Harold Bloom on why Blood Meridian's the best novel ever

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  • One of America's greatest literary critics "Harold Bloom" loved Blood Meridian. In today's video, we are going to hear from Harold Bloom and then discuss some quotes from him on Blood Meridian.
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  • @jasonuerkvitz3756
    @jasonuerkvitz3756 Před 5 měsíci +86

    Bloom, as brilliant as he was--sensitive, eloquent, graced with a sliver of genius--falls short of fully grasping what Judge Holden represented, and what the work of _Blood Meridian_ is describing. McCarthy's work isn't a criticism of gun violence in America, it's bigger than that, spanning further back in time. Judge Holden is indeed the avatar of war, but he is something more, he's the horrific spawn of new civilization almost encapsulating it in its inchoate state. He's described as having baby-like features, bald, strange round face, small hands and feet, but he's big, pale, and his body is hairless. He is the blood meridian, a repulsive baby, head like the skull of the freshly scalped, gore-ridden as it sounds from the mother's womb--that dark, unknown place between worlds.

    • @LangleyArend
      @LangleyArend Před 5 měsíci +13

      I don't think that Bloom was claiming McCarthy's work as a criticism of gun violence in America. He was referring to a certain spirit of violence which animates those who commit gun violence, among other things.

    • @jasonuerkvitz3756
      @jasonuerkvitz3756 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@LangleyArend "...A terrible parable in which I think has a _deep_ implicit warning for current American society. I mean our _gun_ crazy country where Charlton Heston appears endlessly on television and amazes me. Uh, he angrily says, President Clinton why do you talk of 22 children shot here or there and you don't talk about the tens perhaps hundreds of millions of dollars the NRA is spending to educate young people how to properly handle guns. I cannot believe the madness..."
      Yet, in my humble opinion, McCarthy isn't writing _Blood Meridian_ as a warning at all. He's not writing it as a cry for swords to ploughshares. There is no utopian vision in the end, a summation of his hopes and dreams for how he wishes America, or human civilization, should progress. He's making a cold and _explicit_ observation, not a warning, that humanity is deeply tied, defined by, and driven by war. Humanity _is_ what it is due to our penchant for war.
      It's woefully myopic to limit the book to how things are in America when it comes to _gun_ violence, when it disregards all other forms of violence that takes place. It's incredibly shortsighted to limit the book to America specifically, to America in the 20th-21st centuries. The book is choosing a sliver of time and saying that there is an extreme component of humanity that will do the absolute worse to itself in order to pioneer the spread of civilization.
      Bloom is a deeply sensitive person who fixates on what wounds his heart. That's a good thing, because he represents what might tie people to a greater goodness--though wanton compassion without discernment isn't a virtue--but it is extraordinarily naive to think that violence will go away, that guns will go away, and people will live harmoniously. McCarthy isn't lamenting America's fixation on guns. He's claiming humanity's progeneration is part and parcel to acts of unspeakable violence.
      If civilization, according to _Blood Meridian_ , is a cold-died coin, then you have to consider it has two sides. Both are hideous as they wouldn't exist if not for the bloodshed and genocide that led to their creation, but one is graven as it worships the "hero" that allowed for civilization's creation, or, perhaps, its sustenance, and through it all, this coin, comes the notions of civilization--commerce, expansion, empire.
      Without it, we don't exist.
      What do you think?

    • @jasonuerkvitz3756
      @jasonuerkvitz3756 Před 4 měsíci +12

      @@LangleyArend This comment was deleted so I will re-post it as I am curious about your reply:
      "...A terrible parable in which I think has a deep implicit warning for current American society. I mean our gun crazy country where Charlton Heston appears endlessly on television and amazes me. Uh, he angrily says, President Clinton why do you talk of 22 children shot here or there and you don't talk about the tens perhaps hundreds of millions of dollars the NRA is spending to educate young people how to properly handle guns. I cannot believe the madness..."
      Yet, in my humble opinion, McCarthy isn't writing Blood Meridian as a warning at all. He's not writing it as a cry for swords to ploughshares. There is no utopian vision in the end, a summation of his hopes and dreams for how he wishes America, or human civilization, should progress. He's making a cold and explicit observation, not a warning, that humanity is deeply tied, defined by, and driven by war. Humanity is what it is due to our penchant for war.
      It's woefully myopic to limit the book to how things are in America when it comes to gun violence, when it disregards all other forms of violence that takes place. It's incredibly shortsighted to limit the book to America specifically, to America in the 20th-21st centuries. The book is choosing a sliver of time and saying that there is an extreme component of humanity that will do the absolute worse to itself in order to pioneer the spread of civilization.
      Bloom is a deeply sensitive person who fixates on what wounds his heart. That's a good thing, because he represents what might tie people to a greater goodness--though wanton compassion without discernment isn't a virtue--but it is extraordinarily naive to think that violence will go away, that guns will go away, and people will live harmoniously. McCarthy isn't lamenting America's fixation on guns. He's claiming humanity's progeneration is part and parcel to acts of unspeakable violence.
      If civilization, according to Blood Meridian , is a cold-died coin, then you have to consider it has two sides. Both are hideous as they wouldn't exist if not for the bloodshed and genocide that led to their creation, but one is graven as it worships the "hero" that allowed for civilization's creation, or, perhaps, its sustenance, and through it all, this coin, comes the notions of civilization--commerce, expansion, empire.
      Without it, we don't exist.
      What do you think?

    • @johnsondee4100
      @johnsondee4100 Před 4 měsíci +6

      It’s kind of hard to downplay the shadow that his politics cast over his discussion of this topic. All of the examples that Bloom mentions are American left wing bugaboos that were making the rounds in the political news at that time. I don’t think it’s a stretch to call this a basic-bitch interpretation of the work. You could be charitable to him and say that this is simply him playing to the audience, though. Because lord knows he couldn’t be so narrow in his own internal monologue. But you could accuse the general public of that.

    • @jasonuerkvitz3756
      @jasonuerkvitz3756 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@johnsondee4100 Absolutely. I re-posted a reply I made to Langley Arend that mysteriously got deleted, even though I have it "hearted" by Write Conscious in my archives. CZcams straight memory-holing my replies everywhere on this platform, but it's back after some trouble. I quoted Bloom's limited take on things directly from the interview.

  • @greglbennett
    @greglbennett Před 3 měsíci +27

    The first time I read "Blood Meridian" I got 250 pages into it and went back to the beginning and started over. I can't explain it, but I just didn't want it to end so I started over.

    • @goombah226
      @goombah226 Před 3 měsíci

      Damn good book. I'm afraid it will be ruined if it is made into a movie. The Coen brothers would be my first choice.

    • @Sindrella.
      @Sindrella. Před měsícem

      @@goombah226Coen brothers are the ONLY choice! They adapted No Country for Old Men so well. I know that’s part of why you suggested them. But you’re right. Not to mention, they might capture the absurd or dry, morbid humor that some of the chapters have.

    • @shiven513
      @shiven513 Před měsícem +1

      I wish there would be an American Tarkovsky

    • @gomezgomez7759
      @gomezgomez7759 Před 20 dny

      @@goombah226or davis ceonenberg

  • @BaronV-gp1eb
    @BaronV-gp1eb Před 2 měsíci +33

    Dostoevsky describes the Russian soul, Kazatzakis describes the Greek soul, McCarthy describes the American soul

  • @lucasartscrafts6023
    @lucasartscrafts6023 Před 5 měsíci +24

    I've acquired the bad habit of getting so absorbed in Bloom's commentary that I never get around to reading the actual books he was praising.

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Haha!

    • @iuseitToo
      @iuseitToo Před 2 měsíci +1

      Dude I feel that heavy! Ha...
      Have such a long tbr list but
      find myself reading not just Bloom, but more modern criticism too. Love Lethem's piece "the ecstasy of influence"; a bit of an obvious counter to bloom's own "anxiety of influence". That's a great read.
      And Badass Ben Marcus' response to Franzen's "Mr. difficult" and whatever elitist type- shit he was on in that article about "the recognitions" and its difficulty and the reader/writer contract...
      Both relatively old, but stuff I've read in the past few months and enjoyed.
      Late edit: almost sure it's Lethem who wrote the piece. Get him confused with Chabon sometimes, which seems weird but they both seem to have similar underlying ideas(to me) wrt to what they're trying to accomplish. And i think that's treating 'literary' fiction, genre fiction, whatever lowbrow pop culture detritus they see as important; it's all grist for the mill.
      And also that piece the ecstasy of influence is full of plagiarisms from tons of recognizable padded of classics books of the past. So that's a cool part thing about the piece. Probably should be further up in this comment... mnnhh

    • @lucasartscrafts6023
      @lucasartscrafts6023 Před 2 měsíci

      Cool! I check those out.@@iuseitToo

    • @lordtwiglet4068
      @lordtwiglet4068 Před 4 dny +2

      He's hypnotic isn't he? Such an eloquent speaker.

    • @jugo1944
      @jugo1944 Před 4 dny

      I don't think BM is CM's best book.

  • @nikkivenable73
    @nikkivenable73 Před 5 měsíci +33

    I didn't know Harold was so prescient about modern reading. He's impressive the more i learn of him.

  • @Ukedc259
    @Ukedc259 Před 5 měsíci +15

    It’s a simply amazing novel. Breathtakingly good.

  • @TrueBlueAndrew
    @TrueBlueAndrew Před 27 dny +2

    I just finished Blood Meridian last week, im happy I found this Channel.

  • @idicula1979
    @idicula1979 Před 5 měsíci +7

    The beauty of the wide open west, with the reality of the blood and brutality that set those boundaries. It is the super ego of what an unchecked people do, and it is in the reader that is left to its uneasy answer.

  • @workingtheories
    @workingtheories Před 5 měsíci +5

    Oh baby-I’ve been waiting for this one!

  • @mazolab
    @mazolab Před 5 měsíci +6

    As I Lay Dying is more difficult to read than Blood Meridian. I give McCarthy credit for being comprehensible after one pass and just as good.

  • @enriccoc7794
    @enriccoc7794 Před 5 měsíci +9

    Those interview clips from the 80's and 90's are enjoyable, stay on topic but also the people interviewed have time and space to express themselves completely. It's so different from modern talk TV which always degrade to people shouting at one another and "we only have one minute left" and other the other hand the modern long form podcasts where they are up to 3 hours but go on tangents...it's become so normalized for people to talk over top of one another and people who are slower thinkers can never finish a thought. I find that really grating about modern interviews.

    • @mikeoglen6848
      @mikeoglen6848 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Stop watching TV and watch more on t'internet?

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Agreed. There are some great author interviews from the 80's and 90's with charismatic hosts who were also smart.

  • @nobbynoris
    @nobbynoris Před 5 měsíci +8

    I had heard of Harold Bloom before but never seen him ir heard him speak. He is a compelling speaker.

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před 5 měsíci

      Yes!

    • @ty9884
      @ty9884 Před 4 měsíci

      Greatest literary critic ever.

    • @MicahMicahel
      @MicahMicahel Před 21 dnem

      sort of disappointing here. Is this an anti gun novel! Do people like it because they agree with some statement being made about guns?
      He's guy from New York. It sounds like he has that snobby attitude where he just hasn't given any thought that it might be his perspective that is lacking.
      I've heard him speak on other books better than he does here.

  • @TheHundredHeads
    @TheHundredHeads Před 5 měsíci +13

    Bloom was a great critic of style and influence. However his social and political analysis is underbaked. You could argue those themes are not as crucial to literature as aesthetics, regardless, Bloom was often onanistic with his reading prescriptions

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Perfect insight!

    • @TheHundredHeads
      @TheHundredHeads Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@ryanand154 you could say that the way he reads Freud is almost indistinguishable from Shakespeare

    • @FoursWithin
      @FoursWithin Před 4 dny

      ​@@TheHundredHeads
      Pretty sure Shakespeare never read Freud ...

  • @peterwhite7428
    @peterwhite7428 Před 5 měsíci +12

    This is a brilliant analysis of Blood Meridian. It is a book on the scale of Moby-Dick and all the other great books of Western culture.

  • @someokiedude9549
    @someokiedude9549 Před 4 měsíci +15

    Bloom was a snob, on the one hand. Yet, on the other he was one of the most brilliant minds of our century. He's inspired how I approach reading ever since I started watching and reading his work.

    • @valuedCustomer2929
      @valuedCustomer2929 Před měsícem +2

      He comes off silly in this interview. To me it seems he is trying to shoehorn Cormac into his contemporary political sensibilities

    • @stephencarter7266
      @stephencarter7266 Před měsícem +1

      "one of the most brilliant minds of our century".
      No...just no.

    • @someokiedude9549
      @someokiedude9549 Před měsícem

      @@valuedCustomer2929 Hey, I never said he was right about everything. I personally find his comments about Stephen King distasteful. He completely misses what makes King good. It's why I said he was a snob.

    • @someokiedude9549
      @someokiedude9549 Před měsícem

      @@stephencarter7266 He was. A brilliant literary scholar and critic. What Siskel and Ebert did for film, Bloom did for books and the art of reading. I would say he's more like Siskel in that way.

    • @stephencarter7266
      @stephencarter7266 Před měsícem

      @@someokiedude9549 I've written in another post and I'll repeat it here: Bloom was just a well read dude with a talent for marketing his opinions. That's it.
      This Emperor had no clothes. It's embarrassing that more Americans hadn't called him out on his mediocrity while he was among the living.
      This guy couldn't have had _this_ massive literary reputation before WW2. Scholarship in academia was much more competitive back then.
      H Bloom was a big fish in a depleted pond.

  • @MrDinghus
    @MrDinghus Před 2 měsíci +3

    Good video as always. Have to LOL though at many of the commenters lecturing Bloom on/slamming him for having a limited understanding of the novel because he draws one parallel to (relatively) contemporary American society that is a little fuzzy, when he is largely responsible for the early popularity of Blood Meridian and McCarthy-- certainly among the novel's earliest, most consistent, and most significant champions-- and basically can take credit for the Gnostic interpretation of the novel. Not saying he or anyone else is above reproach but to write arguably the most substantive literary critic in Postwar America, who was a tireless advocate for aesthetic appreciation and the merits of reading great literature, as "a limited thinker"/"of limited intellect" and "not worth listening to" as some commenters have is the height of absurdity.

  • @782YKW
    @782YKW Před 3 měsíci +2

    Bloom said Cervantes' Don Quixote is the greatest novel ever, and Proust's In Search of Lost Time was Bloom's personal favorite novel.

  • @julianmangan9752
    @julianmangan9752 Před 3 měsíci

    Just starting to get back into reading and ordered this book. I don't think I'm ready.
    Also, interesting books you have showcased. Baudrillard is fascinating for sure, but that Julian Jaynes book will have you lose your soul lol!

  • @MegaFount
    @MegaFount Před 4 měsíci +2

    I was wondering if you could do an analysis of No Country for Old Men compared to the film adaptation. Differences, improvements and changes.

  • @user-zp2vg4mb1y
    @user-zp2vg4mb1y Před měsícem

    incredibly strong presentation, compelled to subscribe, kudos

  • @gametheorymedia
    @gametheorymedia Před 2 měsíci +1

    What a great interview here, with Bloom ⭐

  • @clemfarley7257
    @clemfarley7257 Před měsícem

    Great video. Subscribed. And looking into what seem to be great offerings. Thx.

  • @davidpaulweaver7792
    @davidpaulweaver7792 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hey! I have a quick, maybe silly question. Would you recommend trying to read Blood Meridian as quickly as possible? Is it the kind of book where if you are reading it over a longer period of time you’ll forget key details brought up in earlier chapters? I read Outer Dark and Child of God in a month just to give you an idea of my pace

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před 4 měsíci

      You shoulnd't forget if its been shorter than a month.

    • @geordiejones5618
      @geordiejones5618 Před 3 měsíci

      I read about 250 pages of Blood Meridian in a week. Greatest reading experience of my life.

    • @jamessavery276
      @jamessavery276 Před měsícem

      First time I read it key details went over my head but the quality of the prose held me spellbound all the way through. I read it a second time and filled in most of the details. (I may have read it 3 times). Next reading I will use a computer to look up the plants and other references. I'll not stop re-reading this book and his other great books.

  • @daiwalters
    @daiwalters Před měsícem

    One of best novels I have ever read.
    Starting the book was difficult, I had to reread various times because of its minimal textual and punctuational style.
    I had a similar experience reading "Blood Meridian" to "Lolita."
    Prose masters at their peak.

  • @shaneharms1895
    @shaneharms1895 Před 3 měsíci

    Could you post that Bloom book list, please?

  • @robwarren4425
    @robwarren4425 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Sorry I missed your name but do you know how many copies were printed for the first edition of BM? I don’t think There was a second printing. I do know many copies were remaindered.

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před 5 měsíci +3

      I know somewhere between 1,500-1600 copies sold between 85-92 and there wasn't a second reprinting until 1992.

    • @robwarren4425
      @robwarren4425 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@WriteConscious Thanks

  • @Garcia061
    @Garcia061 Před 2 měsíci

    I’ve read Blood Meridian about 5 times. It gets better with every read. Strangely the most powerful things for me are the dialogue and the landscape. The descriptive narrative of violence is secondary to the idea of what The Judge represents, and what he tells the reader (directly in his monologues) about the world and the human place in it. Gun violence is a minor inference. And one of many.

  • @nikkivenable73
    @nikkivenable73 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I didn't know BM was based on actual history! Is it pretty accurate?

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před 5 měsíci +6

      Yeah! The Glanton Gang was a real gang that rode through most of the southwest. In my Blood Meridian Tour videos I show where they went! Judge Holden was also real (without the supernatural elements) - Outside of the supernatural elements, the Captain White Saga, and what happened with the kid at the end its pretty accurate. There is a book "My Confession" by Samuel Chamberlain that inspired McCarthy a lot. The Kid is Samuel Chamberlain. I have other videos detailing who McCarthy based White and Glanton off too.

    • @nikkivenable73
      @nikkivenable73 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@WriteConscious wow!!!

    • @nikkivenable73
      @nikkivenable73 Před 4 měsíci

      @@maryann7619 I don’t…I’m dumb.

  • @theemptyatom
    @theemptyatom Před 3 měsíci

    Have you read Sethian Gnosticism and the Platonic Tradition by John Turner?

  • @tnreprasentog7769
    @tnreprasentog7769 Před měsícem +1

    Hell man i didnt read BM until i was 26 and it deeply affected me lol if I read it and UNDERSTOOD IT in highschool I'd of been traumatized haha (btw props to you man for being able to comprehend and understand BM in HIGHSCHOOL) LOL i guess I'm dumb because i didn't have the emotional and literal intelligence to pick up such a book, bravo

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před měsícem

      Lol, not even man. I barely understood what was going on and had to work through it slowly. Wasn't until l was 19 or so that it really clicked. I'm unfortunately anything but a reading savant 😂 I probably was so motivated to read because people thought I was dumb because I failed so many classes (because I hated school.)

  • @AntinomyAnonymous
    @AntinomyAnonymous Před 5 měsíci +3

    A great primer for reading BM.

  • @mrJohnDesiderio
    @mrJohnDesiderio Před měsícem

    I felt the same way on my first reading

  • @Ubicquitous
    @Ubicquitous Před 2 měsíci

    Write Conscious, I appreciate where you're coming from. I have little faith in these comments being heard, but will throw in my two cents. I agree Bloom comes from a different generation with a different regard to violence, born in 75 I grew up watching people die, from Rambo to the Matrix, thus I read it twice through enchanted by the language. I appreciate him raising up authors. The Judge...I look forward to seeing your vids on the philosophical aspects of his character. I've read Chamberlain's text. What McCarthy did was to take this figure and embody Nietzsche's will to power or Superman. In my humble opinion. To create a character so human and so natural it terrifies us with such realism. I have not read the books of philosophy you mention in this vid. Perhaps i should to garner a more complete opinion. but here it is such as it is. I'd like to debate you more. Perhaps some day we'll talk. I'll search up your other vids for now to be more prepared should that day come. cheers.

  • @marcpadilla1094
    @marcpadilla1094 Před 15 dny

    Shot gun Messiah always left a ringin in my ear. Heavy metal in tongues,spit,and gore. Only horror makes us accustomed to fear and wet an apetite for more.

  • @mainmanmainlining7575
    @mainmanmainlining7575 Před 5 měsíci +5

    His description of the book is incredible but he reaches with a lot of the subtext.

  • @mikeberman9270
    @mikeberman9270 Před 2 měsíci

    I think Bloom's lectures promoting Rex Stout's books are much more lucid. Nero Wolfe truly represents the American ideal of joining the eating instinct with the thinking one. Not to mention his relying on Archie Goodwin, the prototype of the subtle wisecracking man of action.

  • @petercheney8316
    @petercheney8316 Před 5 měsíci +2

    yeah
    This guy knows what time it is.

  • @Ianjames1066
    @Ianjames1066 Před 29 dny

    Dr. Bloom an unfettered and brilliant genius of the English language.

  • @tectorgorch8698
    @tectorgorch8698 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hey amigo, love seeing Julian Jaynes on your shelf. And I think Bloom is 100% correct on the Border Trilogy; I made it thru 1 and 2, but bailed halfway through the third one.

  • @MisterChris1978
    @MisterChris1978 Před 3 měsíci

    reading it now. my first CM book. it is....a lot. heavy, graphic, and now on chapter 10, seems to just go, but not in any direction. and (not necessarily a bad thing) the book seems to be more about how it is written, not what is being written. His poetry can be distracting .

  • @dylanmcdermott1110
    @dylanmcdermott1110 Před měsícem

    I have mixed feelings about Bloom, but I ultimately have a lot of respect for him. I didn't enjoy The Western Canon or Genius very much. Should I try to read his academic work (e.g. The Anxiety of Influence)?

  • @Princeteradeth
    @Princeteradeth Před 5 měsíci +17

    The guns aren’t the problem…nor are guns or “gun cultrure” the thematic concern of that novel. It cuts much deeper. I love Harold Bloom. Blood Meridian is the great American novel…up there with Moby Dick, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,….The Sound and the Fury. I appreciate what he says here, but disagree with his take on the US’s gun crazy culture. That book, How to Read and Why is excellent. His books on the Western Canon and American Cannon are also very insightful.

    • @ThumpRat
      @ThumpRat Před 5 měsíci +7

      Yeah, if you take out the Black demographic, the U.S. gun crime offense rate is similar to places like Switzerland and Czech Republic

    • @acuerdox
      @acuerdox Před 5 měsíci +4

      You can tell when a myth is good when different people see different things in it and find it revealing all the same. O think the man is proyecting his own fears, the book acts as a mirror.

    • @gkft
      @gkft Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@ThumpRat I wonder what a Jewish professor like Bloom who's view of the book is largely a critique of American violence and gun culture feels about say, Israel and its short and bloody history and if he feels the same. I'm going to go on a limb and say he probably doesn't, but I could be wrong. This guy Bloom managed to water down and get nothing out of 30 reads of what likely is the greatest American novel and one of the greatest novels of all time, period.

    • @Garrett1240
      @Garrett1240 Před 4 měsíci

      @@gkft American Jews are at the very least just as likely to be critics of Israel as supporters.

    • @Garrett1240
      @Garrett1240 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Guns and the culture surrounding them are certainly a huge problem here.

  • @pod9363
    @pod9363 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Really takes a professor to think the book is about the fucking horrors of gun ownership.

  • @theemptyatom
    @theemptyatom Před 3 měsíci

    Interesting statement at around the 12:05 minute mark: "German Idealism is built off of gnosticism". Really? Or is it just some shared themes and concepts?

  • @gkft
    @gkft Před 5 měsíci +15

    Bloom obviously doesn't get it, and it seems he's simply projecting his personal and political views about American history and American gun culture onto the book, which is insane considering he claimed to have read it more than 30 times and teaches classes on it (explains a lot of modern university education). Blood Meridian has more to say about man's place in the world and the nature of man as well as other philosophical and metaphysical questions about his role in it. To read it and be stuck on how America's history is soaked in blood is a perfect example of why this book could never be made a film, or at least never be made a good one.

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před 5 měsíci +3

      Him reflecting on our history soaked in blood is fine. But, connecting that mania to contemporary citizens who respect the 2nd amendment is wild and misguided.

    • @Scottishrugbyguy
      @Scottishrugbyguy Před 3 měsíci +1

      dude...thank you, i feel that way too.

    • @stephencarter7266
      @stephencarter7266 Před měsícem

      Bloom has some really misguided takes on Shakespeare as well.
      This guy wasn't as brilliant as he was made out to be.
      He was just a well read dude with a talent for marketing his opinions.

  • @johnsondee4100
    @johnsondee4100 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Harold’s imposition of his own sensibilities onto BM allows him to maintain his own limited worldview and he misses the bigger picture. But he certainly catches a slice of what CM is getting at. He’s correct to feel an alarm bell through the pages and into the air around him, but his politics are no defense of what will always come.

  • @ozzycrowley9421
    @ozzycrowley9421 Před 5 měsíci +3

    That’s wild that bloom causal mentions he has the book memorized lol after reading it 20 times I’m jealous .

    • @yeahhh936
      @yeahhh936 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Haha right? I think it was Blooms preferred way of tackling a work of literature. In an interview he mentions being one of the few remaining literary professors that sometimes tells his students not to annotate while reading and just let the work flow through you/reread aloud to yourself and parse out what you read in the classroom. The importance of memorization was also brought up with that in the interview.

    • @ozzycrowley9421
      @ozzycrowley9421 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@yeahhh936 absolute agree with him ,had to read the book a few times through with ought notes just to get a feel for McCarthy’s style . In all honestly I absolutely loved the audiobook version and that’s what really got me into McCarthy more than the written text . There’s a free version on youtube not sure if you’ve listened to it but it’s absolute incredible helped me a lot into getting more immersed in the novel and researching Gnosticism and the symbolism of the whole text .

  • @NondescriptMammal
    @NondescriptMammal Před 3 dny

    Yes, because there's such a thing as "best novel ever".

  • @SuperStrik9
    @SuperStrik9 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Harold is greatly missed. If one could teach passion for literature it was he.

  • @Justpassingby204
    @Justpassingby204 Před 21 dnem

    This interview aged very well. Violence had endured.

  • @zoobee
    @zoobee Před 5 měsíci +7

    Bloom was like a character from Lord of the Rings holding off armies of orcs. Read his books about literature and ignore the mainstream of literary culture, deeply politicised and philistine and 'woke'. even if you disagree with his assessments you learn, are provoked and in the hands of a restless mind searching for artistic greatness rather than grievance and feasting on victimhood resentments

  • @sicklygreyfoot
    @sicklygreyfoot Před 5 měsíci

    Patrick Kurp of the LA Review of Books (& his lit blog) absolutely despises McCarthy. Not surprisingly, he isn't a Bloom fan, either.

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před 5 měsíci

      lol

    • @sicklygreyfoot
      @sicklygreyfoot Před 4 měsíci

      @@ryanand154 "McCarthy gives every indication of hating his fellow humans, which is one of the reasons his novels are so tedious. As in much of Faulkner, McCarthy’s work has a pulpy, cartoonish core. We wait for the next outrage to occur, invariably in overheated prose." --Patrick Kurp

  • @selwynr
    @selwynr Před 27 dny

    Yeah but you wrote "best novel ever", see. I agree with Bloom's judgement, and presumably yours, and have since 1987, when I first read it. It is a colossal jaw-dropping nightmarish masterpiece, worthy, perhaps, of late Goya.

  • @ca-fletcher
    @ca-fletcher Před 5 měsíci +3

    Keep the drive alive for Cormac!!

  • @captainnolan5062
    @captainnolan5062 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Harold Bloom must know the purpose of the second amendment (as a bulwark against tyranny...which is strangely parallel to his position as a bulwark against the assault on Western Culture), so I found his comments on Americans and guns a bit off-putting. I wish he had kept away from his 'apparent' leftist political leanings (at least as it relates to arms) and focused his comments more on the book. I do appreciate his promotion of the Western Canon and attempting to hold off the attacks on Western Culture (and literature in particular). I also found his comment regarding the Judge and the White Whale insightful. I will have to take a look at your other videos (I went ahead and subscribed based on this video and your comments, not Bloom's).

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thanks brotha! I also disliked those comments and forgot to talk about them in the video. The slight Idaho reference he made was about Ruby Ridge I think, and I thought he was going to throw Waco in there. Both events were some of our lowest points where the ATF and FBI went way too crazy

    • @johnradovich8809
      @johnradovich8809 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I really admire Bloom but you are spot on. As I mentioned in another post here, wonder what his thoughts would be on our endless wars and fentanyl streaming across our open border.

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před 5 měsíci

      Probably wouldn't talk about it lol

  • @tectorgorch8698
    @tectorgorch8698 Před 4 měsíci +1

    FWIW, I'd vote for Stone's Dog Soldiers over Blood Meridian as the #2 Great American Novel. Moby Dick is #1 forever.

  • @johnhammer2982
    @johnhammer2982 Před 14 dny +1

    The book had nothing to do with being "gun crazy." Bit of personal bias creeping in there?
    Blood Meridian is an absolute landmark of a book. Never read anything else like it.

  • @autofocus4556
    @autofocus4556 Před 5 měsíci

    Kind of hyperbolic for him to say he broke down 20 pages in from the carnage. lol

  • @Garcia061
    @Garcia061 Před 2 měsíci

    Cormac didn’t approach the Cohen brothers. I think Brolin left Cormac about 5 voicemails and eventually Cormac answered… 😂

    • @hilariousname6826
      @hilariousname6826 Před 2 měsíci

      I just don't get why anyone would want a movie of this novel.

  • @brezlin-hamill
    @brezlin-hamill Před měsícem

    " Kick him honey...! "

  • @JayDee-Plantnosher
    @JayDee-Plantnosher Před 3 měsíci

    Is Harold Bloom the alter ego of Kenny Shopsin?

  • @cambodianz
    @cambodianz Před 4 měsíci +3

    “Gun crazy” is quite a useful term for someone to use. Once I hear them say such a phrase, I can pretty much dismiss most, if not all of their worldview.

    • @bej6190
      @bej6190 Před 3 měsíci +1

      You are very narrow-minded then

    • @cambodianz
      @cambodianz Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@bej6190 Nah, it's people who unironically use that term who are limited in their own thought.

  • @StruggleoftheOutsider
    @StruggleoftheOutsider Před 5 měsíci +1

    Agree we need better advocates tho.

  • @user-fo8sv5nh6z
    @user-fo8sv5nh6z Před 4 měsíci

    who is this old lady?

  • @RiverheadSkate
    @RiverheadSkate Před měsícem

    A bald Bloom would be the Judge

  • @amcsibozgor6791
    @amcsibozgor6791 Před 24 dny +1

    I've read All the Pretty Horses and The Road and frankly I think they're overrated. Lowering my expectaions for Blood Meridian and hope it pays off.

  • @TGBahr
    @TGBahr Před 5 měsíci

    That's probably already *Siddhartha* and *Pet Sematary* but I'll hear him out.

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před 5 měsíci +3

      Lol, Blood Meridian is better than Siddhartha and Pet Sematary any way you slice it. There is no subjective "we like different styles" when there is such a massive quality gap.

  • @AleksandarBloom
    @AleksandarBloom Před 5 měsíci +2

    He wrote a novel once. So did James Wood. I wonder how bad it is.

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před 5 měsíci +3

      The reviews look bad. Creative writing is a whole different beast. You could read a couple good novels and become a great author with thousands of hours of work. However, being a bad creative writer doesn't mean you can't be a great theorist. The novel is the most complicated art-form and I don't think it's possible anymore to function at a high level of theory and creative writing skills simultaneously.

    • @AleksandarBloom
      @AleksandarBloom Před 5 měsíci +4

      ​@@WriteConscious Forster, Gass and occasionally Borges, were quite accomplished in both fields. But it is a rare occurrence. As for poetry, famously, and deservedly so, Coleridge and T.S.E.

    • @FrancisGo.
      @FrancisGo. Před 5 měsíci +1

      I have 'The Flight to Lucifer'.
      It's the one thing Bloom wrote that I could actually improve, but he's my favorite critic.
      I like the critics he models himself after too.

    • @FrancisGo.
      @FrancisGo. Před 5 měsíci

      Bloom's book would have been better if he had used an actual plot and then discarded it in subsequent drafts.
      The book is bad, but it's kind of cool.

  • @hugoblack4133
    @hugoblack4133 Před 21 dnem

    Ridden...? (:15) Who are these people who are *riding* novels...?

  • @drbenway612
    @drbenway612 Před 5 měsíci

    Bowel Movement

  • @joe.h-7322
    @joe.h-7322 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Wish he wouldn’t stop pushing the anti gun stuff and tying it to cormacs work, It’s a fair argument but It doesn’t really have any place in relation to his books in my opinion.

  • @Vgallo
    @Vgallo Před 4 měsíci

    I wish you didn’t cut it short

  • @nathancooley7685
    @nathancooley7685 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I really like and respect Harold Bloom and I love McCarthy and Blood Meridian, but this is some low level analysis by Bloom.
    To say Blood Meridian is about violence, and specifically guns, is like saying The Old Man and the Sea is about fishing or There Will Be Blood is about oil. It’s extremely surface-level and really boring, frankly. Overall though, I think it really misses the point.

    • @johnradovich8809
      @johnradovich8809 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Insightful post. Had to scroll down to find someone who saw through this. Wonder what he’d think of the endless wars and fentanyl streaming across the border.

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před 5 měsíci

      Agreed!

  • @alohm
    @alohm Před měsícem

    I didnt find blood Meridian hard to read. Im a gen x and have read some Sade... Lolita disturbed me, and even more so was heqring from you tubers who do not see lolita as difficult to read, but will not read blood Meridian for rhe violence. Hmm?

  • @alohm
    @alohm Před měsícem

    Read good books well. Bloom. Life is too short tp read bad books. Schopenhauer. There will be no need to ban books, they will not want to read them. Huxley. We need to learn to read and listen. It is engagement not entertainment. Focus on fluency not literacy.

  • @theecharmingbilly
    @theecharmingbilly Před 5 měsíci +1

    lmfao.

  • @selwynr
    @selwynr Před měsícem

    He never claimed it was, so why the clickbait? Oh, hang on, I got suckered in! I get it. As far as the best is concerned, he would have always said Don Quixote first, then maybe The Tale of Genji or Tolstoy or Proust - greatest novel in English is obviously Middlemarch. And yes, you qualify the clickbait in the vid, which makes it even more unnecessary - but gotta get those views!
    As an aside, BM's relevance is really to the fore right now, with the genocide taking place in Gaza. The odious Itamar Ben-Gvir, Smotrich and Netanyahu are like mini-me Judges but just as bloodthirsty and evil. And of course Biden is also possessed of the Judge's genocidal bloodlust.

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před měsícem +2

      "I venture that no other living American novelist, not even Pynchon, has given us a book as strong and memorable as Blood Meridian"

  • @mikebevibevi
    @mikebevibevi Před 2 dny

    Read 400 pages 20-30 times? Who has time for that? Lol. Dont even have time to watch a movie 20-30 times lol

  • @SavagesInMyTown
    @SavagesInMyTown Před 5 měsíci +1

    i thought the book was boring af. i read it twice because i wanted to get what everyone was so excited about but i didnt like it

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před 5 měsíci +1

      most boring book ever! I liked Pride and Prejudice way better. Sometimes at night I get risky and read Frankenstein!

  • @kynismos
    @kynismos Před 29 dny

    "The best novel ever" is obviously a very illiterate thing to say.

  • @StruggleoftheOutsider
    @StruggleoftheOutsider Před 5 měsíci +5

    The hand wringing over the private gun ownership shit is kind of an obvious red herring now. There's no winding back technology and the reality is the problem is more basic.. more to do with human social & psychological technology.. The call is coming from inside the house and finger pointing at these distractions offers increasingly little relief in our current age.

    • @WriteConscious
      @WriteConscious  Před 5 měsíci

      Yup. The solution is a spiritual one. Has nothing to do with politics.

  • @todesque
    @todesque Před 6 dny

    Man, what an overrated novel. I put it alongside Ulysses. Difficult for the sake of being difficult. Not my cup of tea. I’ll stick with Tolstoy thank you very much.

  • @Vgallo
    @Vgallo Před 4 měsíci

    That is still a Judea Christian view

  • @Dave-qi3ft
    @Dave-qi3ft Před 23 hodinami

    This guy turns it into liberal talking points? He's typical. Nothing special about this professor, that's for sure.

  • @linjicakonikon7666
    @linjicakonikon7666 Před 4 měsíci +1

    If Bloom doesn't understand the reason for the 2nd amendment and the centrality guns have in our freedoms, he should read The Gulag Archipelago. Talk about horror.

  • @johngammon963
    @johngammon963 Před 12 dny

    I think Harold Bloom is a gatekeeper.

  • @andrewmcleod1684
    @andrewmcleod1684 Před měsícem

    I’m not saying he’s wrong in this conclusion but Bloom represents most of what is wrong with modern academia/aethetics, also do not discount his ethnic perspective in all that he says

  • @erjondividi5303
    @erjondividi5303 Před měsícem

    I thought catcher in the rye was the best american novel!

  • @user-xd1xf9rp5p
    @user-xd1xf9rp5p Před měsícem

    I thought Bloom was a bit ‘precious.’ He’s one of those idiots that thinks out lawing guns will reduce crime or violence. Our violence stems from lack of shame and lack of a family unit. We’ve lost our culture and our children are raised by gov institutions and told lies from birth. Love BM but Bloom is annoying and wrong on his opinions.

  • @epic6434
    @epic6434 Před 13 dny

    His exaggeration got my attention like wtf then he says I have a scandalous memory 😂 then it makes sense it's tough reading it's really hard work it's the way he made himself sound wounded like he had a false expression of a broken heart.