Will it RUN? EX-Firetruck | 1974 international fleetstar
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- Follow along as we work on this 1974 international FLEETSTAR (big brother to the more common 'LOADSTAR'). Its a low mileage, lightly used beauty. These old trucks came with several motor/transmission options, this particular unit has a big gasser with a 5spd auto transmission. Lets see what we can do!!
#firetruck #international #willitrun - Zábava
What do you do with a low-mileage, nearly pristine EX-firetruck?
Depends on what you do for work
Put a fifth wheel on it and drop a new manual transmission in her
Haul hay bales...
Make it a box truck
You put a sleeper on it an build a hotshot truck to be your own boss
Our 1960 Ford C1000 cab-over pumper/ladder truck with the 5 speed manual transmission and 534cid SuperDuty V8 got 2 mpg when we drove it from the Cincinnati area to central Pennsylvania on the primarily on the interstate highways to be fitted with a new rescue body in 1981. It had about 10,000 road miles and 30,000 motor miles as I vaguely recall. The 1960 chassis was used as our 'new' rescue truck until last year when it was the donated to the small volunteer fire department in rural Kentucky that received our 1967 GMC 'bread truck' when we upgraded in 1981...
Now that is totally awesome fire truck international 1974 .. Can't wait to see more totally awesome videos
Ill make you a deal
Just started work on my 1977 Loadstar 1700 project. Love to see the old girls getting saved.
That is so cool! Hard to believe that thing started right up!
I know, I was so surprised. Sometimes you get lucky! Thanks
That’s awesome! It’s in amazing condition. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a fire truck do a burnout, before!
👍Tony B
Hey Tony. Its near immaculate for sure. A couple firefighters could probably detail it to look new.
Very cool! Looking forward to seeing what you do with the truck 👍🏻
You and me both!
I think that it is probably a 549?
Remember all IHC V-8s are timed on #8 cylinder. The rear cylinder on the passenger side. Specs call for TDC, some engines can use 5°BTDC, some engines can use 10°BTDC.
Remember when setting the dwell, plug the vacuum advance line! No more than 500 rpm, set the dwell at 28° to 32°, try for 30° dwell. Then check your timing at 0°, then 5°BTDC, then 10° BTDC. If you set the idle speed above 500 rpm, you can not shut the motor off, it will just sit there and diesel.
Good luck.
Hello from north east Montana.
10 miles from the Canadian border.
Snowrunner the game brought me here, great truck
That is nice looking truck and your little girl is so cute and I hope everyone is doing well
Love it😍
San Joaquin Valley in the spring time the nicest two months of the year. Nice find
Nice!
That is an AWESOME example of a vintage IHC truck, along with your video. Call me a strange individual if you will, but IHC trucks have special place in my heart, due largely to the memories I have, of riding in IHC school buses as a kid. They made a very distinct and unique sound that I remember vividly in great detail. They had this characteristic "whine" to them that I found to be very strangely appealing. I did notice in your video that the truck did have a very similar whine to it that I remembered hearing from the school buses of that era even though they were probably powered by a gas V8 displacing 345 cubic inches, as opposed to the one in your example which you stated was 9.0 litres (so a 549 cubic inch???). Interesting is there didn't appear to be much or any whining from that Allison automatic as you were accelerating that I remembered to be characteristic of gas powered medium duty trucks of that era so equipped. Back in those days, most trucks of that size were manual, so if you came across one with an automatic, that was a rare animal.
Do you currently own any? This one might be for sale....😀
Judging by the colour of the chassis and the fact that you’re surrounded by almond trees, I would bet that engine was originally owned by California Office of Emergency Services. When I was a new firefighter, I used to work off of an engine with the same cab and chassis, but it was a diesel.
I would agree, that is more than likely originally an OES type 2.
love the old fire truck, need to throw an air horn back up top. looks epic
Nice one 👍
Thanks ✌️
Big gas engines were common in fire service until the 1970s. I drove a 1970 Maxim with 779 cid Waukesha gas straight 6 with dual disributors, spark plugs and starters. When pumping if it got hot you would open a valve and pump water would flush the radiator out and run through the enginr.
I have two ex fire trucks.......'68 Loadstar and a '72 F750. Both gas with manual transmissions. There is a '77 Fleetstar for sale near me with the fire body still on it. 549 with a stick. I'm tempted to go look at it.
What state?
The interior is in excellent condition.
Yeh, those firemen babied it
You got to put a flatbed on that. Turn it into a work truck and you need some new tires. After that your golden.
So like a 600 inch gas motor, cool
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The engine will need some work. Also, the rig can convert the pushbutton engine start to a full key start ignition switch.
What did you decide to do with the truck good work horse
You get the auto worked out or is that top speed?
The metal thickness of the fuel tank is most likely heavier than any new pick up truck frame. As far as the ride quality it will improve dramatically with additional weight of a bed, these trucks were made to work not cushion your tush!
love it. "all 9 liters". it must get 2 gallons to the mile?
Probably not 50k GVWR. With a single drive axle and standard steering axle, it's probably closer to 32k.
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Any ideas about what you're gonna do with the truck? It's a good heavy duty truck. Sounds like it had an exhaust leak but hard to tell on the video.
Im not sure yet. its a 12' bed. The top speed is only 55, its guzzling the fuel at that speed. Any suggestions?
@@unitedstatesofbuild4915 If you wanted to make it an over the road truck, you'd probably need to put a different rear end in it or a 2 speed rear or change the gears in it, whichever comes cheap. It would make a great dirt truck or farm truck as it sits for hauling hay or dirt. Fuel or water truck. It would probably make an awesome snow plow truck with a sand spreader on the back. I used to snow plow for the municipality, as a sub contractor, and I would have loved to have something like that. The low gearing would have been great on city roads.
Mr. United states of Build, Sir, A word of caution ! With all these older gasoline, trucks, if they have been sitting , not running,
for any length of time; certainly several years or more, to avoid a serious Fire, always do this. Prepare yourself a marine gas
tank, with an in line electric fuel pump, with a fuse, a switch, and alligator clamps of the proper size , positive and negative.
Always have a small size , high quality solid, aluminum step ladder, and at least one , better two, ABC 20 lbs Fire extinguishers !
The simplest thing to do is take a small fuel line pipe cutter, and cut the fuel line, right near the carburetor, several inches
away from the carb. Pull, slightly the metal line apart. Put a little white grease or vaseline, on the end of the metal pipe into the carb. With the proper diameter gas line fuel rubber hose, slip one end onto the cut off line, at the carb and fit a screw clamp onto it. Then connect power to the fuel pump, with fresh gasoline, and turn on the electric fuel pump . Of course remove the Air cleaner
before this, and climb up onto , over the engine, and look down the Air horn of the carb! Two things you are looking for!
As the fuel pump fills the carb fuel bowl, IS THE GAS POURING , FREELY INTO THE INSIDE OF THE FUEL BORE, FROM THE
JETS, OR IDLE CIRCUITS???? IF THE GASOLINE IS POURING THROUGH , FOODING THE ENGINE??? THIS MEANS THAT THE
INLET VALVE OPERATED BY THE FUEL FLOATS , IN THE CARB, IS STUCK, WITH GUMMED UP OLD FUEL, AND THIS WILL NOT
STOP THE FUEL , FROM OVERFLOWING INTO THE ENGINE, EVEN IF THE FLOAT LEVEL IS FORCING THE INLET VALVE TO CLOSE!
THIS MEANS A FIRE, THAT COULD BURN THE TRUCK DOWN TO THE GROUND, IF NOT IMMEDIATELY STOPPED!
THAT IS OBSERVATION NUMBER ONE! ALWAYS ! #2.......BEFORE YOU CRANK OVER THE ENGINE, PUMP THE GAS PEDDLE
LINKAGE AND SEE IF THE EXCELLERATOR PUMP, IN THE CARB, IS PICKING UP FUEL, AND SQUIRTING IT INTO THE ENGINE?
THIS WAY YOU KNOW YOUR FUEL BOWL IN THE CARB HAS FRESH GAS, THE BOUL IS FULL, AND THERE IS NO , UNCONTROLLED FREE FLOW OF GAS POURING INTO THE INTAKE MANIFOLD ! SO FAR SO GOOD. YOU HAVE "PUMPED" THE
LINKAGE , AND THE CARB ON DOING SO, IS SUIRTING FUEL INTO THE CARB AS IT SHOULD , APON ACCELLERATION!
#3.....NOW YOU CRANK ! ( AFTER CHECKING ALL ESSENTIAL FLUIDS) EXTINGUISHER AT HAND!
This is how a savvy, safety aware, person , is to ALLWAYS proceed ! Also put a bolt , with a screw clamp, into another small
say 5 inches of fuel line hose, onto the other end of the fuel system line , from the original OEM gas tank, to prevent old stale
gasoline from spewing all over, as you crank the engine! Secure it with another small proper sized screw clamp!
With oil , and prestone checked, good batteries? you are good to give her a whirl! ALSO, ALL IDIOTS , OUT THERE !
NEVER BOOST, DEAD SULPHATED BATTERIES ! YOU MAY HAVE AN EXPLOSION ! AND THE SULPHATED, DEAD BATTERIES,
WILL CREAT A BARRIER TO INCOMING BOOSTER CURRENT ! GET GOOD USED BATTERIES, OR NEW!
STAY SAFE, BE SMART, KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING ! TO EVERYBODY OUT THERE IN U TUBE LAND! AND NO ONE IN ,
PARTICULAR! BELIEVE ME ! I MYSELF HAVE MADE PLENTY OF MISTAKES IN MY LIFE! NEVER BOOST FROZEN BATTERIES EITHER! THEY MAY EXPLODE! kennethzakaib607@gmail.com Montreal Quebec Canada. Oct 20th 2020
I just purchased a 1972 , identical to that other than it's a dump truck , I'm curious what transmission it is and what type of fluid it uses , same engine and transmission !!
Wanna buy this one?
Cutest liittle kid
I know this Christmas 2 years ago and there hasn't been an update if your friend took the fire department body off there the pump the tank and the compartments if it had any and still has it and getting junk it see if the local fire department wants it or if they don't want it find out if someone else wants it at least the pump I'm feeling the most expensive parts of a fire truck if a pump can be referred to save a lot of money.. I always tell people that buy old fire trucks Don't destroy the firefighting aspect of the truck save to look for the apartment wants it you know just take it off the truck.. have a nice day and I hope you got the truck running you kept it
That thing is running on like 1 cylinder!
That truck is moving gosh
I'm no international expert but it kinda sounds like it's misfiring at idle. Is that just how they sound at idle?
"maybe you can distract her with the rocks and ill hide the firetruck"
Definitly not 50,000 lb with a single rear axle, has to be somewhere between 28,000 to 32,000 GVW. 50,000 would have 2 rear axles!!
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I would put an L10 Cummins in it
The reason Fire Trucks have Allison automatics is so they can creep along a fire line while pumping at constant pressure. Plus, the torque converter allows for excellent hill climbing. Some of the earlier ones came with a hydraulic retarder for gassers instead of a Jake Brake. The Allison is either 4 speed or 6 speed. 549 V8 on heck of a motor. 7 1/2:1 compression so it'll run on most anything. It is an excellent motor to turbo charge if you want more than 500 HP easy :-)
@ Broc Luno, that's a huge negative on your answer regarding why Fire Apparatus have Allison Automatics in them these days. The biggest reason for going Automatic is so that most anyone can get behind the wheel, (once they are properly trained, and qualified) and get the Trucks out the door on calls, without having to worry about whether or not the clutch will be taken out, or gears inside the transmission will be damaged from not knowing how, and when to properly shift gears manually with heavy loads of water, foam, equipment, and firefighters on board. You can basically just drop the gear shift in drive, and walk on the throttle pedal, and the truck will shift itself at the appropriate RPM, and time. It's the same with School Buses, and trash trucks that do a lot of stop and go activity these days. They are pretty much all automatic these days so that pretty much anyone with proper training can drive them in today's World.
@ Broc Luno, not all fire apparatus are set up with Pump & Roll Capability, in fact, this is only true in Brush Trucks. Most Structural Firefighting Pumpers are not set up for Pump & Roll. The Pump operates through a Transfer Case, and the Truck Transmission. If it is an Automatic Transmission, you stop at the fire scene, place the Transmission in neutral, and set the parking brake, then you shift the pump itself into active mode, but in order for the pump to actually pump water, you must place the truck transmission into Drive. Placing the Pump into active mode takes the drive power from the rear axle and wheels, and sends it to the transfer case, and then, when you place the Transmission into drive, it completes the transfer process from road gear to pump gear, and the transmission is now turning the pump impellers through the transfer case instead of turning the rear wheels. If the Pumper is equipped with a Manual Transmission, then you place the Pump in active mode, and place the Transmission into the highest gear, which would be 4th or 5th gear in most cases. Some Pumpers do have a PTO Pump, which does allow for Pump & Roll ability, because it has nothing to do with the truck transmission.
in glove comp on door is the built label on IHC trucks I had.
Tells you all part s numbers specs.
Fire trucks have the most pampered lives kinda like how the Firefighters do. What a plum job do nothing and people think your a hero. The power of the tv and media for ya.
Pampered? Cold start to WOT in seconds when responding to calls, however I fully agree first responders are contracted professionals rather than heroes.
Need the VIN number for that truck so I can convert mine thanks
really a power brake, how old is the engine oil? how old is the atf and gear lube in rear? it maybe to old but it's not trash! I know it was given to u. I might be getting 2 1998 international 3800 71 passenger school buses for scrap price to take them away. even if I scrap one I will treat them with respect, my grandpa had a trucking co. and we treated all equipment with respect, even if it was old and tired. I like old international trucks fleetstars, cargostars,loadstars, c and d cab lightline and the daddy of them all transtar II. my bus is to repurpose as an rv. these in trucks brought us our food, in the case of ur fleetstar it has saved lives being there to get the fire fighters there in time. that truck took abuse in the line of duty.
That truck took way more abuse from the fire department than from that short burnout. Operation near WOT following a cold start isn't uncommon when responding to calls. Seconds matter when saving lives, equipment can be repaired or replaced. Plus it's neither yours nor mine, but his to do what he pleases with!
@UnitedStatesofBuild would u wanna sell it by any chance
The going rate for a 20 year old fire truck in excellent (well cared for) condition throughout the mid-west (U.S.) is about $3k, trucks in that condition significantly less. Virtually all the retired fire trucks you'll find nowadays will have the largest diesel engine available from the truck chassis manufacturer...
Snowrunner
gasoline engine????
Tri fuel, it will run on natraul gas, propane and gasoline
@@unitedstatesofbuild4915Many of these 549s were used with gaseous fuels in stationary applications like irrigation pumps and standby generators!