How To Avoid Injury As An Athlete (Science Explained) No Stone Unturned
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Staying injury-free is what allows athletes to compete at the highest level and push their bodies to uncharted territory.
I've conquered mountains and lifted unimaginable weights, but to truly see what the human body is capable of, I'm exploring every recovery method available in the pursuit of leaving "No Stone Unturned".
Welcome to episode 1 of 12, Chiropractics and Physiotherapy. In this 12-part documentary series, we dive deep into the uncharted territories of human physical potential to shed some light on what works and what doesn't.
At the end of each video, I'm going to provide a score based on three crucial aspects: Personal Enjoyment, The Scientific Evidence, and The Practicality for the Average Athlete. You'll be able to compare it to the other dimensions of this series.
I hope you enjoy and please share your thoughts in the comments.
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Treatment Options for Low Back Pain in Athletes
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Treating low back pain in athletes: a systematic review with meta-analysis
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Is Electrical Stimulation Effective in Preventing or Treating Delayed-onset Muscle Soreness (DOMS) in Athletes and Untrained Adults?
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00:00 Introduction
02:38 Injury History & Movement Assessment
10:02 Chiropractic Adjustment & Pain Management
13:30 My Personal Experience
20:48 What The Science Says
23:39 My Opinion & Score - Sport
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you are showing everyone why you are a winner at the age you are in the wsm which is fantastic
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@@mitchellhooperstrongman Right on! I do love the Chocolate Mint Diesel
@@mitchellhooperstrongman pain ( chronic especially) is always complex because it's our danger sense, it almost always consist of biopsychosocial nets of stressors and if youbä want to treat it you should adress all of them. A book i can recomment on the matter is *explain pain* by butler and moesley it gives a good grasp on what pain actually is physiologically
This is like watching a professional documentary on tv, very impressive will definitely watch the whole series.
Fabian crushed it - mark you calendar! Every Sunday for the next 11 weeks 💪💪
@@mitchellhooperstrongman NOTED, Absolute top-notch content and great video quality.
Im a PT in the US and I will say that there’s a ton of BS and fluff in the outpatient PT world so buyer beware. Especially for performance enhancement. Schooling does not teach much for performance and in my experience most PTs don’t know shit and will waste your time. It has to be function or limitation focused instead of some random voodoo. I personally think you have to be careful of chasing a “perfect textbook motion.” Beware when PTs over complicate things. “Motor retraining” is a wild goose chase and the body doesn’t often retain the “training.” I love the summary at the end. I think the most helpful thing is to get a sense of how a person is getting hurt and what is aggravating it, and adjusting and addressing things for the person specifically. Back pain can have so many causes and it’s hard for meta analyses to pin point one answer fit all. Continued heavy squat stress versus “throwing your back out” are very different causes and treatment paths.
"Perfect textbook motion" is an interesting concept. Just the difference in how people squat is enormous. Knees together Sam Sulek vs Westside multi-ply 180 degree knees squat. Good luck standardizing that. It's a huge range.
The PTs I work with would very politely disagree with most of what the guy in this video did. You don't need to overcomplicate things, and there were some very questionable things being done with resistance bands. He was right about the bulging discs though, there's really no correlation to dysfunction or pain
@nebbie - my thoughts from watching not just this video, but several of Mitch's videos that your PT background may be able to provide insight into my skepticism are that there could be a chance making his movement more symmetrical may be detrimental to his performance in certain lifts he makes in spite of benefitting others.
Point of note - Mitch has noted multiple times about having differing femur lengths. Not uncommon, none of our bodies are symmetrical. With things like squats, deadlifts, leg press, etc - is it possible that the asymmetrical loads this PT was giving him techniques to address are actually what is his bodies natural method of overcoming that skeletal imbalance? Will making his body move in unison and recruit muscular responses at the same time on both sides diminish what his body currently does to overcome this natural imbalance?
Also an observation from this and other videos - Mitch has commented in the past that looking up during overhead presses will increase your strength. Doesn't do a thing for my strength - but watching how this PT was looking at strength and discomfort with different head positions - does this also lend to the adaptations his body has made for lower limb imbalances by allowing his head position to be a determining factor in strength output - and as with the question above, would removing that equation have a negative impact to his performance?
My body is beaten to the core from a childhood of stupidity, but it has adapted to allow me to perform and improve in its abilities around its limitations. I've tried working on aligning things and making everything work in unison and it helps for a short period of time, then seems to go backwards.
@@shaungregory1827 Dude I agree with all your points, and looking at the evidence in the literature, it's just hard to believe PTs, not saying they sell snake oil, but I don't think they have a permanent solution but rather a patch for the journey, and it also might be placebo, I haven't looked at the literature comparing both tho. The body will naturally find the most efficient way to move given what it's got, and changing those patterns might be worse in the long run.
I 2nd this, also work in the field
This is SO valuable in a time where so many "medical pros" have the silver bullet answer to your pain. Thank you for taking the time to make this content.
Amazing, what did you find the most useful about this episode?
That's a hilarious answer when both the people he spoke to expressed no sense of uncertainty, and claimed to have specific things to address broad injuries and pain issues. Literally what you were complaining medical pros would do (which they would not for ethical malpractice reasons), they did with each weird statement after the next
@@TerriblyNice_Not I mean they both basically said the same thing: that the goal was to get the joints moving like they should be. It was a fairly broad, logical explanation and not a 'magic silver bullet'.
@@joebloggs6922 It's also so vague a description of their goals as to be almost meaningless.
@@rasmus9895 Not particularly. I think what they said made sense (to me anyway)
As a young doctor (working towards becoming a sports and exercise medicine physician) this is refreshing. An elite athlete doing good research and not just spouting anecdotes and trying to sell stuff. Love it
I’m an EP like Mitchell. Chiropractic works through massage and stretching. Spinal manipulation itself will cause more injury to discs and nerves. Chiropractic was originally based on magic if you look up the history of the profession. Spiritual healing with magnets therapy. And keep your hands off the children. Physio is hit or miss depending on knowledge and experience which is similar to EPs. Be wary of a therapist that uses a lot of jargon or buzz words.
stoked about this video, balancing pushing myself and injury avoidance is something im constantly wondering about
This series is going to blow up. Thanks for putting this together and sharing this knowledge with everyone, Mitch! Loving watching you get better and better at video creation!
Excited for the rest of the series. I just stared seeing a chiro and physio for back bain so this was very informative.
Absolutely love this kind of content!!!!! Excited about the rest of these videos! Thank you!!!!
As someone that wants to push his body in the sport of powerlifting (despite not being anywhere near the level of an elite athlete), i've definitely found a GOOD physio/chiro has always been a really good investment. Out of the many I have seen, i've always found that a good physio will always assess, establish a plan, sometimes manual therapy/manipulation and provide corrective exercises while explaining the purpose of those exercises.
Apart from feeling and moving better in my sport and everyday life, it has always given me a huge amount of knowledge about my body and enabled me to self-diagnose a lot of my smaller niggles and add in the appropriate corrective exercises to improve the pain before it become chronic or an acute injury.
Been looking forward to this! Cant wait to see the rest of the series
Thanks Mitch, I quite enjoyed this episode and I love the concept. Looking forward to nthe next one!
Ep1 and hooked already. As a, sporty, 61yr old who wants to enjoy a fit and healthy retirement it is really good to get an elite athlete, with intelligence and good communication skills, doing a critical analysis of the various pain and health management techniques available to one and all.
Looking forward to Ep2!!
Thanks Mitch
Great video, very useful as well. Looking forward to the next episodes. Thank you very much
Brilliant, very well done, very well presented. Excited for the rest of this series.
Great video mitch, can't wait for the next episode
So excited for the rest of this series!
This was a great video and is going to be a great series! Thanks for doing this
One of your best videos by far Moose. Keep them coming
What you said about finding a good physiotherapist matches my experience so well.
I lost 4 years of my powerlifting career to constant injuries to my right hamstring because no one would ever tell me how to fix the cause of injury. It was always just immediate pain relief, pseudoscientific therapy that did nothing or sometimes not even that. Took all that time for me to finally find a physiotherapist at my gym who has actually worked with powerlifters before. Did a quick assessment (which no one had even done before, lol), told me what wasn't working properly, did some manipulation the first time, so I could move better immediately and then gave me a list of exercises and progressions to fix the issue myself. That was 6 years ago. Haven't injured my hamstring since.
Great episode. Looking forward to the series.
Absolutely amazing series, as an anatomy/ movement nerd I am so excited for the next parts! Mitch delivering, as always 🥹🙌
Great video. Will watch the whole series for sure. Congratulations.
What a really well produced and presented show, there's going to be a boat load of information in this series. Keep up the good work!
This was awesome. Really looking forward to those top and bottom fives!
This is so good! Can't wait for more
Really interesting video! Can´t wait for the later episodes.
Really liked this, looking forward to the rest of the series!
Awesome video. Was already a subscriber, but this one made me turn on notifications. Looking forward to the next episode.
This is so valuable, informative and well made! Thank you!
Can't wait for the rest of this series
Super interesting and informative. I love not only the science that is shared but also your personal experience and opinion of it. You are so well spoken and knowledgeable on these things in general but adding all the other components makes this a great series to watch. Love it!
What a Banger, thanks Mr. Hooper
The quality of the episode was pretty amazing, very good job with this! Keep up the good work, and thank you for your time and effort looking into these things, definitely some considerable points in there!
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So incredibly detailed, Fabian the production quality on this is outrageous
I’ll be sure to pass the message along 💪
Really nice idea and good perpose exicited to see the next episode soon!!!
Dude this came out so well. The way you spoke has gotten more professional while still keeping it real and down to earth.
I really enjoyed this as it's been something I think about now that I train harder and I'm 38 yrs old. Well done video and look forward to the rest of the series
Amazing, glad you enjoyed it! Mark your calendar every Sunday for the next 11 weeks!
@@mitchellhooperstrongman hell yes!
This is going to be awesome! Love the info
Amazing watch. Great information
Im currently studying the physiotherapist-program over in Sweden and your description of the occupation is somewhat different to what we are taught here. There seems to be a wide variety of physiotherapy in different parts of the world, or what is called physiotherapy at least. In my studies so far, no matter what area we have been studying, the basic level one assessment and treatment is physical function through movement. Things like TENS are used if the movement training isnt quite working as we wouldve liked, not as the primary option. We also learn to treat long term problems, not limited to short term. Very good video overall, looking forward to the rest!
Excited to see the rest of these. I think some sort of ‘better sleep or sleep recovery’ will be in the top 2 of your list.
Excited for this series!!! Thank you Mitch❤LHBK
When I was young, I was a competitive swimmer, then I got into weight lifting, then got caught in office life, then I got interested in strongman and just being strong and now I'm getting older and drive a city bus for a living... Through it all I've found that chiropractic treatment has helped a great deal with not just feeling better, but functioning better as well. The one thing I think is important is finding a quality practitioner someone who listens, and takes the time to treat. I know many who go in and their appointments are 15min long. When I go, mine are 30-60 minutes. Also, I have found that ART is the most useful type of chiropractic treatment.
Unrivalled content!!...informative, relatable for the average Joe...and inspiring. One more year like last year and you are gonna blow up buddy... get ready!!
As a physio myself I hate that we are mostly depicted as better masseurs... You want to move you have to move. Our Job is to examine and find the problem and give corrective movements and/or strengthening exercises.
Good physiotherapy for MSK is mostly just personal training from someone with really good knowledge of anatomy and physiology, yep. One of the PTs I work with basically never uses modalities. He does a ton of IKN stuff and his patients usually need way fewer treatments before discharge
@@rando5673 basicly yes, Most Important the human Body isnt as fragile as the doctors think. I'm doing Powerlifting and have national records, my only injuries so far had nothing to do with it. Accidents in paragliding and gymnastics...
I've been looking forward to this series! Thanks for doing this
Glad you enjoyed it, what was your biggest take away?
@@mitchellhooperstrongman Thank you! Biggest takeaway is reinforcing finding pain free movements you can do while injured and doing them, even if just walking. I learned this from some of your previous videos and Ben Patrick but it's neat to see you trying all the potential recovery methods
As an amature athlete approaching my 40s I am always injured in some way..
Now I have a heel bursa and when that is healed it will be something else.. I am following your series!!
i feel that! ive had knee, ac joint and now my bloody elbow. theres always pain, but its better than being a fat lazy bastard that will die young!
@@V8ToYywipe the blood off your elbow!
@@V8ToYy you'll just suffer for longer.
Excellent video, Mitch!
you educating other people is the best. thx. for this
Awesome video. Can't wait for the other ones!
Great, what was your biggest take away?
PT in New Zealand here. Love the series and your opinion on relevance for athletes and every day people.
Top quality video, very interesting. I had physio for low back pain as a teenager - electrical stimulation and stuff - and I dunno if it ever actually did anything. I continued to have lower back issues but eventually I stopped worrying about it so much and focused on strengthening it. Also, I've always seen chiropractors as total quacks.
Excellent video! I've personally found a good chiropractor to be a huge asset in keeping my body moving well. I was also very impressed with your PT
Can’t wait to watch the whole series!!!
Mark it in your calendar - every Sunday for the next 12 weeks 💪💪
It's great to finally see a gifted and phenomenal athlete like Mitch give such educational and slick videos, edited to a netflix standard. He's not just giving advise he's testing it out for us to make up our own minds. Looking forward to the next episode.
Very clear, good video. Thank you
That was really cool seeing the PT diagnose and isolate L1 weakness. I fractured my neck a couple years ago and since then have had trap/shoulder blade tightness etc that I haven't figured out how to improve. Saw a couple physiotherapists and like you mentioned they did a bit of stretching, IMS, tens which helped momentarily but doesn't help fix the issue long term. This video helped confirm that I should continue searching for a good movement/exercise focused PT that might be able to help. I have wondered if a good personal trainer would be capable of helping in this regard as well but haven't tried that.
Fantastic episode!
As someone who's had his third relatively successful microdiscectomy last year, I'm paying attention. Loving the production value. Good job, team.
23:30 Thank you Hooper, I needed to hear this
Physio here! Interesting to see Tom’s perspective but I don’t think many everyday people need “dural mobility” assessments. Movement and exercise should be our main focus - getting you back to your normal life/goals with the least complicated solution possible.
Really high quaality content dude, keep it up
Love this series
Can't wait for the whole series!
Put it in your calendar, every Sunday for the next 11 weeks!
Great video. Was a physio before retraining as medical doctor. I think your take aways on point
Mitch, that video of you holding the trophy, you're looking impressive! Best of luck!
I enjoyed this format and I am looking forward to what comes next in the series. Just as a side note, for me the "doing nothing" made my back pain worse progressively, it wasn't until I saw a good physio and started lifting again that things improved. The physio clinic was aligned with the work of Lorimer Mosley and I found it really helpful. He has a ted talk video about why things hurt that's a good watch.
Thanks for making great content, I'm currently studying physiotherapy at university 🙂.
great contents! thank you
Really useful information thank you!
Personally, I love this. I'm stoked to see your assessment of all the different modalities that people use to heal and prevent injury. I have several different certifications in manual therapy and personal training and have been working to help people live their optimal lives for more than a decade. It's wild to me that people will think that they need to get correction multiple times a month for the rest of their lives. If you're not seeing measurable progress move on. And simply put, most people just need to move more and eat a bit better.
For someone that is in physiotherapy school right now but also has been doing bodybuilding/weightlifting for years, this is super interesting and reassuring.
I'll be watching every episode
EDIT: To cover your point about movement, we have a subject called movement theory which is all about movement and one of the most interesting subjects I've ever had in any institute. I gotta say our teacher is also very very good.
Dang man your body comp is looking amazing for a strong man! Killer
Series like this and Strength Unknown by Martins & Romark are so money for getting outsiders into strongman. Excellent quality with universal appeal, and strong staying power.
Really took Eddie’s advice to heart which is amazing. What did he say even if it only increases you by 1percent at this level translates to a huge improvement
This is a great series and #1 has to be something super fundamental like sleep/exercise/diet
Great start
Thanks. Always great content here. 😊
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Good job Mitch, year's after my L4-L5 and T7 issues I found that the McKenzie Method (physiotherapist Robin McKenzie) was most effective when I was dealing with the associated muscle pain and spasms.
Love this!
The physiotherapist was amazing, I can see all your local subs booking in to see him!
Great video
I found physiotherapy good but you find out after a few sessions that most maintenance can be done by yourself. I found for back pain that i had for a long time doing glute exercises helped alot. As you said sometimes just keeping your body moving loosens your body. Another great episode!
This is amazing. I got my MRI results, and I have at least 5 bulging discs. I have some of the same stiffness/pains as you, mostly on the right side. I'm looking forward to the whole series! Go team Moose!
I have a great chiropractor at the moment. He's always said come see me when you hurt or if possible, just before. He says most people need 3 visits a year. I've also had 2 massages now. For me, it seems to be more of a stop situation. For 1 hour, it keeps me on hold. And it don't feel awful. This is gonna be a awesome set of videos oli feel ill return to a lot.
Hey Mitchell, thanks for the video. I enjoyed it. I lift weights recreationally and I see Dr. Spencer Bell in Orillia, ON bi-weekly. Looking forward to the next instalment.
There’s a reason why chiropractic care is criticised. It has the ability to open you up and make you incredibly vulnerable in certain lifting movements. It’s all well and good adjusting people but unless patients are thoroughly educated about what has happened and what they need to do next, it’s totally reckless. It’s how serious injuries occur.
First port of call should ALWAYS be a competent physio.
As a Physical Therapist and strength athlete, I really found this video refreshing. I would say, in general, a diverse level of experience and understanding in outpatient PT exists. Even as a student, I found my clinical instructors taking a step back and allowing me to more or less do my thing, rather than direct my intervention. I think it is because general outpatient PT is not the same as a sports PT even though it is the same setting. I think practitioners need to know when to refer and do so earlier to give a patient or athlete a positive healthcare system experience.
Great first episode and looking forward to the series. Only thing I wish you had highlighted more is the variety and fundamentals of chiropractic because for most people it is more of a scam than a treatment and most people don't realize they aren't spine doctors. Simple back pain is the best foot forward and they still have basically no evidence for anything they do beyond massage. That's a pretty low benefit for something that isn't cheap and has real risks.
This is so incredibly interesting. I just recently started a powerlifting routine after 10 years of taking off of lifting. 1 back surgery, who knows how many herniated discs now.
Love this! Even applies to amateur Masters Strongman athletes. With aging, I need to know how I can keep going in the sport and avoid injury. McGill Big 3 has saved me with regard to back pain and hip/core instability.
@mitchellhooperstrongman my PT had me doing those rolls. Those are much harder than they look!! Love the content!
I think it’s great that you’re going all in on the recovery, that’s what Eddie did, and as a guy without the freakish size of some of your opponents you need that to succeed!
This series is IT
Since youre going in on these kind of things, you could see a speech therapist. You already have vocal nodes that could be permanent, but it is known that vocal fold inflammation can cause overall bodily fatigue.
Also if youre life depends on your ability to communicate information vocally, doing so in the healthiest manner should be a no brainer
You sound miserable.
Living in the US and knowing first hand how expensive it is.... Physio is the most important. Regardless of being an athlete, weekend warrior or just a couch lord. Injured is injured. And if you can have the patience a willingness to learn what these folks try and show and teach. You will not only heal faster, but will gain the knowledge on how to go about it the next time you snap your back up reaching for the remote that fell off your leg. People don't keep with physio because it not only hurts physically, also financially. I think if you can suffer through a couple sessions and do some homework. It's worth the time and effort. Pain is progress!
Also I very much enjoyed this video. And am looking forward to the rest. Good work Mr. Hooper
No, pain is *not* progress! *Effort* is good but we always try to remain in a range of motion that only causes a mild increase in discomfort above what you have at rest. High effort, low pain exercises are the bread and butter of recovery
Absolute class
Good advice
Many thanks
your approach to lifting and body health is the second most scientific approach i Like after quantum physics :D