I paused the vid every few seconds to study the key landmarks. What impressed me was the durability of structures over the years. Here in the USA, often if a structure is 25 years old, it's torn down and rebuilt.
A lot of the bridges date back to the Victorian times when the railways were first built. They're a testament to the designers and builders that they've lasted so long.
Very interesting view; seems an incredible thing to do to synchronise it like that. I do have the original on disc; there was some firm that was selling it. I remember that in the fifties when it came on the telly it was sensational!
A few notable sights: 1:34 Coulsdon North. It closed in 1983 after years of neglect. 2:11 (Current) Gatwick Airport station 2:13 (Old) Gatwick Airport station 2:18 Three Bridges station has a line to Tunbridge Wells branching off to the left
For some reason what sticks in many peoples' minds is the theme music from the 1980s version when asked. Remember this like yesterday being 10 when it showed on BBC2!
The most fun I've ever had on CZcams! Judicious use of the space bar gets you stopped at every station which is a better way to test the syncing than the "Bucha effect" inducing trying to watch both at once.. Cheers Aunty.
I remember seeing the first one which was shown the day after the original. The 1953 version seemed a world away, and now it's 30 years since the 1983 version, and I got the same feeling when seeing it for the first time since then. And it's now time to do another one - another 30 years has gone by!
OUTSTANDING!!! I remember watching this for real in 1983 and was blown away by it! Thanks to youtube - I've finally been able to see it again and it's just as good. I agree with Ben31337I, a new version in 2013 would be great!
For 5 years I went to school on the train between Hassocks and Haywards Heath. That's the 6th and 2nd stations before Brighton. I recognize the landscape well as we would be leaning out of the windows most days.
Now, here’s Brighton to London in four minutes (runs film in reverse!). I believe that this new fast train they’ve brought out can go from London King’s Cross to Glasgow Central in thirty minutes - put it on the Brighton run - London to Brighton in seventeen seconds - no trick photography here!
What stands out for me is that if a driver of today was suddenly transported back in time to 1953, he would not be lost at all! yes some changes but most of it looks the same :-)
Note the amount of local stations closed in the 1983 film. That bloody railway act in the 1960's that closed loads of tracks down STILL has an adverse effect on our crap british railway even today.
I just wish someone could re-record the original 1953 version so as to create a "normal" speed one hour version. That would be something to see, all that long gone infrastructure and trackage...
@Ben31337l Sounds like a good idea. 1983 may have seemed very different from 1953 but one thing that shows how different the 21st Century is from 1983 is that an ordinary everyday citizen with a digital camera and a PC plus permission to ride in the cab of a London to Brighton train could make their own version of this film.
Now that was a cool ride. I wonder if the BBC could do another two in 2013. One with 1953 and 2013. And one with 1983 and 2013. Love the music. I've got a challenge. Spot out all of the differences with the reason and at what point of the vedio the changes happen.
Excellent - would you mind if I use this to supplement a music track I've been working on today.. I'd like to try and re-edit it to fit my song if you wouldn't mind although I'm not sure how to go about it yet?
@kaiyan246 - not sure of the actual piece but it does sound very much like something the BBC Radiophonic Workshop would come up with. Perhaps Peter Howell or Paddy Kingsland?
Was the 1953 version used in "Supercar"? (The episode with the atomic powered train.) The 2013 version should include exterior views of the train. With Dr. Who at the throttle.
Why doesn't the '53 version show Battersea Power Station on the left at the start? Oh...hang on a minute...it *IS* there! Just a tiny glimpse of it through the pea souper! That's probably the most noticable difference between then and now...how much cleaner the air is!
+Lee Mendham - I saw this as a kid (Blue Peter maybe) and the music made a big impression on me. I'd like to say it inspired me to go on & become a world famous synth star, but sadly I only got as far as learning some of the melody on my new Casio keyboard. Hearing it again after nearly 33 years is very strange. We had no VCR in those days so my memory of it and the melody is from memory.
It was shown in its entirety on the Windmill programme (Chris Serle showing archive BBC clips), broadcast usually on Sunday around midday, back in the mid 1980s. And yes, it was Elizabeth Parker (BBC Radiophonic Workshop).
the more that changes the more it stays the same notice more traffic on the line then and more people used the train, might be because it was cheaper and could be afforded
+Jim Young More people use it now - in fact, despite the way people keep moaning about ever-increasing fares, rail passenger traffic is now at its highest level since WWI!
To fast to make out any differences, apart from the overall quality and colours. Would be better an 8 min, at least you would get an opportunity to see some differences.
I paused the vid every few seconds to study the key landmarks. What impressed me was the durability of structures over the years. Here in the USA, often if a structure is 25 years old, it's torn down and rebuilt.
A lot of the bridges date back to the Victorian times when the railways were first built. They're a testament to the designers and builders that they've lasted so long.
Very interesting view; seems an incredible thing to do to synchronise it like that. I do have the original on disc; there was some firm that was selling it. I remember that in the fifties when it came on the telly it was sensational!
A few notable sights: 1:34 Coulsdon North. It closed in 1983 after years of neglect. 2:11 (Current) Gatwick Airport station 2:13 (Old) Gatwick Airport station 2:18 Three Bridges station has a line to Tunbridge Wells branching off to the left
For some reason what sticks in many peoples' minds is the theme music from the 1980s version when asked. Remember this like yesterday being 10 when it showed on BBC2!
Absolutely brilliant! the effort and time put into this speaks volumes! The synchronization is a masterpiece!
The most fun I've ever had on CZcams! Judicious use of the space bar gets you stopped at every station which is a better way to test the syncing than the "Bucha effect" inducing trying to watch both at once.. Cheers Aunty.
One of the beat shorts ever filmed.
fantastic, thanks for posting. traveled that line many many times....takes me back...
You know, the more times I watch this, the more I think of that one episode of Gerry Anderson's Supercar "The Runaway Train"
I remember seeing the first one which was shown the day after the original. The 1953 version seemed a world away, and now it's 30 years since the 1983 version, and I got the same feeling when seeing it for the first time since then.
And it's now time to do another one - another 30 years has gone by!
brilliant , nice music for it . going to watch it again
well done
OUTSTANDING!!! I remember watching this for real in 1983 and was blown away by it! Thanks to youtube - I've finally been able to see it again and it's just as good. I agree with Ben31337I, a new version in 2013 would be great!
Remember seeing the original on BBC TV many times. It was used as a filler between programs. There were no ads at that time.
For 5 years I went to school on the train between Hassocks and Haywards Heath. That's the 6th and 2nd stations before Brighton. I recognize the landscape well as we would be leaning out of the windows most days.
Everything is so much greener!
Nicely done. Virtually perfect sync all the way through. Thanks!
this is wonderful!, thank you so much
Now, here’s Brighton to London in four minutes (runs film in reverse!).
I believe that this new fast train they’ve brought out can go from London King’s Cross to Glasgow Central in thirty minutes - put it on the Brighton run - London to Brighton in seventeen seconds - no trick photography here!
They did!
Nice work. Thank you!
Great work, congratulations.
Allowing for discrepancies that was superb editing!!
What stands out for me is that if a driver of today was suddenly transported back in time to 1953, he would not be lost at all! yes some changes but most of it looks the same :-)
1953: Four minutes later we're on the platform in Brighton having covered 51 miles faster than sound at an average speed of 765 miles per hour.
very clever; well done! I was struck by how much more foliage there is beside the track nowadays.
Note the amount of local stations closed in the 1983 film. That bloody railway act in the 1960's that closed loads of tracks down STILL has an adverse effect on our crap british railway even today.
Slowing this down to 0.25 speed. The 1983 video is much worse. Other than distance, the 1953 video is much sharper.
Great video.
Love it
Very well done, how little changes in 30 years.
Thanks, one for the album I would say..
That was excellent
Eye catching good video
I just wish someone could re-record the original 1953 version so as to create a "normal" speed one hour version. That would be something to see, all that long gone infrastructure and trackage...
Awesome!! :) love it!!!!
Excellent!
@Ben31337l Sounds like a good idea. 1983 may have seemed very different from 1953 but one thing that shows how different the 21st Century is from 1983 is that an ordinary everyday citizen with a digital camera and a PC plus permission to ride in the cab of a London to Brighton train could make their own version of this film.
Would like to see this done again
The Quadrophenia DVD had something similar to this as a bonus/extra
Now that was a cool ride.
I wonder if the BBC could do another two in 2013.
One with 1953 and 2013. And one with 1983 and 2013.
Love the music.
I've got a challenge. Spot out all of the differences with the reason and at what point of the vedio the changes happen.
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The thing that struck me was that there seem to be more trees and general greenery - is that the reason for leaves on the line?
I have to wonder if the BBC have it mind that the next version is due next year. Would be good and its not alot to ask. Sure it could be done.
Great Video, I subscribed.
Excellent - would you mind if I use this to supplement a music track I've been working on today.. I'd like to try and re-edit it to fit my song if you wouldn't mind although I'm not sure how to go about it yet?
@kaiyan246 - not sure of the actual piece but it does sound very much like something the BBC Radiophonic Workshop would come up with. Perhaps Peter Howell or Paddy Kingsland?
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It would be awesome to do one in 2013!
The same paint has lasted well at the stations.
Was the 1953 version used in "Supercar"?
(The episode with the atomic powered train.)
The 2013 version should include exterior views of the train.
With Dr. Who at the throttle.
Why doesn't the '53 version show Battersea Power Station on the left at the start?
Oh...hang on a minute...it *IS* there! Just a tiny glimpse of it through the pea souper!
That's probably the most noticable difference between then and now...how much cleaner the air is!
And from steam locos.
Is it me or does the viaduct at approx 3 mins look to have changed angle slightly over the years!
Cool
What the music playing in the background?
+James Connelly It's an original composition. I think it's by Elizabeth Parker who was the last resident composer of the BBC Radiophonic Workshop.
+Lee Mendham - I saw this as a kid (Blue Peter maybe) and the music made a big impression on me. I'd like to say it inspired me to go on & become a world famous synth star, but sadly I only got as far as learning some of the melody on my new Casio keyboard. Hearing it again after nearly 33 years is very strange. We had no VCR in those days so my memory of it and the melody is from memory.
It was shown in its entirety on the Windmill programme (Chris Serle showing archive BBC clips), broadcast usually on Sunday around midday, back in the mid 1980s. And yes, it was Elizabeth Parker (BBC Radiophonic Workshop).
The music on this video was actually composed and performed by a composer called Kim McCroddan.
iv looked carfully and if you look at 32 seconds you see the 1593 version jump forwards
@GeneralQurumov aye about 360 years!!!!
I have no idea. and I don't think that Cashpotty knows ether.
great but song please?
Was this sped up
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the more that changes the more it stays the same notice more traffic on the line then and more people used the train, might be because it was cheaper and could be afforded
+Jim Young More people use it now - in fact, despite the way people keep moaning about ever-increasing fares, rail passenger traffic is now at its highest level since WWI!
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@Cool2BCeltic Yeah, I would LOVE it if someone made another one.
I can't believe I didn't get E-mails from all of the replies to this post.
It's around 50 miles so around 750 mph average
what was the station at 2:12
Gatwick Airport
So the real bricks and mortar, iron and steel, engineering constructions haven't really changed all that much?
To fast to make out any differences, apart from the overall quality and colours. Would be better an 8 min, at least you would get an opportunity to see some differences.
i think you've gone too far in 1953 and 1983 blown it all