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The Brutal End to the Battle of Manila - War Against Humanity 129

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  • čas přidán 28. 02. 2024

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  • @WorldWarTwo
    @WorldWarTwo  Před 2 měsíci +187

    Unfortunately this is just the latest in a cacophony of horrors that will continue to the very last days of this war and beyond. Join us at the Timeghost Army so we can continue our work. Never Forget. www.patreon.com/TimeGhostHistory

    • @jeffstaples347
      @jeffstaples347 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Thank you for your ending monologue. Well said as always.

    • @robertjarman3703
      @robertjarman3703 Před 2 měsíci +4

      How on Earth did someone manage to make something too graphic for Sparty of all people to have to recount here? Actually, scratch that, maybe its better not to put more nightmares into people's minds.

    • @aegontargaryen9322
      @aegontargaryen9322 Před 2 měsíci +2

      That was hard to listen to , very hard .
      However grim the subject , the team has produced another documentary masterpiece. Thank you Spartacus for this , that must have been very difficult to relay

    • @evancrum6811
      @evancrum6811 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Thank you as always

    • @Patrick_3751
      @Patrick_3751 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@robertjarman3703 "Rampage" by James M. Scott did a pretty amazing job (for lack of a better word) of recounting all the nightmarish horrors committed during the Rape of Manila.

  • @TheSciuzzo
    @TheSciuzzo Před 2 měsíci +497

    For all the fuel shortages they had Axis powers sure didn't mind using gasoline on civilians.

    • @user-jl7rw8eo4s
      @user-jl7rw8eo4s Před 2 měsíci +117

      To them killing civilians was just as important as killing enemy soldiers. That's why the Nazis diverted resources (e.g. men, bullets, steel, etc.) away from the war effort just to kill Jews. To them, the war against Russia was inseparable from their delusional "crusade against Jewry". Similarly, to the Japanese soldiers, the war against the Western powers was inseparable from wars against "guerillas" (read: civilians). This is what fascism does: it makes an entire people the enemy rather than just another country. It therefore necessitates the extermination or total enslavement and subjugation of all other peoples before the war can be considered "won". That is why it cannot be allowed to come back.

    • @jamesgillen2339
      @jamesgillen2339 Před 2 měsíci +12

      They were also willing to use it on Hitler's corpse to make sure Russia didn't get it.

    • @ralfklonowski3740
      @ralfklonowski3740 Před 2 měsíci +23

      Depends where you look at. At the Theresienstadt concentration camp (the political prison, not the ghetto), they stopped burning the bodies for that exact reason and started to dig mass graves. Of course, the people died all the same.

    • @nobodyherepal3292
      @nobodyherepal3292 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Ya….i makes me wonder just how dire the “fuel shortages” actually were.

    • @mgway4661
      @mgway4661 Před 2 měsíci +1

      It’s rather asinine to think that at this point there was any semblance of control

  • @skylermertz
    @skylermertz Před 2 měsíci +241

    The "Never Forget" at the end of every one of these videos gives me chills. It's crazy to think we are only 80 years separated from WW2, but the brutality of man seems to have no limits.

    • @tommy-er6hh
      @tommy-er6hh Před 2 měsíci +1

      Only 45 years since the Cambodian Killing fields stopped, 30 yrs since the Rwanda genocide, 20 yrs since the Darfur genocide #1, and now another one has started. Mankind's has an evil tendency.

    • @ForelliBoy
      @ForelliBoy Před 2 měsíci

      Only humans can wage a war against humanity. It's what we're hard wired for.

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 Před 2 měsíci +3

      If an ancient Roman were alive today he would warn you that we are in the Fourth Turning of the current Saeculum.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před 2 měsíci +21

      You are right, in the grand scheme of things 80 years really isn't that long ago. Thank you for watching, never forget.

    • @JamesHillman-sirzethio
      @JamesHillman-sirzethio Před 2 měsíci +2

      What's crazier is that in some parts of world this kind of behavior has been repeated many times in the last 80 years 😢

  • @jliller
    @jliller Před 2 měsíci +141

    If Iwabuchi was so concerned with shame for losing Kirishima he should have gone down with the ship.

    • @stephengoetsch349
      @stephengoetsch349 Před 2 měsíci +20

      Iwabuchi was a really bad officer. Really, really, bad.

    • @yoseipilot
      @yoseipilot Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@stephengoetsch349 It was not his fault, their fleet failed to detect that last Battleship and earlier some of their ships misidentified them as “heavy cruiser”.

    • @stephengoetsch349
      @stephengoetsch349 Před 2 měsíci

      He also led some of the ground action on the island. The man was a douchebag.

    • @BoringAngler
      @BoringAngler Před 2 měsíci +8

      I get it's not how these things work, but Iwabuchi could have just let his men obey the withdrawal order. Meanwhile, he stays back in Manila and demands a duel with MacArthur or Spruance for his honor. He probably gets killed by a shell, a Filipino guerilla or US soldier before the message can be conveyed to be laughed at, but it might've saved more lives.

    • @stephengoetsch349
      @stephengoetsch349 Před 2 měsíci +12

      @@BoringAnglerIwabuchi eventually simply killed himself. Not having him to blame anymore, the Americans decided to kill Yamashita.

  • @flankspeed
    @flankspeed Před 2 měsíci +205

    The fact that one person's tarnished ego led to all this carnage should be a salutary lesson to all humanity.
    Censorship be damned.

    • @sebastiangundolf6740
      @sebastiangundolf6740 Před 2 měsíci +24

      It wasn't just one persons ego that led to these horrors. The reality is much more complex and even more frightening..
      How can so many people be manipulated and led to commit such deeds. Sure, there are sick and evil humans that will do so with great joy, but what about the average person.
      How could so many decent people become monsters, willing to hurt and kill others without any personal reason to do so.

    • @salvatorepitea5862
      @salvatorepitea5862 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@sebastiangundolf6740it's happening right now

    • @FlintIronstag23
      @FlintIronstag23 Před 2 měsíci

      @@sebastiangundolf6740 If you watch The Twilight Zone episode The Howling Man, it was because Satan was accidently freed upon the world.

    • @bobtaylor170
      @bobtaylor170 Před 2 měsíci +6

      ​@@sebastiangundolf6740the human race is fallen from the perfection which God created us to live out. In short, we are sinners. Some people become worse and worse, in a word, degenerate. The only hope for anyone is God Incarnate, The Lord Jesus Christ.

    • @oteliogarcia1562
      @oteliogarcia1562 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@sebastiangundolf6740 Iwabuchi was the commander on the ground, so yes, we start with him.

  • @p.s6742
    @p.s6742 Před 2 měsíci +257

    "I was only following orders" should never be considered an excuse for crimes against humanity.

    • @SurlyMontanan
      @SurlyMontanan Před 2 měsíci +12

      It’s happening now.

    • @stephengoetsch349
      @stephengoetsch349 Před 2 měsíci +18

      Yamashita’s defense was, reasonably, “I repeatedly and emphatically enforced orders to prevent atrocities. My superiors countermanded my orders to those who were not my direct responsibility, despite my efforts”

    • @ralfklonowski3740
      @ralfklonowski3740 Před 2 měsíci +11

      While serving in the West German forces as a conscript in the 1980s, we were told that by law it was our duty to resist such orders.

    • @andmos1001
      @andmos1001 Před 2 měsíci +2

      It’s not an excuse at all. We are all thinking feeling humans, not unthinking unfeeling humans. Following orders means you are a unthinking unfeeling human

    • @damion9742
      @damion9742 Před 2 měsíci +8

      I was in the U.S. Army for 10 years, and we were taught/ trained that we most definitely could refuse unlawful orders. So no, following orders is definitely never acceptable.

  • @terrillclements9201
    @terrillclements9201 Před 2 měsíci +128

    Thank you for your most eloquent presentation of this indescribable horror story. My father was a machine gunner in the 148th Infantry Regiment (37th Div.) in this battle (and Luzon until he was wounded in June 1945). He sometimes talked - or had nightmares - about his military experiences, but he never said a word about Manila. He carried the physical and mental scars his whole life. His family also carried - and carries - a few scars to this day. This series with Sparty deserves something like an Emmy Award!

    • @ras351
      @ras351 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Kinda reminds me of my grandfathers experience.He was on the front lines When the US army liberated Dachau concentration camp. He never talked can out it when he was alive but wrote about it in his journal at the time. No wonder he suffered from depression.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před 2 měsíci +12

      Thank you for sharing the story of your father, never forget.

    • @corychecketts
      @corychecketts Před měsícem +1

      My grandfather was also an infantryman in the 37th division. He never talked about his experience on the Philippines.

  • @NoMoreCrumbs
    @NoMoreCrumbs Před 2 měsíci +126

    The Japanese continue to deny it, along with all the other crimes their predecessors (and sometimes neighbors) committed

    • @potato88872
      @potato88872 Před 2 měsíci +10

      That bushido code still live on

    • @Tax_Collector01
      @Tax_Collector01 Před 2 měsíci

      The Japanese people believe it is severely shameful to admit and recognize this aspect of their Imperial history, as it would dishonor their forefathers that fought and died…for the delusional idea they were serving the emperor. When in truth, they were serving the Imperial army…as if the emperor’s disapproval of extending war efforts near the end of the war wasn’t clear enough to everyone involved. The Imperial army just chose not to listen to him, who then is truly in charge? It’s a fool’s game that only brought upon themselves the vices and sins they sought to avoid in service of virtues such as honor or glory. Hilarious.
      If it is national honor the Japanese people seek to preserve, then they should recognize the crimes of their forefathers in full at large…all Japanese people should be made keenly aware of the shame they must bear for the sake of their country. For how could they stand to continue to be so highly respected as a people by the international community if they still think it is correct to deny these atrocities, are they comfortable with their nation being perceived as two-faced? Insincere government apologies are worthless on paper as it is insulting to the generations of Asian peoples that sustained such atrocities and the new lineages that were born from survivors of severe crimes perpetrated by the former Imperial government, the right thing to do would foremost begin with educating all Japanese people the truth; school curriculums should be updated as it was suggested by the international community many years ago. Then, shrines built for war criminals should be removed, relocated to be archived, or segregated from public interactions to prevent people from praying or honoring the men unworthy of such posthumous treatment.

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 Před 2 měsíci +24

      @@potato88872It's pronounced bullshito.

    • @LukeSumIpsePatremTe
      @LukeSumIpsePatremTe Před 2 měsíci

      Luckily americunts never killed or tortured anyone. Oh wait...

    • @porksterbob
      @porksterbob Před 2 měsíci +5

      Officially, they do not. Practically and socially, they still do.

  • @jasatotakouzeno4674
    @jasatotakouzeno4674 Před 2 měsíci +42

    I know the brutality of the Battle of Manila (as a Filipino seeing it’s rammifications decades later after the fact), but what really takes the cake here is the soldier’s diary seeing how systematic and non-chalant he took his extermination duties against us.
    Thank you for shedding light into a dark, uncomfortable, yet must be made known subject of the war.

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac Před 2 měsíci +4

      Being so nonchalant about it may well be a psychological self-protection measure.
      You cannot carry out such orders unless you completely detach yourself emotionally from what it is you're doing.
      Which is probably the whole reason the Japanese abused their own soldiers so much, too - if you break their humanity in training, they become more-fanatical soldiers.
      Such horrible and disgusting tragedy...

    • @-HughJass-
      @-HughJass- Před 2 měsíci +1

      Most people were much more succint in diary entries back then from what I've noticed though. We tend to only be shown the detailed interesting stuff, but many people just logged a brief note/sentence of things that happened on a day to day basis without going into too much detail or sharing their thoughts. The purpose was that without it their family may never know where they were or what they did at all in the military if they died. He may have actually felt bad about what he did but wanted to spare them (or anyone else who read it) the details. It's tough to say what was going through most individual soldiers minds back then, especially on such sensitive, gruesome, shameful and sometimes illegal topics.

  • @Professor_sckinnctn
    @Professor_sckinnctn Před 2 měsíci +67

    Knowing so much about the battle, knowing Manila itself so well, I've been dreading this episode (and not just because I've been griping about how badly Filipino place names are pronounced; where is "Bagoio"? You mean Baguio? Ermita? And Kiangan is part of the Ifugao Province, not its own province.). When Spartacus says even they can't describe what took place… yeah, it was that bad.
    But, regardless, thank you. The Battle of Manila is increasingly forgotten, not just outside the Philippines but in the Philippines itself. Manila still bears the scars of the battle everywhere, even if they're increasingly difficult to identify. Without question, as always, thank you for reminding us to never forget, Spartacus.

    • @Red_Four
      @Red_Four Před 2 měsíci +8

      My wife's cousin when to visit his fiance in the Philippines last year. He paid a cab driver to take them around to all of the tourist spots on Luzon and then paid him some extra to stay with them through one of the memorial cemeteries. He said afterwards that the cab driver looked at him and said that he had lived there all his life and never knew the memorial cemetery was even there.

    • @aa2339
      @aa2339 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Bag yo

  • @n7grenadieryt831
    @n7grenadieryt831 Před 2 měsíci +48

    My grandfather fought here. The 25th Infantry Division. We still have his photos of the wrecked captial of Manila with a single tank rolling down the street. He never talked about the war that much.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před 2 měsíci +9

      Thank you for sharing this with us, and thanks for watching. Never forget.

    • @sojunism1648
      @sojunism1648 Před 24 dny +1

      if he doesnt talk about it much, you know that it is truly terrifying.

    • @n7grenadieryt831
      @n7grenadieryt831 Před 10 dny +1

      @@sojunism1648the only thing he enjoyed from what he said was the occupation. Lots of bars, played a lot of baseball with the Japanese. They used to hide him in the dugout when MP’s rounded the field. He was an officer. Never had anything against the Japanese, just wanted to play ball, drink whiskey, and dance. The rest of it? Never talked about it.

    • @conorflynn6666
      @conorflynn6666 Před 10 dny

      The Stalingrad of Asia

  • @seanskre1717
    @seanskre1717 Před 2 měsíci +136

    God Bless the people of the Philippines, they suffered and fought for their deserved freedom

    • @briantarigan7685
      @briantarigan7685 Před 2 měsíci +1

      too bad their modern government is so wholly incompetent,easily one of the most incompetent throughout SEA

    • @sse_weston4138
      @sse_weston4138 Před 2 měsíci +8

      And still do to this day

  • @kueller917
    @kueller917 Před 2 měsíci +41

    If only the Yamashita standard had been held to higher consistency. Many of those that held an even higher responsibility for the war against humanity will age, a luxury they deprived to thousands.
    At 12:53 I'm reminded of the scene in Band of Brothers where they learn of Hitler's death. The most momentous news they could hear in Europe, but after everything they'd seen that cannot be undone the only reply is a deadpan, "Should've killed himself three years ago. Saved us a lotta trouble."

  • @tlaw14ap
    @tlaw14ap Před 2 měsíci +26

    I am an American who has read all about world war 2. This is the first time I've ever seen anything about the rape of Manila. I felt sick watching this. This is important but bitter and difficult to watch.

    • @Patrick_3751
      @Patrick_3751 Před 2 měsíci +5

      If you want all the details behind the Rape of Manila check out the book "Rampage" by James M. Scott.
      Disclaimer: If this episode made you sick, the book will make you feel even worse...

  • @shaider1982
    @shaider1982 Před 2 měsíci +30

    Thanks foe this vdieo: Filipinos like me generally don't know that it was Iwabuchi who was responsible for the carnage in Manila, blaming everything on Yamashita. All of that destruction for the pride of an admiral.

  • @ruskiwaffle1991
    @ruskiwaffle1991 Před 2 měsíci +29

    I still don't understand how people could deny this happened. The whole ordeal was so brutal that it was engrained in people's minds forever.

    • @p.strobus7569
      @p.strobus7569 Před 2 měsíci +6

      People want to deny the reality that “their people” could really be that bad, in part because it means that this particular murderous evil is in themselves and their family.

    • @janmikes6102
      @janmikes6102 Před 2 měsíci

      Perhaps the sheer brutality is just the reason. For many ordinary people, atrocities like this can be hardly believable or imaginable

    • @ruskiwaffle1991
      @ruskiwaffle1991 Před 2 měsíci

      @@janmikes6102 I wish this was mostly the case, but it isn't.

    • @janmikes6102
      @janmikes6102 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ruskiwaffle1991 What is the reason then, according to you? It is not really useful to believe that all those people are just evil, I'd say...

    • @Jo-un6es
      @Jo-un6es Před 12 dny

      Because we didn't handle post war Japan like we did Germany. We didn't try and stamp out their imperialist ideology like we did with Nazism. This allowed it to keep festering, in their educational system, government, and now the modern Japanese populace.

  • @Doc_Tar
    @Doc_Tar Před 2 měsíci +59

    It's always good to watch these videos as the premiere to avoid CZcams censorship of historical information.

    • @baalberith5389
      @baalberith5389 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Its not about censoring history, the photos used and some of the stock footage where bodies or burning are seen is bad for advertising revenue.
      Of course its not right but youtube isn't trying to stop people from learning about something, its all about money.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před 2 měsíci +7

      If it does, we don't take it down. The uncensored version will always remain up, it just depends on your country whether you can watch it or not. Thank you for watching.

    • @BoringAngler
      @BoringAngler Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@WorldWarTwo Is the country law reason why there are two versions? I watched both versions of this and the content and blurring are the same, it's just the censored version has the warning text over the blurred images.

  • @GaryCameron
    @GaryCameron Před 2 měsíci +33

    I was there at the Yamashita shrine where the surrender occurred in Ifugao. My father in law (recently deceased) was there when it happened. He was a teenager hiding in the mountains at the time

  • @socialistrepublicofvietnam1500
    @socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 Před 2 měsíci +143

    Here before this gets age-restricted

  • @eduardogutierrez4698
    @eduardogutierrez4698 Před 2 měsíci +49

    Only Spartacu's soothing voice can make such a horrific, terrifyng, abhorrent video watchable.

  • @DinJaevel
    @DinJaevel Před 2 měsíci +22

    This is the gruesome evidence of what happens when a group of people believe themselves to be the betters of others. Time and time again. History is our bulwark against repeating the atrocities of times gone by. These stories must never be relived, there is no such thing as being better than others, never forget.

    • @Kevin-mx1vi
      @Kevin-mx1vi Před 2 měsíci +1

      Those who believe themselves better than others invariably show themselves to be the worst.

  • @davesharp8376
    @davesharp8376 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Utterly harrowing. This episode actually made me feel sick. I can’t emphasise enough how important this WAH series is. It’s the stark, naked truth about war and while the historical series about battles and troop movements is interesting, it is THIS that needs to be taught and understood

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před 2 měsíci +4

      This one was so bad, I went and asked Spartacus if he and the production crew were ok after filming it. Hug your people and your pets, the world can be a terrible place sometimes. But also an amazingly beautiful place.
      Thanks for watching, as hard as it is.
      -TimeGhost Ambassador

    • @davesharp8376
      @davesharp8376 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@WorldWarTwo theres been a number of episodes where Ive wondered about Sparty's and the production crew's ability to cope with the material they are researching and producing.
      Its material that if not careful could easily lead to PTSD.
      Once again. Thank you to Sparty et. al for this incredibly important work.
      There is a single episode in the World at War Series that blanket covers the holocaust. That brought me to tears.But you guys are covering atrocity week after week and its harrowing to listen to. (I have to be careful that my kids arent around when I watch). I cant imagine how difficult that must be.
      I believe your series is as good as that much vaunted production. Be careful and Look after yourselves.

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 Před 2 měsíci +20

    An excellent and timely closing. Thank you Sparty & team.
    Never forget.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před 2 měsíci

      Thank you for watching, never forget.

    • @srenkoch6127
      @srenkoch6127 Před 2 měsíci

      Yes.
      Too bad it is even necessary :-(

  • @___tim___
    @___tim___ Před 2 měsíci +25

    These atrocities are just unbelievable... But it just goes to show how much violence can be stirred up by racial hatred. Never forget!

    • @The_Fat_Controller.
      @The_Fat_Controller. Před 2 měsíci +18

      Japan liked to strut around proclaiming that they were fighting for an Asia for Asians, when in reality, it would be an Asia under Japan's boot.

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@The_Fat_Controller.A true shame is that these crimes and this regime were the only ones that could get a nuclear bombing, considering that they tried to hold out until the end and until the liberators were too damaged from attritions to continue.
      Russia can play the same games as Imperial Japan yet modern dictatorships have all nuclear weapons themselves, especially Russia helped by vetoes and status in the ONU that being invaded by their nazi partners got them.

  • @tesnacloud
    @tesnacloud Před 2 měsíci +47

    Blind devotion to your country, tribe, political party, ect. are too often the excuses given for atrocities. We must not be blind to the evils of any society, least of all our own. These evils must be stopped, and measures taken so they can never happen again. Because we as humans are always capable of evil. And it is not enough to rely on personal morality. The systems of society themselves must be crafted to prevent these evils from arising. Never forget.

  • @stoffls
    @stoffls Před 2 měsíci +13

    After the somewhat "uplifting" episode about Wallenberg in Budapest, this is probably one of the darkes episodes of WAH. When thinks become so dark, that it is even too much for this series after so many years of atrocities and war crimes. But it is important, that the stories are told and at least some of the victims get their names back and all of them their dignity.
    About Yamashita: he probably was a decent man, but still he was the head of the Japanese forces in the Philipines, he cannot argue that he was just following orders. At the same time, he did nothing to help the people in Manila during this dark hours.

  • @stevew6138
    @stevew6138 Před 2 měsíci +7

    When I was in High School in the 70's, I had a teacher who was part of the security detail guarding, transporting and caring for the Japanese held for war crimes in Japan. He had some very interesting souvenirs and stories. Little did I know then that I would marry a Filipina some 23 years later and listen to her parent's stories of the Japanese occupation.

  • @hankw69
    @hankw69 Před 2 měsíci +8

    My late father-in-law was a boy during the occupation. He and other elderly members of my ex-wife's church referred to the war as 'the Japanese time'...and always in a very ominous tone.

  • @rollo9428
    @rollo9428 Před 2 měsíci +20

    So so sad. Poor people...💔

  • @RobTzu
    @RobTzu Před 2 měsíci +5

    It is hard for me to watch these episodes, and I can only imagine how tough it is to make them. When I was a kid, the war was lines on maps and men covered in glory. I understood later that is was no glorious thing, war. I would take years long breaks from studying WW2 due to particular graphic or emotionally brutal stories I would come across. It takes me several tries and a few days to get through these episodes. Truly everyone involved is displaying extreme moral courage in making these, the research has to be emotionally taxing.

  • @louisgiokas2206
    @louisgiokas2206 Před 2 měsíci +9

    I was going to make a comment about current events, but you beat me to it. Well done!

  • @samuelkatz1124
    @samuelkatz1124 Před 2 měsíci +12

    I want to thank you and Indy for your coverage of Manila. Of all the "forgotten battles" of this war, this is one of those that truly deserves the title.
    My deepest respects to all the American and Filipino soldiers and all the innocent civilians who died in this cataclysm

  • @mbathroom1
    @mbathroom1 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I've watched every single war against humanity and this might be the most disturbing one I have ever seen. Thanks so much for reminding us for the atrocities we can go to and why we must never allow this to happen. Great job!

  • @AMNG1994
    @AMNG1994 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I'm an International Studies professor at one of the oldest universities in Manila. We still ocassionally find bones to this day.

  • @chucksimonton2969
    @chucksimonton2969 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Spartacus, I believe that Ernest Hemingway would by stirred by your soliloquy ending this episode. I certainly was. Once again.

  • @Jay-uu6ob
    @Jay-uu6ob Před 2 měsíci +14

    glad these stories are being told

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před 2 měsíci +2

      We must never forget. Thank you for watching.

  • @EerieV23
    @EerieV23 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Love the John Donne poem. This work is so well done.

  • @davidgeslani48
    @davidgeslani48 Před 16 dny +3

    As a Filipino it’s kinda funny to hear that Baguio is a “neighboring town” to Manila.
    Even with perfect driving conditions it will take 6 hours to reach it from Manila

  • @andmos1001
    @andmos1001 Před 2 měsíci +4

    When even this segment avoids describing the horrors inflicted, it’s better not knowing. What the witnesses and victims describe as relief, as US Army literally shelled where they where, it’s just amplifying what the witnesses and victims had to endure.

  • @nicklewis1475
    @nicklewis1475 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I make myself listen to your series, as you say "never forget" tears in my eyes. How you compose yourself is beyond me, but thank you. You all deserve a big hug everyday having to relive these atrocities.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před 2 měsíci +1

      It is really hard, I hope you have some way to process and deal with these videos.
      Thank you for your kind words and take good care of yourself.
      -TimeGhost Ambassador

  • @tabe8850
    @tabe8850 Před 2 měsíci +2

    This might be my favorite video of this channel. The contents are truly atrocious, but the detailed explanation is amazing.
    Spartacus - you are a wonderful. It’s difficult to see and hear atrocities, but you handle it with complete class.
    GOD I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I honestly learn so much.

  • @raspvidy
    @raspvidy Před 2 měsíci +5

    I knew this would be tough to watch. Didnt realise it would be this bad. Mind blowing how people can just treat others like that.

  • @spokanefut
    @spokanefut Před 2 měsíci +3

    Amen. My cousins (German medical religious missionaries interned at the war's beginning, therefore Axis civilians) were treated only slightly better than Allied internees, and never got over the horror and non-stop fear of the occupying Japanese who refused to follow orders and abandon Manila. A couple of these pacifist women who went through this as girls, re-experienced the fear in the dementia of their final years. So tragic, so cruel.

    • @spartacus-olsson
      @spartacus-olsson Před 2 měsíci +1

      The scenes at the German Club were as bad as anywhere else, and the victims were almost exclusively Germans sheltering there. In that place one of the most gruesome infanticides of the massacre took place… I’m not going to describe it.

  • @emirvmendoza
    @emirvmendoza Před 2 měsíci +4

    My grandmother survived the Battle of Manila. Her story is retold in my video with English subtitles: "Tara, Kain Tayo! Vonous: Bonus ng Aming Lola - Emir's BTIN Balik Tanaw / In Hindsight".

  • @TheBigheadValley
    @TheBigheadValley Před 2 měsíci +9

    Spare us the bull shit that yamashita was some redeemable Japanese commander. His behaviour in Malaya, Singapore and The Philippines says otherwise.

  • @thomasbernecky2078
    @thomasbernecky2078 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Well spoken Sparty.

  • @rodgerthurston986
    @rodgerthurston986 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Well done and thank for bringing these horrible things to light

  • @flankspeed
    @flankspeed Před 2 měsíci +8

    It's astonishing to me that any society that produced such utter barbarism is these days a modern democracy: and yet, a beacon of hope.

    • @The_Fat_Controller.
      @The_Fat_Controller. Před 2 měsíci

      We basically had to rewrite their society for them after World War II. What annoys me though, is that Japanese don't like to talk about the horrible atrocities many of their military personnel committed during the 1930-40s because it is too embarrassing. Germany, on the other hand, seems to be engaged in constant self flagellation now about their Nazi past.

    • @jennypai1776
      @jennypai1776 Před měsícem

      That same country though, downplays their brutality in the war

  • @davidclouse8440
    @davidclouse8440 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Your ending comments are well said. I hope we all learn from them.

  • @cseivard
    @cseivard Před 2 měsíci

    Very well done. Thanks for attempting such a horrific story, yet still needed to be told.

  • @alexhussinger3550
    @alexhussinger3550 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Yamashita learned an important lesson--don't associate yourself with murderous psychopaths if you don't want to be held responsible for the actions of murderous psychopaths.
    Though there is a noticeable theme with the Axis generals in that the ones who were actually good at their jobs tended to be the ones least interested in random warcrimes. The disparity in military casualties in the battle, especially considering it was a dug-in urban defense, really highlights how much the Japanese prioritized murdering civilians over actually fighting the war.

  • @BubblewrapHighway
    @BubblewrapHighway Před 2 měsíci +5

    My heart goes out to Ricardo San Juan. 💔 His experience was detailed in Dan Carlin's Supernova in the East.

  • @tyrian_baal
    @tyrian_baal Před 2 měsíci +1

    Never stop what you’re doing, your work is super important. Thank you so much for making this

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před 2 měsíci +2

      We will try to, thanks for your kind words.
      -TimeGhost Ambassador

  • @hillbillykoi5534
    @hillbillykoi5534 Před 2 měsíci

    i never knew much about this part of the war. Thank you for bringing this to light for me. Never forget.

  • @brysky2011
    @brysky2011 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Having served, I couldn't even come close to understanding what the Soldiers must have felt like. The scars possessed by the people of the Philippines and the Soldiers who helped them liberate their country must have been immeasurable. Never forget

  • @mosesracal6758
    @mosesracal6758 Před měsícem +6

    Its actually sad as to how is Filipinos arent really that educated on the particular details during the Japanese occupation.
    We dont know anybody else except Yamashita probably because he was the only general that was actually hanged for their crimes instead of the coward bastards doing a suicide before they got captured. In fact this wouldve been the first time many of my countrymen wouldve heard about Iwabuchi and how he acted separate from Yamashita.

  • @kennethraysealsphotography3513

    Best presentation ever on this or any other YT channel!!!

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Thank you, really appreciate your support.
      -Timeghost Ambassador

  • @jeffersonwright6249
    @jeffersonwright6249 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Hear Sparty’s warning at the end? “Those bells of hatred are rolling again.” Ignore them at our peril!

  • @mrmeowmeow710
    @mrmeowmeow710 Před 2 měsíci +1

    1 hell of a video great work of history👍👍

  • @GothamMan10
    @GothamMan10 Před 2 měsíci +2

    My grandfather fought in The Battle of Manila. He wrote letters to family talking about how ferociously the Japanese were fighting. After the war, he rarely talked about his experiences in the Philippines. Now it makes more sense why that was the case.

  • @danielbraun6621
    @danielbraun6621 Před 2 měsíci

    The last minute and a half. Excellent !

  • @saintleger858
    @saintleger858 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Acurate description of inhumanity Description si juste de l'Inhumanité , never forget, ne jamais oublier, merci thanks Sparty for this very poignant vidéo .

  • @Lance-Urbanian-MNB
    @Lance-Urbanian-MNB Před 2 měsíci

    The end lecture is absolutely epic and sadly so true.
    Well spoken, well spoken.

  • @israelmittelstaedt7796
    @israelmittelstaedt7796 Před 2 měsíci +22

    So hard to listen to, but so necessary

  • @janlindtner305
    @janlindtner305 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Magnificent work you do Spatacus👍👍👍

  • @ianhomerpura8937
    @ianhomerpura8937 Před 21 dnem +1

    11:30 the Bayview Hotel still managed to remain standing after all that. Nowadays it still functions as a hotel, mainly due to its strategic location in front of the US Embassy in Manila.

  • @AvengerAtIlipa
    @AvengerAtIlipa Před 2 měsíci +14

    Why your grandparents never bought Japanese cars.

    • @finchborat
      @finchborat Před 2 měsíci

      Any why Cotton Hill flipped out in one episode of KOTH where he was appalled over a guy because he owned a Mitsubishi car and referred to those who had a "Nazi car" or Italian scooter as Axis lovers.
      czcams.com/video/OsmsDafYyaM/video.html

  • @Onthejazz247
    @Onthejazz247 Před 2 měsíci +2

    That's a great point about yamashita's role that I hadn't considered. His participation in the Japanese military experiment as a whole does lead to some complicity in their war crimes. It's funny. I *enjoy* WAH less than the other series but it's frequently the one that I feel deserves comment. I'm not quite as pessimistic towards my view of the present as sparty seems to imply he is, but I appreciate the emotive dedication this series seems to draw from him.

    • @spartacus-olsson
      @spartacus-olsson Před 2 měsíci +2

      I’m actually an uninhibited optimist. I’m also a firm believer that progress is based on iterative learning, and the amassing of knowledge. In other words; for us to improve, we need to look at and analyze failures just as much as successes. In fact I’ll argue that failure teaches us more than success.
      So if focusing on failures is such an inherent part of my worldview, how can I then be an optimist? Simple; it is an observable reality that on a macroscopic level, continuously for the roughly 300,000 years our species has existed, human life has become continuously safer, more peaceful, more rewarding, and richer in understanding of the world and universe around us.
      However, I’m not a Panglossian - I do recognize that we have faced species wide existential threats throughout our history, and still do - we’ve just been pretty good at learning from those crises to come out stronger at the other end.
      That, by force must lead to the conclusion that as a species we have an inherent ability to improve… as long as we don’t forget that we’re not perfect, and must learn from our mistakes - that is what I mean when I say: Never Forget!

    • @spartacus-olsson
      @spartacus-olsson Před 2 měsíci +3

      Oh, and as for my present outlook - one of the essential things we can learn from past failures is to recognize them before they become critical… only then can we take action to avoid repeating those mistakes.

  • @amcalabrese1
    @amcalabrese1 Před 2 měsíci +3

    On the Yamisita standard, one thing I read was that MacArthur pushed his execution. One reason was that MacArthur loved the Philippines and was furious by the massacres in Manilla.

  • @gunman47
    @gunman47 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you for covering this episode of the War Against Humanity, no matter how difficult it is to cover it. Never forget.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před 2 měsíci +1

      As always, thanks for watching. Never forget.

  • @tcofield1967
    @tcofield1967 Před 2 měsíci +5

    The issue with Yamashita, and any person that leads troops, or even any soldier that receives an order is whether an order is legal or not. If a soldier refuses an order simply because he or she doesn't necessarily agree with the political reasons behind the conflict in the first place then pandemonium will occur in an army. Soldiers cannot refuse a lawful order even if it is against their personal beliefs.
    Having said that, this is where the legality of the order comes in. Yamashita might have put an order out saying no rape, no looting, no murder and this is fine but he is also responsible for the implementation of that order. When overruled by the Japanese High Command or sidestepped by his subordinates he should have at first protested to his immediate superiors and re-instated the orders. If overruled again he should have resigned in protest and refused to take any command where his rules of conduct were overruled.
    Almost all of the atrocities committed by the Imperial Japanese Army were against Imperial Army law. The same was the same for the German Army, which had a strict set of rules regarding the treatment of civilians. German Officers and NCOs as well as Imperial Officers and Soldiers knowingly violated those regulations because they felt they had the tacit support of their leadership, which they did. I'm sure there were Imperial Officers that did resign in protest as well as German ones as well. You just never hear of them.

  • @elcastorgrande
    @elcastorgrande Před 2 měsíci

    Bravo! Well said, Spartacus.

  • @TheHypnogog
    @TheHypnogog Před 2 měsíci +1

    That was some truly sad, stomach turning business. War Against Humanity is always the hardest to watch, which is why we all should watch it.

  • @rwh-fr4zs
    @rwh-fr4zs Před 2 měsíci +1

    Very good closing argument.

  • @HontasFarmer80
    @HontasFarmer80 Před 2 měsíci +3

    When this video series started who could have predicted we would be seeing something so much like this happening live streamed and videoed on the internet

  • @annayosh
    @annayosh Před 2 měsíci +1

    That... hurts...

  • @JacobBarbee-jf4fy
    @JacobBarbee-jf4fy Před 2 měsíci +2

    Watched a movie a while back called Three Come Home. Worth a watch since it kinda goes along with this type of subject matter.

  • @stonedtowel
    @stonedtowel Před 2 měsíci +2

    The sheer cowardice of being the head of such disgusting orders and then not even having the courage of your convictions to make a “glorious” final stand as his naval men were forced to do is just plain indicative of human nature when left at its own devices.

  • @randbarrett8706
    @randbarrett8706 Před 2 měsíci +1

    As grisly as it is, it’s so important to remember, if only so we don’t forget and end up relearning these lessons

  • @armandotalampas4800
    @armandotalampas4800 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Among the 100,000 fatalities of the Manila Massacre is the wife, together with her three children of future President Elpidio Quirino. Alicia Siquia was brutally murdered by the Imperial Japanese Army
    One notable casualty is the child of movie legend Corazon Noble, wife of Angel Esmeralda. Her baby was only a few months old when she was bayoneted by a Japanese soldier. She later testified against Gen. Tomoyuki Yamashita during the Allied war tribunal

  • @StephenGoodfellow
    @StephenGoodfellow Před 2 měsíci +7

    So poignant that this be released today.

  • @lushimin
    @lushimin Před měsícem

    Well said! Ignorance as justification to perpetuate evil is no indemnity against evil.

  • @stephengrinkley9889
    @stephengrinkley9889 Před 2 měsíci +2

    If I had the power, I would show this episode, and particularly your powerful closing monolog, to every politician in Congress. The attitudes of appeasement and indifference that allowed tyrants to fester and ultimately lead to atrocities like this has returned. Evil doesn't really care about "escalation". It will continue to grow until acted upon, or until it has achieved it's goals. I will Never Forget, but it seems that many others have.

  • @hannahskipper2764
    @hannahskipper2764 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Way to go me. I watched this just before I went to bed. And I'm already in a bad mood. Don't do that, people. Never forget.

  • @tabe8850
    @tabe8850 Před 2 měsíci

    “Never forget” of what humans are capable of.
    So sad and, more so, scary.

  • @kluftstraatman392
    @kluftstraatman392 Před měsícem +2

    Very good episode detailing the Battle of Manila. I personally think it would have been made better had there been mention of the Japanese Internment Camp at the University of Sto. Tomas where Japanese forces committed another round of atrocities against Filipino prisoners, and the iconic Sherman rolling beside the gates of Far Eastern University which was then used by Japanese forces as their Headquarters. Overall great job Time Ghost for shining a light to one of our country's darker pages in history. #NeverForget

  • @valentinbecker7605
    @valentinbecker7605 Před 2 měsíci

    Wow, that speech at the end was powerful.

  • @markgarin6355
    @markgarin6355 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Nothing say like class like your conduct during war....

  • @alexamerling79
    @alexamerling79 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I can never get over what a great orator Sparty is.

  • @Patrick_3751
    @Patrick_3751 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I noticed Rampage by James M. Scott was one of the books quoted from in this episode. I read that book in 2021 or 22 and I must say, not recounting the torture and rape that many girls and women endured at the rape centers was the right call....

  • @brent954
    @brent954 Před 2 měsíci

    Excellent closing to an extremely sad chapter. Alas, those that need to watch, listen and understand, do not have the capacity I’m afraid. However your research and hard work are greatly appreciated. Should be shown in schools.

  • @daviddura1172
    @daviddura1172 Před 2 měsíci +2

    should be taught in school as an example of blindly following an leader....

  • @lottenetzel8751
    @lottenetzel8751 Před 2 měsíci +2

    My grandpa's relatives were murdered in Manila. They were Japanese collaborators and they thought they were safe.

  • @rwarren58
    @rwarren58 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I often speak of the monsters and monstrosities that are so horrific any decent human could not conceive of their existence. Yet here I am moved by the woman who was grateful for American artillery because it meant even her death and her ordeal would be over. Now that we know. Never forget.

  • @carlospesqueraalonso4988
    @carlospesqueraalonso4988 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for showing the reality of war. It may be hard, but if it's needed, because: it's never about glory, it's always against humanity. Never ever forget!!!

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před 2 měsíci

      ⬆️exactly this, thank you for your comment and NEVER FORGET!
      -TimeGhost Ambassador

  • @wb9489
    @wb9489 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Spartacus. I find it kind of insane that you still mentally healthy (atleast you look like that) after make all these videos. If I look 2 of these videos in a row I get sick to my stomach and feel depressed for at least a day.
    Thanks for all the hard work. We can only hope that we can change for the better

  • @maciejkamil
    @maciejkamil Před 2 měsíci

    That ending speech was one of the greatest in whole WAH.

  • @user-zr1fx1xq9m
    @user-zr1fx1xq9m Před měsícem +1

    Thank you so much for discussing the rape of Manila. While I haven't read too much on it myself, as someone who regularly commutes around the city south of the Pasig River, and as someone who struggles with my identity as a Filipino, this was something I needed to watch no matter how disturbing or visceral it would feel.
    I was interested in WW2 since an early age, but there is something different about seeing buildings like the Manila City Hall or the Rizal Stadium that I've seen in person in the present day, compared to how they appear in war footage with the billowing smoke and bullet holes. Until I started learning about the Rape of Manila more, many of the places and cities from Europe to Asia that I would read and hear about felt distant, for lack of a better term.
    With that, both the main series and this series helped me visualize and realize just how utterly close to home the war was, and I hope that, as a trans person especially, I'll be able to contribute to fighting the insanity, bigotry, and hatred that stubbornly cling on at the present day.
    Thank you.

  • @aegontargaryen9322
    @aegontargaryen9322 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Good grief , who in their right mind could do things like this ? Brutally murdering women , children and infants in such a sickening manner . I had heard before that acts like this had taken place in Manila as the Japanese retreated but I never knew it was so bad and so far spread .
    Yet again Spartacus (and the team) you have come up with another documentary masterpiece . However hard it is to listen to these acts must be brought to people’s attention so hopefully nothing like this can ever happen again .
    ‘Never forget’ - wise words

  • @raybarron316
    @raybarron316 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Never forget.