Infidelity Onscreen: Why We Just Love Watching Cheaters
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- Infidelity is one of the most traumatic, heartbreaking experiences someone in a romantic partnership can go through, so why does it often get glamorized on screen? Our culture seems obsessed with cheating as a concept - with entire shows based around it. And in real life cheating scandals, we live for the drama. Adam Levine, The Try Guys, Good Morning America hosts Amy Robach and TJ Holmes - these stories compel us because we see the mask of celebrity slip, and we’re able to view these people through a different lens. Here’s our take on the popularity of infidelity stories, why they’re so entertaining, and how more nuanced portrayals of cheating show us that it’s not always so black and white.
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00:00 Infidelity onscreen tends to be pretty... sexy
01:10 When when we root for the affair
03:59 The gendered divide when a man or woman cheats
06:41 The painful reality of infidelity
09:34 Infidelity is common and nuanced - Zábava
WATCH MORE - After the affair often comes a lot of grief. Here's our Take on how the five stages are portrayed and how accurate they are to reality: czcams.com/video/UDNR4jc3ukE/video.html
When women cheat they get a pass. You haven't said anymore more true.
In fact women are more likely to cheat
They usually have to make the person that's being cheated on look like a very bad person so people won't feel sorry for that person.
Which doesnt really help since the cheater should just break up with them instead of trying to have their cake and eat it too
When women cheat they get a pass.
@@Chris-rg6nm I thought women get sent to meet their maker most of the time. I see weird women fight over the men that cheat AND the dumb woman takes care of the outside baby!💀
Oh, I _hate_ that. It's so manipulative on the part of the storyteller, like they assume we can't tell why they wrote it that way. Even though we can, and it's clearly to make the cheater seem justified in their actions.
Yeah, but also, when men cheat we tend to blame "the other woman," knowing full well he knows what he's doing. He gave in to "his nature," and she's "a homewrecker."
For real
Fatal Attraction in a nutshell
Apparently, people still haven’t figured out that it takes two people to cheat.
Notice how it’s always women getting the blame for everything never men yet men say women don’t take accountability 🤔
Yeah. A super good example of this is in Euphoria when Nate sleeps with Cassie. Nate tells Cassie its her fault that she slept with him despite him also allowing it. He lacks accountability for his actions
As someone who has been cheated on, I really hate seeing cheating being praised in movies. They especially do this with love triangles where the main character cheats on her spouse for the “ love of her life “ and they make it seem like it’s ok because they are “ soul mates destined to be together “. They never think about how it affects the person that’s being cheated on. For me, I caught my ex( then boyfriend ) best friend sneaking into his room through his window late at night. I was there for him and supported him even when he lost his job. I even loaned him money and he turned around and cheated on me and never paid me back. If this was a movie, people would be rooting for my ex and his best friend and I would simply be the girl standing in the way of “ their love “. 🙄
Sounds like he was a total ungrateful moocher.
The Notebook is basically this.
"Jim and Pam" 🙄 Sorry that happened to you!
Agreed
People who romanticizes cheating should read some stories from reddit. Some are so gut wrenching that they live in your mind rent free.
For whatever reason a person has, cheating is still Not right. Sure relationships can be complicated it's still not an excuse to cheat whatever your sexuality is. Communication is still the best thing to do when u feel like your relationship is starting to crash.
A friend of mine took his own life when he was 16, and he was stuck living with his mom and her husband, aka the person she was having an affair with. He did it on her birthday the day before they got into an argument, and he gave her an ultimatum. Next morning he did it, he stole sleeping pills.
@@K1ng1995 oh my gosh. That’s so sad to hear. He deserved better.
Even in open relationships, people can still cheat once they go past their rules and don’t tell the person.
@bubble girl She claimed to love him, but every time he went there, he never got one on one time with her. Every activity had to include her husband, their two daughters. He tried asking her why she cheated, and her response was, "Try and focus on the now" at the funeral I admit I got so pissed off at her for showing up with her husband. I punched her right in the face hard.
Not to mention cheating is almost never accidental. One person at least knows they're in a relationship. It is a choice at every step.
I really hate when the writers expect the audience to root for cheating, it doesn't work on me and it just feels like someone on the writer´s room cheated in the past and wants to excuse themselves
It's like the reason I don't like Vampire stories. For some reason they make them have links to Confederate soldiers. Vampire Diaries, Twilight, True Blood have the heroes be in the Confederacy (Damon Salavadore, Jasper Cullen and Bill). I mean I am curious about them but they could easily change them to fight for the Union.
Precisely, even if they claim that they only cheated because they were lonely, and their partner was away all the time, they could have tried to communicate that better than hooking up with someone else.
Yes EXACTLY. Like we are grossed out and can see we're being manipulated to agree
Yh that’s the issue I have with the video. A big part of the effect of something like white lotus is how the audience doesn’t want Aubrey Plaza’s character to have an affair and is then taken aback by her husbands actions
I like when we see that they're human. When we see the good in them but also not making excuses for the cheating. It's rare that it happens on TV or movies but I love when characters are human, sometimes they're just assholes, sometimes they really didn't mean any malicious intent.
Cheating is a betrayal. It doesn't matter what the reasons are. If a person is unhappy in the relationship, either physically, emotionally, or even financially; the right thing to do is end the relationship or work on it to save it.
It's never easy, there will be anger, crying, hurting, and resentment but, in the long run it will be for the best of the couple.
You lost me at resentment lol. Thats a relationship that is not worth saving 😬
I feel like there are different circumstances when abuse is involved.
@@squidwardtentacles7144 No. Abuse isn't an excuse either. If you are being abused, you should seek help from resources and whatnot, not start an affair.
@@atheon596 true
There is only one situation where I can understand someone cheating on their partner: if someone is not allowed to leave a relationship, if someone is being held against their will in that relationship. Other reasons are excuses, like being bored with their partner, then let your partner know and separate first.
Agreed! Or if the relationship is unhealthy, which is why I wouldn't really add Rose from Titanic on a cheating video. Technically she cheated, but he was a monster & she couldn't free herself from him.
@@pixiebells exactly, abuse doesn't count as a relationship.
@@pixiebells i would add it doesn’t count either in relationships with narcissists . Some of those people are poison…poison and the cheating can be done as an act of revenge for the abuse.
@@ms.shineray Hey, I do agree with you and I know you probably didn't mean it in this way but just a friendly PSA, Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) is a real thing and not everyone who suffers with it is a terrible person or "poison".
@@nolav9280 yes, probably shouldn't have generalized. Gonna try to fix the wording of it. Also i know it's real my mom is one a vulnerable one and she made my years living under her roof a living hell so much so that at 13 i was tired and wanting to off myself and to put the cherry on the pie she married one. My siblings both got depression from living with those people and i go out but i have to hear from time to time how they are still smearing me. So that is why i said that.
Yeah...I'm not very sympathetic to people who cheat on their partner(s).
Actually, once I was reading a book, a fictional adventure with HG Wells as the main character. I stopped when they described his first marriage, saying how his first wife was just a housewife with no great ambitions, she wasn't as smart or imaginative as him. I had to stop reading because it made it sound like the marriage failed because of her. She wasn't enough for him, but his current partner was.
Yeah, I had a problem with that. Especially since this was the time when I witnessed a relationship fall apart because of infidelity.
Cheating isn't entertaining when you know full well the pain and trauma it causes.
Preach, Wells' first wife seemed nice enough, but because she's considered to be less adventurous than him, she's easily brushed aside by the narrative.
@@trinaq also, this was during the Victorian era, where divorce wasn't just a scandal but one that really hurts the ex wife. So people may have blamed her in addition to losing income.
People should read from the infidelity subs on reddit more.
No one has a perfect love life. If you are having issues, talk about it like mature adults. Don't sneak around and hide an affair. I understand that couples can grow apart and you can hit ruts, but don't hurt the person you're supposed to be committed to by putting them through that kind of emotional pain and anxiety.
i will never fully grasp the concept of "cheating is okay, if it is with your real love" i mean.. your partner still thinks they are your real love, right? and you chose freely to be with them? so why not have the balls to break up, before something happens?
Cheating is a very cheap thrill. It shows you that you don’t have control of your life anymore. If you cheat, please go to therapy. Don’t blame everybody else. And please don’t complain if your partner leaves you don’t wine and cry to other people…. It’s your fault. If you burn down your house don’t complain about the ashes.
I hate watching cheaters but they put them in every movie these days, if I watched that in my teens, I’d probably think that cheating is more normal than monogamy tbh
Ikr and i hate it
I've noticed that in a lot of Nicholas Sparks stories, if the protagonist's partner cheated on them in the past, they're typically portrayed as completely irredeemable. However, if the lead cheats on their partner with their love interest, as shown in "The Choice", "The Notebook" or "The Best of Me", then it's true love, even if the partner is genuinely nice.
If you willing agreed to be part of monogamous relationship, don't cheat; the reason doesn't matter.
It is interesting to compare/contrast how cheating is portrayed when the main character is a cheater vs when they get cheated on. The main character almost always gets a pass: "oh they're unhappy, oh they're unappreciated, oh they are trapped in their relationship." But when someone does it to the main character, it's almost always portrayed as a complete betrayal that fractures the main character's ability to trust their partner and other people.
There are shades of course, but the thing is that the shades are almost never explored in the story.
I believe it's called main character syndrome
White Lotus glamorised infidelity? I thought it was the opposite. They showed how damaging it is to relationships, and how heartbreaking and traumatic it can be for the person being cheated on.
I hate how they normalize men cheating on TV. It gives me anxiety
I was surprised to not see the movie "Something borrowed" in the video.
It is one of the prime examples where we are supposed to not only emphasize for the cheating, but actively root for the two cheaters to get together because they were meant to.
It actually was the first film that came to my mind. I remember first watching it and getting mixed feelings for Kate Hudson’s character even though she didn’t deserve to be cheated on.
@@halahalahala2015 it was revealed that she also cheated on the fiance so I don't feel sorry for her character. If anything you shouldn't be rooting for any of the characters besides maybe halpert's character.
I see cheating treated so black and white in social media. But I’ve lived a lot of life, been cheated on, seen a lot of couples break up and the conclusion I’ve come to is that cheating is never the core issue in a relationship or the reason a relationship breaks down, it’s a symptom of the deeper issues.
Quick fact correction. The report that 50-55% of marriages have a partner be involved in an affair is often criticised as a study for its small focus group. Most data points to it being 20-40% of men and 20%-25% of women. Still a high number but not as extreme.
Any self reported data in itself has a wild likelihood for flawed methodological error, regardless of the dataset.
Cheating is never okay, I can't get invested in stories that romanticize such a gross behavior
i'm sorry, but everyone already knew before the crown that charles wanted to be with camilla it was part of the reason he got so much hate because he chose his inheritance over his supposed love, but didn't actually stick to the decision. He was selfish and decided to keep on with the affair not really giving his marriage a fair shot. Unless I'm missing something this is not an example of complicated situation. If he was an only child, sure okay, complicated, but he wasn't so no complications just selfish choices.
i'm glad you brought this topic of the Diana-Charles-Camilla royal love triangle.
Most media (movies, tv shows, books, even anime etc. etc.) portrays some partners (boyfriend or girlfriend, husband or wife) cheating or having an intense affair behind their spouses' backs because *clear throat* "they belong together coz they're soulmates and more chemistry than their previous partner" while the partner themselves got stereotyped as "the one that got on their way" or "the partner is the bad guy that gonna sink the ship!" 🙄
Now, we knew how the Charles and Camilla royal scandal affected Diana and public view. This is a great real-life example of how it horribly _deconstruct_ this supporting-the-cheater(s) issue.
No....Carrie cheating on Aidan was not excusable.
So many stories seem to kick off with the protagonist's partner cheating on them, usually by having them walk in on them unexpectedly, freeing them up to be with their actual love interest. While it's not an inherently bad trope, it seems to be too overdone by now. Surely there could be other methods of shaking up the main character's life than cheating, such as discovering that their entire life has been based on a lie.
"Surely there could be other methods of shaking up the main character's life than cheating, such as discovering that their entire life has been based on a lie."
Hasn't this trope also been overdone?
We like to watch it and see how the story unfolds, but we don't want it to happen to us.
In fact women are more likely to cheat
Blaming anyone but the cheater is the same as blaming the silverware for your health.
Infidelity is such a complex concept to grasp because although it is wrong for very obvious reasons, it is a spectrum of behaviours. It’s just not restricted to one type of behaviour.
My conclusion: I'm just gonna stay single!
I don't know, but isn't it a bit unfair to use footage of Rose in Titanic as an example of women cheating? After all, the 'relationship' she was in is clearly shown to have been completely against her will.
I don't like this trope. It often just feels like a lazy way to insert drama. I loved 'This Is Us' because it was always entertaining and had plenty of drama and not a single ounce of it was anyone cheating. If a show has to resort to cheating, or even the potential desire to cheat, in order to make its show entertaining... its writers have failed the characters and the audience. Do better.
Oof the guilt would just destroy me. I feel like this is the type of trope that could mislead a naive person into thinking cheating can be harmless and hot. I can't imagine waking up one morning and it hitting me that I cheated on my husband. It's gotta be a brutal feeling. And of course is brutal for the partner being cheated on too.
In my opinion this trope is usually lazy writing. Cheating is a breach of trust, is non consensual and can be downright traumatic regardless of gender.
You forgot to mention Steve cheating on Miranda in sex and the city. She blames him for breaking them and makes him feel guilty like he’s a piece of sh1t, but the double standard when she cheats on him repeatedly with che turns out she wasn’t cheating she was just finding her true love.
👏👏👏👏
Cheating, like sexual assault, is always the men’s fault. Women can’t cheat. Women never rape people.
Infidelity is glamorous as long as your SO doesn't do it 🤣🤣
I’ll be damned. Someone finally called out the gender imbalance of how infidelity is portrayed in pop culture, and it was this channel that did it. Kudos to you on that. Never thought I’d see the day!
Carrie cheating on Aiden is NEVER given a pass.
"Why we just love watching cheaters?" Who is we? It's one of the most hated tropes.
If Ned didn't make his whole brand and personality his wife with kids . I don't think it would have been a big deal.
Nobody loves watching cheaters... Hollywood simply makes a story out of it because it creates good drama...and good drama = money. People like watching stories.
The recent adaptation of Lady Chatterly's lover got me so much even eventhough the story holds infedility. It's sad, but that film was beautiful
I’m pretty sure no one thinks cheating is “romantic”. But if you wanna tell on yourself, go head.
When it comes to "news" about people cheating I just found it very cringe and I don't want to know about it. That's why I don't pay attention to gossip media.
Cheating in most cases isn't complicated at all. Attraction and desire are normal. The complications don't arise until the cheater tries to make excuses for their betrayal. And when the person who was betrayed tries to rebuild their self-esteem and the relationship as a whole. It's usually best (although extremely difficult) to end the relationship and move on as quickly as possible.
Cheating is not complicated for shitty people with no values. If you know you will potentially desire different people to the point to break someone trust and self esteem, just stay single or in a open relatioship. The rest is an excuse :)
I hate that so many examples in movies are negative, they should show people that do care about others.
All cheating is awful
This comment section is about to get really disconcerting really quick
I'm getting the popcorn ready
I'm sorry but I'll never forgive Carrie for cheating on Aidan, litteraly a SAINT
Personally I like seeing cheaters get punished and how even nice normal people can break into doing something so selfish. My favorites are revenge plots that end in murder or general life ruining for the cheater
Who's we?
On an unrelated note, thanks for asking about future topics on the community comment section. Hoping for a take on the tortured artist trope.
Bruh infidelity is cringe. Anyone who has the hots for it don't know what it's like on the other side.
Of all the tropes you guys have criticized for their negative influences on society, the fact that *infidelity* of all things, is getting defended is WILD to me.
In any case, it always seemed to me the like reverse of what was said, and men are given more passes for cheating, but when women do it, it's unforgivable. We've seen characters have those conversations. Because for men, it's often meaningless, but for women there's often more feelings involved.
Either way, this is one trope that usually makes me lose respect for a character when they do it. It's rare when I find an instance where its justified, beyond the writers' own salaciousness. So it may be the reason I stay away from genres where cheating is the first step to a happy ending (many rom coms) and prefer it handled seriously like the betrayals they are (Revolutionary Road, The Affair, A Teacher)
I hate it. When you find a mate in life be loyal or in some cases , grateful
I remember seeing another CZcams video which highlights how infidelity is often used by screen writers as a plot device.
When a man gets cheated on it often serves to expose his own flaws, and it becomes a reason for him to turn his life around and go on an emotional journey. When a woman gets cheated on, it's often because her boyfriend is a douche, and then she can leave him for the right guy without feeling guilty.
A lot of soap operas (teleseryes) in the Philippines usually involves infidelity. "The Legal Wife" is one of them, it was hyped up so much especially when it was the episode where the wife and the mistress had a cat fight (literally pulling each other's hair, yelling). That show was one of the highest rated teleseryes when it was leading up to the ep of the catfight.
You like the drama but eventually you'll get desensitized with infidelity. Movies and tv shows about this topic makes this abnormal thing normal. Just my 2 cents though
The only movie cheating I excuse is Rose and Jack in Titanic for several reasons: it barely even feels like cheating because she doesn’t even wanna be with Cal and also he f***ing sucks and I physically CANNOT feel sorry for him, he’s insane.
Also it’s my favorite movie of all time ❤
Cheating hurts , that's all ..when it happens to you , you don't see complications ..it keeps on hurting
“We” enjoy watching infidelity onscreen? Who is we? Are you talking in French?
9:01 We had an Indian (Hindi language) version of ‘Cheaters’ called ‘Emotional ATYACHAAR’ and it was quite iconic. Obviously not the cheating part, that’s upsetting.
A really great film about cheating and asking 'What is infidelity?' is a film called Last Night. It has Keira Knightley and Sam Worthington in it. I loved it so much! It was like watching a play on film....
It’s crazy to me that they said men get judged for cheating more then women.When in reality it’s completely not like that😭I thought it’s very obvious
I guess it depends on the culture.
The video is only referencing film and television. The question is posed: Why do these media sources create (sometimes) two different sets of standards? There also appears to be an implied yearning by The Take to make it more representative of real-life.
No it's the way they said
"Why We Just Love Watching Cheaters" WE!!?? I hate those movies.
There's nothing entertaining about it. Maybe people whole get involve in infidelity can enjoy and relate to it
7:57 I thought ‘The Crown’ handled it quite well. It was more systemic failure than blaming a person.
its an instant turn off anytime there is cheating done by the main characters. I will immediately drop it. Once there is cheating between characters, its not the same anymore. just no thanks.
The Take: “isn’t cheating hot and cool?”
The comments: “the council will decide your fate”
It feels like there could be an even bigger conversation around monogamy and long term relationships
Not really. It really just boils down to trust. We view cheating as bad because trust was broken. You enter a "trust agreement" when you decide to become exclusive with someone. Either party cheats and that trust is broken.
@@heynodont Okay but "becoming exclusive" with someone is literally monogamy. I was making a comment on expanding the conversation and your response is no?
@@unperfectperfectionist I agree they’re simplifying the conversation. Maybe monogamy and ltr isn’t for everyone but society forces it down our throats. Also alot of partners guilt trip each other into staying with them. So you can’t break up with them bc that makes you that still makes you the bad guy. *check out the video of the girl that screamed like a banshee, lost her mind on a flight, and had to be restrained when her bf broke up with her.
@@Jennifer-wc5fs "forces" lol
@@unperfectperfectionist @Jennifer That's exactly why I worded my comment the way I did. I'm not talking about open relationships; if that works for you and your partner, great! If that's what both of you have *discussed and agreed* upon. I'm talking about monogamy and LTR. No one's "forcing" you into monogamy and LTR. You can find a partner that's ok with being in an open relationship. The key is that you both agree on what you want. If y'all didn't agree to being exclusive, then there's no problem seeing other people. However, if y'all decided to be exclusive, and one party decides to start seeing other people behind their partner's back, then that's a problem because you're breaking the agreement.
And even in open relationships, there are "limits", boundaries that you or your partner may not feel comfortable with either of you crossing. But, again, it all boils down to what you discussed and agreed upon; to what your partner is *trusting you* to stay true to.
I say this as someone that's been in both types of relationships.
There is a Korean drama film called "A Man and A Woman" (starring Gong Yoo) and it takes an interesting look at cheaters and why some people end up doing what they do. And the game "Catherine"!
I think the Korean film is a remake of a French film
although I'm not sure, if it's even alright to suggest this for The Take, to make a video essay on it, basically it can be for a later time, I just hope they'll consider covering how domestic abuse stories have been represented in media, basically I can understand that at least talking about it, is a real start, however it feels like physical abuse gets more attention, when there's still emotional abuse, mental abuse &psychological abuse, that horrible people have put others through,
Some reserach I read a while back explored gender differences in how men vs women tend to cheat and it went like this: Men tend to cheat because they are unhappy, usually emiotnally negelgceted by their wives, but are still willing to stay. Women tend to cheat to leave you, and they're building a life without you first (monkey branching). I think that's useful info to have in accordance with this video. Thanks again for the great content!
This is so interesting that this video popped up when I was just listening to the State of Affairs Rethinking Infidelity by Esther Perel I think the conclusions & thoughts in that book would be useful in this video. It made me look differently at infidelity although I kept some of my original judgements. Also it’s actually a really engaging & great read. Oh but I have to say prince Charles & Camilla will always be trash AF lol.
What was the book’s conclusion?
Charles and Camilla were TRASH because they knew they were still going to hook up, and brought an innocent 3rd party into their bull shit. Now if they were up front with Diana about their relationship, then she could have made the informed choice not to marry the man and he could find someone else that would've been cool with the title of Princess and let them do their business. The lying, gaslighting, manipulation and lack of consent that's the big problem with cheating.
I would be curious to read her book...I thought that her Ted Talk was very good (the comments ABOUT the Ted Talk indicated not a lot of people are ready to rethink infidelity) I found what she was saying, i don't know, mature and allowing for the messiness of being human.
Irl, there’s nothing pretty about getting cheated on.
Omg, I love that you mentioned In The Mood For Love. I looove this movie. Not enough people talk about it, and the music in this.. sigh. Love.
I dont. I hate when is gets glamorize. Especially in Shonda Rhymes shows. And I hate it even more when thye end up together and victim party shown as understanding. Also just coz it was shown in the show doesn't mean that's what happened to Charles and Camilla. She married someone else. She wasn't even that serious about him. And nothing gives him the right to destroy a young girl. He could have easily talked to her explained his situation and tried to work a adjustment for all of them.
There's nothing great about cheating and why people love seeing it is really disgusting.
Oh my God! You guys actually did it. After I asked for 2 years! Thank you!!
this portrayal of cheating works because the infidelity is fictional and no real people are getting hurt and an audience is entertained. but irl of course cheating is unacceptable 100%.
I remember this movie I watched they had Richard Gere in it where his wife was getting dug out by this French Gaelic guy. Whoever knew a snow globe could be a weapon of mass destruction.
Unfaithful
We love celebrity infidelity scandals because it makes famous people look similar to us.
Who loves this??? 🤨🤨 definitely not me.
*sees title*
We do?
I really like deep dives into this topic. I am going to share this video because the discussions are going to be spicy 12/10🌶️🌶️🌶️
On another note, I wish they would have explored cheating in other dynamics too. Like infidelity in arranged marriages, for example. I can understand cheating in movies like Unorthodox or Circumstance because those are marriages that I'm used to. I cannot understand why someone in a "typical", middle-American relationship would cheat especially as these relationships don't have the religious-cultural issues that others have.
I have a hard time buying all of the self-righteousness in these comments. In real life many people - especially people who often consider themselves morally superior to others - cause immense emotional pain to their partners and even destroy them completely through their own intimacy avoidance, self-absorption, indifference and deceit without ever having an affair at all.
How the real life _deconstruct_ this whole "rooting-for-the-cheaters-because-they-are-soulmates" + "the-one-that-got-cheated-on-is-the-villain", let's take one great example:
*Diana-Charles-Camilla* love triangle. Nuff' said.
I don't see a need to cheat, never have, just leave the relationship! Lmao! I've left someone I had a child with so don't use kids as an excuse to stick around while you sleep with other people. It's disgusting 😒
And I've been a mistress, it's disgusting. Just find a person who's single and start fresh! It took me years to get over the hurt I caused and had to endure my own hurt (karma!) So trust me, just leave a relationship if you want to cheat and DONT become a mistress!
Nope, I for one do not enjoy watching this type of thing
I’m a woman and a Feminist in a lot of aspects but it’s refreshing to see your channel sympathizing with men
As a woman and a feminist, everyone should be able to sympathize with men because most of them are suppressed and oppressed by the same patriarchy that does that to us women.
Most sexology studies show monogamy isn't our natural state. It makes sense that cheating narratives somehow speak to that, even if it's playing to it in a most unethical and dramatic way. Who would watch a film in which the characters agree to other sexual or romantic partners and there is no drama? People who don't like it just wouldn't accept without said drama, and for people who do....still no drama.
Love tha analysis but I hate watching cheating in media . It’s puts me off a show when it’s normalized within the show. It’s pretty disgusting
Now that women’s infidelity isn’t as secret as it used to be, let’s not get so dramatic about infidelity, seems to be the message of this video.
As the great Stugotz once said during his Weekend Observations:
"Rose, you don't deserve to go to the gilded Titanic in the sky, you deserve to go to a rust-covered wreck in Hell, where Art Briles is the cruise director."
Nothing like a sports radio show that will spend nearly an entire 3 hour block discussing Titanic during draft week.
cheating is wrong doesn't matter who does it and you apologise for it not blame the 3rd party or your partner or your situations you are the one who did wrong and you will go to the ends of the world if necessary to get forgiveness and if not stay the hell away from your ex partner
One movie that I think takes a pretty deep look into infidelity at least for both genders is 2007 Little Children. In this film we have Kate Winslet and Patrick Wilson as next door neighbors who are both stay at home parents that are neglected by their spouses who are busy with their careers. The two of them don't begin their affair out of boredom or lust or even a need for sexual intimacy. They got to know each other as they would often cross paths during their daily routines and their children would play together. As a result they formed a strong bond and attraction for each other, which eventually resulted in them sleeping together. Despite feeling guilty about cheating on their significant other, they carry on with the affair and at one point they even consider running away together near the end of the movie. I think this movie does a good job of showing that adultery isn't always a malicious act that's borne out of hatred or indifference towards one's life partner. These two characters know they are wronging their better half and feel shame for this act of betrayal but at the same time they feel closer with each other than with their actual spouses.
I don’t think anyone sympathises with carrie
Sadly these juicy cheating stories are as old as they get. Just ask the gods of Greco Roman mythology!
Also there are the famous Arthurian romances with Tristan and Isolde and of course Lancelot and Guinevere.
Because of the concept of courtly love the writers lauded these romances because of how it was perceived just loving someone because you’re in love could inspire nobility in knights and gave women a sense of power and escape in their times, but the marriage/ other relationship barriers make this love untrainable and thus so beautiful.
recently i've rewatched fatal attraction (1987) and unfaithful (2002) multiple times almost as kind of a meditation. unfaithful is so subtly yet profoundly tragic. i guess i'm thinking/hoping that rewatching these movies can somehow explicitly/implicitly tell me something about how to avoid finding myself in a cheating situation
also about how to be more intentional in relationships and take them seriously and treat relationships and the people i have relationships with with more respect and consideration 💯
Tyler Perry's Confessions of a Marriage Counselor, Will Smith's character in Enemy of the State, Waiting to Exhale, Maya from Girlfriends.
„Infidelity Onscreen“ kind of sums up Greta Garbo’s film career . „Flesh and the Devil“, „Love“, „Conquest“, „The Painted Veil“, „Anna Karenina“ , „A Woman of Affairs“, „The Single Standard“… yet not a single mention.
1:16 If you do not react strongly to this scene, you don’t have a heart.
I don’t sympathize with cheaters. Ever.
Wow so glad to see this covered ! Wish you can cover The Affair as well ! Also hindi movies like Aitraaz etc are also some.movies you can talk about if you are willing to explore other language movies. I think "Closer" movie in Hollywood is also a movie regarding cheating. Another one is "Blue is the warmest color" but I didn't really like it much.
Worth is a great example you took though. Such a heartbreaking thing for a wife who's dead husband was cheating on her had to face