How to Secure Your BX to a Trailer
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- I show how to secure your BX to trailer. Be sure you have the appropriate amount of tongue weight.
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Another informative video!! I am glad you used 4 binders instead of 2. That is the way it should be done ! Thank you young man for sharing. Be safe and God bless you and your family !!!!!!!
Thanks!!! After I made the video I thought that I should have mentioned that I was using a 4 point tie down. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I appreciate you making this video. I recently purchased a BX2380 and a 16 ft car hauler trailer and this works out perfectly on how I want to hook everything up. Thank you!
You are welcome! Good selection on the trailer too.
Thank you for this instructional video. You gave a great tutorial and I've learned a few things. Your tone, pitch and instructions were thoughtful and professional.
Thanks, I really appreciate that!
Very well done. Having lost a golf cart off a trailer at over 50 mph (nobody and nothing hurt including cart, believe it or not!) and intending to buy a tractor I’ve been apprehensive of hauling one properly. Now I’m more confident, thank you.
Thanks! You were lucky with your golf cart.
@@TractorTech I have a problem with my ratchet binder whenever I try ratcheting, the hooks keep turning and tangling the chains. How can I fix that ?
I only use the 2.5 tonne ratchet straps on my BX, takes half the time, doesn’t chip away paint either. These 10mm chains are good for 10t each, way overkill. Apart from that, all your lashing tips are spot on. Locking webbing ratchets is very important, I see so many people leave them open, they spring out otherwise.
Straps are my choice. I just wanted to show 2 methods. Also if the ratchet breaks, it will still hold if it is locked.
That rating applies to a *steady* load. However, any kind of inertial forces, such as hard breaking, swerves can cause the net force on the individual straps to far exceed the weight of the vehicle, and possibly the rating of the straps. Just something to think about.
nice job! I like that you pointed out to stop and check the chains after driving a mile or so to insure they are still tight. I have arrived on location to find chains have loosened up in transport for some various reason. that is a good tip!
Thanks!!! I guess everything "settles in" after a little driving.
To help prevent the chains from losing tension make sure there is no twist in the chain as you bind it
Good video. Easy to understand; well explained. Thanks.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Getting chains closer to the length needed saves money and can eliminate the need for a couple of the ratcheting turnbuckles.
connecting to trailer and tractor is almost the same at the uphill side, then you let the tractor move as you pull the downhill chains tight, then lock up the brakes.
Closer to how the flat bed tow trucks do it.
using a 25 ft chain where a 10 or 12 ft will do... just has a bunch of chain rattling on the trailer deck.
These are the chains that come in a bag from a hardware store. You can buy them cheaper than you can make them.
Good job! I want to get a flat deck to tow my utv and this was helpful. Thanks.
i am glad you found this helpful.
Great video man! Lots of good info/tips!
Thanks!
A lot of times you'll want a 1/2 twist in straps to stop the wind from beating them up.
Here you have to have 4 binders no ratchet straps you can only use factory tie down points you have to put a strap across the bucket and I got a warning for not having my chain hooked to a chain somewhere in the information that comes with the hooks on your chain it says they're meant to hook back to the chain
Great video. One thing my boss says is to always secure the hooks back to the chain, like you did around the chassis, not tip load it like you did at the stake pocket. Not sure if it just him being over careful, or if there is some science behind it. I though I may as well share it in case it is of some use for you.
Thanks! Some other people have said the same thing. I loop the chain around the stake pocket and hook the chain to itself now. I don't think it matters too much on something small like this, but on something bigger it would make difference. Thank for watching!
Love the video i haul equipment to job sites for a living nothing extremely big no cdl but a tip of advice i would like to give you is the hooks you did on the physical tractor were kimda loose amd saggy i was taught to never give slack anywhere still loved the video thanks for the bondage video lmao
I leave the straps loose then when I have them all on, I tighten them down.
In my state dot requires 4 contact points on the vehicle as you used. However it is required to be done in an X pattern. Also any implement has to be strapped down separately.
I cross the straps when hauling a car but I don't cross chains on a tractor. I'm not sure how you could cross the chains the the BX but if that is what is required in your state that is the way to do it. Thanks for watching and commenting!!
Coy Patton YEP thats FED DOT LAW ! CROSS CHAINS AND DONT LET THEM COME IN CONTACT WITH EACH OTHER THATS A AUTOMATIC FAIL .
Travelin Thru yep. It is commercial requirements. Probably the only time you will have an issue as a private individual hauling is in some sort of accident.
Good practice is to abide by DOT regulations, take pictures with a date stamp.
Coy Patton read the law it's only if it's over 10k do you need four crossed chains. I promise you that tractor doesn't weigh 10k.
As long as you stop the movement in all directions it’s fine.
With the loose end of the strap tick it in to the roll just before you finish tightening, sucking it into the roll, it will keep it better than just the tuck under the handle.
I'll try that sometime.
Great tips and nice job.
Thanks!
How do you tie the chains down that are loose? Do you use the other tie down straps?
Excellent instruction.....thank you!
You are welcome!
good hookup, like the stake pocket connect you used for the strap. where do you get the pocket tiedowns?
Thanks! They stake pocket tie downs are from etrailer.
www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Truck_Bed_Accessories-sf-Tie_Down_Anchors.aspx
I just found these when i was looking up the ones on etrailer.
www.myteeproducts.com/checkout/cart/
Good informative video. Thanks.
Your welcome! Thanks for watching!
very good video a few minutes taking care will pay off down the road Thanks
Yes, it will. Thanks!
It’s impossible to find a detailed video on securing a tractor, so thank you for this. A local Constable told me the excess chains cannot be more than 12” hanging loosely. Do you think 3/8” is overkill for a L4701?
I would use 5/16 grade 70 chain. I believe any chain securing a load should be grade 70. If you have 3/8 grade 70 that would be fine, just over kill.
3/8 chain is better since he may be hauling with implements, thus additional weight to calculate. Most people have heavier tractors also.
What do you do with the excess chain?
Great video!
Thanks!
Cam over binders to tight or to loose, have you heard of using the half link method? That line down the middle of strap means it is DOT approved.
I have not heard of the half link method. What is it?
Great vid, thank you!
My pleasure!
94Bullitt, I meant to ask what do you recommend to do with the excess chain (example on the rear of tractor) after you tightened down the tractor? Do you tie up the excess chain or wrap it around itself? I just watched your other 2 videos on what kind of trailer to haul your tractor and those videos definitely answered some questions I had. Yep, I'm going to get the 10K trailer with brakes on each axel. It just makes sense. Thanks again.
Good question, It probably would be best to wrap the excess chain back around the binder and chain and secure it with a tarp strap. I'm glad you found the other videos helpful. Good luck on searching for a new trailer.
Houndsman One DOT inspectors I have talked to all recommend the chain be wrapped around the load binder. 1) they say the binder must be secured to prevent it from loosening. 2) excess chain must be secured to prevent it from coming away from the trailer, either causing damage to the load and possible flying objects, damaging your trailer in a manner that makes it unsafe (flats are common results) or the chain possibly hitting another vehicle.
While not commercial and may or may not be required to meet DOT in your state, following DOT is the safest in many ways
What do you do with the extra chain slack? How do you keep it from sliding around?
I wrap it around the binder.
Hi - I know this is an older vid, but I was wondering if you made the weight bracket on the front of your BX? I'd really like to find one that would allow me to keep the grill-guard on.
Yes, I made it. czcams.com/video/SugOTzBVOGM/video.html
Nice video. Its just like chaining down bigger heavyer equipment. Ive hardly ever used the ratcheting binders just cuz they were never around, but i have used em at different times. Ive always used the regular boomers & cheater bars. Why did ya use a rachet strap on the left front?
Thanks. Most of the time prefer ratching binders. I used a ratchet strap on the left front to just show a different method in case someone wanted to make a tie down like I did.
Tractor Tech. Okie dokie, i gotchya.
thanks, good info
No problem!
Where did you get the front weight bracket that you don’t have to remove grill? Good video
Thanks, I made the weight brakcet.
I like to criss cross my tractor tie downs like a X fashion. I’m assuming this video was for demo only? If not ..all that for that little riding mower was overkill BUT safe towing is best.
With the way the frame is, there is no way to cross the tie downs. With the tie downs pulling sideways, the tractor is not going to be able to move sideways like if the tie downs were straight.
Tractor Tech sorry to disagree, but using chains on the front you could easily use the front frame and do a X pattern for your chains!
The rear may be a bit more of a challenge, but it could be done. I would have to look at your tractor more closely to give a suggestion!
Could you have run just one chain binder from one stake pocket, through the tractor, and back to the opposite stake pocket ?
You can but if that chain comes loose then there is nothing holding that end of the tractor. With two chains on each end, if one comes loose you still have one holding the tractor.
Absolutely not! One chain per corner. One chain per end of vehicle lets the vehicle slide to one side or the other.
What size chains are those? Ive got a bx23s and gonna buy 1/4-5/16 binders but not sure if i want 1/4 or 5/16 chain
Those are 5/16. They are overkill for a tractor this size, but I use them for other things. 5/16 grade 70 chain is cheaper than 1/4 grade 70. You can get a 5/16 chain in a bag with hooks on it at lowes or harbor freight pretty cheap.
Hi, Rodger. How do you keep all the excess chain on the trailer while moving?
It can be wrapped around the binder.
Would you recommend using a Uhaul auto transport on a compact tractor? It's a '09 3320 with front loader. Thank you
I think they are rated for 7k gross. The problem is the trailer isn't a full deck so your tractor may fall between the runners on the trailer.
@@TractorTech I plan on tying the thing down similar to how you tie your tractor to the trailer too. Hopefully that would keep it from sliding?
@@TractorTech I was afraid the tractor would fall between the deck but I secure all 4 corners to the trailer and make sure they are tight. Kept my eyes on the tractor as I drive and drove over 600 miles. Made it home safely going 60mph. Thanks for the advice!
Good vid, my only suggestion is that I may have moved the tractor back about 1ft or so
Good video. What do you do with all the loose chain?
Thanks, you can wrap it back around the chain and binder.
I agree with the tongue weight, but it did not hear you mention it in the video.
I would also mention securing the excess chain so it does not go over the side and either foul the wheels or drag on the ground
I should have done something with the chain in the video. In the future I may make a video on that.
Same goes for regular chain binders, wire the handle to prevent opening.
I’ve seen some use zip ties for the extra chain. A Texas Constable told me not to exceed 12” hanging below the chain itself.
I’m somewhat new to these ratchet devices, but what do you do with the excess chain on the trailer? Can they just be left like that or what’s the proper way to “hide” the excess per say? Thanks
+TowerClimber81 You should do something with the chain. You can wrap it around the binder then use a tarp strap to keep it from coming off.
94BULLITT thanks so much! I know the answer was probably self explanatory, but was kinda curious if you left them loose or wrapped them around something. Thanks for the answer and video! Awesome channel and I’ll be a new subscriber!
Thanks! I am planning on doing a video on this but it will probably be sometime in the spring.
WHAT DO YOU DO WITH ALL THAT EXCESS CHAIN? ID BE AFRAID IT'LL BLOW OFF THE TRAILER AND TANGLE IN WHEEL (AXLES).
Wrap the excess around the binder.
state dot requires 4 contact points on the vehicle as you used, however, you can use the Anchor Shackle with one chain in the back with one Ratchet Binder(can use a second one but not needed)
That is what I do the other tractor, there is not a way to use 2 chains on the rear of it.
zane parker DOT inspectors that I have talked to consider that arrangement of a shackle on the tractor as 1 point if contact. As it only has 1 point of contact to the tractor.
cool vid is that a 54in mower deck?
Yes, it is.
Okay that was kind of nice because you can tell the guy was actually trying to do that stuff the right way technically the load capacity that he had for each one of thosepoints and securement are very very important for each rated weight and then you're supposed to always derate to the lowest point like if you have a stake pocket that's only at 2,000 lb and you have a chain that's 8,000 lb you're only allowed to count it at the lower number being 2000-lb although I'm sure that little tractor itself is probably only what 1,800 pounds maybe 2,000 can't be very muchso technically you required on something like that the regulations are 4-point contact so really good actually you actually you had that really good on all that simple stuff I knew securement actually for a living on big huge equipment in transportationso that's the really good thing is you actually did really good on all of that you just technically did not need quite that amount of load rating on your chains but of course yes it's good to have that just that technically it would not make any difference because you always go back to the lowest rate weight rating
Finally someone who understands. I also use those same chains to haul a 7000lb tractor. They can be used to haul other cargo also. It is hard to justify buying 1/4 grade 70 chain that is more expensive than 5/16 gr70 chain to haul a tractor a couple of times a year.
Where did you get the stake pocket tie down?
These came from etrailer. Amazon has some made by buyers for $12.
dont forget to secure the excess chains with a bungee...
Defiantly
why didn't you use four chains..? good video Thanks
I used a strap to show 2 different methods.
only one chain in the rear and one chain in the front / if u did your way , if one chain come a loose want jerk the tractor around might un hook from the trailer
With one chain in the front and one in the rear, if either one comes off you would have nothing holding that end of tractor.
you said start at the front but then you started at the back ? aslso CROSS tie the back also per DOT you need 3 tiedowns MIN
I don't recall saying to start at the front. I said to start on the uphill side. The load is under 10k gross and for private use, so in most, maybe all states the DOT does not care. There is not a way to cross the chains on the rear. I had 4 tie downs. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Those silver chains g70 rated?
Yes, they were gold but they have been used enough it wore off.
Rap execs chaim around the chain excess strap can secured with friction tape (electrical tape)
I rap the chain around the chain or binder and pull the strap though itself or use a bungee like this www.tradekey.com/product-free/Adjustable-Shock-Cord-With-Plastic-Snap-Hook-Elastic-Strap-Bungee-Cord-3674779.html I get mine at home depot.
Tractor Tech that link is garbage.
Overkill for a BX.... That's why I like it! No such thing a to secure, only under secure. BX is staying put right where you put it! In our state we have to cross the ties. When you get where you are going, that BX will be right behind you.
Thanks! What most people in the comments don't realize is these chains and straps are used to secure loads that are heavier than the BX.
You didn’t take up the remaining and very excessive chain slack. This can be accomplished by grabbing the center of remaining chain and wrapping it around the ratchet binder.
Yeah, since I wasn't going down the road I didn't wrap up the exess chain.
How much does this tractor weigh?
Around 1800lbs.
If its tied down right and the trailer rolls in an accident, the tractor will stay on the trailer.
Yo don't strap them on based on just staying in place for normal driving.
You chain them on so it doesn't join you in the truck cab in a wreck.
There is a company making the front bolt-on tie downs for the Gen 1 and 2 BX. Ai2 Products at bxattachments.com/product/kubota-bx-front-tie-down-attachments/
Yep.
You should never put chains into a stake pocket. They are the thinnest and weakest point on the trailer, chain hooks can actually cut through them like shears, you should ALWAYS use a stake pocket D-ring for ALL hookups, or attach D-ring and or chain slots to other areas of the trailer.
Other than that everything was fine, The huge slack of chain really did make me grind my teeth.. its just another object that needs to be secured or it can slide off the bed and get caught in a wheel. Would have been a wiser idea to just get some clevis hooks and use one chain front and back since you know your loading the same thing all the time.
As for tractor hook points, there's tons of different hookups you can buy, from d-rings, to weld on or bolt on banjo slots, to weld or bolt o chain hooks. You can also get finger hooks for your chain and just go into a hole.
I did not show wrapping up the chain. I'm going to do a video on that. I used a 4 point tie down because it is the right way to do it.
but you're still attaching the chain / binder and routing it through a stake pocket.... You need to use a stake pocket D ring insert ( czcams.com/video/GpXCiOOoPxk/video.html ) as you did with the strap OR go directly to the frame or reinforced rail. You cannot use a chain hook or a strap hook directly onto the THIN stake pocket metal. It will cut through it like a can opener.
Stake pockets alone are NOT tie down points. They are weak points made of THINNER metal and not designed to hold a load on a single contact point. It's just like chaining it to a fender. The stake pocket D-ring distributes the load across the entire stake pocket, not just where the hook touches, thus making it a legal tie down point.
Edit: Added link
Viper fukgoogPlus one point of clarification, not all stake pickets are created equal! Yes I have seen some thin ones, but some are also thicker. I have also seen them ripped off at welds.
Hooking the hook to the stake pocket will course the pocket to bend. Hook the hook to the chain. P.S
any cop see the hook attached the stake pocket you will get a ticket for an insecure load
I'll hook around the stake pocket in the future.
Even if you hook back to the chain, if there is that much force the pocket will bend. Hooking like he did in the video prevents the hook from coming loose.
@@akbychoice yes agreed
Everybody's an expert !!!!!!!!
Thanks for watching!
Looks like your bx is into bondage. Nice job.
Thanks
I just put it around the axel of my tractor
That is kind of hard to do on a BX.
@@TractorTech oh yeah I’ve never had a bx before I have a 35 hp century
I wouldn't even bother with using chains on that. Straps would be more then enough.
I wanted to show 2 different methods. Not everybody has chains, and not everybody has straps.
Better safe than sorry
Kuu stuff
Thanks!
Load over the axles
That wouldn't give me any tongue weight.
Under 10K, you dont need 4 points of contact legally. Major over-kill for that baby tractor.
What does it hurt?
and i thought me rocking a l3901 running chains was overkill and a waste of time but this is just funny.
Tell me what is so funny so I can do it right.
@@TractorTech not wrong, just massive overkill. looks like your almost your securing under 393.130 but your equipment is under 10,000lbs. you can secure under rules 393.128.
that means you can use 1" ratchet straps (normally rated around 650lbs). WLL of straps/chains must be 50% of load winch in your case is around 1,400 lbs plus extra's, no more then 2,000 lbs. so technically you could use one 1" strap front and one in the back, i would use 4 of them.
2 ratchet straps is more the enough for a little tractor
Thanks for watching!
2 ratchets is fine until you have to emergency stop.. then the little tractor will be in the driver's seat with you.
@@fhuber7507 no it wont
@@fhuber7507 2 2.5t strap is more then enough restraint for that tiny tractor
@@fhuber7507 over 20 years been using only 2 chains and binders to secure 9000 lbs loaders and tractors and never had any problems with law or accidents. 4 binders is for over 10,000 lbs
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thanks for watching!
And I know I've seen people put like 20,000 pounds of strapsor like 40000 lb of chains let's say for a rated capacity on only approximately let's say a 4000 lb rated rail rub rail of a trailersurprisingly if you actually watch people with little small pickup trucks you'll see that they do stuff like that all of the time truck drivers actually laugh at that stuff not really understanding why people do that I guess they just don't really understand that technically you can put forty thousand pounds of chains on a trailer and it's still only rated at 4000 lb if your securement point is out of writing and four thousand pounds for instance but great job there sir
That is like with tractor implements. For example I have seen people take a junk tractor supply blade and brace and gusset the frame, and not not do anything to the moldboard, which is the weakest point. Also their bracing probably did nothing for the strength because the main tube on the frame is undersize.
jesus my 6 ton skid steer doesnt even get 4 chains lol
Thanks for watching!
Does anyone on here making comments have 40 plus years of experience, big rig machinery and steel hauling in 48 states and parts of Canada ?
Thanks for watching!
You used overkill on tiedowns.. that tractor is heavy enough for all that..one chain in the back would have been sufficient and one 4in strap in front would have sufficient.. but hey , your video
Thanks for watching!
Maybe overkill but, four points is required by DOT.
Yes I know..I've been trucking for 40 yes..but I work smarter not harder..and not everything is 4pts bc your just aan and a pickup with a trailer behind it...
2 chains would have been sufficient enough bc of the weight of that tractor...
akbychoice it's only four points if it's over 10k bonehead.
YOUNG MAN
YOUR TRACTOR IS TO FAR FORWARD / YOUR TRACTOR SHOULD BE ON THE TANDEM
That tractor is light on the front and where I have it positioned gives me the right tongue weight.
In my world i would give you a ticket for improper load ,chain should be crossed, really, i would just tell you,even on bad day
Look at the frame and tell me how to cross the chains.
Bruce Bannerman try that with me and I would have your job you idiot. Chain does not have to be crossed moron. The machine isn't heavy enough to require it. If you want to get technical one chain and one binder is legal securement for the rear of that tractor.