Lizzo isn't your body positive icon

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  • @kaskus7147
    @kaskus7147 Před 10 měsíci +478

    It does not matter if you are personally open with your sexuality and whatever. You don't do that shit with your employees.

    • @Breexbloodlust
      @Breexbloodlust Před 9 měsíci +2

      yeh not everyone wants to see it

    • @Urine_
      @Urine_ Před 9 měsíci +4

      Deadass tho. Like girl those are your employees😭😭 not yo besties

    • @Breexbloodlust
      @Breexbloodlust Před 9 měsíci

      @@Urine_ right, fking weird

  • @Itsunclegabby
    @Itsunclegabby Před 10 měsíci +580

    Interesting that Lizzo feels that because her ex employees were allegedly previously told they were being inappropriate on tour, it must mean that there's no possible way Lizzo could have been inappropriate herself.

    • @pinkanimositygaming
      @pinkanimositygaming Před 10 měsíci +79

      Yeah people refuse to acknowledge the possibility that maybe the dancers were “inappropriate” because Lizzo fostered and encouraged that behavior. What you permit, you promote.

    • @maenad1231
      @maenad1231 Před 10 měsíci +22

      An employee wasn’t even fired for being inappropriate - she resigned

    • @almondmilksoda
      @almondmilksoda Před 10 měsíci +32

      Classic DARVO response from a narcissist. There's no accountability here whatsoever, just victim blaming and deflecting.
      Deny
      Attack
      Reverse-Victim Offender

    • @BelindaShort
      @BelindaShort Před 10 měsíci

      @@almondmilksoda Just a heads up that anyone can be abusive. Not all narcissists are abusive and not all abusers are narcissists, and we really need to stop armchair diagnosing people as narcs. It's a legitimate cluster B disorder and extremely stigmatized.
      You can be a narcissist and an abuser, but DARVO can happen from just about any kind of abuser.

    • @Thecodexnoir
      @Thecodexnoir Před 10 měsíci +14

      Exactly. Another interesting point is that ‘inappropriate’ behavior could mean something completely different as that’s subjective.. Lizzo’s idea of ‘inappropriate’ behavior could be the dancers refusing to do or say certain things when asked or told to for example

  • @andrejuarez
    @andrejuarez Před 10 měsíci +146

    She said Chris Brown was her favorite person. If they came out and said she eats babies, I'd believe it.

    • @sabsain2399
      @sabsain2399 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Ahhhh plenty people like that guy... :-/

    • @sleepnomore6065
      @sleepnomore6065 Před 9 měsíci +1

      LOL

    • @NosferatuWickedTTRPG
      @NosferatuWickedTTRPG Před 9 měsíci +7

      @@sabsain2399 As a musician, not *as a person* she said he's "her favourite person on earth" A woman beater.

    • @Breexbloodlust
      @Breexbloodlust Před 9 měsíci +7

      the fact that girls still want him is scary

  • @skylar408
    @skylar408 Před 10 měsíci +254

    As a fat person who has been fat most of my life, I’ve been body shamed by other fat people more than I have skinny people.

    • @Redorgreenful
      @Redorgreenful Před 10 měsíci +20

      That's awful😑

    • @jovana_kocic
      @jovana_kocic Před 10 měsíci +23

      It's probably under the guise of "it's just my advice"🫤

    • @larissabrglum3856
      @larissabrglum3856 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Interesting!

    • @stellastarfield1111
      @stellastarfield1111 Před 10 měsíci +29

      Projection is wild. I'm so sorry. No one should be judged or mistreated for their weight.

    • @hotsexyangel
      @hotsexyangel Před 10 měsíci

      Omg right!! The projection is crazy.

  • @AlexR05e
    @AlexR05e Před 10 měsíci +178

    I'm disappointed, but I've become so jaded about celebrities (and people in general) that when someone turns out to be a complete monster it doesn't shock me anymore. It feels like the norm now and that wears me down.

    • @Macalicious
      @Macalicious Před 10 měsíci +14

      100% agree with that. I cannot comprhend how difficult it is for some people (especially celebrities) to just do the bare minimum of being a good/average person. Don't bother/harm others and just be ok. It's SO EASY to do, you don't need to do anything but mind your own business and -if you actually want to put in effort, oh noooo- maybe help one another!? I don't get it man.

    • @Breexbloodlust
      @Breexbloodlust Před 9 měsíci

      same it's sad

  • @munchkin6160
    @munchkin6160 Před 10 měsíci +526

    Who in their right mind would speak out against a well-liked and influential figure, well aware under how much scrutiny they would be and how much hate they would receive, unless they had something to fight for?

    • @meaty9722
      @meaty9722 Před 10 měsíci +71

      @@ProPower-gi1nl “Your Honor, the defendant CANNOT be guilty. The plaintiff got hella clout brah”

    • @munchkin6160
      @munchkin6160 Před 10 měsíci +40

      ​@@ProPower-gi1nlit's definitely possible, but I think it would be weird considering the risk that this would end their entire careers on- and offline

    • @calcifiedweatherfrog4945
      @calcifiedweatherfrog4945 Před 10 měsíci +52

      ​@@ProPower-gi1nltheir risking their careers and spending a lot of money to do this, if it was just a Twitter thread I would be more skeptical but this is a whole ass lawsuit

    • @Huitzel
      @Huitzel Před 10 měsíci

      My niggah you’re gay.

    • @Leriehane
      @Leriehane Před 10 měsíci +33

      ​@@meaty9722"let's all get blacklisted from potential jobs, clout will pay the bills!" 😂

  • @Gee-Raf
    @Gee-Raf Před 10 měsíci +286

    Highly doubt this is false. Way to many people coming forward and willing to take it to trial speaks volumes.

    • @ijustwantpancakesinfrench
      @ijustwantpancakesinfrench Před 10 měsíci +20

      MY THOUGHT EXACTLY!!! Like I saw people on tiktok trying to say that they lied because of the audition video where one of the alleged victim said that she loved her time there. I mean, how many people victim of abuse lie on the daily about how they are treated? Why should this be any different? Especially when your whole career is on the table like this is so weird to me to see people apologizing already on their take. Come on they are taking it to court they are doing what most skeptical people wants victims to do to prove that they were in fact real victim of abuse I don't get people who don't believe them at all because of ONE video I get wanting to be skeptical but to dismiss it completely I don't.

  • @rebelbelle1039
    @rebelbelle1039 Před 10 měsíci +131

    Off topic but I saw on Instagram you got into your PhD program and I wanted to tell you congratulations 🎉❤️

  • @AKbaby89
    @AKbaby89 Před 10 měsíci +62

    I dont get how anyone thinks the dancers are lying. Theyre literally risking their careers and basically everything they have for this.
    Not to mention 6 more people have come out against lizzo.

    • @Redorgreenful
      @Redorgreenful Před 10 měsíci +9

      I don't doubt that with the details being so specific and the contexts involving other witnesses.

  • @Isa.esthetics
    @Isa.esthetics Před 10 měsíci +345

    I dont think these women would just blow up their careers or the body positive movement that Lizzo portrays online just for clout. These 3 women have been effected in some way and there needs to be repercussions for pushing religious agendas at work. This also doesnt give people the right to be fat-phobic to Lizzo either.

    • @LonnieJHayes
      @LonnieJHayes Před 10 měsíci +2

      Then that means u must be new to the internet. People will do anything for clout nowadays.

    • @Isa.esthetics
      @Isa.esthetics Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@LonnieJHayes if u have been on the internet long enough u can smell a clout shark from a mile away.

  • @desireemastin
    @desireemastin Před 10 měsíci +99

    Growing up, many of the people around me were hyper focused on my virginity. It was a huge topic of debate between my friends as to when and how I should sleep with someone. The pressure I felt from friends, family, and even random acquaintances to have sex was overwhelming and frustrating. I’m glad I waited until after I graduated high school to become sexually active, and it hasn’t affected my life negatively in any way.

    • @lolololololollol4793
      @lolololololollol4793 Před 10 měsíci +10

      me too. my friends were somewhat hyper sexual in high school and i was the only virgin. i hated when the topic of virginity came up cause i knew they would question me about it. i was uncomfortable and had a lot of fear when it came to sex because of insecurity. now i have a better relationship with it while some of those friends suffer consequences from things they did in the past.😬

    • @xxxxx-iu4fw
      @xxxxx-iu4fw Před 10 měsíci +8

      God that’s awful. I personally struggle w/ being Hypersexual due to some things that have happened to me and even then I’d never want to pressure someone about sex. That’s just gross man. Glad you’re ok :D!!

    • @MissyWebb12
      @MissyWebb12 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Lost my virginity at 14 and was wayy to emotionally young and didnt realize it till about 19 20. Although i thought this was about body shapes LOL

  • @MadamFancyPants
    @MadamFancyPants Před 10 měsíci +60

    I feel like you can’t claim to be body positive and at the same time believe in the antiquated and gross idea that “virginity” has any relevance to a person’s morality or worth. I’m so confused.

    • @sabsain2399
      @sabsain2399 Před 10 měsíci

      I'm honestly so disgusted by these very clearly patriarchal, conservative women dancing on the grave of feminism and body positivity. Fxck you for thinking women deserve any less than men when it comes to sexual pleasure and interactions

    • @xxxxx-iu4fw
      @xxxxx-iu4fw Před 10 měsíci +7

      For real that shitty concept of virginity is disgusting and caused me so much stress and emotional pain throughout my teen years (fill in the blanks I guess)

    • @sleepnomore6065
      @sleepnomore6065 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@xxxxx-iu4fwI watched a mini-doc of a sex trafficking victim where someone commented that he couldnt be with a woman who had sex with thousands, like she said. I replied that the vagina is not a car. There is no mileage reader, except to misgoynists who puts a woman's value on her body/sexual history!

    • @sassysaradomin
      @sassysaradomin Před 9 měsíci

      @@xxxxx-iu4fwsame with me

    • @MissyWebb12
      @MissyWebb12 Před 9 měsíci

      To be honest. My body count is 10 and i think its HIGH and wrong. Tbh. And wayy wayy too many men judge a womans worth off her body count number of kids and of course her looks. I sorda think that way too. But then i flip on that opinion. So idk

  • @cassjones9125
    @cassjones9125 Před 10 měsíci +93

    The twilight shirt tho ✨

  • @sarahg2665
    @sarahg2665 Před 10 měsíci +22

    The way I see it, at the very least Lizzo exhibited unprofessionalism and cultivated a hostile work environment where the mental and physical health of her dancers was not prioritized. At the most, she committed sexual assault, endangered the health and wellbeing of her staff, and discriminated against them. Neither of those scenarios are representative of someone I’d want to support.

  • @sakuracila
    @sakuracila Před 10 měsíci +44

    i was a huge lizzo fan. as a fat person i could identify SO hard with her lyrics, i saw her in concert, i really felt something as someone with a fat body finally being able to really see someone with a similar body type to my own being sexy, successful, confident, and open with mental health struggles. to find out she is this kind of person behind closed doors is infuriating, disappointing, painful. i don't tend to form incredibly parasocial relationships, i never assume i know someone based on a public persona, but i wanted to believe she was a good person doing good work for body positivity. this is so disgusting that she's not only acting as a predator, but also one who is shaming other people's weight. my heart hurts for the dancers in the lawsuit and anyone else she made feel unsafe and bad. i hope they win the case and most importantly that they heal.

  • @crabbycancer6767
    @crabbycancer6767 Před 10 měsíci +23

    Lizzo should've spent her time making friends to go to clubs with instead of dragging her backup dancers with her to be her reluctant posse. And about the poor security guard: how do you force someone you have power over to get naked and not recognize that what you are doing is wrong in every facet?

  • @macebluemoon369
    @macebluemoon369 Před 10 měsíci +47

    Lizzo has always given me bad vibes. None of these accusations would surprise me if proven true.

    • @almondmilksoda
      @almondmilksoda Před 10 měsíci +5

      Same.

    • @moonwsprs
      @moonwsprs Před 10 měsíci +7

      Same!!

    • @southbug27
      @southbug27 Před 10 měsíci +8

      Me too. Even though I like some of her songs, I just disliked her as a person from the beginning with no real reason why except I just had a bad feeling about her. This has happened enough in life that I now know that feeling is an indication the person is a bad person, & I’ll eventually find out the person is abusive, backstabbing, sleeps with other people’s husbands, etc. I wasn’t surprised to find out Lizzo is a horrible person, but I am a little surprised about the fat shaming, & I’m surprised that she hadn’t tried to hide her abusuve treatment of others at all. The fact that the documentary maker quit after only 2 weeks is shocking because it means she doesn’t try to play nice with people outside her inner circle. For someone to go through all the stages of abuse so that they’ll give up a major, career changing opportunity after only 2 weeks tells me that it’s hell on earth to be around Lizzo. I hope she’ll be arrested for public indecency the next time she goes out in public half naked now. I can’t stand the celebrities promoting public nudity in society because I don’t want to look at it, but more importantly, it shouldn’t be forced on little kids.

    • @almondmilksoda
      @almondmilksoda Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@southbug27 Oh man, I relate so much to everything you've said. Her public display at that one basketball game was a huge NO for me, and I had totally forgotten about it as well ... in front of children and families, too. That was totally messed up and inappropriate on so many levels. On top of the Amsterdam story - we're getting a peek into her skewed ethics regarding bodily autonomy, privacy, and decency. She is dangerous.

  • @Solaera
    @Solaera Před 10 měsíci +61

    I used to follow Lizzo on SM. I got very tired of all of the posts of her mostly naked. I don't want to see anyone's naked butt all up in my timeline. It was constant. Then she'd cry to the media about the meanies and the haterz commenting on her body. Rinse and repeat. It all became too much "You're all gonna look at me and you're all gonna like it." I'm not sure if that is body positivity or manipulating a captive audience. Either way, I believe this story because I think Lizzo get off on making people feel uncomfortable.

    • @pinkanimositygaming
      @pinkanimositygaming Před 10 měsíci +26

      I think most sensible people don’t care much about someone’s body weight. It’s the lack of class and lack of impulse control that a lot of people take issue with.

  • @moonwsprs
    @moonwsprs Před 10 měsíci +23

    She has always made my spidey senses tingle. I never saw her as genuinely nice or likeable. Not surprised in the least. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @Mldy96
    @Mldy96 Před 9 měsíci +10

    People can think all they want how fabricated all these statements are... but no one in their right mind would fake admitting to piss themselves out of extreme stress like that. It's one of the most humiliating experiences to lose bodily autonomy like that, especially during such an important time like a dance rehearsal.

  • @benjamintocchi7909
    @benjamintocchi7909 Před 10 měsíci +16

    Never meet the people you admire (and look up to), you'll be disappointed - Proust

  • @mrsnismo
    @mrsnismo Před 10 měsíci +290

    I truly believe (as a chubby girl also) that being deeply involved in body positivity stems from some big insecurities. It really doesn't surprise me that she's body shaming/weight shaming others

    • @LouisaWatt
      @LouisaWatt Před 10 měsíci +47

      She seems obsessed with it. Someone who is actually comfortable and happy with themselves don’t need so much external validation.

    • @honeyandlavender_
      @honeyandlavender_ Před 10 měsíci +42

      They’re actually fighting against each other on who’s a “real fat person” and who gets to cry on tiktok about it and who doesn’t. It’s used to bully and shame others now; turning into what they hate.
      They also really depend on these bigger celebs. Remember when they trashed and body shamed (how ironic…) Adele and Rebel when they lost weight? Literally crying because “they had no one else to represent them”, obsessively hooked on them and finding happiness in others.

    • @jazzisbadatnames
      @jazzisbadatnames Před 10 měsíci +59

      Body neutrality is healthier. You don't have to love it. You don't have to be insecure about it. A body is a body, that's all.

    • @honeyandlavender_
      @honeyandlavender_ Před 10 měsíci +14

      @@jazzisbadatnames I like that.

    • @Mila-Rosa
      @Mila-Rosa Před 10 měsíci +25

      The body positive girlies are the worst offenders when it comes to commenting on other people's bodies

  • @soph6420
    @soph6420 Před 10 měsíci +49

    It’s so hard to find actual role models in todays world and the fact that behind the scenes Lizzo is the type of person that she tries to stand against ( a fat shamer) really just gives me no hope

  • @the_petty_crocker
    @the_petty_crocker Před 10 měsíci +195

    I'm really surprised by how much these allegations against Lizzo bother me. I like a few of her songs, but don't follow her on socials and don't know that much about her. I did think she was a nice, unproblematic, talented person who achieved a lot by working her ass off. I realize now I was rooting for her. I'm a bit saddened by this and can't exactly say why.

    • @chancewill6910
      @chancewill6910 Před 10 měsíci +12

      Maybe because we root for the "underdog" and the people we think are nice. I can understand how bad you feel but it's not your fault, I imagine she's a good liar to get so many fans

    • @cocothedino_2901
      @cocothedino_2901 Před 9 měsíci +3

      i felt the same way only being a fan of a couple of her songs and i think another answer is that her brand and public image is anchored in beliefs of body positivity and respect for others far more than other artists. so while it would still be disappointing to hear a different artist is abusive to their dancers and body shamed, lizzos specific image makes the whole situation reek of hypocrisy and irony. its particularly saddening because she was supposedly standing up against those issues

  • @SparkIeMotion
    @SparkIeMotion Před 10 měsíci +87

    I worked in corporate positions my whole life, started at 16 as a secretary. Literally EVERY SINGLE WORKPLACE I was harrassed, hit on, assaulted, groped and more. One company, my bosse's boss stripped naked and ran into the ocean at night time under a streetlight as i sat frozen by fear in the car with my boss and another male on our team. then my boss stripped down and did the same. They were all drunk. I have a hundred more stories that would blow people's mind.
    My dad was a pastor and i grew up in a household with strict sexual restrictions and no body autonomy. Virginity, mine in particular because I'm the youngest with only an older brother (who also abused me), was always a topic of discussion. Youth pastors hit on me, one night as a deacon drove me home from babysitting for his 2 and 3 year olds, he thought it would be a good idea to pull the car over and tell me he loved me and wanted to be my first. I was 14. There is nowhere safe for a woman. Every man is a potential perpetrator. Now I am mostly a hermit at 45. Isn't life fun?

    • @spooky_shears
      @spooky_shears Před 10 měsíci +39

      I'm so sorry so many people have been that disgusting towards you. I hope you're doing better now

    • @mikanchan322
      @mikanchan322 Před 10 měsíci +12

      I am so, so sorry. That was horrible. You never should've had to go through that. I hope you have found and will find people who are safe and treat you well.

    • @sabsain2399
      @sabsain2399 Před 10 měsíci +9

      I am so sorry. This is was crushing and horrifying to read. I understand if these words may not mean anything but I hope you can further heal and feel safe and you have been SO brave. This is so disgusting and upsetting to learn - what life for women truly is like. I hope every girl and woman stays safe from men somehow or some way.
      I got reminded of men in some deranged subreddit praising this kind of upbringing of women. It makes women have no sexual knowledge, understand of their genitals/sexual organs, if the female orgasm even exists, and aside from being financially dependent on men, their social maneuverability is also so limited that they're basically hermits who don't have any life experience at all. How do you expect someone like that to NOT be completely dependent on men for basic survival? This is what men truly want for women.

    • @SparkIeMotion
      @SparkIeMotion Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@sabsain2399 yep I turned into a hermit to retreat to safety now. It’s lonely but at least I’m safe.

    • @SparkIeMotion
      @SparkIeMotion Před 7 měsíci +2

      Safe so far. Fingers crossed!!

  • @ArcaneThingOfBeauty
    @ArcaneThingOfBeauty Před 10 měsíci +7

    Narcissists tend to do and say contradictory abusive things to keep their victims on their toes. It’s hard to defend oneself when you’re trying to both understand and explain your bully’s/abuser’s irrational behavior. 😕

  • @spooky_shears
    @spooky_shears Před 10 měsíci +36

    Idk how to feel about this, the claims seem a bit extreme but if Lizzo can love Chris Brown, I'm sure she has loose morals and ethics to begin with. And if its enough to go to court, I think she's done for

    • @Redorgreenful
      @Redorgreenful Před 10 měsíci +7

      Lizzo's definitely not a girl's girl.

  • @maenad1231
    @maenad1231 Před 10 měsíci +9

    All of this sounds like a dynamic that includes gratification from control/coercement of people too intimidated to say no and enjoying sadistic humiliation.

  • @ihateeverything9887
    @ihateeverything9887 Před 10 měsíci +35

    One thing I’ve noticed about some of the body positivity people is it’s only about positivity for their bodies. I saw a video about body positivity and many of the comments were about skinny people not getting an opinion, which seems very non inclusive and not very body positive.

    • @froggy5748
      @froggy5748 Před 10 měsíci +11

      Yeah, that’s always made me sad. Meanwhile my body positivity is “every body is good other than mine” lmao

    • @happypenguin25
      @happypenguin25 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@froggy5748Oof I felt this one lmao

    • @BlurryNova
      @BlurryNova Před 10 měsíci +26

      The sad thing is that the body positivity movement was first created for people with physical disabilities. Not body shapes or weight. It wasn't made to shame abled bodies, it was just to bring an educative light to what its like with a disability and humanize those with them.
      It then turned into fat positivity only. Idc abt anyones stance on that, but hijacking a movement for the disabled to uplift somethig else entirely only was pretty fucking gross. Disabled people still use the term, but it's definitely been soiled by the toxic crew who use it to shame those of thinner weights and mask their insecurities behind a veil of "positivity"
      Just saying, if your "positivity" requires you to attack others in any way, then it's just not positivity. I get it, larger weights have been villianized for decades, but idk how bullying others who most of the time have nothing to do with the discrimination is supposed to help your cause.

    • @kimchi2780
      @kimchi2780 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Its redirected aggression stemming from jealousy.

    • @kerenzatheunicorn
      @kerenzatheunicorn Před 10 měsíci +14

      @@BlurryNova Yes yes yes. this is my main 'issue' with the movement. it belonged to disabled people. the majority of disabled people cannot change their bodies. weight is something that naturally fluctuates and can be changed by most people.

  • @Algorithmicgeneratedwordsalad
    @Algorithmicgeneratedwordsalad Před 10 měsíci +12

    And another thing there's no such thing as forced sexual liberation if you're sexually liberated you don't go around trying to force other people to be comfortable at your level true sexual Liberation is understanding everybody has boundaries that don't need to be crossed

  • @hottopiccowboy
    @hottopiccowboy Před 10 měsíci +67

    vigrinity is such a wild concept to me. like who tf made that up. i was raised christian and i kept my v card till i was 20. i thought it'd be some super insane thing that made me feel like a new person, but it wasnt. like i woke up the next morning and was like "i am literally the same person i was yesterday and i feel the same. my life hasnt changed at all. absoultley wild how much weight people put on it

    • @paige5841
      @paige5841 Před 10 měsíci +6

      No one “made it up” it’s just a word to describe someone who hadn’t had sex.

    • @hottopiccowboy
      @hottopiccowboy Před 10 měsíci +16

      @@paige5841 but like
      Why
      And yeah someone had to have made it up. It was actually made to value ones self and technically means "not attached to a man" and a woman who was one in herself.
      It wasn't made up for purity, or to shame women, but to signify a strong woman who's independent.
      And it's also a complete social construct. I have never heard someone call an animal a virgin. It's completely made up by us humans and through the years people have twisted virginity into being something we do for men and not for ourselves. It doesn't appear anywhere in nature
      It was entirely made up.

    • @hottopiccowboy
      @hottopiccowboy Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@nummulite99 the sad reality of our society

    • @Las645
      @Las645 Před 10 měsíci +5

      It literally isn’t made up, you’re being just as annoying about it. You don’t care about your virginity that’s fine and great but it’s not crazy that other people care about it and value it, I’m tired of people making me feel like I’m insane for it. People are allowed to take certain things about themselves seriously, not everyone looks at everything so pragmatically.

    • @Las645
      @Las645 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@nummulite99you guys make everything about men, not everything revolves around them and I’m sick of you guys giving them so much control over everything. Not everything a man says and does matters to everyone.

  • @lovefromwonderland
    @lovefromwonderland Před 10 měsíci +6

    Lizzo’s response was very telling. It was all “Me! Me! Me!”

  • @CaulkMongler
    @CaulkMongler Před 10 měsíci +91

    Even IF Lizzo were innocent in all this - this is the perfect example in why you don’t make friends out of your employees. It only takes a few bruised egos to suddenly turn entirely consensual extreme sexual acts into “I was forced to bc of the power dynamic”.

    • @LindseyPalmer-jx9hw
      @LindseyPalmer-jx9hw Před 10 měsíci +12

      They were forced to be friends w her it seems tho

    • @elle_aye112
      @elle_aye112 Před 10 měsíci +44

      If your work says that you're a family, run.

    • @sabsain2399
      @sabsain2399 Před 10 měsíci +18

      ?? What is this comment? That's literally how power dynamics work??
      Wtf. Do you think a secretary under a boss is not being influenced by the innate power dynamic that exists no matter what even if they consent to it?

  • @koyelimukherjee.3115
    @koyelimukherjee.3115 Před 10 měsíci +7

    When a worker complain against a big corporation or their boss everyone ready to believe them, but when it comes to celebrities, somehow its so unbelievable. Like entertainment world totally don't profit of of low paid workers and powertrip.

  • @Varikas
    @Varikas Před 10 měsíci +34

    I used to be big into the body positivity community but honestly it became so toxic… so I felt sus about Lizzo from the beginning but yknow you can’t like… dislike popular figures without being accused of hating popular things for clout

  • @Scar3cr0wwx
    @Scar3cr0wwx Před 9 měsíci +5

    I really don't believe that being unhealthy should be idolized, and now we know lizzo is both unhealthy physically and mentally. I truly hope she seeks help.

  • @MissShembre
    @MissShembre Před 10 měsíci +6

    It feels like it's a horrible mismatch between a hella sexually comfortable/innapropriate boss in a power dynamic with a group of people pleasers who weren't able to say no to things they were VERY uncomfortable doing. It sounds like the employees were very hurt, but they didn't walk away from a golden opportunity that was in itself hurting them. They should have let the rope go as soon as they became uncomfortable, but I can see why they tried to stick it out. Everybody should feel confident leaving a job that doesn't allow you to go to the bathroom. The Quiggly stuff is friggin weird though.

  • @bessieburnet9816
    @bessieburnet9816 Před 10 měsíci +48

    I never thought of her as an icon. I always saw her for what she was. An arrogant brat whose ego is ten times her size. As a chubby black girl myself, I have no issue with bigger people. One celeb I consider genuinely perfect, flaws and all, is Alison Hammond. But she takes body positivity way too far into toxic territory. I could see right through it. Anyone who acts like that is not a good person.

    • @Abby-zk3bl
      @Abby-zk3bl Před 10 měsíci +4

      Alison is SO FUNNY, i love her❤

    • @bessieburnet9816
      @bessieburnet9816 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@Abby-zk3bl I have always adored her. An actual genuine human being.

  • @sams_path_726
    @sams_path_726 Před 10 měsíci +14

    Unrelated comment:
    Loving that purple highlighter, instantly noticed it as soon as I clicked

  • @marooon9814
    @marooon9814 Před 9 měsíci +5

    16:02 - 17:37 - Thank you. Somewhat off topic but this portion of the video hit home so much harder for me than I think you realize. I was raised Roman Catholic, and the concept of virginity has shaped me as a person in lots of very frustrating ways. Even worse, despite being a 22 or so year old woman at the time, when my older sister found out I had lost my virginity - she lost her mind. She got super upset with me and guilted me for it, and on top of that complained to me how she was so proud of me and would BRAG to her friends about me being innocent, which only added to her own disappointment. It was bizarre and extremely uncomfortable, I hated it and how it made me feel. Its exactly what I was trying to discredit when choosing to be sexually active. Your words were INCREDIBLY validating and comforting. Thank you, you said it perfectly

  • @NighttimeBird
    @NighttimeBird Před 10 měsíci +9

    So I’m gonna play devil’s advocate here. Employer to employee relationship may differ a lot from business to business. Let’s say Lizzo and her cast and crew were always open to be sexually free, go to strip clubs, etc. However, three new employees might enter the group and not be part of the same dynamic. It’s hard to tell. I do understand we should always be careful about the lines we cross in professional environments because if one out of 100 people disagree with a practice, there’s a problem. However, in a more artistic environment we feel like we might be less formal and treat others as though they’re friends. I’ve seen a lot, trust me. But I do agree that it was very ill-managed to just assume that EVERYONE was in the same wagon.

    • @steffymuze
      @steffymuze Před 10 měsíci +1

      Agreed, plus I was thinking why didn't the one take the time off when it was offered? Would that have avoided the further mess (er no pun intended) Due to the pressure of the situation and likely losing their job entirely is my guess. Not right no matter what happened or why, though.

    • @lindenshepherd6085
      @lindenshepherd6085 Před 9 měsíci

      The time off came with the stigma of “not working hard enough,” she was very (realistically) afraid of her taking PTO being used against her.

  • @Iflie
    @Iflie Před 10 měsíci +10

    Lizzo wanted to hire entourage who had to be "loyal". That's just sick, they are trying to keep the job in a almost non existent market of overweight dancers so they would feel like pleasing her when she had such unreasonable demands. And a person who has nothing to gain by saying it as they are not in the lawsuit said the stories echo her experiences working for Lizzo. It's a job, you are not the mob, they do not have to be your friends and little mini me's.

  • @MagicalIsadore
    @MagicalIsadore Před 9 měsíci +5

    When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. People know themselves much better than you do. That’s why it’s important to stop expecting them to be something other than who they are. - Maya Angelou

  • @ffa2dramachick
    @ffa2dramachick Před 10 měsíci +30

    I know NOTHING about lizzo... But the allegations should be very provable, as they're incredibly outrageous... If not, it'll be their word against hers... Which doesn't work out well for plaintiffs...

    • @paigemosher8697
      @paigemosher8697 Před 9 měsíci

      I think the pending lawsuit may mean that any evidence against her that's not already publicly available had to be handed over to the court and now can't be released again until the proceedings are over.
      If they had this evidence at their disposal and they wanted to rally support, they should have released at least something BEFORE filing the lawsuit. Strange that the first I learned about the situation has been nothing but hearsay...

  • @MrJimmyTide
    @MrJimmyTide Před 10 měsíci +3

    MORAL OF THE STORY: Don’t put nanners in your hoo-hoo.

  • @mirandasummerset
    @mirandasummerset Před 10 měsíci +10

    YOUR SHIRT THO!!! iconic

  • @dancingonthe3dge
    @dancingonthe3dge Před 10 měsíci +6

    @ 15:25 you say how sexual harassment and Christianity don't align in your mind. I like to share my perspective as someone who grew up in a very abusive household. Those things do align, they are used as weapons and rules and shame and guilt in Christian abusive households. I wonder if lizzo came from such a family, hasn't gone to therapy, and is repeating the trauma she grew up with.
    It's just a thought...

    • @MagicalIsadore
      @MagicalIsadore Před 9 měsíci

      Can confirm. Christian-raised women grow up with an internalized Madonna-Whore complex. This situation can seem bizarre to those who have never been around the same culture, but it isn't surprising at all to me.

  • @ChrisCherchant
    @ChrisCherchant Před 10 měsíci +4

    I love how this story keeps going back to bananas, among all the wild accusations.

  • @katherinedonovan974
    @katherinedonovan974 Před 10 měsíci +10

    I'm seeing people in the comments on different videos about Lizzo, the people in the comments saying to body shame her and they excuse it by saying: "She body shamed others so we should do it back." And I was like: "No, we'd be bad as her." Some people agree with me so no matter what actions Lizzo has done, don't be a bully back. It won't solve anything.

    • @SQUID0NKEY
      @SQUID0NKEY Před 9 měsíci +1

      Thats a nice thing you said. Just because someone does something bad doesnt mean we all should go down the same road.
      We still can disagree with people or criticize them without disrespecting them.
      Behavior like that just showas that those people are hateful and petty.
      If you have morals you stand behind them no mather what. Its pretty hypocritical to me that we fatshame someone because they fatshamed in the first place.

    • @katherinedonovan974
      @katherinedonovan974 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@SQUID0NKEY Your comment made me smile, I'm so glad. But it's true, we cannot become the ones who tormented us. I get it, people are cruel but we can't be the ones to reflect that same behavior. I am guilty of doing that in the past however my mom taught me that revenge is not the answer. But I am getting better and now I'm seeing patterns of this in others and we need to do better.

    • @SQUID0NKEY
      @SQUID0NKEY Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@katherinedonovan974 we all are not 100% perfect. I sure did that sometime in the past. But I think refelcting about it and trying to do better is proof that you are trying to do the right thing. But in the end, sometimes there is no such thing as the right thing. And sometimes people do horrible stuff and we say something mean to get them out of our lifes. And sometimes thats fine.
      But I'm glad I saw your comment. It shows that there are a few people on the internet left that dont hide behind anonymity to make peoples lifes worse. Answering hate with hate just ends in a loop. A loop out of hate. And that sadly is happening on the internet a lot of times.

    • @katherinedonovan974
      @katherinedonovan974 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@SQUID0NKEY I'm glad you saw it too, but I don't mean to bring Christianity into this but it's appropriate: Whether you believe in the Devil, he's there to cause hatred in people's hearts, he wants to spread this havoc but with God, he wants us to see this havoc and not repeat the same things. I know some people cannot choose love and pick hate, but that's how life is and I pray people will see the error of their ways.

    • @SQUID0NKEY
      @SQUID0NKEY Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@katherinedonovan974 well I'm not really religous in church kind of way. To me its more a personal thing.
      I'm just all in on the live and let live. Spread love and not hate. And I think the bible has some truly strong messages when it comes to things like that. I translated it from latin for some latin studies and its facinating how many things where lost translating that book ober and over again.
      But yes, people should live their lifes and call people out that do mean things, but most of the time things can get solved on a respectful level. Except someone is treating you like poo... in that case even I would make an exception. You dont owe people respect that disrespect you on a deep personal level...

  • @ivyg1637
    @ivyg1637 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Did we all forget how Lizzo came out as a huge Chris Brown fan like a year ago? I knew then that she was a bad person

  • @lavp365
    @lavp365 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Innocent until proven guilty is the standard for criminal trials, not civil suits. the burden of evidence is much less in civil cases and you don’t have to prove things “beyond a reasonable doubt.”
    Love your videos!

  • @aireyb5785
    @aireyb5785 Před 10 měsíci +5

    It's like the video you touched on with Demi Lovato. People need to stop glamorizing these celebrities. Eventually everyone disappoints. Just couldn't believe it 😔

    • @tashamott
      @tashamott Před 10 měsíci +2

      what did demi do?!

    • @aireyb5785
      @aireyb5785 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@tashamott old news but she OD'd and people were saying she was a bad role model for kids because of her drug use

  • @miss.behave
    @miss.behave Před 10 měsíci +6

    I would love if you could look into and make a video about Bam Margeras guardian or ex guardian Lima Jevremovic.

  • @This_Person6599
    @This_Person6599 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I’ve been waiting for you to cover this! You look great btw love the hair 🖤🖤 Also holy crap your shirt is iconic

  • @aparna2701
    @aparna2701 Před 10 měsíci +5

    I know it sounds like BS, but I knew Lizzo was a phony well before this event, because of the way she preaches body positivity.

  • @norte80110
    @norte80110 Před 10 měsíci +14

    Someone who speaks truths

  • @dear-pixel-heart
    @dear-pixel-heart Před 10 měsíci +5

    I love your videos, because of your research, how thorough you are, honest, and concise with your facts, points and opinions. I much prefer your commentary than other channels ❤️

  • @missmiadelrey
    @missmiadelrey Před 10 měsíci +2

    The second I see you’ve posted a new video, the whole world goes on pause. I could be in the middle of my own funeral, & I’m shutting it down to hear what you have to say.
    Love you ❤

  • @ovenbakedtwink
    @ovenbakedtwink Před 9 měsíci +2

    off topic but omg im obsessed with your shirt

  • @AnotherEmily
    @AnotherEmily Před 10 měsíci +18

    Not relevant to the video, I'm afraid, but MASSIVE congratulations on getting into your PhD programme! May we both become doctors

  • @bitsmagtv
    @bitsmagtv Před 10 měsíci +8

    It's so sad, so sad... I used to like Lizzo so much!

  • @GypsyEyes
    @GypsyEyes Před 10 měsíci +6

    i came for the twilight shirt

  • @nomg563
    @nomg563 Před 9 měsíci +5

    People need to STOP IDOLIZING celebrities. People get upset with celebs when they start doing dumb crap because they were the ones holding them to some crazy level. She did not do great things at all (quite frankly the claims are repugnant) but fans also are to blame for their own dissapointment because they are so far up celebrities asses. It just needs to stop.

  • @emmalouisefalk
    @emmalouisefalk Před 10 měsíci +2

    Girl you're at 666k Subscribers 🖤🖤🖤

  • @tashacooper1753
    @tashacooper1753 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I’d be surprised but most people that act nice are terrible people

  • @Kris7ification
    @Kris7ification Před 10 měsíci +2

    I hope the dancers do well in court 🙏 Your shirt is so iconic ✨

  • @tigerisanewt
    @tigerisanewt Před 10 měsíci +8

    Can we talk about how she has 666k subs tho 💀

  • @Bobbymaccys
    @Bobbymaccys Před 9 měsíci +3

    3:34 “the good work I’ve done in the world”… if Lizzo thinks making mid music is doing good in the world she’s in for a shock 😂😂😂

  • @dahlia2418
    @dahlia2418 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I've literally been waiting for a video on this because I can't stand the drama commentary channels repeating the same 5 things with no research

  • @Deadpool4president
    @Deadpool4president Před 10 měsíci +3

    I think Quiggly is a different person from Lizzo, right? Lizzo was sexual while Quiggly was religious

  • @zellanutellaa
    @zellanutellaa Před 10 měsíci +2

    Ayyyeee the twilight shirt!

  • @EyeoftheWhiteWolf
    @EyeoftheWhiteWolf Před 9 měsíci +3

    Sorry not about Lizzo, but the whole coworkers at a strip club thing reminded me how many times I've heard of men doing "business meetings" at a strip club and I've always thought that was super gross!

  • @Dilophomasnaurus
    @Dilophomasnaurus Před 10 měsíci +4

    Please leave the bananas alone

  • @ikniet5032
    @ikniet5032 Před 8 měsíci

    Omg I love your shirt!

  • @MagnoliaPantherWoman
    @MagnoliaPantherWoman Před 4 měsíci

    This is the best coverage commentary I've seen on these allegations. The others were group interviews. I like the natural advocacy in your commentary on this. You make points simple and clear.
    I recommend watching Big Girls if you want to see for yourself. The dancers are constantly told they can be fired atm. Lizzo and the team also put the dancers through a sexual expression and modesty test that crossed personal boundaries both physical and religous imo.

  • @kingofallmediums2123
    @kingofallmediums2123 Před 10 měsíci +2

    “Good work in the world.” 😳

  • @violaghiringhelli5698
    @violaghiringhelli5698 Před 9 měsíci +1

    20:53 - 23:01
    THESE WORDS ARE PURE GOLD

  • @sarahamaris5383
    @sarahamaris5383 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I love all your videos but I really miss the good ol days of wig videos, would you ever do them again? 💚

  • @elliotthurley1156
    @elliotthurley1156 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Your subscribers are at 666k lol I love it

  • @MythologicaYT
    @MythologicaYT Před 9 měsíci

    im existing for the edward shirt lolol

  • @Someonefreshandclean
    @Someonefreshandclean Před 10 měsíci

    I don't know why, but just the first few seconds your impression gives me I am done. That made me laugh out loud. It like here we go again

  • @Amnesiumm
    @Amnesiumm Před 9 měsíci

    holy sht you're literally on 666k subs atm! gorl

  • @eewahnah
    @eewahnah Před 10 měsíci +1

    Apparently 6 more witnesses have come up as of this week

  • @lexiisded
    @lexiisded Před 10 měsíci

    pff topic love your shirt

  • @azaleawinchester
    @azaleawinchester Před 10 měsíci

    Love the shirt

  • @ToddSweeney341
    @ToddSweeney341 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Just Subscribed 😊

  • @KittySnicker
    @KittySnicker Před 10 měsíci +2

    I hope they didn’t get STD’s from eating those Bananas

    • @lindenshepherd6085
      @lindenshepherd6085 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Probably not, sex work is pretty well regulated in Amsterdam.

  • @wulfispissed9151
    @wulfispissed9151 Před 10 měsíci

    I love the twilight t-shirt.

  • @einienj3281
    @einienj3281 Před 10 měsíci +5

    I'm not sure what to think yet.. but I guess there has to be some kind of evidence for an investigation and a lawsuit.. disappointing. And I'm not a fan of her music, but I liked the body positivety message. Oh well.. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @ffa2dramachick
      @ffa2dramachick Před 10 měsíci +1

      I think the allegations are so outrageous that their has to be proof in order for them to do anything in court...

    • @einienj3281
      @einienj3281 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@ffa2dramachickExactly.

  • @kingofallmediums2123
    @kingofallmediums2123 Před 10 měsíci

    Mr. Quigley, from All In The Family? 😆

  • @shannond1511
    @shannond1511 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I was considering resubscribing but you’re at 666,000 subscribers

  • @shroomchicachica
    @shroomchicachica Před 10 měsíci +1

    I've listened to her music too and it's cool. I felt weird about her in a mysterious way. I would look at her while watching her interviews or while on a show where she gave a tour of her home, and felt like she has a different side to her but was trying too hard to seem nice. There's something about her that would make me change the channel on the radio. So when I heard this news I automatically thought to not judge because I wasn't there. I can't help but believe the allegations. I dated a musician and I know what it's like. The stuff that happens is too much for a lot of people to deal with. What they said is believable. And I was reminded that sometimes some of us are sensitive to energy and can feel vibes. There is something that lizzo needs to work on and own up to. I think that all the support she received for trying to bring something visually new to music performance really got to her and made her think she's invisible and can get away with anything. That's not cool. She needs some humble pie.
    As for you I really like your t-shirt and background. It's simple but it's still giving wholesome classic youtuber and I really like it. And I appreciate your take on this. Your opinions were on point.

  • @ufos-cos
    @ufos-cos Před 10 měsíci +1

    SIX MORE DANCERS CAME OUT SINCE IT BROKE. LIZZO’s screwed 😂😂😂

  • @Algorithmicgeneratedwordsalad
    @Algorithmicgeneratedwordsalad Před 10 měsíci +1

    As a fat girl I have spent time around fat girls that are try hard it's like they're trying to be an edgelord and a pick me at the same time

  • @conniest.germain260
    @conniest.germain260 Před 10 měsíci

    Unrelated but that t-shirt really ties this altogether

  • @Goldennfoxx
    @Goldennfoxx Před 10 měsíci

    Love your tshirt

  • @kingofallmediums2123
    @kingofallmediums2123 Před 10 měsíci

    Glare, your so fair! 😍😘😘

  • @Noah60
    @Noah60 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Those dancers have way much to loose if they arent believed, they wont get hired by other celebrities... I doubt they would risk saying something not true when their whole career is at risk...

  • @peachy_exe.
    @peachy_exe. Před 10 měsíci +1

    i never thought she was a icon and i never liked her music always heard it against my will

  • @photoboyjet
    @photoboyjet Před 9 měsíci

    I used to work in an office and once had a postcard announcing an upcoming art show pinned to the wall of my cubicle. The card featured an abstract brush and ink drawing of male and female torsos viewed from the rear. The artist used as few lines as possible to illustrate the two bodies, requiring a bit of study to understand what the image was. To see the card, one had to come into my cubicle. I was told by my boss to remove the card as it could be considered a form of sexual harassment or creating a toxic workplace to display the image where co-workers could see it. Encouraging employees to attend and participate in sexual acts at a strip club (in Amsterdam, some clubs feature actual sex performances) is more than sexual harassment.