IV Therapy and Sports Supplementation (Science Explained) No Stone Unturned
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The landscape of athlete recovery has evolved, and one method in particular has gained a considerable amount of attention.
Welcome to episode TWO of "No Stone Unturned," and today, we're delving into the practical applications of IV therapy and supplementation as a whole.
We'll explore the nuances and answer the burning question: Could this be the missing link for athletes like you and me?
At the end of each video, I'm going to provide a score based on three crucial aspects: Personal Enjoyment, The Scientific Evidence, and The Practicality for the Average Athlete. You'll be able to compare it to the other dimensions of this series.
I hope you enjoy and please share your thoughts in the comments.
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Studies Cited;
Intravenous Fluid Use in Athletes
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
The Proposed Effects of Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide (NAD) Supplementation on Energy Metabolism
article.scisportsscience.com/p...
Effects of Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide precursors on measures of physical performance and physical frailty: A systematic review
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/f...
Prevention of Contrast-Induced Acute Kidney Injury: Is Simple Oral Hydration Similar To Intravenous? A Systematic Review of the Evidence
journals.plos.org/plosone/art...
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00:00 Introduction
01:19 The Benefits of IV Therapy
07:17 Supplementation for Athletes
13:30 NAD+ Benefits
16:29 What The Science Says
19:53 My Opinion & Score - Sport
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Glycerin/Glycerol can help with hydration issues. You have to take a lot (~30+g) but if you have a hot environment or doing hard work, this can keep some water in your body.
I tried the coupon code and it did not work?????
Dear Mitchell, completely unrelated to the video... my son who is 8, would like to know if the world's strongest man was attacked in the ocean by a giant octopus... would he be able to pull it out of the ocean. I told him I would ask...
Please make side series based on this question, mitch vs Octopus, mitch vs monkey, etc
@chriskelly19067 your son may have come up with the question but now I really need to know the answer. Giant octopus seem to be fascinating creatures 🐙
I may have filmed a video addressing the topic of where I’d rank in the animal kingdom… keep your eyes out this week 👀
@@mitchellhooperstrongmanohh mitch the strongest ape
@@mitchellhooperstrongman He is very excited!!
Very much appreciate the warning to non-professional athletes about anabolics. If your livelihood doesn't depend on your performance, it just doesn't seem worth it.
And even then... probably not. Athletic careers are short, but some of the hormone changes are for life. How much depends on lots of factors.
@@espenstoro Depends, there is some research that athletes are willing to trade years off their life for gains in performance. It comes down to pretty impossible philosophical questions
Also if someone had clinically low testosterone. Testosterone replacement can improve health, longevity and general wellbeing.
@@dansmith9724 Yeaaah, but you wouldn't take a tren cycle for low test problems...
As a amateur/weekend warrior lol i appreciate even the mention of risk.
Lots of people at my gym have asked me to run a cycle and for me its never seemed worth it. I work 50+ hours a week, raise my kids, be a husband and train as much as i can.
Definitely not worth it.
Would love to have the elephant in the room discussed but i understand why it isnt ooenly discussed.
Again i appreciate this series alot. Thanks for all the hard work
I appreciate that you ask the professionals on how applicable the treatment is to different people, not just your situation. Hopefully they answer honestly, even though it is in their best interest to sell.
7:18 I like the fact that out of all the top strongman, Mitch does address the "issue", to some extent of course. I think this answer is as good as it's gonna get.
The super creatine
That shirt is being stretched to its limits.
How does he address it? Haha
@@keatonroney9521 Him saying that talking about it in more detail would be unethical, obviously referring to the fact that some people would start to juice because of it, which is obviously true. And he says it doesn't worth it for the average Joe. Which, once again, is true. How does he not address it? Do you need him to spell it out for you?
I came here to say the same; super respectable way to address it.
Mitch, absolutely love what you’re doing, man.
This is easily the most interesting series going
This series is so interesting mitch. Its absolutely fascinating. Keep up the good work mate.
Glad you're enjoying it, mate, what's been your biggest take away so far?
@@mitchellhooperstrongman i was interested in the recovery episode ie the cold water and your take on it. I like that you dont just take anyones work for it, you try it then give your opinion.
It's a girl! Congratulations and praying for a safe delivery for mom and baby! 🎉
Love the videos Mitch keep doing what you’re doing!
Hey Mitchell, I love this series and am looking forward to the future episodes! Big fan and love what you do.
I just want to point something out regarding the last study you talked about:
That study was specifically referring to contrast-induced kidney injury, it wasn't about hydration as a whole. "Contrast" is a dye given in medical settings prior to scans/xrays to help the radiologists see more clearly. When using contrast, there is a small risk of kidney injury and proper hydration is shown to help lower the risk by "diluting" the dye.
The study does talk about oral hydration vs intravenous hydration, although it is purely in the context of preventing contrast induced kidney injury. It is not simply about "oral hydration vs IV hydration for kidney function" as you mentioned.
Just wanted to clear this up!
Congratulations on your baby. Sending all the best.
I hope one day he can discuss the details, its better to have good info out there than to leave people to resort to rumors going around the internet and the local locker room about whats good to take and whats not.
Played a Rugby tournament in the same place in texas two years in a row. First year I barely staved off the heat exhaustion with water + electrolyte powder. Second year got and IV the day before and it felt so much better. Wasn't having to time my water consumption to not get bloated for games, and made the whole day so much easier hydration wise.
Loving this series so far
we cannot keep up with epic level up on production and value ,amazing! GO MOOSE!
This is very amazing to see that these kind of therapy exist. Not to mention that eating a lot of food even if its healthy can be hard on digestion. Thanks Mitch for this wonderful serie
Between this and the Stoltman raw series Im loving it right now!
I got a recovery IV last week and man was it good. Got me back going hard after a long week and into a tough weekend. I feel great still!
Thank you for making these videos moose. Such great quality. Be nice lifting heavy ❤
Great video. And personally I appreciate the brief addressing of the topic of anabolics. While I agree with your reasons for not discussing them, I personally believe that its an important part of the conversation for the absolute peak level strength athletes. Not that my opinion, a random youtube viewer, really matters overall lol
My own experience with injected B12 supplementation is extremely positive. Very good video, thanks again Mitch, this video series is absolutely Stellar so far.
Also... get a little table for your laptop, it looks hilarious with that little Macbook perched on those giant-ass quads of yours!
Such an amazing honest and open video
Thank you so much
Your breakdown of the science at the end of the videos are fantastic.
I'm enjoying these videos especially since I'm in college for health science and love learning new stuff about health
Great that you included a short review of the scientific literature ! It indicates that there are no shown benefits in humans to take these IV supplementation. I find it sad and quite pervers that the therapists you saw overinflated and somewhat lied about the benefits of these IV therapies.
Underrated series.
Brilliant Episodes.
Another great video. I am really enjoying the series so far. I understand not wanting to talk about certain things because of the health issues it can cost but I think in strongman it should be talked about in some way. In my opinion it leads people to think they can naturally lift that kind of weight and set unrealistic expectations.
👏🏼 👏🏼 Kudos Mitchell. Most people don’t need that info.
Really good series so far, Moose. Educational and fun, 10 year old me would never have thought that was possible. 😁
Strong guy with a strong personality and more intelligent than the average strongman 👀 looking forward to seeing this channel grow with you ❤
Great series so far and the information is presented well. Sleep is probably going to be at the top of the list but would be interested in seeing you explore subject of nasal breathing and breath work. Many thanks and best wishes for upcoming competitions.
At the end of the series I’d like a video on the cost breakdown on the items you continue to do.
I have to say. Mitchell is really bright... Explains things in a scientific yet simple way
Hoop, there it is!
Very informative 👍
Welp guess I should be going zooted to the gym everyday, preciate you Mitch 💪💪💪💪
That time spent with Eddie really had an impact on Mitch you can tell via this series. Eddie Hall very well coulda driven this man to dominate for the next set of years!! Marine Mike 🇺🇸 💪
If Mitch goes down the Bloatmaxx path we’ll know why!
@@mrgaudy1954you clearly know very little about Eddie if that’s your take away. Mitch knows
@@mrgaudy1954Eddie got big yes he was chasing the 500 and his competitors were huge at the time in Brian and Thor. He did a lot more than get big though, he spent Much more time on recovery etc Eddies a clever guy if you actually watch his channel how he breaks everything down
You can add spinach/flax/frozen fruit etc for macros in shakes
That was the best, most honest, discourse on supplementation I have ever seen. Even how you talked about the ones you couldn't talk about was pretty bangarang.
The man can't even talk about a gigantic part of his "health" program/nutrition and that's honesty to you?
@@TheMchef yes
Fluid balance is so critical for performance. Many years ago I tried to go completely fat adapted as an endurance runner, and I managed to do so, but it took quite a while. I couldn't figure out why I could not get consistency in terms of how my runs felt. Some days would be awesome, other days would be like I was starting from scratch. Until I figured out it had to do with fluid volume/hydration. On a strict ketogenic diet, I tended to wake up with lower blood pressure than usual. And then when I went running, I felt like shit. I tried adding a little salt water before my run and immediately changed my performance and my consistency in performing. Since then I have often noticed, that when my eating habits (now doing more of a body builder style low fat higher carb diet) were poor and I didn't get enough to eat the day prior, I have that same feeling. My endurance and overall energy is just gone.
I put a lot of that down to hydration and fluid volume actually. My working hypothesis is that if you are slightly dehydrated, and you start exercising, that you require a little extra blood volume on account of your muscles and expanding lungs etc. When there isn't enough blood volume, and by implication, you are dehydrated on a relative basis, your performance simply suffers.
Good videos!
I do the same thing with music/preworkout. Just puts me in the zone. Keep everything the same..
Love that you didn’t talk super sups. Too many people not training naturally for long enough to understand good training and eating.
loving the series
Amazing, what's been your favourite take away so far?
@@mitchellhooperstrongmanI’m just now getting into the series but I’m blown away by how in depth supplementation can really go. But in the end it always circles back to nail the basics first and fixing the “problem” you have at the root, and I love that because I think that’s a mentality many people could use more of both in their physique and physical fitness and their mental state/ life situations
Those quads make that laptop look like a phone with a keyboard attachment
getting nice and juiced up to be 2x champ lets go
Mitchell's legs MOG the Macbook lol
What a great series, thanks for doing this. Even though I am not a competitive athlete, as an aging daily trainer, I find it very interesting in general and as to what can be applied to someone like myself. Any idea what the studies show or oral NAD+ supplementation? Too much lost before it gets into the blood?
Hope to see you crush it at the Arnold! Any idea yet when and where you will be at the expo?
Top 3 is exercise sleep and eat alot
Well done! Another excellent video. Yes if he does actually address the "issue" of the PED's he could get his channel banned. Mitch knows this of course and that's why doesn't fully do so. Mitch is unbelievably impressive though, and I expect him to win WSM again. Incredible athlete!!! Go Mitch 💪💪
Man, I can't wait until you cover PRP and recovery peptides TB500 and BPC157
Thank you for the video! Great warning about certain kinds of supplementation
I'd love to hear your thoughts/experience (if you try it) with Peak O2. Could be placebo but within a few weeks of taking it I can run much better and sustain 15% higher wattage on the bike and feel great doing cardio
I find having probiotics in the form of kefir, increases my appetite. Decreases bloating, gas and intestinal discomfort. Greg Ernst, an old Canadian WSM competitor, and one of my favorite strongmen for his character , ate sauerkraut every day for breakfast. I've just started taking a teaspoon of cod liver oil daily for lots of vitamin D and A as well. Trying to eat more seafood
I wish we had places like this in Michigan. 😩
Have you thought of actively cooling down in between sets to help performance and save your body on water by needing less to cool down. Eddie always has his fan. I'll recommend an ice pack to help as well.
That dr is definitely pinning more than once a month 😆
MOOOOOSE!!! Looking lean!!
I’m a fan of the IV infusion and has helped me tremendously..
My clinic prior to my hip replacement put me on BPC-157 and TB 500 peptides and my recovery after was great..would like your feed back on either of these peptides.
That is the best answer I’ve ever heard in regard to addressing the steroids question. Great job Mitch!!! Marine Mike 🇺🇸 💪
So true.
I like this one
What did you like about it?
@mitchellhooperstrongman like how in depth you went man. I have always been interested in the iv therapy and with this video I gained alot of knowledge
I think if it works, do it. Excellent video. By the way I started your workout plan, currently in week three. I’m training for a strongman competition in September, I’ll let you know how it goes.
Amazing, keep me posted! What’s been your favourite part about the program so far?
I haven't done upper body/lower body in a really long time. For the longest time I'd done a PPL. As for favorite part, I think the rep/set count is really good and it has some variation between workouts. I know grinding is necessary but I need just a little variation in my plans. Means a lot that you take the time to answer comments by the way. Keep up the good work champ@@mitchellhooperstrongman
I think sleep is going to be your number 1.
Many in the exercise physiology world hold sleep above anabolics for maximal strength and muscle building. The guys over at Renaissance Periodization certainly do, at least
It's like training consistently. You're assumed to be doing this right, otherwise you're wasting time
Really curious to see how you feel with the NAD+ and if you will continue it. Could get game changing for you at your already high level
If you think you can't drink any more water or think it doesn't help. I bet you drink coffee or caffeine. Stop it and see what happens. It's helped me a lot the past 3 weeks. I've gone off it in the past with similar results. More oily hands, less itchy dry skin. More oily hair. Less water needed.
In the same video where you talk about micronutrient differences vs nutrition you’re talking about isolated high dose antioxidants via IV. I think this should provoke some thought.
I remember the Stoltmans getting their IV hydration prior to a big comp (ESM maybe?). Luke cramped up really badly and underperformed.
Not sure what they received but throwing a bunch of unbalanced electrolyte solution (theirs nothing "normal" about normal saline)!seems like a great way to throw off your lytes before a show. Even Plasmalyte A has missing electrolytes and some supraphysiological levels. Depending on the molecule, your kidney has to do something to excrete the extra (Na/K pump, dealing with hyperchloremic acidosis ie: H/K exchange etc).
Drink water before an event. Maybe IV mid event but the plasmalyte A. Also, that amino acid lasting one month thing is garbage...
Get on NAC 500 to 1000mg, iodine 10mg, b1 1000mg, zing 15mg, no chlorine in water. LHBK. Good expensive multi
In response to N-acetylcysteine, he spoke about glutathione. Same thing (precursor).
Study high, take the test high, get high scores
hey mitch love the content, lets say i ate less food and mostly got nutrients from powder, would a multi vitamin cover the macro nutrients?
Even the astronauts on the international space station have to consume real meals. With a cost of $23,000/kg to transport there I'd imagine it's been deemed necessary...
You should design this experiment and do it in an orthogonal manor.
Hey Mitchell, just wondering if you were at all concerned with your blood pressure and heart rate readings? I'm a bit of a heavier guy and have a higher resting heart rate (80s- 90s) so i'm interested in your perspective.
I have so many questions after this. So this is all the over the counter suppliments you take? So does that mean that we normals getting scammed with the other supliments we take or does Mitch know something we dont? Would be fun to know what Mitch thinks about other over the counter suppliments we normally use. Great video.
How did you manage to ramp up your digestive systems to deal with the amount of foods ?
Interestingly,Eddie Hall did the same thing and tore his bicep shortly afterwards.
Coincidence?
So bodybuilders are generally more open to talking about steroids but its never mentioned in strongman..why? 😂
It's not ethical for him to discuss it. He is a medical professional, a licensed clinician so that is a no no. In general I know I can't answer why nobody talks about it, but it's safe to assume they're part of the training protocols.
Roughly how much are the NAD shots? Like in the $100 range or more?
Any thoughts or opinions on collagen peptides?
@mitchellhooperstrongman can you tell what band you are wearing on your arm?
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only use preservitive free nutrition ivs thats what i use
Skeptical of what the IV guy was saying about it lasting for one month
Sleep! I think will be top 3
Hi Mitch, which of these do you get on a regular or which will you be getting on a regular? Thanks
I'm doing both the NAD and IV regularly, that's why I covered it in this series.
Ok thanks for replying, keep up the great content and all the best in your strongman career, your smashing it
Okay real question, if Creatine is used for the first 5 seconds of energy production. Say you're a baseball pitcher, how would creatine
Effect/behave/respond over repeated bouts of short explosive exercise.
How much creatine can one store in the body, and how quickly can one bring creatine into the muscle? Is it 6 hours from ingestion to being in the muscle?
It seems to me like a MLB pitcher would have either an increased ability to store creatine and or ability to absorb it assuming they are regularly exposed to large doses of many years of training.
It's one thing for people who lift to see an advantage, but what about those who just like to be explosive and helpful?
I find it a bit odd that he said completely different things about NAD in the first visit than in the second. Because everything he said in the second visit is correct and most of what he said in the first visit is debatable. Not saying that's anything to point at because people can make mistakes, especially on camera. Same thing with the Vitamin C, he's right that it's water soluble. It's very dubious that it'll last a month. You'll probably pee most of it out in an hour if it's in the blood. And whatever's in the cells is unlikely to make it to the end of the month.
Also wanted to comment that even though exercise physiology is part of the curriculum doctors go through, it's really only to find specific diseases because there's some background biochemistry that has application to diseases and a bit for atypical environments (altitude, diving, starvation). Otherwise, basically not touched at all. So defo if you are a competitive athlete go to someone that specialized in exercise physiology. And know that for 99%+ of people the benefits from additional supplementation are probably negligible unless you have a known deficiency of something. That's pretty well researched from what I've read. But for athletes who need that extra 2-3%, one can argue it's worth trying given that the side effects aren't too bad (although not zero).
On water replacement one important thing to remember is a lot of the food you eat has water in it. Most shouldn't be replacing tons of water loss one-to-one with water. That's also not great because you sweat out important electrolytes and if you don't replace those you can get side effects. Usually cramping and fatigue but depends on the degree. You have to eat as well.
If I had to guess number one for most effective tool for strength it has to be sleep. Good sleep and sleep optimization do wonders for general energy and recovery. It's also something often missed because people are always looking for stuff they can actively do to be better rather than letting their body take care of it. Plus - and I'm guilty of this - phones are awful for sleep and I always have my phone with me.
Iv administer saying you may have a slightly higher BP. You should be trying to lower it. A bit. what are your numbers. No fluoride, no mouth wash ever again. Nasal breath. Slow breath for hours if you can. Chew on hard things to open nasal air ways.
Wow
Only 4th with an 8.6?!! I thought for sure supplementation was going to make the podium. I still think sleep is going to take the win.
#LHBK
One thing you forgot to say is that in same case your not just 100% what put in to the ivy they put it little higher then your body can intake from table or liquid no matter how much you take
Have a question if people want to chime in on Creatine. I take HCL as i feel the difference in recovery compared to mono and the dehydrated or whatever the 3rd one is. I take about 7gms every day but HCL like concrete smcome in such small amounts i go thru 2 small tubs a month
Sleep is going to be number 1 in my opinion.
sleep and stress reduction are Number 1, 2, 3 and onward haha.
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In the vein of 😂 am I the only one that gets the dad jokes
I noticed that. Sometimes this is unconscious. I wonder if he put that in there on purpose.
Does this IV therapy help the average person? Yes, it helps pay for my gold Rolex.
Coming from a country with socialised medicine (which I wouldn’t give up) I must say many things are a little more “conservative”. There is no financial incentive to push anything and things that are tried have an expectation that they actually work. I respect the freedom of countries that allow “take my money” medicine where for the exchange of money anything goes but I do feel it opens the door to things that either don’t work at all or actually do more harm than good.
In this care it sounds very interesting. As you say human trials on sports performance are limited so the only way for there to be sufficient data is for people to be the Guinea Pig.
Vitamin C is an anti oxidant, which removes oxidants, not anti oxidants
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That PA is selling you snake oil. LOL