers7302 Před 22 dny

    @Dazs
    for the conduit change, does it stack with Golden Backpack?

  • @elementpixles1358
    @elementpixles1358 Před měsícem +3

    the gameing merchant found that the Newcastle wall can still be sky naded tho, so its not completely invulnerable from the front. Still a crazy buff tho

  • @HighShyGuy420
    @HighShyGuy420 Před měsícem +13

    Speed whsitler was already one of ballistics perks... The guy needs some base kit buffs imo

    • @loledssdafd3429
      @loledssdafd3429 Před měsícem +8

      Not much you can really buff there, he is the best duelist in the game with a great team ultimate. He just doesnt fit in current meta

    • @p6id
      @p6id Před měsícem

      i think they should’ve made one of his perks overheat the weapons faster or make the lock on faster

    • @Elsuya_Milo
      @Elsuya_Milo Před měsícem +2

      Having a useful sling weapon outside of his ult is kinda cool tho, it could've been basekit tho imo.

    • @therockerninja
      @therockerninja Před měsícem +1

      They could’ve gave him a perk called split shot were the bullets break apart possibly hitting 2 targets, or my favorite the tranquilizer whistler where it slows the enemy tact sprint for 3 seconds.

  • @amadhatter3280
    @amadhatter3280 Před měsícem +1

    The Crypto change is before you could only see the number of squads in the area on Champion Banners WHEN you were in your Drone, now he can see the number of squads in the area on those Champion anytime (so long as his Drone is out). Look at 8:55 & look at the Champion Banner at the top center of the screen, when you throw the Drone it changes to display the number of squads in the area.

  • @haleigh423
    @haleigh423 Před měsícem +1

    The squad count banners mean that the banners that display the champion around the map will always display how many squads are near when the drone is deployed instead of Having to look at them with neurolink (in the video notice the banner change in the background at 8:47)

  • @Darki13
    @Darki13 Před měsícem +4

    as one of the 3 crypto mains thats so good

  • @paragonflash8937
    @paragonflash8937 Před měsícem +3

    Crypto main. Definately happy with his perk change. Seems like they removed the EMP and Drone cooldown reduction upgrades and in favor of giving crypto better recon abilities and movement when his drone is on recharge . That speed boost makes a big difference because the main issue with Crypto it is so easy to fall behind your teammates when you do a crypto EMP push. yes even tho you did an instant 50 damage its still a 2v3 its still 2 guns vs 3 guns fight and your now running into the fight and every second your not there to help counts. The basekit for his banner pings is really good cause now you can camp in a building and just throw your drone and auto pings banner with out the risk of flying your drone out and helps streamline his gameplay more. Big W buff for crypto giving crypto something when he loses his drone is better than nothing. Crypto is the most useless when his drone is destroyed.

  • @dzonymielony5
    @dzonymielony5 Před měsícem +1

    Can't believe you didn't mention (or just missed it completely, even though the reticle has changed lol) the most important change to the devo, which is hipfire getting better as you keep on firing!

  • @ianhargrove7813
    @ianhargrove7813 Před měsícem

    So with each level, do you just get an upgraded scope and upgraded everything to the gun?

  • @Swiftrootsdadudu
    @Swiftrootsdadudu Před měsícem +4

    Can condiut stack 4 batts with yellow backpack + new perk now?

    • @ViolentKinks
      @ViolentKinks Před měsícem

      That's my whole thing... I wish he would've shown what that looked like

  • @TheSeghy
    @TheSeghy Před měsícem +3

    I think Bloodhound got hit with a pretty hard nerf. It seems like they won't get to extend their ult when getting knocks... Unless you choose the perk for it.
    Octane is going to be insane, - 10 dmg per stim is absolutely crazy, just like he used to be before
    Ballistic is going to be nuts you can use an Ar an Smg and also a shotty or a sniper, all fully kitted
    I am so hyped about these changes

    • @kirbyholic24
      @kirbyholic24 Před měsícem

      Octane already had -10 dmg per stim as a tier 2 perk, this new change is a nerf

    • @brandonhenriquez3366
      @brandonhenriquez3366 Před měsícem

      it wasn’t -10 buggin it was only 15% less damage from stim

    • @TheSeghy
      @TheSeghy Před měsícem

      @@brandonhenriquez3366 actually it was - 25% which goes from minus 20 health to minus 15 health per stim
      And now you can get to stim - 10 health if you use both perks

  • @ThatGuyZeb
    @ThatGuyZeb Před měsícem

    When in the drone, the champion banners around the map show the number of squads within the drone's range. Now while playing Crypto he sees that info in the banners even while not in the drone.

  • @criticolehits5766
    @criticolehits5766 Před měsícem +1

    It looks like the new Sling perks for Ballistic is the same as the rampart mods as far as sights go. ARs and LMGs come with a bruiser, etc. Just no paintballs lol

  • @FIZZ1X
    @FIZZ1X Před měsícem +22

    Removed the digi completely yet left AA unchanged. Classic Respawn moment.

    • @PawiYT
      @PawiYT Před měsícem +2

      Cope. Triple MNK won ALGS. Get better

    • @TheZerro95
      @TheZerro95 Před měsícem +3

      Def skill issue comment

    • @DrColdReality
      @DrColdReality Před měsícem +1

      I bet you both are controller players

    • @FIZZ1X
      @FIZZ1X Před měsícem +1

      @@DrColdReality On God

    • @zeronin4696
      @zeronin4696 Před 29 dny

      @@PawiYT triple mnk won coz the smoke meta fricked AA abusers. Maybe you guys should get better without AA?

  • @FluffedUpMaverick
    @FluffedUpMaverick Před měsícem +5

    tbh Cat's rebuilding doors need new custom model, it looks so unfinished xd

    • @cbasa97
      @cbasa97 Před měsícem +2

      I'm just happy it's not a cat nerf this season like the last 2

  • @Retoarikal
    @Retoarikal Před měsícem +2

    bloodhound was nerfed to requiring the perk in order to extend the ult now, similar to his ravens giving ult charge before the perk system and they replaced the smaller tac cd upgrade

    • @omegapuppyttv
      @omegapuppyttv Před měsícem

      bloodhound is non-binary and uses they/them pronouns.

  • @LinxLied
    @LinxLied Před měsícem

    As for the crypto buff, I think the wording is saying that as you approach other squads or other squads approach you, the drone will update from no enemies in the area to one squad in the area and so on and so forth. Whether it’s stowed or out and active.

  • @Ballistic-vn6em
    @Ballistic-vn6em Před měsícem +9

    I think Cat is back and I couldn't be happier. What they did to this legend was criminal just because of her high pick rate in ALGS. We are not pros, we just wanna have fun she was perfect.

  • @lukeanderson5590
    @lukeanderson5590 Před měsícem +23

    Dazs, the bloodhound changes are both a buff and a nerf. They removed the purple perk that reduced tactical cooldown by 5 second (too many scans was too oppressive) and replaced it with that new perk that extends the uptime of the ultimate on knocks. The buff was to the second purple perk, it currently heals 25 HP per knockdown but your footage shows it healing 50 HP per knockdown.

    • @Chilltime4
      @Chilltime4 Před měsícem +21

      Didn’t his ult get extended by getting knocks before and now it’s a perk that’s kinda a nerf I think

    • @thiccboi3812
      @thiccboi3812 Před měsícem

      ​@@Chilltime4that's a nerf definitely

    • @kj_usa2987
      @kj_usa2987 Před měsícem +1

      Yes

    • @Takeo_67
      @Takeo_67 Před měsícem +1

      ​​​​@@Chilltime4 right now the time you get back on knock is based on how much time is left on your ultimate, I hope this one stays and the perk just gives him a base of 5 seconds or something. If they remove the knock passive which he has right now in exchange for this perk, he's completely nerfed. Is he really that strong right now?

    • @lowdopamine1619
      @lowdopamine1619 Před měsícem +1

      @@Takeo_67every single team in Algs runs him except like 2 he’s the strongest legend fs

  • @colyrne
    @colyrne Před měsícem

    These changes look WILD and I'm excited to play it next week 😍

  • @MrMastrmonstr
    @MrMastrmonstr Před měsícem +1

    Oh my main is eating GOOOD im gonna be popping off as crypto it seems they took my feedback on the survey to heart

  • @vivelalunaenamorada
    @vivelalunaenamorada Před měsícem +4

    nahh the kit change for cat is dumb asff i use both long veil and sister spikes but now can only choose one??

    • @Ballistic-vn6em
      @Ballistic-vn6em Před měsícem +1

      Best change in this patch notes

    • @Pikkoroo
      @Pikkoroo Před měsícem

      ^

    • @Pikkoroo
      @Pikkoroo Před měsícem

      I do too and I don’t mind this at all you’ll still have the wall but now you choose, buffed wall or bunker down it’s way better tbh

    • @vivelalunaenamorada
      @vivelalunaenamorada Před měsícem

      @@Pikkoroo im js trying to have as much of her kit pre-massacre as i can 😞

  • @kusabutpen5418
    @kusabutpen5418 Před měsícem +4

    No changes on horizon lvl 2 trashy perk?

  • @ElHaydito
    @ElHaydito Před měsícem +2

    surely octane’s double -5 damage from stim upgrades stack up. that would be increasingly fun just spamming stims

  • @fabiocorrales5390
    @fabiocorrales5390 Před měsícem

    So for network traffic when yiu deploy the xrone crypto will say the qmou t if swuads nearby

  • @ForTheBroys
    @ForTheBroys Před měsícem +3

    Since they removed Digi threat, they need to bring Bangalores smoke to 15 seconds or more. Currently at 11 s because of the DT meta.
    It WAS at 18s per smoke. Now that DT is gone, they need to give her SOME smoke back 🏃🏾‍♀️💨🚀

    • @AcidMouse689
      @AcidMouse689 Před 29 dny

      The digital was the best counter to her smoke.. if that's gone I think they should put seer and bloodhounds scan durations back to more like how they were in s12/13 to add balance

  • @tevinhicks7285
    @tevinhicks7285 Před měsícem +4

    Why can’t they just make you and your teammates unaffected by emp, that’s all Crypto needs.

    • @HighShyGuy420
      @HighShyGuy420 Před měsícem

      Because coordinated teams roll people when there's no team/self effect and there's 0 counter play since emp can go through walls.

    • @tevinhicks7285
      @tevinhicks7285 Před měsícem

      @@HighShyGuy420 sure, but the emp area effect is so large, that by the time you can effectively get into the fight with them they have already healed. Unless you just pop it in an already chaotic situation.

    • @vividnightmare_
      @vividnightmare_ Před měsícem

      @@tevinhicks7285 a coordinated team knows when they opportunities to pop it and push right away, opportunities of which there are plenty of in ranked and competitive in situations where multiple teams are in one POI.

    • @Ballistic-vn6em
      @Ballistic-vn6em Před měsícem

      50dmg for free with no side effect is just op. Never gonna happen.

    • @tevinhicks7285
      @tevinhicks7285 Před měsícem

      @@Ballistic-vn6em well I mean with that aspect you could say half of the legends can’t do it. Vantage who does 50 per shot, fuse, maggie and then caustic and ash

  • @justjoddat
    @justjoddat Před měsícem +1

    when you ult, as ballistic, do the weapons that had digis in s20 get them on them? does wingman get skullpiercer? I know hemlock right now gets boosted loader, so curious how the ult interaction works with some guns

    • @zeronin4696
      @zeronin4696 Před měsícem +4

      Digi and skull pp are out of the loot pool. Did you even watch the video?

    • @mickjay933
      @mickjay933 Před měsícem

      No, they will not be added to the guns. Ballistic can’t get bonuses that aren’t in the loot pool.

  • @fauciliedbeaglesdied6537
    @fauciliedbeaglesdied6537 Před měsícem

    Does the wall actually block air strikes 2, or just grenades?

  • @FIZZ1X
    @FIZZ1X Před měsícem +11

    Conduit needs a big tactical change, it needs to be like how the Medigun works in Team Fortress 2. You must maintain line of sight (with a little wiggle room around corners and doors), you must actively hold the tactical to give sheilds, and you can't shoot while you're healing someone. The fact that Conduit can just give herself and a teammate essentially a free bat instantly through WALLS is ridiculous. In addition you shouldn't be able to use her ultimate indoors, like how Valk cant use her tactical indoors. Its just a one click Wattson nest that fills up an entire room with 200hp per battery.

    • @nicepotato5326
      @nicepotato5326 Před měsícem +3

      Conduit is really strong, but an instant shield bat is overestimating the ability then

    • @ericpaynestudio
      @ericpaynestudio Před měsícem +2

      I mean if we can teleport through walls now I don’t think it’s far fetched we get to shield through walls

    • @TheLsp2011
      @TheLsp2011 Před měsícem

      Relax, buddy, it’s a shield that regenerates at a moderate speed. If you land your head shots, you can still down the person pretty quickly.
      It’s not an instant shield bat. Also, she can only hit one teammate at a time.

    • @Xerolyst
      @Xerolyst Před měsícem

      Damn bruh just remove her from the game at this point you're not even trying to balance anything you just want her to die off as a legend

    • @Xerolyst
      @Xerolyst Před měsícem

      Sounds like a skill issue tho they don't need to nerf her or her ult she's balanced especially if someones running disruptor rounds alternator it's a wrap stop asking for nerfs and just improve your gameplay

  • @jemarshaw4986
    @jemarshaw4986 Před měsícem +3

    Next season is gonna be Vantage’s 7th season and she’s only ever gotten one change which was a extra bullet to her ult why the hell does she not get any love man 1 change in almost 2 years

    • @zeronin4696
      @zeronin4696 Před měsícem

      I mean shes one of the most boring legends to play imo. Her kit is alright they should just buff her hitbox and make it smaller

  • @ayzeeB
    @ayzeeB Před měsícem

    Whoa the Newcastle electrification used to be 2 minutes extra for the perk now it’s 3 minutes! Les go!

  • @TheoloGGamer
    @TheoloGGamer Před měsícem

    does the conduit change stack with deep pockets?

  • @isiahaguilar
    @isiahaguilar Před měsícem +3

    I think watson is the only character with a lot of counterplay and respawn is out to get her out of the game.
    Every season it feels like ever since watson was released, respawn is trying their best to delete watson without actually deleting her...directly like pylon limit,shield recharge limit, octane can jump over her fance,crpto can destroy everything she does,gibby disrupting her fences, mad maggie drill, valk can fly over her fences, horizon lifting above her fence, and indirectly like bad maps for her with lots of open area with barely any cover and now with legends straight up having on of her thing going for her being put to other legends.
    As much as i love playing her, shes really being put down so hard by the devs that at what point does playing her count as torture? They should really rework her, buffing her really wont do anything, even if they made her fence do health 30 health damage(regardless if they have shields or not) or make the enemy also get flashbanged if they get hit by the fence wont really do much. Proplay only makes her kit harder to balance because those people control the balancing of the game more than the players who are just playing for whatever reason :(

    • @readembersofnightredhorizo5822
      @readembersofnightredhorizo5822 Před měsícem

      Agree, now theres a new legend that literally brings her entire team through walls. Good luck ever holding anything with wattson again

    • @zainyousif7563
      @zainyousif7563 Před měsícem +1

      Bruh chill they kinda need to tune her down.
      I'm not sure if it's still up to date but I remember her being the legend with the highest win rate for the longest time , maybe still is not sure, because a good Watson player is just so impactful and oppressing if played right.

    • @BluShado45
      @BluShado45 Před měsícem +1

      Yeah so this issue is exactly what you explained at the end. One good buff and she is played in all ranked comps, all higher play and anywhere that she can be. That’s not an issue but then that leads to her getting supper nerfed when people start freaking out that “she’s op.” In general they need to lean in somewhere to give Wattson her own identity because it has been taken from her ult twice now. Conduit is Wattson if she was aggressive, and Newcastle has her ult just without shield regen which is often not the upside to it. Although she is a defensive legend, I’d say Wattson is very supportive. That doesn’t mean put her in support role and she has a different kit. I think she should either lean aggressively with her fences (not like a range buff, like maybe her nodes blow up when destroyed by enemies or because there are too many, and let Wattson auto detonate them or something). The other side of this would be supportive-defensive, which would work more toward her gen. She already has extra shield with a perk, so maybe farther ordinance removal range or more things to do for the team. I mean it’s an ult, and it needs an identity other than a better Newcastle wall…

    • @MudchopX
      @MudchopX Před měsícem +1

      @@zainyousif7563her win rate was only high because less people play her and so the top end of wattson players skewed it easier than other characters with more players

    • @zeronin4696
      @zeronin4696 Před měsícem

      ​@@zainyousif7563highest win rate overall means nothing to the legend. If 5000 horizons feed face in pubs it will look worse than 50 wattson players winning 8 games in one game.
      Horizon will still be a more comfortable legend to play with a bigger potential kit

  • @3nv-
    @3nv- Před měsícem

    So excited to hear wingmans back on the floor. Quit early last season because it felt miserable to get and once you had it half the lobby would hunt you for it😭 finally gonna be able to use my favourite gun reliably again.

  • @brettwoodcock7997
    @brettwoodcock7997 Před měsícem

    watching the banners change in the background as you throw out the crypto drone and say u don’t know what it means was pretty comical lol

  • @yanggerz
    @yanggerz Před měsícem +1

    for bloody its his purple perks, it used to do 25hp instead of 50 and the other upgrade, and the double scan duration was a purple instead of blue , his other blue upgrade was reduced tactical cooldown

    • @omegapuppyttv
      @omegapuppyttv Před měsícem

      bloodhound is non-binary and uses they/them pronouns.

  • @carterfn5939
    @carterfn5939 Před měsícem

    Bh had a cooldown reduction perk. They now removed that with a perk that he already had (increase duration with knocks and ult) is that no longer just part of his ult ?

  • @dronzer007
    @dronzer007 Před měsícem

    Catalyst might be back on some maps with that door building ability.
    Damn, there’s might be more Newcastle now in comps.

  • @rileygrindall1911
    @rileygrindall1911 Před měsícem

    Been playing ash since her heirloom...im so happy they finally added it🤧😭

  • @rejjie_thedeity
    @rejjie_thedeity Před měsícem

    I might go back to new castle after that update! Yoooooo

  • @solalala8602
    @solalala8602 Před měsícem

    the ash tac buff will be sick for making her feel less clunky in fights, the upgraded one is pretty obnoxious as well so im pretty excited about the buff. praying for some kind of buff for the ult to this day, maybe giving you the option of not going thru the portal but it still sounds like it could let for some outplays lol

  • @catpacksystem
    @catpacksystem Před měsícem

    Much needed buff for Crypto! :: D
    and catalyst and newcastle and ash = D
    loving all the buffs and nerfs 😻

  • @mist2498
    @mist2498 Před měsícem

    As a newcastle main. 👏🏻 niice. Finally some actual buffs

  • @tlbcanine3748
    @tlbcanine3748 Před měsícem

    If conduit has the 3 shields perk and the gold backpack, how many shields can she carry?

  • @jessmanp
    @jessmanp Před 29 dny

    So fascinating

  • @pretaxMTC
    @pretaxMTC Před měsícem

    Having a purple marksman or sniper at the end of the game makes ballistic pretty sick for ranked, running marksman smg/ar and shotgun

  • @catdog7497
    @catdog7497 Před měsícem +1

    nuuuuu haha every time i find a new gun i like they put it in the care pack 😆

  • @AncientRepublic
    @AncientRepublic Před měsícem +2

    Balistic its one of my main Legends , and i like it this perk , i think its very good , when i have volt riple take and havock , and suitch triple to the 3 weopon to have a chance using long range

    • @jupiterapollo4985
      @jupiterapollo4985 Před měsícem +1

      it's cool becuase now as we upgrade we are no longer forced to put OP upgradeble guns in the sling like the Havoc or Alternator. Everything gets buffed in the sling with upgrades even without the ultimate. Another cool thing is if Ballistic is respawned and is already upgraded, the player can just dump the primary weapon into the sling and get a fully kitted gun without having to scavenge around for attactments.

    • @AncientRepublic
      @AncientRepublic Před měsícem +3

      @@jupiterapollo4985 i think its a very good upgrade to balistic :)

  • @KellyJoule
    @KellyJoule Před měsícem +1

    If anything, I would think Fuse would have learned the Recon perk over the Controller perk as a way of saying Bloodhound taught him how to do it. Ring console feels so random lmao

  • @nico-qh5vv
    @nico-qh5vv Před měsícem +1

    YOOOO THIS SEASON IS BANGER

  • @fishgills8095
    @fishgills8095 Před měsícem +1

    Yes Newcastle wall blocks nades but does it block throwable ults like Watson ex bang gibby horizon caustic

  • @Fuar11
    @Fuar11 Před měsícem +2

    those Crypto changes are huge

  • @gunnercat8045
    @gunnercat8045 Před měsícem

    the crypto buff is quite interesting, now the level 3 first upgrade is integrated to his base kit, which is wonderful since originally when crypto doesn't have access to the "big banner", basically his passive (shows how many teams around crypto) would totally be useless.
    crypto was too dependent with the drone, and now with his new changes, he will be able to see the team around him without having to use drone, as long as the drone is out, u can see the number of team surround him, ALSO he would say it out how many teams are there

  • @catdog7497
    @catdog7497 Před měsícem

    so many beautiful and wonderful buffs omg

  • @zulkiers7302
    @zulkiers7302 Před 22 dny

    @Dazs
    Crypto and the banners
    when you cast the drone, I saw the banner above change
    normally you only see the banner change in drone view
    So now it appears Crypto himself can ping the banner to quip about how many squads are near while his drone it out
    That is cool
    I like that they put that one upgrade into his base kit, but they forgot to list it in the base kit

  • @chasekellar3943
    @chasekellar3943 Před měsícem

    I came back to the game this season and found out the digi was no longer allowed on smgs, that was upsetting as it was my favorite sight for them. And now that it’s being removed entirely is even more annoying to me

  • @sawtuthe9670
    @sawtuthe9670 Před měsícem

    Does anyone know if vantage needs any buffs/QoL changes? I've been playing her and everyone says shes the defintion of mid, some even just say she is bad... but I haven't seen her get any buffs in a while?

  • @cvVampria
    @cvVampria Před měsícem

    Finally. That Ash change was needed since a long time...

  • @laddiquintanilla300
    @laddiquintanilla300 Před měsícem

    A cool ash buff can be the lock onto an enemy in LOS and use the ult as an aggressive first push. You lock on, portal, and slash for like 25-50 dmg (whatever is balanced lol)

  • @ray-zs9df
    @ray-zs9df Před měsícem +1

    What about Wattson any change for her as Newcastle stole one of Wattsons abilities

  • @slayerofthhots314
    @slayerofthhots314 Před měsícem

    Whats the point of catalyst when you have alter just going into to building

  • @killerxXtacoXx
    @killerxXtacoXx Před měsícem

    Love the crypto buffs , makes the drone way more flexible in fights. and baking in the banner scan is magnifique

    • @killerxXtacoXx
      @killerxXtacoXx Před měsícem

      also octanes being able to stim and take absolutely no damage sounds great. Stim does 10 hp, so now we can stim in zone. Really underrated change

  • @Yukeeei
    @Yukeeei Před měsícem

    New rank meta Catalyst, Newcastle and alter. Time to get my pred team for next season.

  • @Baconlover5280
    @Baconlover5280 Před měsícem

    lol they brought back bloodhounds og ult were it extends the duration of it after a knock down. That was my favorite part about it and stopped using him as much when they removed it. Glad that’s back

  • @elijahpalmer7211
    @elijahpalmer7211 Před měsícem

    Crypto network expansion can call out how many enemies in an area which is so useful.

  • @seanm7410
    @seanm7410 Před 29 dny

    You missed a huge thing with crypto thats broken. When he deploys his drone all banners display teams near by without having to be in drone.

  • @Ayce_nothome
    @Ayce_nothome Před měsícem

    Bloodhound L3 perk was 25 hp per knock while in the ULT. changed to 50

  • @AncientRepublic
    @AncientRepublic Před měsícem

    Very nice

  • @breezeless_7665
    @breezeless_7665 Před měsícem

    Does Conduit 3 bats stack with Gold backpack? That would be insane

  • @GalvatronPs
    @GalvatronPs Před měsícem

    Crypto basically gets to see how many squads is near him without being in drone.

  • @delightedbylight9893
    @delightedbylight9893 Před měsícem

    Thx u for the video.
    What's up with 299 fps uncapped ?
    You were that guy that prefers stable 144fps as i remember, not 240-250-270-299 and so on.+ - + - and chaotic 1%lows.
    You playing on other pc or you upgradded your gpu ?🎉

  • @kyliunv3618
    @kyliunv3618 Před měsícem

    As a bloodhound main im happy they brought back the ultimate duration after a knock